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7/9/2009 6:11:48 AM EDT
Comments are pretty much what my county is moving towards.....hype and change. County is partially rural, lots of libs have been moving in lately. Damn county went about 45% for nobaaahhma. Click on the link to read the comments from the idiots who think we should add a tax to remove dead deer.

Well, geez

No fix for deer woes

By Jim Totten • DAILY PRESS & ARGUS • July 9, 2009

After finding a dead deer in her yard not far from the road, Yvonne Brown began calling every governmental agency to see who was responsible for removing it.

Several days later, the carcass has attracted flies, turkey vultures and crows, and the 83-year-old Marion Township woman has learned an important fact about Livingston County.

No one is responsible for removing dead deer in the county.

Brown, who has been staying off her porch due to an increase in flies, believes this situation stinks.

“It’s a health hazard,” she said. “Somebody should be able to help me.”

Brown, who lives at Wright Road and D-19, began calling on Friday the township, Livingston County, Michigan Department of Natural Resources and Livingston County Road Commission, and struck out with all of them. She didn’t reach a lot of people on July 3, with many government offices closed for the Fourth of July holiday.

“It should be handled by the county in some way. I pay taxes here,” Brown said.
She and her husband, who are both retired, moved to the county in 2004 to be closer to their family.

It should be noted county road commissions are funded primarily through state gas taxes and vehicle registrations.

In an informal poll on livingstondaily.com Wednesday, 73 percent of respondents said the county should be responsible for removing dead deer, rather than the township government, the state or private citizens.

Mike Craine, managing director of the Livingston County Road Commission, feels Brown’s pain but cannot provide a solution.

“Little old ladies shouldn’t have to do that,” Craine said. “Frankly, that’s what neighbors are for.”

Craine, who lives in rural Unadilla Township, in the county’s southwestern corner, said he’s dragged numerous dead deer off the side of the road over the years. Some of the carcasses were on his property, and other times he was helping an elderly neighbor who called him. He would put on a pair of gloves, drag the carcass into a fence row and put out a couple of bags of agricultural lime to reduce the smell and help with decomposition.
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“I fully understand an elderly person saying, ‘Can’t somebody do something about this?’ ” he said.

Roughly 25 years ago, Craine said, the Road Commission would remove dead deer from the roadways and transport them to the county landfill. The commission stopped when the landfill closed. The cost of removal also played a role. Craine said the DNR stopped removing deer many years ago due to budget constraints.

Craine said the county still receives a fair share of telephone calls from residents wanting a deer carcass removed.

If the deer is in the road or on the edge of the roadway, Craine said, county crews will relocate it to a nearby spot.

To the east of Livingston County, the Road Commission for Oakland County removes deer from public roads and road easements.

“If it’s on the road or in the immediate vicinity, we generally pick it up,” said Craig Bryson, spokesman for the Oakland County road office.

Bryson said the office has been removing dead deer “as long as anyone here can remember.”

He said the county receives almost daily calls about deer carcasses.

“We have far more deer problems in our urban areas than in our rural areas,” he said. He said deer seem to thrive in developed areas because there are no predators, hunting is prohibited and deer find an abundance of food. However, there’s more opportunities for deer to be hit by cars.

Livingston County is one of Michigan’s hotbeds for car-deer crashes. According to 2006 statistics from Michigan Office of Highway Safety Planning, there were 1,216 such crashes in the county. Car-deer crashes accounted for nearly one in four county collisions that year, according to the Southeast Michigan Council of Governments.

Bryson said he’s even seen deer passing by the Oakland County road commission’s administrative offices in Beverly Hills.

He said the deer carcasses are transported to specially approved landfills.
Meanwhile, the Browns decided to let their deer rot.

Yvonne Brown said she found one business that would remove deer carcasses. It is in Capac, a village in Michigan’s Thumb area.

“I can’t afford to pay them to come from Capac to pick it up,” she said.


Contact Daily Press & Argus reporter Jim Totten at (517) 548-7088 or at [email protected].

One of the idiot comments:

GramachrisF wrote:
I agree with this older couple............there's nothing like a rotten deer with your coffee in the morning...........I live in the Up North now & I know what it's like to have a deer carcass rotting away very close to your house......the smell alone is awful....The Police should have someone come out & bury these animals............what else are the police good for..........& if it's a fresh kill give it to a soup kitchen..
7/9/2009 6:22:46 AM EDT
[#1]
Washtenaw  County used to be be solidly Republican , now Livingston county will find out what it's like to be taken over by democrat-pod-people. Damn shame.
7/9/2009 6:40:16 AM EDT
[#2]
Every time a dear gets hit in front of our house we eat the dear.
Why let it go to waste?
The sound of screeching tires is like a dinner bell.

One was hit in front of my girlfriend’s house and it was there too long to be useful. The township said they were sending someone out to get it. Two weeks later, It was smelling ripe and wasn’t looking to good. We hacked it up and buried it. It was a mess.

If you want something done...............
7/9/2009 6:41:32 AM EDT
[#3]
Was it on her land?



Sounds like its her problem...
7/9/2009 6:43:18 AM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
Was it on her land?

Sounds like its her problem...


Yeah, that's like she had a pipe break and expects the county to fix it.
7/9/2009 6:46:48 AM EDT
[#5]
I think there is a double standard here.
For hunting purposes the deer belongs to the gov.
In a case like this, not their problem.
7/9/2009 6:47:59 AM EDT
[#6]


After finding a dead deer in her yard not far from the road, Yvonne Brown began calling every governmental agency to see who was responsible for removing it.



Several days later, the carcass has attracted flies, turkey vultures and crows, and the 83-year-old Marion Township woman has learned an important fact about Livingston County.





Uhhh... it's called wildlife, even when it's not pretty live deer and songbirds.



Turkey vulture FTW!





No one is responsible for removing dead deer in the county.



Brown, who has been staying off her porch due to an increase in flies, believes this situation stinks.



“It’s a health hazard,” she said. “Somebody should be able to help me.”


As long as you don't eat the rotting meat, or roll around in it with open sores you're fine.



7/9/2009 6:49:32 AM EDT
[#7]
Decided to let it rot?



They are gong to get wafts of putrid odor for the next six weeks!
7/9/2009 6:49:45 AM EDT
[#8]
Expecting the .gov to fix it is FULL of fail.

If I was her neighbor, I would have taken care of it for her.

It's a shame that didn't happen.
7/9/2009 6:50:21 AM EDT
[#9]
So where was this "family" she moved closer too? No one could come drag it off for her?
7/9/2009 7:14:10 AM EDT
[#10]
I ate my dear the night before last.
7/9/2009 7:18:47 AM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
Every time a dear gets hit in front of our house we eat the dear.
Why let it go to waste?
The sound of screeching tires is like a dinner bell.

One was hit in front of my girlfriend’s house and it was there too long to be useful. The township said they were sending someone out to get it. Two weeks later, It was smelling ripe and wasn’t looking to good. We hacked it up and buried it. It was a mess.

If you want something done...............


I remember my Dad and Uncles finding one in the road in Colorado one night. Was still warm. Thy threw it in the back of the stationwagon, covered it up, and took it home. That was good eatin.
7/9/2009 7:25:31 AM EDT
[#12]
Bubba patrol






Heading to church one sunday morning, I spotted a dead 8 point buck on the side of the road.
When we returned 2 hours latter, he was missing his head.




Not that unusual, except this was in front of Montgomery Mall on Democracy Blvd right off the DC Beltway.






7/9/2009 7:31:19 AM EDT
[#13]
From dead to gone in about a week in my part of the country...they never get a chance to stink. The bobcats, coyotes, vultures, possums, etc. are quite efficient in cleaning up a carcass around here.
7/9/2009 7:33:36 AM EDT
[#14]
She and her husband, who are both retired, moved to the county in 2004 to be closer to their family.



Hrmm.....wonder what liberal shit hole she moved from?

7/9/2009 7:36:28 AM EDT
[#15]
The truly fascinating thing is that people can live until well into their '80's and still not know how to take care of themselves.


7/9/2009 8:04:34 AM EDT
[#16]
I have a couple of buddies that are Livingston County Deputies. I'll see if I can get them to go over to her place and arrest her for possession of am untagged deer, out of season.
7/9/2009 8:32:22 AM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
So where was this "family" she moved closer too? No one could come drag it off for her?


Exactly!!!

Else the local MI DNR Warden or Wildlife Mgmt Tech/Mgr would have most likely volunteered to do it given the woman's age had she called them.

For this to make the paper is silly.

Back in the day...  when  I was working for the WI DNR as an intern...  the wardens would do this all the time out of courtesy.  

Deer hit by cars that made it far enough to get to the fence around or near the cows and were not dead, would be killed in a humane fashion, and either driven to the back 40 or taken to a Wildlife Mgmt Area where they could be scavenged...  one week later... the carcus would be almost "recycled" into the circle of life.

The longer you wait, the less likely assistance would arrive.  This service varies by county.  Some counties have funding to remove car kills along the roadside some do not, but odds are there was a perfectly reliable/lawful way of assiting this women.