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Link Posted: 10/12/2017 1:08:35 PM EDT
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Interesting speculation from the Memetics Warfare Division.  Trump and Sessions have been rolling up a lot of small fish in the human trafficking world.  Busts aren't getting much attention, but big operations are being disrupted.  Speculation is that they are getting close to Pedowood and Harvey was a big fish thrown overboard to protect the bigger fish.
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I can't wait for the porn parodies to come out where somebody like Ron Jeremy gets to have lines such as "Baby, I'm not Harvey Weinstein."
Link Posted: 10/12/2017 5:16:48 PM EDT
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John Ringo's take:  On Facebook

DEFLECTION IN ABUSE SYNDROME

JOHN RINGO·WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 11, 2017
 
Deflection in abuse syndrome: Are Hollywood Actresses really angry at Conservative men?
The simple answer to the question is: Yes. But not because conservative men have abused them. Because they are forced to be silent, for various sociological and psychological reasons, about their abuse at the hands of the ‘in-crowd’ of liberals by which they are surrounded. And they lash out at any convenient target.
Let’s put this in a perspective that might make sense: A high school cheerleading team.
We’ll call the town this takes place in ‘Hollywood’.
When the new freshman girls reach high school they’re SOOO EXCITED! They were cheerleaders in junior high and now they might get on the JV CHEERLEADING TEAM and even be VARSITY CHEERLEADERS! YAY! GO HOLLYWOOD!
So let’s follow the career of a freshman aspiring JV cheerleader named, oh, Ashley.
As part of Ashley’s tryout she’s invited to a HIGH SCHOOL PARTY! (YAY! WE’RE REALLY GROWN UP NOW!) And at that high school party she gets a little drunk and ends up in the morning in a bed full of strangers (various male varsity jocks) wearing nothing but her socks.
She’s embarrassed and shocked and hurt and doesn’t know what to do. Because she’s never had an experience like that before. (Though she’s rarely a virgin.)
Does she call them out? Does she report it? Will it affect her chances of being on the cheerleading team?
At some point she might open up to a Varsity Cheerleader we’ll call, oh, Dame Judy D. And Dame Judy’s rather cold response tends to be: Welcome to the bigs, sister. Now shut up and act.
And so Ashley is now part of the herd. She’s one of the ‘important’ people in high school. And she probably ends up being one of the mean girls who makes life horrible for the nerds. (Herein played by anyone with (R) after their name or anyone who can be defined as ‘conservative’.) And the reason that she makes life horrible for the nerds is THEY ARE THE ONLY SAFE TARGET!
If she lashes out at the jocks and Varsity cheerleaders who are actually making her life hell, the best she can hope is a punch in the face. Worse SHE MIGHT BE THROWN OUT OF THE IN-CROWD! She might NEVER DO LUNCH IN THIS TOWN AGAIN!
And when it’s her time to be the Varsity Cheerleader and some newbie freshman wimp is crying and sulking she tells her: Welcome to the bigs, sis. Now shut up and act.
And when that cheerleader finds a convenient nerd target (herein played by… oh, choose the R target of choice) she makes his life hell. Because she can. And she has to get the rage out somehow.
It’s all part of abuse syndrome. I’d wondered about it for some time but the ‘revelations’ about Harvey Weinstein just make it crystal clear. People who are subject to long-term abuse MUST find an outlet for the anger that bubbles in them all the time. They don’t, dare not for various reasons, lash out at their abusers. Think of children in abusive homes. How can they lash out at their parents who are abusing them? They are powerless. So they become bullies in turn.
Conservatives are an easy target. OBVIOUSLY they are worse than the ‘good’ and ‘decent’ liberal men who talk about how important feminism is all the time. Then abuse them. Conservatives HAVE to be worse! They HAVE to be! It’s just not getting reported, just as the abuse they are subjected to by the Harvey Weinsteins of the world is not reported. And since the people around them are ‘their’ tribe, they must, for various psychological reasons, be ‘good’ or at least ‘better’ than the enemy tribe.
This doesn’t mean there aren’t conservatives just as shitty as Harvey Weinstein. There probably are. But they are MUCH more likely to be outed by the news media. (Think of Newt Gingrich and divorcing his dying wife or for that matter the Access Hollywood tape. Interesting that name keeps coming up don’t you think?) Do you really think if a Republican senator was charged by a woman with groping her or masturbating into a plant, that the New York Times would kill the story?
In that way the liberal bias in media can be considered a God send to conservatives and Republicans. It polices our ranks. It is a major weakness for the Democrats and liberals because it refuses to do so. Thus you get the Harvey Weinsteins, the Weiners, the Spitzers who are all ‘protected’ classes until they can’t be protected anymore.
So do liberal actresses and models and all the rest really think conservative men are the worst human beings in the world?
Yes. Yes, they do. Because they have to work every day with some of the ACTUALLY worst human beings in the world. And they have to believe conservative men are worse. Otherwise, there’s no point to being on the ‘good’ side.
Thus when Donald Trump said some needlessly crass things and alleged to have groped women, they immediately saw in him not just Harvey (all the rest of the abusers in Hollywood High not to mention Billy ‘I did not rape that woman’ Clinton) but WORSE THAN HARVEY.
Because Trump has to be worse. They can’t really be slaves to some of the most vile human beings on the face of the planet.
Got news for you ladies: Yes, yes, you are. You enable them every day and by doing so you not only support the abusers, you directly or indirectly tell all the hurt new cheerleaders: Welcome to the bigs, sis. Now shut up and act.
You’re blaming the wrong side. You really do work with, and support, scum.
What does that make you, Miz Streep?
As usual with public: Share, share, share.
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You will love my dick," Price allegedly said to Isa Hackett, a producer on 'The Man in the High Tower."

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Link Posted: 10/13/2017 3:16:02 PM EDT
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This wasn't how Harry Potter was supposed to end.  The cave troll doesn't get Hermione. 

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The looks on the faces of the two young ladies in this picture in contrast with Weinstein's body language with Hemoine is disturbing.
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The looks on the faces of the two young ladies in this picture in contrast with Weinstein's body language with Hemoine is disturbing.
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This wasn't how Harry Potter was supposed to end.  The cave troll doesn't get Hermione. 

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The looks on the faces of the two young ladies in this picture in contrast with Weinstein's body language with Hemoine is disturbing.
It may be 3rd Reich propaganda but the only thing missing is the top hat.

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It may be 3rd Reich propaganda but the only thing missing is the top hat.

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This wasn't how Harry Potter was supposed to end.  The cave troll doesn't get Hermione. 

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The looks on the faces of the two young ladies in this picture in contrast with Weinstein's body language with Hemoine is disturbing.
It may be 3rd Reich propaganda but the only thing missing is the top hat.

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Oh damn.
Link Posted: 10/15/2017 4:08:51 AM EDT
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Furious Weinstein accuser Rose McGowan SLAMS the movie mogul's 'friend' James Corden for string of tasteless Harvey
sexual assault jokes supporting rape culture at Hollywood gala


 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4982290/Rose-McGowan-SLAMS-James-Corden-Harvey-Weinstein-jokes.html#ixzz4vbCIBLNZ





Link Posted: 10/15/2017 3:10:03 PM EDT
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WOW if true.


Rose McGowan tears into Lisa Bloom claiming the celebrity attorney is a 'snake' who tried to pay her $6million to say
'Harvey's changed'



 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4982694/Rose-McGowan-says-Lisa-Bloom-offered-money.html#ixzz4vbbYQQLZ
Link Posted: 10/15/2017 3:23:37 PM EDT
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Guys who do this type of harassment/rape are shitbags who should be killed, IMHO.

But let's not pretend that almost all of these starlets are not sluts - they are.
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Edited ~ medicmandan
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My Halloween costume.



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Rose McGowan complaining about unwanted sexual advances is fucking hilarious.

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Member since 2002 with 82450 posts.  Posts titty pics.  

I approve, but you have to know better.    I didn't know her rack was that nice.
Link Posted: 10/15/2017 3:45:01 PM EDT
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Nice titties.  IBTL.
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 one of those times I can't say something even though I really want to
Link Posted: 10/15/2017 3:48:28 PM EDT
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Well that's one way to go out I guess.
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I’m sure the snitches are trampling over each other.
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I did
Link Posted: 10/15/2017 3:53:47 PM EDT
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Clean up in aisle 7.

@sylvan
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for the record, she is in public and in a public gathering.  We will just have to assume pasties.
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Guys who do this type of harassment/rape are shitbags who should be killed, IMHO.

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Even sluts are allowed to chose who they want to have sex with, this slime ball wasn't just cat calling and making rude comments, he raped some of them.
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Clintons say sorry the money is already spent.


We won’t give back a cent of Harvey Weinstein’s tainted $250,000 says the Clinton Foundation - we’ve spent accused
rapist’s every cent claims group run by Bill and Chelsea



 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4982956/Clinton-Foundation-won-t-return-cash-Harvey-Weinstein.html#ixzz4vbxh0LA1
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Even sluts are allowed to chose who they want to have sex with, this slime ball wasn't just cat calling and making rude comments, he raped some of them.
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It's astonishing that this still needs to be explained!
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Very astute!
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rape is a horrible crime.

surprised no one went to the police.
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A lot of legitimate rapes go unreported. You know that.
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No I don't.  Do you have statistics to back that up?  Or are we talking about drunken regret rape?  Or stare rape?  Or white privilege rape?  Or break up anger rape?  Or Duke Lacrosse they made fun of me rape?  Or UVA just completely made up rape?  Maybe Columbia mattress rape?

I am more familiar with non-rapes going reported.

Fucking Harvey Weinstein wasn't rape.  It was the disgusting price they were willing to pay.

Now you'll excuse me while I manspread.

I reiterate.  Rape is a horrible crime.  So horrible I have a hard time believing why women wouldn't report it especially when the man who did it was rich and sue-able.  Unless it was an exchange of services.
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rape is a horrible crime.

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It's astonishing that this still needs to be explained!
rape is a horrible crime.

surprised no one went to the police.
Question is, is it still rape if a person consents for purposes of advancing their career?  It doesn’t make Weinstein any less of a total piece of shit, it only severely lessens my sympathy for the (maybe, maybe not) victims in this particular case.

Was a hooker raped if she didn’t really want to, but really wanted the money so she did it anyway?

Rape is an awful crime, among the worst thing people do to each other. My issue is that we seem to be at the point where the definitions of words are flexible enough to mean whatever we want them to mean at that particular instant... which means those words no longer have any real meaning....
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No I don't.  Do you have statistics to back that up?  Or are we talking about drunken regret rape?  Or stare rape?  Or white privilege rape?  Or break up anger rape?  Or Duke Lacrosse they made fun of me rape?  Or UVA just completely made up rape?  Maybe Columbia mattress rape?

I am more familiar with non-rapes going reported.

Fucking Harvey Weinstein wasn't rape.  It was the disgusting price they were willing to pay.

Now you'll excuse me while I manspread.

I reiterate.  Rape is a horrible crime.  So horrible I have a hard time believing why women wouldn't report it especially when the man who did it was rich and sue-able.  Unless it was an exchange of services.
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A lot of legitimate rapes go unreported. You know that.
No I don't.  Do you have statistics to back that up?  Or are we talking about drunken regret rape?  Or stare rape?  Or white privilege rape?  Or break up anger rape?  Or Duke Lacrosse they made fun of me rape?  Or UVA just completely made up rape?  Maybe Columbia mattress rape?

I am more familiar with non-rapes going reported.

Fucking Harvey Weinstein wasn't rape.  It was the disgusting price they were willing to pay.

Now you'll excuse me while I manspread.

I reiterate.  Rape is a horrible crime.  So horrible I have a hard time believing why women wouldn't report it especially when the man who did it was rich and sue-able.  Unless it was an exchange of services.
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Yeah, well, if she was raped, she would have reported it, right? And when she reports it, a lot of assholes say it's regret sex, or she's a slut, so you know what that means... sounds like fun all around. Two great choices for her, and whatever choice she makes, in the end it's all her fault anyway.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/11/19/study-sexual-assaults-greatly-underreported-/3648197/

""As long as we as a community continue to make victim-blaming statements, such as, 'She put herself in this situation,' … 'She didn't fight back, she must have wanted it,' we will continue to see rapes go unreported," Stevenson said. "We have to stop blaming the victim. The conversation needs to shift to the person who chose to rape."

Harking back to a time when I was groped as a very young girl, I never told a soul because I was humiliated, I could hardly process what had happened to me, and I felt like I somehow was to blame for it.

But I'm sure I was just a little whore who secretly wanted it. I mean, anonymous strangers know better than the actual victims what really happened to them, right?

Of course it doesn't help when some women will falsely accuse. But that doesn't mean that there aren't victims who are too humiliated, or who figure, "What's the use in saying anything, nobody will believe me." Or, who are threatened by the man who raped or assaulted them. (And the truth is, they're right, they will often be disbelieved or blamed or called a whore. I see it here all the time.)

It's dangerous to automatically believe any woman anytime she makes an accusation. That's the pendulum swinging too far in the other direction. But it's also willful ignorance to assume that because she was too afraid or too humiliated to step forward, that the rape didn't occur or that she somehow asked for it. The pendulum has swung too far in that direction for far too long, and that's why rape victims still don't step forward. (And there are male rape victims too, and sometimes they don't step forward. I suppose they also made it all up or were just whores, right?)
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I believe in in Whoopi Goldberg's case it involved drugging, raping and sodomozing a 14 year old girl.  which in anybody's vocabulary (except hollywood) that is rape.

If harvey was drugging them or they were below the age of consent, then, yes obviously rape.

Rose McGowan?

lulz.

she was well paid for services rendered
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I believe in in Whoopi Goldberg's case it involved drugging, raping and sodomozing a 14 year old girl.  which in anybody's vocabulary (except hollywood) that is rape.

If harvey was drugging them or they were below the age of consent, then, yes obviously rape.

Rose McGowan?

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And this is why rapes still go unreported!

If she's an adult and wasn't drugged, she "asked for it."
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Yeah, well, if she was raped, she would have reported it, right? And when she reports it, a lot of assholes say it's regret sex, or she's a slut, so you know what that means... sounds like fun all around. Two great choices for her, and whatever choice she makes, in the end it's all her fault anyway.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/11/19/study-sexual-assaults-greatly-underreported-/3648197/

""As long as we as a community continue to make victim-blaming statements, such as, 'She put herself in this situation,' … 'She didn't fight back, she must have wanted it,' we will continue to see rapes go unreported," Stevenson said. "We have to stop blaming the victim. The conversation needs to shift to the person who chose to rape."

Harking back to a time when I was groped as a very young girl, I never told a soul because I was humiliated, I could hardly process what had happened to me, and I felt like I somehow was to blame for it.

But I'm sure I was just a little whore who secretly wanted it. I mean, anonymous strangers know better than the actual victims what really happened to them, right?

Of course it doesn't help when some women will falsely accuse. But that doesn't mean that there aren't victims who are too humiliated, or who figure, "What's the use in saying anything, nobody will believe me." Or, who are threatened by the man who raped or assaulted them. (And the truth is, they're right, they will often be disbelieved or blamed or called a whore. I see it here all the time.)

It's dangerous to automatically believe any woman anytime she makes an accusation. That's the pendulum swinging too far in the other direction. But it's also willful ignorance to assume that because she was too afraid or too humiliated to step forward, that the rape didn't occur or that she somehow asked for it. The pendulum has swung too far in that direction for far too long, and that's why rape victims still don't step forward. (And there are male rape victims too, and sometimes they don't step forward. I suppose they also made it all up or were just whores, right?)
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And that is why we protect children.

but we aren't talking about Roman Polanski or Woody Allen or Luc Besson or Anthony Weiner or John Podesta.

we are talking about strong, independent powerful womyn here.  

It was a straight up quid pro quo.  Some paid. Some didn't.  Those who didn't paid a professional price.  Those who did were paid a professional price.

It is disgusting and wrong (if we still accept such silly antique notions of "right" and "wrong")

And considering the pictures of these starlets staying around with Harvey after their "rape" I have a hard time believing it.

The price you pay for calling everything "rape" and every man a "rapist" is that you trivialize what used to be thought of as a horrible crime.

And when false accusations bring no punishment except to the victim of the accusation, you are going to get more men who say "meh"

I love watching Harvey squirm.  But if he raped somebody, why isn't he in jail?
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Before him was Roman Polanski
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It was a straight up quid pro quo.
So you were there each and every time and you know that?

Rape is sexual contact by force or threat. EVEN IF some of these women took a payout later (and I guess some of them did) it doesn't change the definition of rape. Getting paid later doesn't mean that they consented at the time that he forced them.  And if they didn't consent when he forced them, then he raped them. It's that simple.

The price you pay for calling everything "rape" and every man a "rapist" is that you trivialize what used to be thought of as a horrible crime.
Who is "you" that is calling everything a rape and every man a rapist? Who here has done that?

But if he raped somebody, why isn't he in jail?
Why isn't Bill Clinton in jail? Same reason.

Or is Bill Clinton not a rapist because he's not in jail? Is that what you believe?
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