[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Decapitation (Page 1 of 3)
Posted: 7/21/2015 11:51:34 PM EDT
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I was doing some googling and came across this, among other things..
My friend’s head came to rest face up, and (from my angle) upside-down. As I watched, his mouth opened and closed no less than two times. The facial expressions he displayed were first of shock or confusion, followed by terror or grief. I cannot exaggerate and say that he was looking all around, but he did display ocular movement in that his eyes moved from me, to his body, and back to me. He had direct eye contact with me when his eyes took on a hazy, absent expression . . . and he was dead.
http://www.damninteresting.com/lucid-decapitation Makes me wonder about people who have been decapitated recently by ISIS and the cartels.. I'm almost tempted to look for videos to see if I can tell if their heads show any sign of awareness. Kind of a morbid thing to think about. 
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911 Dispatch: Parker County 911, where is your emergency? Jake Evans: Uh, my house. 911: What’s the emergency? Evans: Uh, I just killed my mom and my sister. 911: What? How did you do that? Evans: Uh, I shot them with a .22 revolver. 911: Are you sure they’re dead? Evans: They’re dead. 911: Okay, I want you to stay on the phone with me. Are you alright? Evans: Yeah, I’m alright. (The gun) is on the kitchen counter. 911: Jake, are you on any medication? Evans: Uh, no. I’ve been going to the allergist, I’m on allergy medication. Other than Zyrtec and Advil and Pseudoephedrine, I don’t take anything else. 911: Is there any reason that you were so angry at your mother and your sister? Evans: I don’t know. … It’s weird. I wasn’t even really angry with them. It just kind of happened. I’ve been kind of, uh, planning on, uh, killing for a while now. 911: The two of ‘em, or just anybody? Evans: Pretty much anybody. 911: Why? Evans: I don’t know. I don’t really like, uh, people’s, uh, attitude. … I think it’s kind of, very, like, you know, emotional. They’re verbally rude to each other and stuff like that. I don’t know. It’s just my family is just kind of really I guess this is really selfish to say, but I felt they were just suffocating me in a way. I don’t know, I’m pretty, I guess, evil…Whatever, I’m sorry. 911: Were your mom and sister in their beds? Evans: I don’t know. This is going to really mess me up in the future. I told my sister that my mom needed her. She was in her room, and she came out of her room, and I shot her. And she rolled down the stairs and I shot her again. And then I went down and I shot my mom maybe three or four times, but I’ll never forget this. My sister, she came downstairs and she was screaming and I was telling her that I’m sorry but just to hold still – that, you know, I was just going to make it go away. But she kept on freaking out, but she finally fell down and I shot her in the head about, probably, three or four times. 911: Are you in the kitchen? Evans: Yes. 911: Where’s your dad? Evans: He’s out of town. Washington, D.C. And, uh, I guess for future reference, I don’t really want to see any of my family members, like visiting or whatever. I just don’t want any type of visitors. 911: You don’t want to hurt yourself, do you? Evans: Just to let you know, I hate the feeling of killing someone. (Sighs) I’m going to be messed up. 911: You just take a deep breath. We have deputies coming, and they’re going to help you. Just to let you know, we’re going to help you, we’re not going to hurt you. Evans: I understand if ya’ll want to. 911: No, we’re there to help you, Jake. Everybody thinks we want to do bad things, but right or wrong, we want to help people, and we’re gonna help you. Do you understand that, Jake? Evans: Yes. 911: Is it a gated community? Is there a gate? Evans: Uh, yes. You want the password? (He gives her the password) 911: It’s going to be alright, it really is. They’ll be there shortly, won’t be long now. Jake, would you mind turning any of the porch lights on? Evans: I have turned the front lights on. (pauses) I was thinking of my sister. She was 15. 911: How long ago did (the shootings) happen? Evans: About, uh, 30 minutes ago. (breathes heavily) 911: You’ll be alright, Jake. Evans: I’m really worried about, like, nightmares and stuff like that. Are there any times of medications, and stuff? 911: Well, I think there is. I don’t know, I’m not a doctor but … I’m sure your family will get you the support you need. Evans: I don’t mean to sound like a wimp or anything, but this is, wow, I’ve never, like, done anything violent in my whole life. 911: You don’t sound like a violent person. But um, help will be provided for you. Medical and psychological. That will be provided, so you don’t have to worry about that right now. Take deep breaths for me now, you’re doing fine. In through your nose, and out through your mouth so you don’t hyperventilate, okay? Evans: (breathing) 911: Good, you sound a lot calmer right now. Evans: I didn’t want them to feel pain, that’s why I used a gun, but it’s like everything went wrong. 911: Jake, my officers are almost there, would you be willing to walk out on your own? Evans: Um, yes, I forgot to say before I called, I put the gun on the counter, it’s still loaded. 911: Okay, that’s fine. I’ll stay on the phone until it’s time for you to walk out. Are you on your home phone? Is it cordless? Evans: Yes. 911: Jake, what I want you do to is walk outside, but when you’re walking outside, stay visible, don’t walk behind any furniture. When you open the front door, put your hands up in the air, just walk very slowly, and walk outside, and keep your hands visible, alright, sweetie? I’ll talk to you later. Evans: Thank you (puts phone down) 911: You’re welcome. |
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/25/jake-evans-confession_n_2552173.html
(not sure what this jake evans thing has to do with decapitation but that sure was um.. interesting to read) |
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/25/jake-evans-confession_n_2552173.html (not sure what this jake evans thing has to do with decapitation but that sure was um.. interesting to read) He's trying to give you a hint. Have you had any fantasies lately? |
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He's trying to give you a hint. Have you had any fantasies lately? Quoted:
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/25/jake-evans-confession_n_2552173.html (not sure what this jake evans thing has to do with decapitation but that sure was um.. interesting to read) He's trying to give you a hint. Have you had any fantasies lately? That doesn't make any sense.. |
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I'm not a doctor but from my limited knowledge of human pysiology and having butchered probably 1000 chickens in my life, it's almost certain that at least some of the victims of decapitation remain conscious for a few seconds.
the brain, and ocular system is all contained in the head, if the jolt of your spine being severed doesn't knock you out, you should stay awake and process for up to 30 seconds or so. You'll faint pretty fast without the blood in your head, but you're going to have a few seconds before that happens. chickens do it. they don't really walk around, the bodies flop and flap everywhere, but very often the heads will focus their eyes and you see the pupils working for about 10 seconds, they the dilate and defocus. you can see it happening. |
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/25/jake-evans-confession_n_2552173.html (not sure what this jake evans thing has to do with decapitation but that sure was um.. interesting to read) He's trying to give you a hint. Have you had any fantasies lately? That doesn't make any sense.. 
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Quoted: That doesn't make any sense.. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/25/jake-evans-confession_n_2552173.html (not sure what this jake evans thing has to do with decapitation but that sure was um.. interesting to read) He's trying to give you a hint. Have you had any fantasies lately? That doesn't make any sense.. Which is completely in keeping with the theme of your thread. |
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There was some scientist who was beheaded during the French Revolution. Before his execution, he told his friends that after he was beheaded he would try to blink his eyes as many times as possible before he lost consciousness, for scientific purposes. Supposedly his friends got in the front row and after the head was in the basket they jumped to the platform and saw him blink his eyes 13 times before he stopped, presumably dead. |
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Quoted: That doesn't make any sense.. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/25/jake-evans-confession_n_2552173.html (not sure what this jake evans thing has to do with decapitation but that sure was um.. interesting to read) He's trying to give you a hint. Have you had any fantasies lately? That doesn't make any sense.. |
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/25/jake-evans-confession_n_2552173.html (not sure what this jake evans thing has to do with decapitation but that sure was um.. interesting to read) He's trying to give you a hint. Have you had any fantasies lately? That doesn't make any sense.. 
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Some people die immediately, some are aware for a few seconds, some 10 seconds others 30 seconds and maybe a few last longer.
You have enough blood in your brain to be aware. Shock as well can take place but everybody is different. The French executed people with the guillotine until the late 70's. Numerous reports of heads being aware after it being severed. Not everybody, but some. |
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I'm not a doctor but from my limited knowledge of human pysiology and having butchered probably 1000 chickens in my life, it's almost certain that at least some of the victims of decapitation remain conscious for a few seconds. the brain, and ocular system is all contained in the head, if the jolt of your spine being severed doesn't knock you out, you should stay awake and process for up to 30 seconds or so. You'll faint pretty fast without the blood in your head, but you're going to have a few seconds before that happens. chickens do it. they don't really walk around, the bodies flop and flap everywhere, but very often the heads will focus their eyes and you see the pupils working for about 10 seconds, they the dilate and defocus. you can see it happening. This. IME, death is rarely instant...even in spite of some grievous wounds. |
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There was also an experiment or two done where they severed dog heads and attached them to an artificial circulatory system.
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Quoted: He's trying to give you a hint. Have you had any fantasies lately? Quoted: Quoted: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/25/jake-evans-confession_n_2552173.html (not sure what this jake evans thing has to do with decapitation but that sure was um.. interesting to read) He's trying to give you a hint. Have you had any fantasies lately?  |
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Quoted: There was some scientist who was beheaded during the French Revolution. Before his execution, he told his friends that after he was beheaded he would try to blink his eyes as many times as possible before he lost consciousness, for scientific purposes. Supposedly his friends got in the front row and after the head was in the basket they jumped to the platform and saw him blink his eyes 13 times before he stopped, presumably dead. There's a few stories like that from the French Revolution. Not in my top ten list for ways to check out. |
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I honestly don't see how people can connect the OP's interest in an explanation of what has been observed to physically happen, to the OP being a killer in the making. That's a pretty far stretch. And from stories that others have posted, people who have personally witnessed it were very curious and "studied" it...does that make them potential killers, too?
Whatever...either way, I sure as fuck would never want to experience, nor do I hope to ever have a desire to witness it, because that would mean that there was some evil fucker out there who deserved it for some reason...probably because they hurt someone that I cared deeply about. |
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/25/jake-evans-confession_n_2552173.html (not sure what this jake evans thing has to do with decapitation but that sure was um.. interesting to read) 
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I pick up bodies for a living. I've seen more than a few expressions on the decapitated that indicated awareness after the separation. The quickest death is a shotgun or high powered rifle to the base of the skull aiming up and forward at an angle to go from base of skull to above brow. Saw someone rig something up to do just that. The reason was to save their face, gases blew em up like a face stretched over a pumpkin, though.
To be completely honest seeing lots of death has pretty much just given me a list of ways it would suck to go. Daniel |
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I was doing some googling and came across this, among other things.. My friend’s head came to rest face up, and (from my angle) upside-down. As I watched, his mouth opened and closed no less than two times. The facial expressions he displayed were first of shock or confusion, followed by terror or grief. I cannot exaggerate and say that he was looking all around, but he did display ocular movement in that his eyes moved from me, to his body, and back to me. He had direct eye contact with me when his eyes took on a hazy, absent expression . . . and he was dead.
http://www.damninteresting.com/lucid-decapitation Makes me wonder about people who have been decapitated recently by ISIS and the cartels.. I'm almost tempted to look for videos to see if I can tell if their heads show any sign of awareness. Kind of a morbid thing to think about. Join date, post count, at least the secone waste of bandwidth post from him today. I vote familiar. |
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http://www.stuffyoushouldknow.com/podcasts/do-you-stay-conscious-after-being-decapitated/
There's a podcast for that. |
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Join date, post count, at least the secone waste of bandwidth post from him today. I vote familiar. Quoted:
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I was doing some googling and came across this, among other things.. My friend’s head came to rest face up, and (from my angle) upside-down. As I watched, his mouth opened and closed no less than two times. The facial expressions he displayed were first of shock or confusion, followed by terror or grief. I cannot exaggerate and say that he was looking all around, but he did display ocular movement in that his eyes moved from me, to his body, and back to me. He had direct eye contact with me when his eyes took on a hazy, absent expression . . . and he was dead.
http://www.damninteresting.com/lucid-decapitation Makes me wonder about people who have been decapitated recently by ISIS and the cartels.. I'm almost tempted to look for videos to see if I can tell if their heads show any sign of awareness. Kind of a morbid thing to think about. Join date, post count, at least the secone waste of bandwidth post from him today. I vote familiar. Agreed |
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One of my Old SSgt's was internally decapitated. story Modern medicine is pretty amazing. |
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There was also an experiment or two done where they severed dog heads and attached them to an artificial circulatory system. video 
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One of my Old SSgt's was internally decapitated. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internal_decapitation story Modern medicine is pretty amazing. From your second link: "Smith bought a new Harley Davidson motorcycle about a week after he was released from the hospital, he said. Doctors cleared him to drive last Friday, so he'll be ready to go when his new bike is delivered. Trying to stop him would be a waste of time, Potts said. "He always said he wanted to die in combat or on his bike," she said." |
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Quoted: From your second link: "Smith bought a new Harley Davidson motorcycle about a week after he was released from the hospital, he said. Doctors cleared him to drive last Friday, so he'll be ready to go when his new bike is delivered. Trying to stop him would be a waste of time, Potts said. "He always said he wanted to die in combat or on his bike," she said." Quoted: Quoted: One of my Old SSgt's was internally decapitated. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internal_decapitation story Modern medicine is pretty amazing. From your second link: "Smith bought a new Harley Davidson motorcycle about a week after he was released from the hospital, he said. Doctors cleared him to drive last Friday, so he'll be ready to go when his new bike is delivered. Trying to stop him would be a waste of time, Potts said. "He always said he wanted to die in combat or on his bike," she said." It's... an interesting way to get passed! Also had one of the most beautiful TOW kills I've ever seen, 18 dudes in a flatbed trying to train a AA gun on our Bn. Super good guy, great Marine. I'm really glad he lived. |
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One of my Old SSgt's was internally decapitated. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internal_decapitation story Modern medicine is pretty amazing. Read his story, sad. People like the girl that hit him should lose their license forever, go to jail for a very long time, have all of their assets sold, monies that are raised given to the victim. |
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There was also an experiment or two done where they severed dog heads and attached them to an artificial circulatory system. video Soviet Dog head moving without neck or muscles Color me skeptical comrade |
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I pick up bodies for a living. I've seen more than a few expressions on the decapitated that indicated awareness after the separation. The quickest death is a shotgun or high powered rifle to the base of the skull aiming up and forward at an angle to go from base of skull to above brow. Saw someone rig something up to do just that. The reason was to save their face, gases blew em up like a face stretched over a pumpkin, though. To be completely honest seeing lots of death has pretty much just given me a list of ways it would suck to go. Daniel Top 10 list? |
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This thread reminds me of the movie, "Reanimator", which is a real classic in itself but the Spanish dubbed version is a scream.
I'd post a link to the Spanish version on youtube but scanning through it I saw a decent pair of tittays toward the end so you are on your own. |