[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Defusing ISIS IEDs like a BOSS (Page 1 of 2)
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Not an IED expert by any means but why not choot it ? This--I know a former bomb squad guy who dealt with IEDs before they had an acronym. Prima cord, a funnel, and water to disrupt the device before it goes off. (Explosion funnels blast of water into device, destroying it and hopefully preventing an explosion.) And nowadays, they have commercial solutions for that. You never diffuse--it is too easy to make a diffuse-proof device. Their final exam in bomb school was to make bomb with flash powder and exchange it with another student and diffuse the other student's work. The purpose of the exam was to reinforce that you don't diffuse IEDs. |
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That's one hell of a daisy chain They dont look connected, individual pressure plates for each pot. Speaking of, how the hell does he know where to dig? You can kinda see the edge of the pot sticking out of the ground for one of them, but no real indicators for the rest (at least nothing that shows up on video) |
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EOD used to hate when someone would shoot at the IEDs. It's hard to make them explode with small arms. Then they have an even more unpredictable explosive device to deal with. Quoted:
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Not an IED expert by any means but why not choot it ? EOD used to hate when someone would shoot at the IEDs. It's hard to make them explode with small arms. Then they have an even more unpredictable explosive device to deal with. Yup, it's generally a bad idea. |
| I am no explosives expert... But I think it is a really bad Idea to be throwing around devices of an own unknown composition like he is... Yes I understand that C4 is fairly stable and not really shock sensitive, but how do you know what each pot is filled with.. and also wouldnt you want to use non-magnetic and non sparking tools to be doing what he is doing.. I mean an E-tool and some harbor freight dikes dont really seem like the best choices.. |
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What does he pull up after the pressure cookers that looks like a stick? C4? Pressure trigger? Pressure plate. The makers developed some pretty ingenious methods for making pressure plates truth be told. Got pretty good at calibrating them to specific weights even. Probably a piece of wood with two strips of conductive material separated by a gap. Weight closes gap, completes circut, triggers device. |
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Quoted: I am no explosives expert... But I think it is a really bad Idea to be throwing around devices of an own unknown composition like he is... Yes I understand that C4 is fairly stable and not really shock sensitive, but how do you know what each pot is filled with.. and also wouldnt you want to use non-magnetic and non sparking tools to be doing what he is doing.. I mean an E-tool and some harbor freight dikes dont really seem like the best choices.. As someone said, he probably has done this before on multiple occasions. Sure looks like he's comfortable. |
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I was wondering the same thing. What is the purpose of that stake that they are attached to? Quoted:
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What does he pull up after the pressure cookers that looks like a stick? C4? Pressure trigger? I was wondering the same thing. What is the purpose of that stake that they are attached to? Saw blade style trigger. Two saw blades with foam or something between them to hold them apart, when you step on it, the blades touch and complete the circuit. |
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As someone said, he probably has done this before on multiple occasions. Sure looks like he's comfortable. Quoted:
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I am no explosives expert... But I think it is a really bad Idea to be throwing around devices of an own unknown composition like he is... Yes I understand that C4 is fairly stable and not really shock sensitive, but how do you know what each pot is filled with.. and also wouldnt you want to use non-magnetic and non sparking tools to be doing what he is doing.. I mean an E-tool and some harbor freight dikes dont really seem like the best choices.. As someone said, he probably has done this before on multiple occasions. Sure looks like he's comfortable. Complacency kills.. |
We had one patrol, and one only, thanks to the only time our LT stood up for us, in Ramadi, where our dismounts spent 3 hours walking the streets in a neighborhood with instructions to pull at any wires sticking out of the ground near the road. 
This guy, he has some brass ones. |
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I get the bad feeling that once the word gets around about this guy that there's going to be one with a secondary explosive booby-trap under the pot.  This. Interesting video, but I don't think they should have shown it. Otoh, That guy might have been the one who placed the devices. He was casual, because he knew exactly what he was dealing with. |
| I was on a convoy in Iraq and we were stopped on the road by an IED just sitting on the side of the road. A squad from the 10th Mountain was with us and they got impatient waiting for EOD to come and take care of it. They shot it with an M2 a couple of times, and their LT went over with his trusty leatherman and snipped the det cord right where it enters the IED. Snipping the det cord caused it to detonate and it literally blew his ass off right in front of us. We were able to provide him with first aid and medavaced him out of there and last I heard he lived, but he probably lost the use of one of his legs. Sometimes it doesn't take much to get them to go off. |
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This--I know a former bomb squad guy who dealt with IEDs before they had an acronym. Prima cord, a funnel, and water to disrupt the device before it goes off. (Explosion funnels blast of water into device, destroying it and hopefully preventing an explosion.) And nowadays, they have commercial solutions for that. You never diffuse--it is too easy to make a diffuse-proof device. Their final exam in bomb school was to make bomb with flash powder and exchange it with another student and diffuse the other student's work. The purpose of the exam was to reinforce that you don't diffuse IEDs. Quoted:
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Not an IED expert by any means but why not choot it ? This--I know a former bomb squad guy who dealt with IEDs before they had an acronym. Prima cord, a funnel, and water to disrupt the device before it goes off. (Explosion funnels blast of water into device, destroying it and hopefully preventing an explosion.) And nowadays, they have commercial solutions for that. You never diffuse--it is too easy to make a diffuse-proof device. Their final exam in bomb school was to make bomb with flash powder and exchange it with another student and diffuse the other student's work. The purpose of the exam was to reinforce that you don't diffuse IEDs. We still use HydraJets as an attack tool. They are simple and work. The concept isn't difficult. The part about never going hands on is crap... We train for and do hands on stuff. His story of the final exam in bomb school is bullshit. He is either so far out of touch with the HDS world or he never was in touch to begin with. |
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As someone said, he probably has done this before on multiple occasions. Sure looks like he's comfortable. Quoted:
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I am no explosives expert... But I think it is a really bad Idea to be throwing around devices of an own unknown composition like he is... Yes I understand that C4 is fairly stable and not really shock sensitive, but how do you know what each pot is filled with.. and also wouldnt you want to use non-magnetic and non sparking tools to be doing what he is doing.. I mean an E-tool and some harbor freight dikes dont really seem like the best choices.. As someone said, he probably has done this before on multiple occasions. Sure looks like he's comfortable. I'd be isolating or shunting those wires a bit better than he is.. That guy is playing with fire. |
| In before our resident experts...but seriously a few days of surviving on the job training, some basic electrical knowledge and some explosives knowledge and you COULD defuse most things you're likely to find. In many cases it's not that smart, not as sexy and not as safe as we would do it but its a way that isn't full retard. |
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I was on a convoy in Iraq and we were stopped on the road by an IED just sitting on the side of the road. A squad from the 10th Mountain was with us and they got impatient waiting for EOD to come and take care of it. They shot it with an M2 a couple of times, and their LT went over with his trusty leatherman and snipped the det cord right where it enters the IED. Snipping the det cord caused it to detonate and it literally blew his ass off right in front of us. We were able to provide him with first aid and medavaced him out of there and last I heard he lived, but he probably lost the use of one of his legs. Sometimes it doesn't take much to get them to go off. If I had to bet my life I'd say he stepped on some sort of pressure plate or it was command detonated then. Cutting det cord shouldn't make it go boom. It's definitely possible to set up some anti-tamper safeguards but I don't imagine that is typical for what amounts to an AT mine (as seen in video). |
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I'd be isolating or shunting those wires a bit better than he is.. That guy is playing with fire. Quoted:
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I am no explosives expert... But I think it is a really bad Idea to be throwing around devices of an own unknown composition like he is... Yes I understand that C4 is fairly stable and not really shock sensitive, but how do you know what each pot is filled with.. and also wouldnt you want to use non-magnetic and non sparking tools to be doing what he is doing.. I mean an E-tool and some harbor freight dikes dont really seem like the best choices.. As someone said, he probably has done this before on multiple occasions. Sure looks like he's comfortable. I'd be isolating or shunting those wires a bit better than he is.. That guy is playing with fire. Nothing like the e tool completing the circuit. Only happens once per e tool. |