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Posted: 4/26/2009 11:34:58 PM EDT
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Tinfoil hat time.. That seems like an odd group of people to be vulnerable for a naturally occurring disease. The bio-weapon theory is definitely on the plain in my mind. Lets just see how this pans out over the next week. The 1918 flu was the same way. It stimulates the immune system which causes your body to kill itself. Apparently people who are slightly sickly are lucky, when this one goes around. |
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I'm not sweating this... I'd have to know a whole lot more about the cases that died, including their co-morbidities.
Were any of them smokers? Drinkers? Did any of them have TB? (endemic in mexico) "Healthy" can have great variability, depending on where you are in the world. Influenza is predominately a respiratory illness, and that's the lion's share of the symptoms... cough, fever, pharyngitis, aches, chills... sometimes vomiting (but usually that's in kids). It's the bacterial infections that piggy-back on top of the flu that really take people out. Add a nice MRSA pneumonia on top of the flu and you've got big, big trouble. |
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I'm not sweating this... I'd have to know a whole lot more about the cases that died, including their co-morbidities. Were any of them smokers? Drinkers? Did any of them have TB? (endemic in mexico) "Healthy" can have great variability, depending on where you are in the world. Influenza is predominately a respiratory illness, and that's the lion's share of the symptoms... cough, fever, pharyngitis, aches, chills... sometimes vomiting (but usually that's in kids). It's the bacterial infections that piggy-back on top of the flu that really take people out. Add a nice MRSA pneumonia on top of the flu and you've got big, big trouble. Los medicos son muertos If you haven't read these BBC comments I suggest your should. They discuss the death of medical staff despite anti-virals and best efforts of co-workers and peers. |
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I might as well start smoking again!  
Do they still sell Kent Golden Lights? I've got to fuck up my immune system. Seriously, I wonder if taking corticosteroids (not 'roids but the other ones) or organ transplant anti-rejection drugs would HELP a younger person by f'in up their immune system? |
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Los medicos son muertos If you haven't read these BBC comments I suggest your should. They discuss the death of medical staff despite anti-virals and best efforts of co-workers and peers. I'm not one to buy into hysteria sight-unseen. I'll wait and see... until then it's business as usual. |
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I am one of those 25-50 year olds that gets a letter every year from my insurance begging me to get a flu shot. If I get a bad cold or anything worse my asthma goes nuts and I at LEAST end up with a cocktail of nebulizer drugs with a helping of oral and injected prednisone.
If I get this one I am screwed. 
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I am one of those 25-50 year olds that gets a letter every year from my insurance begging me to get a flu shot. If I get a bad cold or anything worse my asthma goes nuts and I at LEAST end up with a cocktail of nebulizer drugs with a helping of oral and injected prednisone. If I get this one I am screwed. Nope. This is a 1984 situation. Weakness is strength. Impaired immune function isn't what kills you. Your immune system kills you. Geezers and babies survive. [The ways this parallels the Andromeda Strain are truly freaky (only an endlessly crying baby and a heavy drinking alcoholic survive).] The healthier you are, the more vigorously your own immune system goes medieval on you and fucks your shit up. If you have a weakened immune system you are BETTER off. [I hope that any incorrect contentions will be corrected by those actually in the know]. |
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Quoted: Quoted: I am one of those 25-50 year olds that gets a letter every year from my insurance begging me to get a flu shot. If I get a bad cold or anything worse my asthma goes nuts and I at LEAST end up with a cocktail of nebulizer drugs with a helping of oral and injected prednisone. If I get this one I am screwed. Nope. This is a 1984 situation. Weakness is strength. Impaired immune function isn't what kills you. Your immune system kills you. Geezers and babies survive. [The ways this parallels the Andromeda Strain are truly freaky (only an endlessly crying baby and a heavy drinking alcoholic survive).] The healthier you are, the more vigorously your own immune system goes medieval on you and fucks your shit up. If you have a weakened immune system you are BETTER off. [I hope that any incorrect contentions will be corrected by those actually in the know]. This is what I am getting out of from what I am hearing NOT FUCKING GOOD |
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Do they still sell Kent Golden Lights? I've got to fuck up my immune system. Seriously, I wonder if taking corticosteroids (not 'roids but the other ones) or organ transplant anti-rejection drugs would HELP a younger person by f'in up their immune system? I used to smoke those and Camel Wides when I first started smoking. Now, I want a pack of em. Thanks a lot, man 
Serious, though. This is bad stuff. I'm worried about some of my friends in Mexico. Two of my co-workers, here were complaining of flu-like symptoms today. I told them to go to a hospital if it gets worse. I'm going to alert management at work, too because colds and flus spread like wildfire in a call center. |
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Geezers and babies survive. [The ways this parallels the Andromeda Strain are truly freaky (only an endlessly crying baby and a heavy drinking alcoholic survive).] I think they both had acidosis. Cool movie. I know, but Michael Crichton was a Harvard educated MD and somewhere deep in his genius mind he somehow foresaw weakness being a strength if the pathogen was highly evolved. |
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I'm not sweating this... I'd have to know a whole lot more about the cases that died, including their co-morbidities. Were any of them smokers? Drinkers? Did any of them have TB? (endemic in mexico) "Healthy" can have great variability, depending on where you are in the world. Influenza is predominately a respiratory illness, and that's the lion's share of the symptoms... cough, fever, pharyngitis, aches, chills... sometimes vomiting (but usually that's in kids). It's the bacterial infections that piggy-back on top of the flu that really take people out. Add a nice MRSA pneumonia on top of the flu and you've got big, big trouble. so it wouldn't be a bad idea to hit up my doc for a couple of z-packs to stockpile? |
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I'm not sweating this... I'd have to know a whole lot more about the cases that died, including their co-morbidities. Were any of them smokers? Drinkers? Did any of them have TB? (endemic in mexico) "Healthy" can have great variability, depending on where you are in the world. Influenza is predominately a respiratory illness, and that's the lion's share of the symptoms... cough, fever, pharyngitis, aches, chills... sometimes vomiting (but usually that's in kids). It's the bacterial infections that piggy-back on top of the flu that really take people out. Add a nice MRSA pneumonia on top of the flu and you've got big, big trouble. so it wouldn't be a bad idea to hit up my doc for a couple of z-packs to stockpile? Depending on your local resistances in pneumonia organisms, I might pick something else... resistance to macrolides in S. pneumo runs as high as 25-30%. Doxycyline might be a better choice, since it gets all the atypicals that the macrolides kill, also gets pneumococcus, and it covers a lot of drug-resistant S. aureas. It also gets most of the zoonoses like Lyme and RMSF... so that's one antibiotic that no SHTF kit should be without. |
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I'm not sweating this... I'd have to know a whole lot more about the cases that died, including their co-morbidities. Were any of them smokers? Drinkers? Did any of them have TB? (endemic in mexico) "Healthy" can have great variability, depending on where you are in the world. Influenza is predominately a respiratory illness, and that's the lion's share of the symptoms... cough, fever, pharyngitis, aches, chills... sometimes vomiting (but usually that's in kids). It's the bacterial infections that piggy-back on top of the flu that really take people out. Add a nice MRSA pneumonia on top of the flu and you've got big, big trouble. Were the Mexico examples in Mexico City (seems to be from reports, but cannot tell for sure). If so, just the air in Mexico city will result in impaired respiratory status. Then add in TB, and the top notch medical treatment you will get there, and you got yourself a real pickle. |
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I'm not sweating this... I'd have to know a whole lot more about the cases that died, including their co-morbidities. Were any of them smokers? Drinkers? Did any of them have TB? (endemic in mexico) "Healthy" can have great variability, depending on where you are in the world. Influenza is predominately a respiratory illness, and that's the lion's share of the symptoms... cough, fever, pharyngitis, aches, chills... sometimes vomiting (but usually that's in kids). It's the bacterial infections that piggy-back on top of the flu that really take people out. Add a nice MRSA pneumonia on top of the flu and you've got big, big trouble. Were the Mexico examples in Mexico City (seems to be from reports, but cannot tell for sure). If so, just the air in Mexico city will result in impaired respiratory status. Absolutely true... Mexico City is one of the worst-polluted cities in the world. You can get COPD just breathing the air down there. |
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Quoted: As long as it stays in Mexico, maybe some of the illegal immigration will slow down..... Except for those that are already here and infecting americans...  No way... It'll be just like World War Z... The worse it gets down there, the more will be trying to GTFO. |
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IT's ALL over the news. Remember this lovely quote: NEVER LET A GOOD CRISIS GO TO WASTE! So, what loss of liberty can we expect this time, "for our own good" TXL At yesterday's White House news conference reporters basically asked this question. Secretary Napolitano replied that she "wasn't going to get into a legal briefing here today." Um...OK... |
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I'm not sweating this... I'd have to know a whole lot more about the cases that died, including their co-morbidities. Were any of them smokers? Drinkers? Did any of them have TB? (endemic in mexico) "Healthy" can have great variability, depending on where you are in the world. Influenza is predominately a respiratory illness, and that's the lion's share of the symptoms... cough, fever, pharyngitis, aches, chills... sometimes vomiting (but usually that's in kids). It's the bacterial infections that piggy-back on top of the flu that really take people out. Add a nice MRSA pneumonia on top of the flu and you've got big, big trouble. Were the Mexico examples in Mexico City (seems to be from reports, but cannot tell for sure). If so, just the air in Mexico city will result in impaired respiratory status. Then add in TB, and the top notch medical treatment you will get there, and you got yourself a real pickle. 3rd world epidemics certainly need to be taken seriously and contained by 1st world governments if possible, but is no cause for widespread panic. |
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Tinfoil hat time.. That seems like an odd group of people to be vulnerable for a naturally occurring disease. The bio-weapon theory is definitely on the plain in my mind. Lets just see how this pans out over the next week. Take off the tin foil, read a history book. |
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fuck ubama I agree. He is showing no signs of leadership in this crisis. That's pretty funny! I was just commenting yesterday that we haven't seen Mr. Teleprompter much during this. Yet some tool on Fox News of all places, was just gushing over what a wonderful job Obama was doing with this crisis. Said he was showing "great leadership". I swear to God, I think the whole media is just making shit up at random. ANYTHING that happens anywhere in the world, they're trying to make it seem like The Messiah has got it under control. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: fuck ubama I agree. He is showing no signs of leadership in this crisis. That's pretty funny! I was just commenting yesterday that we haven't seen Mr. Teleprompter much during this. Yet some tool on Fox News of all places, was just gushing over what a wonderful job Obama was doing with this crisis. Said he was showing "great leadership". I swear to God, I think the whole media is just making shit up at random. ANYTHING that happens anywhere in the world, they're trying to make it seem like The Messiah has got it under control. I think they're just excited that he hasn't pre-empted prime time television introducing a trillion dollar program in response to it. |