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9/18/2025 12:17:05 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Cypher214:
Clickbait video.  The comet is legit but most of that is total horseshit about the size, trajectory, composition, and even it being interstellar.
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I didn't watch. Is Michio Kaku claiming any of the bullshit? I have another book of his on my countertop I need to read. If he is espousing this bullshit, I'm going to throw it in the trash.
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9/18/2025 9:18:36 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Kagetora:

I didn't watch. Is Michio Kaku claiming any of the bullshit? I have another book of his on my countertop I need to read. If he is espousing this bullshit, I'm going to throw it in the trash.
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Originally Posted By Kagetora:
Originally Posted By Cypher214:
Clickbait video.  The comet is legit but most of that is total horseshit about the size, trajectory, composition, and even it being interstellar.

I didn't watch. Is Michio Kaku claiming any of the bullshit? I have another book of his on my countertop I need to read. If he is espousing this bullshit, I'm going to throw it in the trash.


No. All those clickbait AI generated videos put people like him, black science man, Elon, etc in the thumb nails and then they’re nowhere in the video.

ETA: it’s not all bs about comet SWAN though. From space weather.com-

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9/18/2025 10:18:46 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Cypher214:
"The woo" holds the answers but we haven't even begun to understand what the hell "the woo" really is because our brains aren't built for it.  We call them "other dimensions" because we don't know what else to say.

In order to understand reality, there's going to have to be a bridge between science/materialism and mysticism.  It's nearly impossible when our entire culture has been built on "if we can't measure it, it doesn't exist".  If our consciousness is able to have an experience that seems every bit as "real" as the physical world, how is that not worth considering?  What we call "reality" is just a load of sensory inputs being interpreted by our meat brain and heavily influenced by our receptors.  Every individual experiences the physical world in a unique way but we've just collectively agreed on a set of rules to avoid confusion.  If multiple people experience similar things through deep meditation or psychedelics, how is that somehow less "real" than our brain interpreting signals from our retina?

I think whatever "they" are, they have a full grasp on all aspects of "the woo" and know how to utilize it.  It's an oft-repeated statement but "sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic" perfectly describes the space we're currently occupying with all this.

The pioneers are those studying DMT and the nature of consciousness.  They're on the right path to developing a whole new field of science that breaks us out of the materialist worldview.

It could be that whatever controls UAP is trying to nudge us in the right direction.  They could choose to behave in ways that conform to our understanding of reality but they typically don't.  So they're either indifferent OR they're gradually showing us "hey, you have potential but your science is flawed, watch this".
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Originally Posted By macman37:
Originally Posted By boolzi:
Everything in me says there is no way 2 interstellar life forms will ever meet because of sheer distance/time, but the kid in me is intrigued with the uap that ricocheted a missile, the tic tac vids, and the "biologics" we supposedly recovered from a ufo/uap. The "precise" trajectory to mars is interesting.

Maybe the key to interstellar travel is to master wrangling of large space objects, mining/hollowing out and putting in your stuff for the travel, basically using it as a shell to transport drones or equipment.


Barring some other means of propulsion for getting around the unimaginable vastness of the cosmos, like folding space  my guess is they're interdimensional.
"The woo" holds the answers but we haven't even begun to understand what the hell "the woo" really is because our brains aren't built for it.  We call them "other dimensions" because we don't know what else to say.

In order to understand reality, there's going to have to be a bridge between science/materialism and mysticism.  It's nearly impossible when our entire culture has been built on "if we can't measure it, it doesn't exist".  If our consciousness is able to have an experience that seems every bit as "real" as the physical world, how is that not worth considering?  What we call "reality" is just a load of sensory inputs being interpreted by our meat brain and heavily influenced by our receptors.  Every individual experiences the physical world in a unique way but we've just collectively agreed on a set of rules to avoid confusion.  If multiple people experience similar things through deep meditation or psychedelics, how is that somehow less "real" than our brain interpreting signals from our retina?

I think whatever "they" are, they have a full grasp on all aspects of "the woo" and know how to utilize it.  It's an oft-repeated statement but "sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic" perfectly describes the space we're currently occupying with all this.

The pioneers are those studying DMT and the nature of consciousness.  They're on the right path to developing a whole new field of science that breaks us out of the materialist worldview.

It could be that whatever controls UAP is trying to nudge us in the right direction.  They could choose to behave in ways that conform to our understanding of reality but they typically don't.  So they're either indifferent OR they're gradually showing us "hey, you have potential but your science is flawed, watch this".


The "doesn't exist if it can't be touched" is getting a dent in it from quantum mechanics.  It's covered by theory, but that theory is still only probability rather than a this or that kind of answer.

I don't think we have the language to properly discuss what is going on, as well as some new sort of fusion between hard sciences and crystal pyramid power.  That will take a while to digest as most will reject it out of hand, the way they're currently still doing with things openly admitted to as non human origin.

This thing is just another oddity, maybe some of the UAP from Earth have been making ferry runs, or will be making ferry runs back and forth for supplies that can't be found on Earth, or it's just a strange rock spinning around the galaxy.

I was thinking about the Delayed Decision Double Slit Experiment aka "quantum eraser" and cannot think how it "works".  It's literally a time machine that changes state after a photon is sent but before it is measured  that changes depending on somebody observing it.   That is mainstream science for over a decade and replicated by multiple schools, while being more "woo woo" than some of the strange stuff we see.  Just an odd juxtaposition there.

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9/18/2025 10:29:50 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By brass:


The "doesn't exist if it can't be touched" is getting a dent in it from quantum mechanics.  It's covered by theory, but that theory is still only probability rather than a this or that kind of answer.

I don't think we have the language to properly discuss what is going on, as well as some new sort of fusion between hard sciences and crystal pyramid power.  That will take a while to digest as most will reject it out of hand, the way they're currently still doing with things openly admitted to as non human origin.

This thing is just another oddity, maybe some of the UAP from Earth have been making ferry runs, or will be making ferry runs back and forth for supplies that can't be found on Earth, or it's just a strange rock spinning around the galaxy.

I was thinking about the Delayed Decision Double Slit Experiment aka "quantum eraser" and cannot think how it "works".  It's literally a time machine that changes state after a photon is sent but before it is measured  that changes depending on somebody observing it.   That is mainstream science for over a decade and replicated by multiple schools, while being more "woo woo" than some of the strange stuff we see.  Just an odd juxtaposition there.

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Originally Posted By brass:
Originally Posted By Cypher214:
Originally Posted By macman37:
Originally Posted By boolzi:
Everything in me says there is no way 2 interstellar life forms will ever meet because of sheer distance/time, but the kid in me is intrigued with the uap that ricocheted a missile, the tic tac vids, and the "biologics" we supposedly recovered from a ufo/uap. The "precise" trajectory to mars is interesting.

Maybe the key to interstellar travel is to master wrangling of large space objects, mining/hollowing out and putting in your stuff for the travel, basically using it as a shell to transport drones or equipment.


Barring some other means of propulsion for getting around the unimaginable vastness of the cosmos, like folding space  my guess is they're interdimensional.
"The woo" holds the answers but we haven't even begun to understand what the hell "the woo" really is because our brains aren't built for it.  We call them "other dimensions" because we don't know what else to say.

In order to understand reality, there's going to have to be a bridge between science/materialism and mysticism.  It's nearly impossible when our entire culture has been built on "if we can't measure it, it doesn't exist".  If our consciousness is able to have an experience that seems every bit as "real" as the physical world, how is that not worth considering?  What we call "reality" is just a load of sensory inputs being interpreted by our meat brain and heavily influenced by our receptors.  Every individual experiences the physical world in a unique way but we've just collectively agreed on a set of rules to avoid confusion.  If multiple people experience similar things through deep meditation or psychedelics, how is that somehow less "real" than our brain interpreting signals from our retina?

I think whatever "they" are, they have a full grasp on all aspects of "the woo" and know how to utilize it.  It's an oft-repeated statement but "sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic" perfectly describes the space we're currently occupying with all this.

The pioneers are those studying DMT and the nature of consciousness.  They're on the right path to developing a whole new field of science that breaks us out of the materialist worldview.

It could be that whatever controls UAP is trying to nudge us in the right direction.  They could choose to behave in ways that conform to our understanding of reality but they typically don't.  So they're either indifferent OR they're gradually showing us "hey, you have potential but your science is flawed, watch this".


The "doesn't exist if it can't be touched" is getting a dent in it from quantum mechanics.  It's covered by theory, but that theory is still only probability rather than a this or that kind of answer.

I don't think we have the language to properly discuss what is going on, as well as some new sort of fusion between hard sciences and crystal pyramid power.  That will take a while to digest as most will reject it out of hand, the way they're currently still doing with things openly admitted to as non human origin.

This thing is just another oddity, maybe some of the UAP from Earth have been making ferry runs, or will be making ferry runs back and forth for supplies that can't be found on Earth, or it's just a strange rock spinning around the galaxy.

I was thinking about the Delayed Decision Double Slit Experiment aka "quantum eraser" and cannot think how it "works".  It's literally a time machine that changes state after a photon is sent but before it is measured  that changes depending on somebody observing it.   That is mainstream science for over a decade and replicated by multiple schools, while being more "woo woo" than some of the strange stuff we see.  Just an odd juxtaposition there.

Yeah, they basically accept that "information" moves faster than light, but nobody can figure out the how or why.
Everything posted above is factual. Maybe.
9/18/2025 10:34:02 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By bkpkr:


No. All those clickbait AI generated videos put people like him, black science man, Elon, etc in the thumb nails and then they're nowhere in the video.

ETA: it's not all bs about comet SWAN though. From space weather.com-

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/125849/IMG_4348_jpeg-3626022.JPG
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Originally Posted By Kagetora:
Originally Posted By Cypher214:
Clickbait video.  The comet is legit but most of that is total horseshit about the size, trajectory, composition, and even it being interstellar.

I didn't watch. Is Michio Kaku claiming any of the bullshit? I have another book of his on my countertop I need to read. If he is espousing this bullshit, I'm going to throw it in the trash.


No. All those clickbait AI generated videos put people like him, black science man, Elon, etc in the thumb nails and then they're nowhere in the video.

ETA: it's not all bs about comet SWAN though. From space weather.com-

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/125849/IMG_4348_jpeg-3626022.JPG
I saw that.  They sure are making light of going through a broken-up comet's debris field with the "it could make a nice pretty meteor shower" comments.  Cometary debris fields have caused major impacts on Earth.

Maybe this comet is too small to produce any sizable fragments, but it's still worth keeping an eye on.
Everything posted above is factual. Maybe.
9/18/2025 10:49:01 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Cypher214:
I saw that.  They sure are making light of going through a broken-up comet's debris field with the "it could make a nice pretty meteor shower" comments.  Cometary debris fields have caused major impacts on Earth.

Maybe this comet is too small to produce any sizable fragments, but it's still worth keeping an eye on.
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Originally Posted By Cypher214:
Originally Posted By bkpkr:
Originally Posted By Kagetora:
Originally Posted By Cypher214:
Clickbait video.  The comet is legit but most of that is total horseshit about the size, trajectory, composition, and even it being interstellar.

I didn't watch. Is Michio Kaku claiming any of the bullshit? I have another book of his on my countertop I need to read. If he is espousing this bullshit, I'm going to throw it in the trash.


No. All those clickbait AI generated videos put people like him, black science man, Elon, etc in the thumb nails and then they're nowhere in the video.

ETA: it's not all bs about comet SWAN though. From space weather.com-

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/125849/IMG_4348_jpeg-3626022.JPG
I saw that.  They sure are making light of going through a broken-up comet's debris field with the "it could make a nice pretty meteor shower" comments.  Cometary debris fields have caused major impacts on Earth.

Maybe this comet is too small to produce any sizable fragments, but it's still worth keeping an eye on.


I’d love to witness a meteor storm in my lifetime. A YD bombardment type event not so much.

When's the Next METEOR STORM??
9/18/2025 12:20:08 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Kagetora:

Even with the update, we're still missing a like button for posts on this site.

Mining/hollowing out an asteroid and putting a 5m layer of ice around it would shield you from any radiation the cosmos tosses at you. A thicker layer of ice at the "front" protects you from micro-impacts. Set spinning, a large enough body would feel like normal gravity for you (whatever "normal" is for your species) without you even noticing (the larger the better). The biggest issue is getting it up to speed, but even that is surmounted by a decent fusion engine (which could use the hydrogen in the ice for fuel) firing for long enough. I looked into this pretty seriously when I was collaborating on a writing project with a friend, and even something like a constant .1g of acceleration gets you up to .1C in a few/several months.

The problem comes with stopping, and it's not even really a problem of anything beyond time constraints. You have to turn around and decelerate for the same amount of time, so you have to know where you want to stop well in advance of doing so. Or...

...just fly on through the system, and keep going.

I'm still pretty sure it's just a rock/iceball, but the possibility is there that it's not. In a century (or three), we'll be able to do what I described above. Will we?

Or, yeah...all the "woo" is extra-dimensional, or we live in a simulation, or, or, or...

It's a fun time to be alive, to be sure.
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Originally Posted By boolzi:
Everything in me says there is no way 2 interstellar life forms will ever meet because of sheer distance/time, but the kid in me is intrigued with the uap that ricocheted a missile, the tic tac vids, and the “biologics” we supposedly recovered from a ufo/uap. The “precise” trajectory to mars is interesting.

Maybe the key to interstellar travel is to master wrangling of large space objects, mining/hollowing out and putting in your stuff for the travel, basically using it as a shell to transport drones or equipment.

Even with the update, we're still missing a like button for posts on this site.

Mining/hollowing out an asteroid and putting a 5m layer of ice around it would shield you from any radiation the cosmos tosses at you. A thicker layer of ice at the "front" protects you from micro-impacts. Set spinning, a large enough body would feel like normal gravity for you (whatever "normal" is for your species) without you even noticing (the larger the better). The biggest issue is getting it up to speed, but even that is surmounted by a decent fusion engine (which could use the hydrogen in the ice for fuel) firing for long enough. I looked into this pretty seriously when I was collaborating on a writing project with a friend, and even something like a constant .1g of acceleration gets you up to .1C in a few/several months.

The problem comes with stopping, and it's not even really a problem of anything beyond time constraints. You have to turn around and decelerate for the same amount of time, so you have to know where you want to stop well in advance of doing so. Or...

...just fly on through the system, and keep going.

I'm still pretty sure it's just a rock/iceball, but the possibility is there that it's not. In a century (or three), we'll be able to do what I described above. Will we?

Or, yeah...all the "woo" is extra-dimensional, or we live in a simulation, or, or, or...

It's a fun time to be alive, to be sure.

You wouldn’t need to stop the rock, you just launch from it, as in launch out into mars orbit or land your equipment there.
9/18/2025 1:26:37 PM EDT
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We now have 7 comets going through the solar system....

A Swarm of Comets is Flying into the Inner Solar System ?? 3I/ATLAS is Growing BIGGER

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9/18/2025 4:41:15 PM EDT
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Wait, one big one, now a bunch more?

Has this ever happened or are we just tuned into looking for them better?
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9/18/2025 4:44:43 PM EDT
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Wait, one big one, now a bunch more?

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We're doing a better job of looking for them, thanks to the Vera Rubin observatory.
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9/18/2025 5:03:43 PM EDT
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We're doing a better job of looking for them, thanks to the Vera Rubin observatory.
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Originally Posted By absael:
Originally Posted By Finslayer83:
Wait, one big one, now a bunch more?

Has this ever happened or are we just tuned into looking for them better?
We're doing a better job of looking for them, thanks to the Vera Rubin observatory.


Yeah that’s what I was thinking.

Previously we were blissfully ignorant. Now we’re going to realize just how many visiting asteroids and comets swing by to say hi.
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9/18/2025 9:53:41 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By bkpkr:


No. All those clickbait AI generated videos put people like him, black science man, Elon, etc in the thumb nails and then they’re nowhere in the video.

ETA: it’s not all bs about comet SWAN though. From space weather.com-

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/125849/IMG_4348_jpeg-3626022.JPG
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Originally Posted By Kagetora:
Originally Posted By Cypher214:
Clickbait video.  The comet is legit but most of that is total horseshit about the size, trajectory, composition, and even it being interstellar.

I didn't watch. Is Michio Kaku claiming any of the bullshit? I have another book of his on my countertop I need to read. If he is espousing this bullshit, I'm going to throw it in the trash.


No. All those clickbait AI generated videos put people like him, black science man, Elon, etc in the thumb nails and then they’re nowhere in the video.

ETA: it’s not all bs about comet SWAN though. From space weather.com-

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/125849/IMG_4348_jpeg-3626022.JPG


This is why I love this place.  Quick and easy path through the BS, but still find some great nuggets of insight.
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9/18/2025 9:57:11 PM EDT
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I’d love to witness a meteor storm in my lifetime. A YD bombardment type event not so much.

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The Three Body Problem is often quoted in recent interviews like Malmgren as significant.  I wonder if we are thinking of it backwards. People usually  assume it’s because it’s about a slow moving alien invasion that forces science underground.  But what if it’s a clue that WE have a semi unpredictable extinction cycle, like the Tri-Solarans.
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9/18/2025 11:45:26 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By boolzi:

You wouldn’t need to stop the rock, you just launch from it, as in launch out into mars orbit or land your equipment there.
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True. It would depend on how you planned the mission potentially centuries or even millennia ago. Do we have a bunch of landing craft, or do we need to decelerate into orbit around a target?
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9/19/2025 8:39:30 AM EDT
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But what if it’s a clue that WE have a semi unpredictable extinction cycle, like the Tri-Solarans.
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But what if it’s a clue that WE have a semi unpredictable extinction cycle, like the Tri-Solarans.


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The concept has also inspired modern speculative theories. A 2004 documentary titled The Great Year explores the hypothesis that the rise and fall of ancient civilizations may be linked to the Sun's motion around a hypothetical companion star, a theory proposed by Walter Cruttenden and supported by some interpretations of ancient myths and megalithic structures.
The film suggests that the precession of the equinoxes, which takes about 25,800 years, could be evidence of a larger, binary stellar cycle influencing human history.
This idea is tied to the broader concept of astrological ages, where each age corresponds to a zodiacal sign and lasts roughly 2,150 years, with a full Great Year cycle of about 25,772 years marking the completion of all twelve ages.
Despite the lack of scientific consensus, the Great Year remains a powerful symbol of cyclical time across diverse traditions.


9/19/2025 11:49:56 AM EDT
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https://spaceweather.com/


INTERSTELLAR COMET ATLAS IS BRIGHTENING RAPIDLY: The forecasts are officially broken. Since September began, interstellar comet 3I/ATLAS has brightened 40-fold, far more than standard models would predict.

"We can confirm the the significant increase in brightness," report Gerald Rhemann and Michael Jäger. "Our images taken in Namibia on Sept. 17th show the comet already at 12th magnitude." Here is their latest photo:



"The comet has a green atmosphere (coma) about 5 arcminutes in diameter, and a tail that continues to point toward the sun--the opposite of the usual direction," they say.

Marshall Eubanks of Space Initiatives Inc. created this plot showing how 3I/ATLAS is over-performing compared to standard models:



The sudden increase in brightness might be a temporary outburst, or it could be a sign that the comet will become much brighter than initially estimated. Indeed, there is no true "standard model" for an interstellar comet. It might evolve in ways totally unlike comets from our own solar system.

If this trend continues, Comet ATLAS could put on a good show as it passes Mars on Oct. 3rd at a distance of 29 million kilometers. Multiple Mars orbiters will turn to look at the comet including the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter (NASA), the Trace Gas Orbiter (ESA) and Mars Express (ESA). Astronomers on Earth are encouraged to monitor the comet on this date, too, to support the Martian campaign.
9/19/2025 1:13:37 PM EDT
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This is making my writer’s brain go into overdrive…

Martian ark-ship returns from multi-billion year journey of discovery only to find homeworld utterly barren; meanwhile, planet that was previously only inhabited by bacteria is thriving…
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9/19/2025 2:47:31 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By DaGoose:
https://spaceweather.com/


INTERSTELLAR COMET ATLAS IS BRIGHTENING RAPIDLY: The forecasts are officially broken. Since September began, interstellar comet 3I/ATLAS has brightened 40-fold, far more than standard models would predict.

"We can confirm the the significant increase in brightness," report Gerald Rhemann and Michael Jäger. "Our images taken in Namibia on Sept. 17th show the comet already at 12th magnitude." Here is their latest photo:

https://spaceweather.com/images2025/19sep25/atlas_strip.jpg

"The comet has a green atmosphere (coma) about 5 arcminutes in diameter, and a tail that continues to point toward the sun--the opposite of the usual direction," they say.

Marshall Eubanks of Space Initiatives Inc. created this plot showing how 3I/ATLAS is over-performing compared to standard models:

https://spaceweather.com/images2025/19sep25/standardmodels_strip.png

The sudden increase in brightness might be a temporary outburst, or it could be a sign that the comet will become much brighter than initially estimated. Indeed, there is no true "standard model" for an interstellar comet. It might evolve in ways totally unlike comets from our own solar system.

If this trend continues, Comet ATLAS could put on a good show as it passes Mars on Oct. 3rd at a distance of 29 million kilometers. Multiple Mars orbiters will turn to look at the comet including the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter (NASA), the Trace Gas Orbiter (ESA) and Mars Express (ESA). Astronomers on Earth are encouraged to monitor the comet on this date, too, to support the Martian campaign.
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How could an "interstellar comet" reflect sunlight differently than one from this solar system?  I mean, there's only so much that can be different before we need to use a different word than "comet" here.  There are only so many ways a comet can reflect light for a "standard model" of water/ice/(+Nickel/Iron?) which should change brightness with inverse square law.   This is now in the realm of "Chapter 1"...   Stock up on Maple Syrup I guess, and about every other potential commodity to trade if they're peaceful.

I know we have a few astrophotography guys here, how many have an 8"+ SCT or 10" Reflector to see Mag 15 with?  I suppose the glass/mirror quality also has to be high for those floor sizes of light collection but I think @AZ_Sky and @FredMan (@FredM?) have enough oomph and is it Cypher in this forum?  We should source our own images of TEOTWAKI.


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9/19/2025 9:03:57 PM EDT
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How could an "interstellar comet" reflect sunlight differently than one from this solar system?  I mean, there's only so much that can be different before we need to use a different word than "comet" here.  There are only so many ways a comet can reflect light for a "standard model" of water/ice/(+Nickel/Iron?) which should change brightness with inverse square law.   This is now in the realm of "Chapter 1"...   Stock up on Maple Syrup I guess, and about every other potential commodity to trade if they're peaceful.

I know we have a few astrophotography guys here, how many have an 8"+ SCT or 10" Reflector to see Mag 15 with?  I suppose the glass/mirror quality also has to be high for those floor sizes of light collection but I think @AZ_Sky and @FredMan (@FredM?) have enough oomph and is it Cypher in this forum?  We should source our own images of TEOTWAKI.


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I’m waiting until October to go after SWAN, and don’t hold your breath. I use regular photo gear with a long (500mm) lens.

I’m holding off on ATLAS until I read something that tells me it’ll be worth the effort to try to capture.

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9/20/2025 9:15:45 AM EDT
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I took the original  picture zoomed in and added it. Looks like it's glowing a different color on it's right side.

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9/21/2025 5:29:12 AM EDT
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NASA will capture photos of it from the MARS observer orbiting mars.  We will need to demand the release of these images, but they will likely remain classified, especially if its an alien ship.

When it approaches mars they will take the photos.
9/21/2025 9:30:38 AM EDT
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I took the original  picture zoomed in and added it. Looks like it's glowing a different color on it's right side.

https://i.imgur.com/uKf2oE7.png
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Respectfully, you’re working with a 2 MP image, that’s had who knows how many passes through amateur photoshop buffoons, and who knows how many compression algorithms applied, that’s just chock full of rando jpeg artifacts. And then you add a crop at greater than 1:1.

It’s well nigh impossible to develop any meaningful information about brightness from that image.
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9/21/2025 2:22:38 PM EDT
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The Great Year is a deep rabbit-hole:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3ZDcj0kF_0
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Originally Posted By sq40:
But what if it’s a clue that WE have a semi unpredictable extinction cycle, like the Tri-Solarans.


The Great Year is a deep rabbit-hole:
The concept has also inspired modern speculative theories. A 2004 documentary titled The Great Year explores the hypothesis that the rise and fall of ancient civilizations may be linked to the Sun's motion around a hypothetical companion star, a theory proposed by Walter Cruttenden and supported by some interpretations of ancient myths and megalithic structures.
The film suggests that the precession of the equinoxes, which takes about 25,800 years, could be evidence of a larger, binary stellar cycle influencing human history.
This idea is tied to the broader concept of astrological ages, where each age corresponds to a zodiacal sign and lasts roughly 2,150 years, with a full Great Year cycle of about 25,772 years marking the completion of all twelve ages.
Despite the lack of scientific consensus, the Great Year remains a powerful symbol of cyclical time across diverse traditions.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3ZDcj0kF_0


Perhaps every great year we pass through a debris cloud of interstellar objects.  Some great years are worse than others?
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9/21/2025 3:39:20 PM EDT
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This is making my writer’s brain go into overdrive…

Martian ark-ship returns from multi-billion year journey of discovery only to find homeworld utterly barren; meanwhile, planet that was previously only inhabited by bacteria is thriving…
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Link to book

Panem et Circenses

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9/22/2025 12:22:03 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By sq40:
Originally Posted By anothermisanthrope:
Originally Posted By sq40:
But what if it’s a clue that WE have a semi unpredictable extinction cycle, like the Tri-Solarans.


The Great Year is a deep rabbit-hole:
The concept has also inspired modern speculative theories. A 2004 documentary titled The Great Year explores the hypothesis that the rise and fall of ancient civilizations may be linked to the Sun's motion around a hypothetical companion star, a theory proposed by Walter Cruttenden and supported by some interpretations of ancient myths and megalithic structures.
The film suggests that the precession of the equinoxes, which takes about 25,800 years, could be evidence of a larger, binary stellar cycle influencing human history.
This idea is tied to the broader concept of astrological ages, where each age corresponds to a zodiacal sign and lasts roughly 2,150 years, with a full Great Year cycle of about 25,772 years marking the completion of all twelve ages.
Despite the lack of scientific consensus, the Great Year remains a powerful symbol of cyclical time across diverse traditions.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3ZDcj0kF_0


Perhaps every great year we pass through a debris cloud of interstellar objects.  Some great years are worse than others?


There was somebody that did a technical deep dive on the Great Year and Mayan Calendar (also 26k years) and suspected Perseids or Taurids had a couple medium large which caused the resets, with other meteor showers coming with larger chunks from a distant binary sort of setup having their own "Planet X" kicking out small and large rocks from a solar system in Perseus or Taurus, or could be a different one that no longer is spitting out rocks which is the end of us.

We're into the guessing and napkin zone so far that it's all just chewing gum and we won't know until < 72 hours prior to an impactor unless the 3 scanning hyper resolution scopes find more.  That Vera Rubin one has a 4 ft CCD Sensor which gives insane "digital zoom" on top of the big mirrors and lenses on the telescope.  

I think we are finding new things more often and quickly because of the switch from 4' square film negatives that need to be developed then manually examined by astronomers, while today surveys can be done from anywhere in the world and all the date crunched immediately.  No negatives to go dark to swap out and no efficiency losses so the telescopes can really run at full capture speed and feed computer s which are continually looking for an occluded star/planet or fast moving reflection to find something new, and that is a practice that would have been dreadfully slow with film.   I think every major telescope has now been upgraded to digital, and a few of those are due for newer sensors for higher density of pixels and faster readout as well as lower noise floor.   The digital upgrades save money when you realize how much developing half sheet of plywood sized negatives and then hundreds of hours looking at incremental changes.  

It's a great time to be alive for sure, and the JWST almost obsoleted itself after discovering the universe isn't exactly like it was thought, but there's a whole lot more it can still do in it's position  with extremely cooled sensors and self repairing/modifying mirrors to withstand the dust at L2, which has been found to have more traffic bits than previously thought.


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9/22/2025 6:59:45 AM EDT
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There was somebody that did a technical deep dive on the Great Year and Mayan Calendar (also 26k years) and suspected Perseids or Taurids had a couple medium large which caused the resets, with other meteor showers coming with larger chunks from a distant binary sort of setup having their own "Planet X" kicking out small and large rocks from a solar system in Perseus or Taurus, or could be a different one that no longer is spitting out rocks which is the end of us.

We're into the guessing and napkin zone so far that it's all just chewing gum and we won't know until < 72 hours prior to an impactor unless the 3 scanning hyper resolution scopes find more.  That Vera Rubin one has a 4 ft CCD Sensor which gives insane "digital zoom" on top of the big mirrors and lenses not he telescope.  

I think we are finding new things more often and quickly because of the switch from 4' square film negatives that need to be developed then manually examined by astronomers, while today surveys can be done from anywhere in the world and all the date crunched immediately.  No negatives to go dark to swap out and no efficiency losses so the telescopes can really run at full capture speed and feed computer s which are continually looking for an occluded star/planet or fast moving reflection to find something new, and that is a practice that would have been dreadfully slow with film.   I think every major telescope has now been upgraded to digital, and a few of those are due for newer sensors for higher density of pixels and faster readout as well as lower noise floor.   The digital upgrades save money when you realize how much developing half sheet of plywood sized negatives and then hundreds of hours looking at incremental changes.  

It's a great time to be alive for sure, and the JWST almost obsoleted itself after discovering the universe isn't exactly like it was thought, but there's a whole lot more it can still do in it's position  with extremely cooled sensors and self repairing/modifying mirrors to withstand the dust at L2, which has been found to have more traffic bits than previously thought.


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Originally Posted By sq40:
Originally Posted By anothermisanthrope:
Originally Posted By sq40:
But what if it’s a clue that WE have a semi unpredictable extinction cycle, like the Tri-Solarans.


The Great Year is a deep rabbit-hole:
The concept has also inspired modern speculative theories. A 2004 documentary titled The Great Year explores the hypothesis that the rise and fall of ancient civilizations may be linked to the Sun's motion around a hypothetical companion star, a theory proposed by Walter Cruttenden and supported by some interpretations of ancient myths and megalithic structures.
The film suggests that the precession of the equinoxes, which takes about 25,800 years, could be evidence of a larger, binary stellar cycle influencing human history.
This idea is tied to the broader concept of astrological ages, where each age corresponds to a zodiacal sign and lasts roughly 2,150 years, with a full Great Year cycle of about 25,772 years marking the completion of all twelve ages.
Despite the lack of scientific consensus, the Great Year remains a powerful symbol of cyclical time across diverse traditions.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3ZDcj0kF_0


Perhaps every great year we pass through a debris cloud of interstellar objects.  Some great years are worse than others?


There was somebody that did a technical deep dive on the Great Year and Mayan Calendar (also 26k years) and suspected Perseids or Taurids had a couple medium large which caused the resets, with other meteor showers coming with larger chunks from a distant binary sort of setup having their own "Planet X" kicking out small and large rocks from a solar system in Perseus or Taurus, or could be a different one that no longer is spitting out rocks which is the end of us.

We're into the guessing and napkin zone so far that it's all just chewing gum and we won't know until < 72 hours prior to an impactor unless the 3 scanning hyper resolution scopes find more.  That Vera Rubin one has a 4 ft CCD Sensor which gives insane "digital zoom" on top of the big mirrors and lenses not he telescope.  

I think we are finding new things more often and quickly because of the switch from 4' square film negatives that need to be developed then manually examined by astronomers, while today surveys can be done from anywhere in the world and all the date crunched immediately.  No negatives to go dark to swap out and no efficiency losses so the telescopes can really run at full capture speed and feed computer s which are continually looking for an occluded star/planet or fast moving reflection to find something new, and that is a practice that would have been dreadfully slow with film.   I think every major telescope has now been upgraded to digital, and a few of those are due for newer sensors for higher density of pixels and faster readout as well as lower noise floor.   The digital upgrades save money when you realize how much developing half sheet of plywood sized negatives and then hundreds of hours looking at incremental changes.  

It's a great time to be alive for sure, and the JWST almost obsoleted itself after discovering the universe isn't exactly like it was thought, but there's a whole lot more it can still do in it's position  with extremely cooled sensors and self repairing/modifying mirrors to withstand the dust at L2, which has been found to have more traffic bits than previously thought.




Four foot CCD? Did I read that right?
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9/22/2025 4:25:49 PM EDT
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Apparently so!  

https://rubinobservatory.org/explore/how-rubin-works/technology/camera

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9/22/2025 8:19:20 PM EDT
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This is making my writer’s brain go into overdrive…

Martian ark-ship returns from multi-billion year journey of discovery only to find homeworld utterly barren; meanwhile, planet that was previously only inhabited by bacteria is thriving…


Link to book



For grins I added a bit of context and had Grok make an outline and the first few chapters for me… it did amazingly well, so I’m going to guide this thing and write an actual book out of it …
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9/22/2025 8:20:00 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By macman37:


Four foot CCD? Did I read that right?

Apparently so!  

https://rubinobservatory.org/explore/how-rubin-works/technology/camera

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/77154/IMG_1653-3628783.jpg


😍
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9/23/2025 8:07:37 AM EDT
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Perhaps every great year we pass through a debris cloud of interstellar objects.  Some great years are worse than others?
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Originally Posted By sq40:
Originally Posted By anothermisanthrope:
Originally Posted By sq40:
But what if it’s a clue that WE have a semi unpredictable extinction cycle, like the Tri-Solarans.


The Great Year is a deep rabbit-hole:
The concept has also inspired modern speculative theories. A 2004 documentary titled The Great Year explores the hypothesis that the rise and fall of ancient civilizations may be linked to the Sun's motion around a hypothetical companion star, a theory proposed by Walter Cruttenden and supported by some interpretations of ancient myths and megalithic structures.
The film suggests that the precession of the equinoxes, which takes about 25,800 years, could be evidence of a larger, binary stellar cycle influencing human history.
This idea is tied to the broader concept of astrological ages, where each age corresponds to a zodiacal sign and lasts roughly 2,150 years, with a full Great Year cycle of about 25,772 years marking the completion of all twelve ages.
Despite the lack of scientific consensus, the Great Year remains a powerful symbol of cyclical time across diverse traditions.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3ZDcj0kF_0


Perhaps every great year we pass through a debris cloud of interstellar objects.  Some great years are worse than others?


This guy (Jesse M podcast link) thinks it may be a CME caused by a dead binary companion star - and that Göbekli Tepe may exist to measure it via procession, Derinkuyu was built in anticipation of it, and Mars lost it's atmosphere because of it.
9/23/2025 10:42:35 AM EDT
[#31]
https://spaceweather.com/

A CME IS HEADING FOR INTERSTELLAR COMET ATLAS: How often does a CME from our own sun strike a comet from interstellar space? It's rare, so tomorrow's collision is worth watching. Physicist T. Marshall Eubanks of Space Initiatives Inc realized that a CME launched on Sept. 19th will reach the location of Comet 3I/ATLAS on Sept. 24th or 25th. Mars could receive a glancing blow, too. Observers should be alert for irregularities the comet's tail, which could be bent or disconnected by the impact.
9/23/2025 12:45:46 PM EDT
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https://spaceweather.com/

A CME IS HEADING FOR INTERSTELLAR COMET ATLAS: How often does a CME from our own sun strike a comet from interstellar space? It's rare, so tomorrow's collision is worth watching. Physicist T. Marshall Eubanks of Space Initiatives Inc realized that a CME launched on Sept. 19th will reach the location of Comet 3I/ATLAS on Sept. 24th or 25th. Mars could receive a glancing blow, too. Observers should be alert for irregularities the comet's tail, which could be bent or disconnected by the impact.
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So they’re saying this CME might be akin to Ringworld’s Meteor Defense system?

Which begs the question, Will the Pak finally show themselves?
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9/24/2025 7:23:18 AM EDT
[#33]
https://spaceweather.com/

A CME IS HEADING FOR INTERSTELLAR COMET ATLAS: How often does a CME from our sun strike a comet from interstellar space? Almost never--so today’s collision is worth watching. According to a NASA forecast model, a CME launched on Sept. 19th will reach Comet 3I/ATLAS on Sept. 24th or 25th. CMEs hitting Solar System comets have been known to kink or even disconnect their tails. What happens to an interstellar comet is anyone’s guess.

The timing is fortuitous. The potential impact comes only a week before the comet disappears into the sun’s glare, giving astronomers a narrow window to record the event. It also coincides with the comet’s recent brightening--a 40-fold increase since the beginning of September.



Gerald Rhemann and Michael Jäger took this picture of the comet on Sept. 17th. "We can confirm Thomas Lehmann’s recent detection of the comet’s increase in brightness," says Jäger. Since September began, it has jumped in magnitude from +16 to +12.

Most of the brightness increase is in one color: green. This suggests a surge of gas production as the comet nears the sun. The key compound is diatomic carbon (C2), which glows emerald when energized by solar UV radiation.

This plot from Marshall Eubanks of Space Initiatives, Inc. shows what is probably happening:



His model breaks the comet's brightness into two pieces--a contribution from dust (red line) and a contribution from gas (blue dashed line). The surging gas component is making the comet bright just in time for its early-October encounter with Mars and a fleet of spacecraft orbiting the Red Planet. We will cover *that* later this week. Stay tuned!

Thanks! To Marshall Eubanks for noticing and pointing out the CME-comet encounter.
9/24/2025 7:25:25 AM EDT
[#34]
https://earthsky.org/sun/sun-news-activity-solar-flare-cme-aurora-updates/

Sun news September 24: Sun activity moderate with an M flare
(11 UTC to 11 UTC)
Today’s top story: Sun activity jumped up to a moderate level with the production of an isolated M1.0 flare from active region AR4217 in the southwest. The blast occurred at 10:34 UTC on September 23 just before our closing time of our edition yesterday but information was still not available for us to report. Along with the M flare, a type II radio emission was registered at 10:43 UTC along with an R1 (minor) radio blackout observed over Africa. Flare production also view an increase with 14 flares blasted out during the period. Stay tuned.

Flare activity: Solar activity jumped to moderate levels with the production of an isolated M-class (moderate) flare over the past day. The sun blasted out 14 flares in total, one M plus 13 C-class flares.
Strongest: M1.0 from AR4217 at 10:34 UTC on September 23. Shortly after the blast, an R1 (minor) radio blackout was registered affecting an area over Africa.
Other notable flares: C6.7 (AR4224 at 2:29 UTC), C5.5 (AR4226 at 6:31 UTC), and C2.9 (AR4230 at 1:41 UTC). AR4226 was the most productive region during the period with seven C flares.
Sunspot regions: The Earth-facing side of the sun shows nine numbered active regions.
Three active region on the solar disk developed a gamma magnetic complexity. They are: AR4217 (southwest), AR4226 (southeast) and AR4229 (southwest), the three with a beta-gamma configuration.
The rest of the regions remained small, stable, or slowly decayed.
There are two newcomers on the solar disk. They are numbered now AR4229 in the southwest and AR4230 in the southeast.
Blasts from the sun? No Earth-directed coronal mass ejections (CMEs) appeared in coronagraph imagery.
Solar wind: The solar wind stayed at moderately high levels from 669 km/s down to 540 km/s at the end of this period. The IMF rose to moderate levels, and the Bz flipped between north and south but the strongest part was northward. At the end of the period it stays north oriented. A southward Bz is favorable for auroras.
Earth’s magnetic field: Conditions ranged from quiet to active (Kp = 2–4). Kp = 4 threshold was reached at around 12 UTC on September 23 then dropped down. The Kp = 2 at the end of the period.
What’s ahead? Sun–Earth forecast
Flare activity forecast: Mostly C-class activity is expected, with a 35% chance of an M-class (R1–R2) flare, most likely from AR4224, AR4226 and AR4230.
Geomagnetic activity forecast:
September 24: Quiet to unsettled conditions are expected for the rest of the day today.
September 25: Conditions should ease to quiet as coronal hole effects diminish.
9/24/2025 12:02:59 PM EDT
[#35]
Todays coronal hole image from Solarham




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9/25/2025 3:38:27 AM EDT
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There was somebody that did a technical deep dive on the Great Year and Mayan Calendar (also 26k years) and suspected Perseids or Taurids had a couple medium large which caused the resets, with other meteor showers coming with larger chunks from a distant binary sort of setup having their own "Planet X" kicking out small and large rocks from a solar system in Perseus or Taurus, or could be a different one that no longer is spitting out rocks which is the end of us.

We're into the guessing and napkin zone so far that it's all just chewing gum and we won't know until < 72 hours prior to an impactor unless the 3 scanning hyper resolution scopes find more.  That Vera Rubin one has a 4 ft CCD Sensor which gives insane "digital zoom" on top of the big mirrors and lenses not he telescope.  

I think we are finding new things more often and quickly because of the switch from 4' square film negatives that need to be developed then manually examined by astronomers, while today surveys can be done from anywhere in the world and all the date crunched immediately.  No negatives to go dark to swap out and no efficiency losses so the telescopes can really run at full capture speed and feed computer s which are continually looking for an occluded star/planet or fast moving reflection to find something new, and that is a practice that would have been dreadfully slow with film.   I think every major telescope has now been upgraded to digital, and a few of those are due for newer sensors for higher density of pixels and faster readout as well as lower noise floor.   The digital upgrades save money when you realize how much developing half sheet of plywood sized negatives and then hundreds of hours looking at incremental changes.  

It's a great time to be alive for sure, and the JWST almost obsoleted itself after discovering the universe isn't exactly like it was thought, but there's a whole lot more it can still do in it's position  with extremely cooled sensors and self repairing/modifying mirrors to withstand the dust at L2, which has been found to have more traffic bits than previously thought.


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Thats really interesting on the digital side and sensor quality, which will only improve.  So really these may not be rare objects at all.

This opens up a whole new area of science then, interstellar visitors. What we have observed so far is incredibly interesting.
“The eye sees only what the mind is prepared to comprehend.” - Henri Bergson
9/25/2025 3:43:34 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By anothermisanthrope:


This guy (Jesse M podcast link) thinks it may be a CME caused by a dead binary companion star - and that Göbekli Tepe may exist to measure it via procession, Derinkuyu was built in anticipation of it, and Mars lost it's atmosphere because of it.
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But what if it’s a clue that WE have a semi unpredictable extinction cycle, like the Tri-Solarans.


The Great Year is a deep rabbit-hole:
The concept has also inspired modern speculative theories. A 2004 documentary titled The Great Year explores the hypothesis that the rise and fall of ancient civilizations may be linked to the Sun's motion around a hypothetical companion star, a theory proposed by Walter Cruttenden and supported by some interpretations of ancient myths and megalithic structures.
The film suggests that the precession of the equinoxes, which takes about 25,800 years, could be evidence of a larger, binary stellar cycle influencing human history.
This idea is tied to the broader concept of astrological ages, where each age corresponds to a zodiacal sign and lasts roughly 2,150 years, with a full Great Year cycle of about 25,772 years marking the completion of all twelve ages.
Despite the lack of scientific consensus, the Great Year remains a powerful symbol of cyclical time across diverse traditions.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3ZDcj0kF_0


Perhaps every great year we pass through a debris cloud of interstellar objects.  Some great years are worse than others?


This guy (Jesse M podcast link) thinks it may be a CME caused by a dead binary companion star - and that Göbekli Tepe may exist to measure it via procession, Derinkuyu was built in anticipation of it, and Mars lost it's atmosphere because of it.


I need to watch that.

I have read many Graham Hancock books and he centers around the idea of a single disaster.  But if it’s cyclic, and that’s what the real deal is, then no wonder the media went hard on cancelling him, because it’s not a huge leap from saying Younger Dryas was a single event to a reoccurring one.

There have been a lot of people talk about pole shifts, a few on crust displacement.  But predictable bombardment not so much. And maybe thats the big secret.
“The eye sees only what the mind is prepared to comprehend.” - Henri Bergson
9/25/2025 10:39:01 AM EDT
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I need to watch that.

I have read many Graham Hancock books and he centers around the idea of a single disaster.  But if it's cyclic, and that's what the real deal is, then no wonder the media went hard on cancelling him, because it's not a huge leap from saying Younger Dryas was a single event to a reoccurring one.

There have been a lot of people talk about pole shifts, a few on crust displacement.  But predictable bombardment not so much. And maybe thats the big secret.
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But what if it's a clue that WE have a semi unpredictable extinction cycle, like the Tri-Solarans.


The Great Year is a deep rabbit-hole:
The concept has also inspired modern speculative theories. A 2004 documentary titled The Great Year explores the hypothesis that the rise and fall of ancient civilizations may be linked to the Sun's motion around a hypothetical companion star, a theory proposed by Walter Cruttenden and supported by some interpretations of ancient myths and megalithic structures.
The film suggests that the precession of the equinoxes, which takes about 25,800 years, could be evidence of a larger, binary stellar cycle influencing human history.
This idea is tied to the broader concept of astrological ages, where each age corresponds to a zodiacal sign and lasts roughly 2,150 years, with a full Great Year cycle of about 25,772 years marking the completion of all twelve ages.
Despite the lack of scientific consensus, the Great Year remains a powerful symbol of cyclical time across diverse traditions.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3ZDcj0kF_0


Perhaps every great year we pass through a debris cloud of interstellar objects.  Some great years are worse than others?


This guy (Jesse M podcast link) thinks it may be a CME caused by a dead binary companion star - and that G bekli Tepe may exist to measure it via procession, Derinkuyu was built in anticipation of it, and Mars lost it's atmosphere because of it.


I need to watch that.

I have read many Graham Hancock books and he centers around the idea of a single disaster.  But if it's cyclic, and that's what the real deal is, then no wonder the media went hard on cancelling him, because it's not a huge leap from saying Younger Dryas was a single event to a reoccurring one.

There have been a lot of people talk about pole shifts, a few on crust displacement.  But predictable bombardment not so much. And maybe thats the big secret.



I've often wondered about the megalithic builders, why they went through all the effort to build the way they did.  It's like the whole world knew something really bad was coming and their only chance for survival was to build enormous hard-stone shelters.  Combined with the unbelievably vast underground complexes that we know about and likely others we haven't discovered yet, it paints a fascinating picture.  You want to find the real "Noah's Ark"?  It was apparently built out of granite all over the ancient world.
Everything posted above is factual. Maybe.
9/25/2025 2:02:27 PM EDT
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I've often wondered about the megalithic builders, why they went through all the effort to build the way they did.  It's like the whole world knew something really bad was coming and their only chance for survival was to build enormous hard-stone shelters.  Combined with the unbelievably vast underground complexes that we know about and likely others we haven't discovered yet, it paints a fascinating picture.  You want to find the real "Noah's Ark"?  It was apparently built out of granite all over the ancient world.
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Bunkers. We are building bunkers almost instinctively as a species.  With modern technology I figure most developed nation have a large number of them that could house huge populations.

Maybe it’s the ‘caveman’ part of us. But there is comfort in fortification and extreme preparation.
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9/25/2025 2:03:16 PM EDT
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I probably wont get to see it live. But if anyone is interested.
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9/25/2025 2:30:38 PM EDT
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I've often wondered about the megalithic builders, why they went through all the effort to build the way they did.  It's like the whole world knew something really bad was coming and their only chance for survival was to build enormous hard-stone shelters.  Combined with the unbelievably vast underground complexes that we know about and likely others we haven't discovered yet, it paints a fascinating picture.  You want to find the real "Noah's Ark"?  It was apparently built out of granite all over the ancient world.
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But what if it's a clue that WE have a semi unpredictable extinction cycle, like the Tri-Solarans.


The Great Year is a deep rabbit-hole:
The concept has also inspired modern speculative theories. A 2004 documentary titled The Great Year explores the hypothesis that the rise and fall of ancient civilizations may be linked to the Sun's motion around a hypothetical companion star, a theory proposed by Walter Cruttenden and supported by some interpretations of ancient myths and megalithic structures.
The film suggests that the precession of the equinoxes, which takes about 25,800 years, could be evidence of a larger, binary stellar cycle influencing human history.
This idea is tied to the broader concept of astrological ages, where each age corresponds to a zodiacal sign and lasts roughly 2,150 years, with a full Great Year cycle of about 25,772 years marking the completion of all twelve ages.
Despite the lack of scientific consensus, the Great Year remains a powerful symbol of cyclical time across diverse traditions.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3ZDcj0kF_0


Perhaps every great year we pass through a debris cloud of interstellar objects.  Some great years are worse than others?


This guy (Jesse M podcast link) thinks it may be a CME caused by a dead binary companion star - and that G bekli Tepe may exist to measure it via procession, Derinkuyu was built in anticipation of it, and Mars lost it's atmosphere because of it.


I need to watch that.

I have read many Graham Hancock books and he centers around the idea of a single disaster.  But if it's cyclic, and that's what the real deal is, then no wonder the media went hard on cancelling him, because it's not a huge leap from saying Younger Dryas was a single event to a reoccurring one.

There have been a lot of people talk about pole shifts, a few on crust displacement.  But predictable bombardment not so much. And maybe thats the big secret.



I've often wondered about the megalithic builders, why they went through all the effort to build the way they did.  It's like the whole world knew something really bad was coming and their only chance for survival was to build enormous hard-stone shelters.  Combined with the unbelievably vast underground complexes that we know about and likely others we haven't discovered yet, it paints a fascinating picture.  You want to find the real "Noah's Ark"?  It was apparently built out of granite all over the ancient world.


I'm curious how many more "shelters" there are around the world that are either undiscovered, or privately held and not spoken of.    I'm willing to bet a lot of money that the number of private sites is non zero.

The problem comes down to "where to build", most any place on Earth is in a danger zone of something - earthquakes, glaciers, floods, etc.  There's the Northern rocky mountains in WA to MT where there are sea shells at 10,000 ft found along a foot/wagon trail.  That is a whole lot of churning and rotating to pull the Earth down then back up over who knows how long (This also links to one of my favorite things - out of place/time artifacts or anachronistic artifacts).   I suppose the Pyramids re a pretty solid bet,  along with maybe parts of New Mexico/Arizona away from high earthquake zones and safe from Glaciers, but that has a known medium to medium-rlarge asteroid impact point with a sign for Barringer Crater and everything.

There isn't enough water in the world to flood that high up for sea life to form at 10kft.   Too many people jump to assume it's Global warming and water was that high.   I suppose it is possible if something has taken half of Earth's water, leaving us with the leftovers we have today, but that's unlikely.

This pings my brain again back to Elizondo's question on if you wanted something to be saved a million years, proof against any disaster that might show up, where would that be.   I still don't have an answer to that still, as stray asteroids eliminate most of Earth's lower orbits and any location on Earth which also have their own ticking catastrophes waiting.  I suppose if he's hinting toward saving data in "junk DNA" that would be the answer, but there's more to the "Junk DNA" than previously thought.,  Some say 80% of DNA codes are used, while others are saying only 8.2% of DNA is used and the rest is junk.    I'd think that some super powerful evolution machine would have figured out how to make sure DNA into something like RAID 5 so Cancer and other genetic disorders are cut off before they can get started with anything.  

Back to this comet, it's a really cool time to be alive, hopefully we get more data on other side of sun and it doesn't burn up  or impact Sol.

The person who complains most, and is the most critical of others has the most to hide.

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9/25/2025 2:45:12 PM EDT
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that's one to definitely pay attention to. He's allegedly been making some really wild statements about 3I/Atlas.
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9/26/2025 11:17:11 AM EDT
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The sea-life shells at 10,000 feet are probably sedimentary rock pushed up by plate tectonics during the building of the Rocky Mts.
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9/26/2025 12:42:50 PM EDT
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The sea-life shells at 10,000 feet are probably sedimentary rock pushed up by plate tectonics during the building of the Rocky Mts.
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I fully agree, but there's a huge number of people screaming that they are proof of how bad "global warming" really is.  Critical thinking isn't a strong suit, such as answering "where did that water go?"
The person who complains most, and is the most critical of others has the most to hide.

All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
9/26/2025 1:25:37 PM EDT
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Avi Loeb is on the new Mayim Bialik pod.

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Aliens Incoming?! Harvard Scientist Dr. Avi Loeb reveals the astronomy behind why 3I/Atlas could cancel your Halloween plans…
On October 29th, just two days before Halloween, a mysterious interstellar object 3I/ATLAS is set to make a highly unusual approach to our sun and it’s raising MAJOR red flags! Could this be a disguised alien mothership on a secret surveillance mission to Earth? The trajectory coincidences are so bizarre, they defy all known statistics.
In this explosive episode of Mayim Bialik’s Breakdown, Dr. Avi Loeb (Harvard professor, astrophysicist, and bestselling author of Interstellar: The Search for Extraterrestrial Life and Our Future in the Stars) dives deep with Mayim & Jonathan into what 3I/ATLAS might really be…and how it ties into everything we thought we knew about life beyond Earth.
Dr. Avi Loeb also breaks down:
- Did the U.S. Government recover four types of alien biological entities from UAP crash sites?
- Evidence that human life may have been engineered by another species
- Was Mars home to life before Earth?
- The chilling reason you should NEVER shake an alien’s hand
- Why Loeb says extraterrestrial life is a national security issue
- The new “Loeb Scale” to evaluate interstellar object encounters
- Why the discovery of alien life could be the only thing that unites humanity
- His urgent call for a global organization to defend Earth against threats like aliens, AI, and climate change
- The plan to build a DNA ark using artificial intelligence — a “Noah’s Ark” for Earth’s survival!
- How science and spirituality can coexist, and why believing in aliens shouldn't conflict with faith
- Why the hidden black holes theory doesn’t prove the multiverse
- How we can finally pressure governments to reveal the truth about extraterrestrials
Whether you’re a skeptic, a believer, or just curious about all things alien, this is the video you can’t afford to miss. Tune in to MBB now before October 29th possibly changes everything...
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9/26/2025 6:13:45 PM EDT
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Embedded for ya.  Interesting.

New Photos of 3I/Atlas. Is It Alien Tech?
“The eye sees only what the mind is prepared to comprehend.” - Henri Bergson
9/26/2025 6:19:25 PM EDT
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There is an organization that has been getting academics together to safeguard against existential threats. The Lifeboat Foundation.  I’ve been a part of it for 13 years, written a recent book on AI they distributed, I moderate their facebook.  

https://lifeboat.com/

https://lifeboat.com/pdfs/the.silicon.vow.pdf
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9/26/2025 6:58:32 PM EDT
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Embedded for ya.  Interesting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMU8URlDPWs
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Isn’t that blossom?
9/26/2025 7:10:47 PM EDT
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Yes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayim_Bialik

She has a PhD in Neuroscience from UCLA and an Honorary Doctorate from Boston U.
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9/26/2025 8:03:37 PM EDT
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Embedded for ya.  Interesting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMU8URlDPWs

Isn’t that blossom?


Yep - she’s actually quite a good listen with the right guests.

And thanks @sq40! Wasn’t thinking when I posted it, just did it as a link.
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