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5/5/2016 12:35:18 AM EDT
I feel for you. I hope one day the system will change.  

5/5/2016 12:46:43 AM EDT
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So... you don't feel you should be financially responsible for the babies you make?
5/5/2016 12:48:35 AM EDT
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Where the hell did you get that?
5/5/2016 12:51:37 AM EDT
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They should but also shouldn't get raped to the point the have to live on their mother's couch because they only get 80 of their 500 paycheck.

 



True story about a guy I worked with at one time.
5/5/2016 12:51:54 AM EDT
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Picture is true.  The kid in the cage looks like a storm trooper.
5/5/2016 12:54:07 AM EDT
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I pretty much have my kid half the time and pay over 1K per month.  Is that good enough for you?
5/5/2016 12:54:47 AM EDT
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Yeah.  The answer is that this is the modern debtors prison.  Child support, as the current system, is fundamentally unfair.  Flawed and fucked up
5/5/2016 12:55:15 AM EDT
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In.

I'm a divorced dad who's been winning.
5/5/2016 12:55:24 AM EDT
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You must be invited to parties all the time with such a command of reality and solid takes on divorce.

5/5/2016 1:04:32 AM EDT
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Don't want to pay? Move across state lines, and tell the custodial parent "good luck having that support order enforced" (The State enforcement people will tell you the same thing too!). You'll be a total douche bag, but at least you won't have to pay CS. I'm a dad who got custody and I don't see a thin dime of support, thanks to the aforementioned method.



5/5/2016 1:08:17 AM EDT
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Picture is true.  The kid in the cage looks like a storm trooper.

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Picture is true.  The kid in the cage looks like a storm trooper.





 
And the dad's ass looks like Admiral Ackbar
5/5/2016 2:52:41 AM EDT
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Really? Highly intelligent aren't you?
5/5/2016 3:23:50 AM EDT
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Someone doesn't know the difference between responsibility and slavery.

I see these cases all the time. Dad pays 75% of his check to mom. Dad sees kid every other weekend. Mom holds kid ransom.

Or, a co-worker, hasn't seen his kid in 7 years. She's 8 years old now. He pays $1500 a month in child support. Mom tells kid he's dead. She calls another man Dad. He keeps paying hoping some day the courts will force a custody agreement.
5/5/2016 3:51:59 AM EDT
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There was a point where we celebrated Christmas and Easter with my dad in a Suburban in a Holiday Inn parking lot. It was fun and interesting as a kid but looking back as an adult I realize how unfair the situation was. The way the courts treat fathers is absolutely shameful in most cases.
5/5/2016 3:53:52 AM EDT
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Not even worth an lol.
5/5/2016 3:55:19 AM EDT
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Tell us your story.  I'm a single dad of twin 14yo; they live with me full time, but it's a battle.
5/5/2016 3:56:46 AM EDT
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Yeah that's why I pay 1/4 of my take home to the ex and another 1/4 of my take home in medical/dental for my kid despite having 50% joint custody.

So fuck you.
5/5/2016 3:59:00 AM EDT
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I hope you never have to defend yourself in family court against a white night judge and a vindictive ex..no one in this world can 100% completely destroy a man faster..let alone just getting simple visitation with your own damn children...
5/5/2016 4:34:04 AM EDT
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They should but also shouldn't get raped to the point the have to live on their mother's couch because they only get 80 of their 500 paycheck.  
True story about a guy I worked with at one time.

I worked with a Lt. with a lot of kids who used to get about $80 every two weeks and his salary was around $140k. Family Court judge told him "Get some more jobs if you can't pay your bills".
5/5/2016 4:57:23 AM EDT
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I've got a few divorce threads, my ex gets about half of my check she has bought a new jeep and a new in ground swimming pool in less than 6 months. I also have to split half of medical costs and the cost of activities for the kids. I will do anything for my kids but there has to be a line drawn somewhere.
5/5/2016 5:07:40 AM EDT
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Don't want to pay? Move across state lines, and tell the custodial parent "good luck having that support order enforced" (The State enforcement people will tell you the same thing too!). You'll be a total douche bag, but at least you won't have to pay CS. I'm a dad who got custody and I don't see a thin dime of support, thanks to the aforementioned method.

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That only happens when the payer has a vagina and the entire FOC staff has one also.
5/5/2016 5:12:04 AM EDT
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Family law is a money making machine for Family Law attorneys.



After two divorces in CA with kids involved both times I officially learned what "Divide by zero" feels like.



Then the gheys demanded the right to marry and I laughed my ass off with one single thought...."Be careful what you wish for".




5/5/2016 5:14:44 AM EDT
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Happily divorced father of two happy and healthy young men.  
5/5/2016 5:24:07 AM EDT
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My son is grown now thank God and I no longer am under the oppression of the office of support enforcement. I worked for them for 15 yrs until she released him to come live with me. He turned out great in spite of all the difficulty and we have an awesome relationship. Now I just wish I could have saved a little for my retirement. His mom is set up with her house paid off. I will work till I die.

I am a tradesman and often was laid off during the winter months. At one point they were going to take away my Journeyman license and my drivers license. What kind of fucked up logic is that? I kinda have to be able to work if I'm going to be able to pay support.

Fuck the current system and the evil bitches that control it.

I guess I'm still pissed even after all these years.
5/5/2016 5:24:23 AM EDT
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Don't want to pay? Move across state lines, and tell the custodial parent "good luck having that support order enforced" (The State enforcement people will tell you the same thing too!). You'll be a total douche bag, but at least you won't have to pay CS. I'm a dad who got custody and I don't see a thin dime of support, thanks to the aforementioned method.







That only happens when the payer has a vagina and the entire FOC staff has one also.



There's a special place in hell for family court pretrial "counselors", imo. Got a pack of whopper-grade lies thrown at me, then got told to pipe down by the wonderful staff member when i tried to refute them. And I couldn't have my lawyer in there either. I got what was best for my daughter in the long run, but in the "impartial" eyes of that hag, I was a shitbird the minute I walked through the door.



Ex tried the same schtick with the judge later that day, and he saw through that bullshit and shut her down in about six seconds.



 
5/5/2016 5:27:34 AM EDT
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Not even good bait.
5/5/2016 5:30:24 AM EDT
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They should but also shouldn't get raped to the point the have to live on their mother's couch because they only get 80 of their 500 paycheck.  

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They should but also shouldn't get raped to the point the have to live on their mother's couch because they only get 80 of their 500 paycheck.  

True story about a guy I worked with at one time.

How about getting to keep $375 of a $1,050 paycheck ? True story
5/5/2016 5:32:19 AM EDT
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So... you don't feel you should be financially responsible for the babies you make?
They should but also shouldn't get raped to the point the have to live on their mother's couch because they only get 80 of their 500 paycheck.  

True story about a guy I worked with at one time.

How about getting to keep $375 of a $1,050 paycheck ? True story


More than 50%  I know the feeling
5/5/2016 5:41:10 AM EDT
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Man, my heart bleeds for the families affected by divorce and the system that is fundamentally unable to handle the realities of broken families... but trying to have out the discussion here just makes everyone look like a douche.

Don't speak disrespectfully of your wives, ex or otherwise. Have some self-respect and don't teach young men that this kind of vitriol is OK. The 20 and 30 somethings coming up behind us are broken. They don't have a clue what it means to be a man. Don't help them down a path of anger and bitterness...

Go ahead and make fun. You sons will pay the price.
5/5/2016 5:49:31 AM EDT
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Wait until the precedence is set by divorcing gays!!!

I have no issue at all caring for my children, of course not.  I do feel the money paid should be accountable to the payer and the courts.  

Give 1000 toward the child, cool.  Show where it is spent on the child.  That new BMW, is not going to to the child.  These days it is easy money for the female to get the children and the make money doing nothing.



Not divorced but see it everyday.
5/5/2016 5:50:23 AM EDT
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Man, my heart bleeds for the families affected by divorce and the system that is fundamentally unable to handle the realities of broken families... but trying to have out the discussion here just makes everyone look like a douche.



Don't speak disrespectfully of your wives, ex or otherwise. Have some self-respect and don't teach young men that this kind of vitriol is OK. The 20 and 30 somethings coming up behind us are broken. They don't have a clue what it means to be a man. Don't help them down a path of anger and bitterness...



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But the thieving twat can lie, mentally and emotionally abuse the kids all she wants and that's just fine. Isin't it.....



 
5/5/2016 5:51:17 AM EDT
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Yeah that's why I pay 1/4 of my take home to the ex and another 1/4 of my take home in medical/dental for my kid despite having 50% joint custody.

So fuck you.
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Yeah that's why I pay 1/4 of my take home to the ex and another 1/4 of my take home in medical/dental for my kid despite having 50% joint custody.

So fuck you.



This... Fuck the AG's office and the Ex, my baby graduates in June. Not sure what to do with the extra monies guess I'll just start sending it to her (lol) not. if anything I'll just buy more gold and silver. she can have that when I'm gone.
5/5/2016 5:51:27 AM EDT
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But the thieving twat can lie, mentally and emotionally abuse the kids all she wants and that's just fine. Isin't it.....
 
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Man, my heart bleeds for the families affected by divorce and the system that is fundamentally unable to handle the realities of broken families... but trying to have out the discussion here just makes everyone look like a douche.

Don't speak disrespectfully of your wives, ex or otherwise. Have some self-respect and don't teach young men that this kind of vitriol is OK. The 20 and 30 somethings coming up behind us are broken. They don't have a clue what it means to be a man. Don't help them down a path of anger and bitterness...

Go ahead and make fun. You sons will pay the price.
But the thieving twat can lie, mentally and emotionally abuse the kids all she wants and that's just fine. Isin't it.....
 


Covering one wrong with another always works out great for everyone... Good luck.
5/5/2016 5:53:17 AM EDT
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WTF where did you get that? Would love to call you an idiot but it would prolly cost me a COC violation.
5/5/2016 5:54:07 AM EDT
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I get my child 49.5% of the time (no really) and yet I pay 18% with deviation of 2% from guidelines due to extra curriculars that go over guidelines, and insurance. So why should I be responsible for everything and some while mother uses unemployment, child support and gov benefits? Then threatens if I ever try to ask her to take responsibility more because it drains me she will file false allegations of abuse and have her taken away, that I should be thankful for the extra time that she allows me to have?

5/5/2016 6:02:18 AM EDT
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Every time the thought of marriage crosses my mind, I think about one of these threads or guys that I've known who've gone through a divorce.  





5/5/2016 6:08:17 AM EDT
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Man, my heart bleeds for the families affected by divorce and the system that is fundamentally unable to handle the realities of broken families... but trying to have out the discussion here just makes everyone look like a douche.

Don't speak disrespectfully of your wives, ex or otherwise. Have some self-respect and don't teach young men that this kind of vitriol is OK. The 20 and 30 somethings coming up behind us are broken. They don't have a clue what it means to be a man. Don't help them down a path of anger and bitterness...

Go ahead and make fun. You sons will pay the price.
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Nothing wrong with being angry about injustice and calling it what it really is. [ govt mandated indentured servitude]

PS, my ex was a psychotic bitch who stole drugs from the Dr's office she worked at and was truly nuts, I got full custody at 12, he's 27 now, just finished up his masters classes related to chem [just thesis now] she has seen him twice in 15 years. Don't tell me how I should feel about the ''system'' because it's totally f-ed up.
5/5/2016 6:10:27 AM EDT
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FP fucked up the FPNI mojo. Good job, FP.
5/5/2016 6:20:03 AM EDT
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5/5/2016 6:22:05 AM EDT
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Man, my heart bleeds for the families affected by divorce and the system that is fundamentally unable to handle the realities of broken families... but trying to have out the discussion here just makes everyone look like a douche.

Don't speak disrespectfully of your wives, ex or otherwise. Have some self-respect and don't teach young men that this kind of vitriol is OK. The 20 and 30 somethings coming up behind us are broken. They don't have a clue what it means to be a man. Don't help them down a path of anger and bitterness...

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Do you speak disrespectful about socialist parasites?  If you do, you dont have a leg to stand on. Except socialists dont use kids as bargaining chips or hold them as ransom.
5/5/2016 6:23:35 AM EDT
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No. Not one single dime.

I don't pay one single dime on any of my 17 children from 17 different mothers.

In court I argued that if the women knew they were fertile and didn't give head it was on them. The judge agreed.



Next time open your wallet and let the moths fly out and part with a little cash and buy yourself a better brand of bait.

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5/5/2016 6:24:27 AM EDT
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Don't want to pay? Move across state lines, and tell the custodial parent "good luck having that support order enforced" (The State enforcement people will tell you the same thing too!). You'll be a total douche bag, but at least you won't have to pay CS. I'm a dad who got custody and I don't see a thin dime of support, thanks to the aforementioned method.

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Bullshit.  CS enforcement is nationalized these days----at least for fathers because men are the enemies of the state not women.

If you have a SS#  you got problems.
5/5/2016 6:24:40 AM EDT
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No shit.
5/5/2016 6:27:04 AM EDT
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5/5/2016 6:32:29 AM EDT
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I am definitely the exception.  Only reason I got custody is because the x was a drug addict and didn't show for any of the court custody hearings.

She has not paid child support since November  2011 but they have not done anything to her cause she is a woman, in my mind. Sure I have not perused it with the enforcement people but I bet a woman wouldn't have to.
5/5/2016 6:43:03 AM EDT
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This year in NY they added a new form that has to be served with every divorce stating that people ( i.e. Wives) are entitled to spousal support and both parties have to state under oath they know that before the divorce is final. Apparently too many men are escaping the courts' clutches without paying spousal support in top of child support
5/5/2016 6:46:42 AM EDT
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So what you're saying is dont get divorced in NY? Or live in NY? just burn NY to the ground?
5/5/2016 6:48:03 AM EDT
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And crap like this is why I will NEVER consider marrying again. Modern day slavery, whouda thunk it?


5/5/2016 6:51:52 AM EDT
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And crap like this is why I will NEVER consider marrying again. Modern day slavery, whouda thunk it?


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And crap like this is why I will NEVER consider marrying again. Modern day slavery, whouda thunk it?




Meh don't choose poorly and you will be fine.
5/5/2016 6:53:11 AM EDT
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Thanks for making my point for me.
5/5/2016 6:56:07 AM EDT
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What are the suicide stats for divorced Dads in the US?



As high as they are here I presume.
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