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Posted: 10/1/2021 10:59:05 PM EST
[#1]
 ReMastered: Devil at the Crossroads | Official Trailer [HD] | Netflix |
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Posted: 10/1/2021 10:59:24 PM EST
[#2]
Nope
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Posted: 10/1/2021 11:05:46 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’ve been to that crossroads. I say yes. I’ve been to a lot of crossroads in that part of the Delta. IF it did happen, I don’t think anybody alive would know which crossroad is the right one. Heard a few theories but that’s all they are. |
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Posted: 10/1/2021 11:06:00 PM EST
[#4]
Big influence on Jimi...
 Jimi Hendrix On An Acoustic Guitar (only known 2 videos RARE) |
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Posted: 10/1/2021 11:08:01 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’ve been to a lot of crossroads in that part of the Delta. IF it did happen, I don’t think anybody alive would know which crossroad is the right one. Heard a few theories but that’s all they are. I heard it was bulldozed and paved over to build a mini mall. |
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Posted: 10/1/2021 11:10:20 PM EST
[#6]
BMW Films with Clive Owen and James Brown from the late 90's.
 BMW Films "Beat the Devil" |
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Posted: 10/1/2021 11:33:37 PM EST
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The "crossroads" is a metaphor for giving up any hope of anything else, he came to a crossroads in life and made the choice to go all in, he crossed the rubicon and his reward was immortality. QFT |
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Posted: 10/1/2021 11:51:38 PM EST
[#8]
Has he flashed the OK sign? That means 666 to the satanists. One eye or covered eye? That's the all seeing command. How about the hidden hand (think Napoleon)?
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Posted: 10/2/2021 12:09:00 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I get that the recording is old, but when does it get good or "worth it"?  It depends on what you are expecting. This is literally the proto blues recording. I have the boxed set of Robert Johnson recordings, and most sound similar. But it’s amazing. But it’s raw, un-varnished or over produced blues from the Depression era. And it’s indisputably a picture of that community from that time frame. If you’re a music fan, and not just a listener, it may have value. If you listen, you’ll hear the basic blues under-pinnings and understand the beginnings of blues, which means rock and roll. Historically, it has great value. The early days of recorded music, pre-LP. So it has significance there too. Is it going to rock on the radio today? No way. But it’s great music in my opinion. |
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Posted: 10/2/2021 12:11:53 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: makes the story that much more badass I completely devoured the pamphlet that came with the complete recordings when I got them, around thirty years ago , but i had forgotten that fact If I remember correctly he had just been booked for Carnegie Hall when he was poisoned there is a decent documentary Devil at the Crossroads on netflix that explores the possibility of a transaction You and I could be friends. |
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Posted: 10/2/2021 12:14:42 AM EST
[#11]
Having never heard of Mr. Johnson or his instrumental prowess, I would hope not.
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Posted: 10/2/2021 12:15:40 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was listening the other day to the B.B. King station and they were doing old talk show interviews with him and someone called in and asked B.B. if he believed it. B.B. gave a long-winded answer that basically said "nope!'" B. B isn't even my favorite King. |
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Posted: 10/2/2021 12:15:48 AM EST
[#13]
He should get a refund.
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Posted: 10/2/2021 12:15:56 AM EST
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I was listening to an XM radio broadcast with Eric Clapton and they introduced Clapton’s version of Crossroads. I didn’t catch who was talking to who; but they were discussing how amazingly talented Johnson was and speculating how long you’d have to play the guitar all day every day. Then they mentioned for the live performances Clapton would usually have two, sometimes one, other guitar player to back him up on Crossroads. So, you’re talking 2-3 professional musicians, one of whom is Eric Clapton, to do what Johnson did by himself. I saw Clapton for the Journeyman tour. He’s amazing. Would love to see him again. |
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Posted: 10/2/2021 12:17:22 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He should get a refund. He laid the foundation for a lot of great music |
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Posted: 10/2/2021 12:20:47 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’ve been to a lot of crossroads in that part of the Delta. IF it did happen, I don’t think anybody alive would know which crossroad is the right one. Heard a few theories but that’s all they are. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I’ve been to that crossroads. I say yes. I’ve been to a lot of crossroads in that part of the Delta. IF it did happen, I don’t think anybody alive would know which crossroad is the right one. Heard a few theories but that’s all they are. Makes for good stories for sure, multiple graves, the devil, jealous husband, poisoned shine, tons of mystery to it all. Another Arfcomer and I were building furniture a few years ago from old timber logged and milled on the family farm at the turn of the century. In dining research on the mill we found out that the jealous husband that supposedly poisoned him worked at the mill; that’s what the book said anyway. Unfortunately “murder blues tables” didn’t seem to catchy for a company name. |
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Posted: 10/2/2021 12:21:18 AM EST
[#17]
Lucifer ain't never even made me an offer on my soul. Maybe he ain't in that business no more.
I bet if he got the shop back open he'd do it like those "car extended warranty" or real estate solicitation calls. Hit up your cell phone, "Hello, we're calling with on offer for your immortal soul..." |
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Posted: 10/2/2021 12:33:38 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The hype was that he was pretty much a no talent musician...left the area for a little while...came back and was suddenly a genius... "Learn or Starve" is a powerful motivator. |
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Posted: 10/2/2021 12:39:31 AM EST
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Watch Crossroads. lol some MF's in this thread don't know it was a documentary |
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Posted: 10/2/2021 12:42:42 AM EST
[#20]
No. But I sold mine and lost everything
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Posted: 10/2/2021 1:43:15 AM EST
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Absolutely, yes. To understand the fundamental principles of "selling your soul to Satan in exchange for (talent, fame, fortune, power, etc.)" is to understand the foundation of how this world operates. Once you understand that, it begins to make sense to you how those in power seem to cooperate in doing the devil's work. You cannot understand the big picture of what is happening in the world without knowing the spiritual battles being waged. Jesus is Lord. Let him into your heart NOW. Accept him, by faith alone, as your savior and your eyes will be opened, and your mind filled with knowledge, understanding and wisdom. Nothing like taking any opportunity to proseltize, eh? I expect anyone who believes differently is destined for an eternity burning in the fires of hell. |
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Posted: 10/2/2021 1:50:10 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nothing like taking any opportunity to proseltize, eh? I expect anyone who believes differently is destined for an eternity burning in the fires of hell. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Absolutely, yes. To understand the fundamental principles of "selling your soul to Satan in exchange for (talent, fame, fortune, power, etc.)" is to understand the foundation of how this world operates. Once you understand that, it begins to make sense to you how those in power seem to cooperate in doing the devil's work. You cannot understand the big picture of what is happening in the world without knowing the spiritual battles being waged. Jesus is Lord. Let him into your heart NOW. Accept him, by faith alone, as your savior and your eyes will be opened, and your mind filled with knowledge, understanding and wisdom. Nothing like taking any opportunity to proseltize, eh? I expect anyone who believes differently is destined for an eternity burning in the fires of hell. Sorry, that was fucking snarky & unnecessary. |
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Posted: 10/2/2021 2:03:14 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He is the single most influential guitar player that ever lived. His style and techniques are present in very nearly all guitar music. Meh. Paco DeLucia, Andres Segovia, Sabicas, Tarrega, Sor, Giuliani, and many others would disagree, were any of them still alive. |
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Posted: 10/2/2021 2:16:04 AM EST
[#24]
No, I doubt it. Good story and basis of a song, but satan can’t give you talent. He can give you riches and power, open up doors, anything that is within his dominion. I say he worked hard and crafted a unique sound. There were guys like Blind Blake who came before him who were arguably better guitarists. RJ just had a haunting and rhythmic style with a masterful use of the slide.
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Posted: 10/2/2021 2:18:21 AM EST
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Sorry, that was fucking snarky & unnecessary. It is completed needed. |
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Posted: 10/2/2021 3:13:23 AM EST
[#26]
If selling your soul to the devil really bought everyone everything they wanted 100%, I think the vast majorities of humans would have done so. Doesn’t seem like that’s the case.
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Posted: 10/2/2021 3:21:10 AM EST
[#27]
He sure did.
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Posted: 10/2/2021 3:29:17 AM EST
[#28]
no, you can't sell your soul. You can however do actions which may affect you and thus your "soul".
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Posted: 10/2/2021 3:48:21 AM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If selling your soul to the devil really bought everyone everything they wanted 100%, I think the vast majorities of humans would have done so. Doesn’t seem like that’s the case. Matthew 7:13-14 King James Version 13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. |
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Posted: 10/2/2021 7:16:26 AM EST
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No, but Kevin Bacon did. Dude doesn’t age like a normal human. Have you seen his new show chapelwaite, he looks pretty old in that. Really good TV series though. |
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Posted: 10/2/2021 7:22:20 AM EST
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So what did the Dems become the greatest at in return for selling their everlasting souls to the Prince of Darkness? Their goal is power and control. |
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Posted: 10/2/2021 7:25:55 AM EST
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: lol some MF's in this thread don't know it was a documentary Hell...I don't even know who Robert Johnson is... |
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Posted: 10/2/2021 7:37:02 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://i0.wp.com/wp-cpr.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/2018/08/chris_thomas_king__blind_miss_ct_king.jpg?fit=300%2C225&ssl=1 "Ulysses Everett McGill: What'd the devil give you for your soul, Tommy? Tommy Johnson: Well, he taught me to play this here guitar real good. Delmar O'Donnell: Oh son, for that you sold your everlasting soul? Tommy Johnson: Well, I wasn't usin' it." One of the best movies ever. |
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Posted: 10/2/2021 8:36:13 AM EST
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If selling your soul to the devil really bought everyone everything they wanted 100%, I think the vast majorities of humans would have done so. Doesn’t seem like that’s the case. To be fair, from the devil’s perspective, why would you pay for something you are going to get for free about five minutes (relative to eternity anyway) later when they die? |
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Posted: 10/2/2021 8:36:25 AM EST
[#35]
This is a good movie with even better music...
Cult classic starring Ralph Macchio as a want-to-be blues guitar virtuoso who seeks a long-lost song by legendary musician Robert Johnson. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0090888/mediaviewer/rm4064241408/ |
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Posted: 10/2/2021 8:36:36 AM EST
[#36]
needs more poll for the lols
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Posted: 10/2/2021 8:41:48 AM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: lol some MF's in this thread don't know it was a documentary Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Watch Crossroads. lol some MF's in this thread don't know it was a documentary Actually, I was referring to the 1988 movie that starred Ralph Machio. It touches on the Robert Johnson lore of selling his soul to devil. Walter Hill directed the movie. |
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Posted: 10/2/2021 8:42:52 AM EST
[#38]
lol no.
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Posted: 10/2/2021 8:44:41 AM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What they got is power... See, your soul is the collection of information that makes you into you. It's not just knowledge and memories, it's also the patterns of though, your morals, and what you see as right and wrong. "The Devil" is all of those wrongheaded thoughts out there in the universe. The idea that it is okay to lie and cheat to get what you want. The idea that it is okay to screw your brain up on chemicals to feel better for a while, the idea... well, all of those ideas that are considered sinful. You sell your soul to the devil when you give into those temptations to gain what you want. But in giving in you make that evil part of yourself. Of course people intentionally do sinful things all the time but the difference is are you truly repentant and making efforts not to let the past sin become a pattern. But if you instead embrace the sin and justify it, then it does become part of you and you may reap earthly rewards but your soul suffers. And that is what has happened to a great many of our politicians today, both Democrat and, sadly, Republican. Great explanation. |
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Posted: 10/2/2021 9:18:09 AM EST
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Posted: 10/2/2021 9:30:32 AM EST
[#41]
If he did he got short changed
He was mediocre at best |
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Posted: 10/2/2021 9:59:29 AM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If he did he got short changed He was mediocre at best REPORTED for hate speech. |
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Posted: 10/2/2021 10:51:23 AM EST
[#43]
It is amazing how fast he went from just another guitarist, to creating powerful, almost mythical music.
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Posted: 10/2/2021 11:22:50 AM EST
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Well, since "the devil" is an invention of man just as much as his asserted nemesis is and neither of which actually exist but are merely stories by any objective analysis of available historical and experimental evidence, I'm going to venture a guess to say no.
This reminds me of a Weekly World News headline from the 1980's that I saw while buying a roll of caps for my cap gun when I was a kid... it was "Your soul weighs 0.0000020833 lbs." or something very like that (about 9/10ths of a milligram) and was based on some claimed weighing of people just before and after they died by unnamed East German noetics (bullshit pseudo science made up by delusional people) "researchers". Since that amount of air represents something like .7 cubic centimeters at sea level pressure, it's massively outclassed by the change in body weight from the exhalation of one's last breath. Even air currents in the room where the weighing is being done could perturb the measurement. The super funny part is the equipment reportedly used to do the weighing had a reported precision of .00001 ounces which comes out to 0.00000013020625 lbs. So the precision of the device doing the measuring was a full order of magnitude more coarse than the measurement that was theoretically made so, the whole thing was doubly meaningless. |
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Posted: 10/2/2021 11:26:02 AM EST
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Absolutely, yes. To understand the fundamental principles of "selling your soul to Satan in exchange for (talent, fame, fortune, power, etc.)" is to understand the foundation of how this world operates. Once you understand that, it begins to make sense to you how those in power seem to cooperate in doing the devil's work. You cannot understand the big picture of what is happening in the world without knowing the spiritual battles being waged. Jesus is Lord. Let him into your heart NOW. Accept him, by faith alone, as your savior and your eyes will be opened, and your mind filled with knowledge, understanding and wisdom. |
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Posted: 10/2/2021 11:38:04 AM EST
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No. He was a womanaizer and drug user. The devil aready had him.
Some say he had what is called Marfan syndrome which contributed to his unique guitar playing skills.  And if you want a pretty cool 80s movie on the subject, check out Crossraods. Ralph Macchio and Jermi Gertz are in it if you can believe that.  Crossroads (1986) Trailer |
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Posted: 10/2/2021 11:39:10 AM EST
[#47]
No.
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Posted: 10/2/2021 12:14:15 PM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No. He was a womanaizer and drug user. The devil aready had him. Some say he had what is called Marfan syndrome which contributed to his unique guitar playing skills. https://i.ytimg.com/vi/PkWm5yUfjJQ/maxresdefault.jpg And if you want a pretty cool 80s movie on the subject, check out Crossraods. Ralph Macchio and Jermi Gertz are in it if you can believe that.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJNl7If64XgPeople think Buckethead has Marfan's syndrome as well |
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Posted: 10/2/2021 12:24:16 PM EST
[#49]
You can’t sell what isn’t yours.
No. |
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Posted: 10/2/2021 12:29:14 PM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I was listening to an XM radio broadcast with Eric Clapton and they introduced Clapton's version of Crossroads. I didn't catch who was talking to who; but they were discussing how amazingly talented Johnson was and speculating how long you'd have to play the guitar all day every day. Then they mentioned for the live performances Clapton would usually have two, sometimes one, other guitar player to back him up on Crossroads. So, you're talking 2-3 professional musicians, one of whom is Eric Clapton, to do what Johnson did by himself. I'd be really interested for the source on that. Did Clapton himself say that? I've been a big Clapton fan since the early 1980s, read quite a bit, and have seen him live 6 times. I have NEVER read or heard that there were backup players when he was with Cream. If you listen to the live stuff like on Wheels of Fire, Live Cream Vols. I and II, or Goodbye, that's one guy playing guitar. |
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