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Posted: 9/22/2020 12:16:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What is the release like on the duty holsters. Kind of difficult to make out on videos/ pictures. I am used to the ones like this and they work very well for me. I just naturally find it. https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41tRi0nG1IL._AC_SX425_.jpg I have both and prefer the ALS mechanism. It holds the gun in place better it seems and is easier for me to activate as well. |
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Posted: 9/22/2020 12:29:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In a weird way I kinda love that about this site.  How does this work? Kinda like this. You're a faggot. You're doing it wrong. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'm holding a phone in one hand, trying to demonstrate how it works, while tossing a belt setup on a bed to make a quick gif give me a break I think it was pretty obvious that you were just filming the video off-body and over emphasizing the removal to show the release. Most people caught it, but apparently not all. In a weird way I kinda love that about this site. How does this work? Kinda like this. You're a faggot. You're doing it wrong. 
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Posted: 9/22/2020 12:32:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have both styles of safariland retention holsters, and both work well for me. The style you have locks onto the trigger guard, and the thumb release style locks onto the slide. If you are not running a light, either one works. With a light, the thumb release style is the one to use. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What is the release like on the duty holsters. Kind of difficult to make out on videos/ pictures. I am used to the ones like this and they work very well for me. I just naturally find it. https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41tRi0nG1IL._AC_SX425_.jpg I have both styles of safariland retention holsters, and both work well for me. The style you have locks onto the trigger guard, and the thumb release style locks onto the slide. If you are not running a light, either one works. With a light, the thumb release style is the one to use. I’ll probably keep the pro fit and get two with the als w/light. I tried the bianchi paddle lock (?) years ago and it just didn’t work for my hand/ grip/ draw. So a little leery about trying new things when they cost as much as they do but still want retention. Also making sure what I order and want are the same and not get the wrong model. I have bad luck that way. |
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Posted: 9/22/2020 12:34:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: For what pistol? My ALS holsters lock into the ejection port cutout in the slide, and the SLS ones have a strap over the back that rotates down and out of the way. They make holsters with both too Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I have both styles of safariland retention holsters, and both work well for me. The style you have locks onto the trigger guard, and the thumb release style locks onto the slide. If you are not running a light, either one works. With a light, the thumb release style is the one to use. For what pistol? My ALS holsters lock into the ejection port cutout in the slide, and the SLS ones have a strap over the back that rotates down and out of the way. They make holsters with both too The pro fit (mass produced multi model) locks on the trigger guard. |
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Posted: 9/22/2020 12:36:24 PM EDT
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can we just go back to calling them 'pistol belts' like god intended? the whole battle belt/war belt thing just reeks of tactical mall ninja marketing
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Posted: 9/22/2020 12:37:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have both and prefer the ALS mechanism. It holds the gun in place better it seems and is easier for me to activate as well. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What is the release like on the duty holsters. Kind of difficult to make out on videos/ pictures. I am used to the ones like this and they work very well for me. I just naturally find it. https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41tRi0nG1IL._AC_SX425_.jpg I have both and prefer the ALS mechanism. It holds the gun in place better it seems and is easier for me to activate as well. Odd that locking on the ejection port is more secure than the trigger guard. |
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Posted: 9/22/2020 12:38:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: can we just go back to calling them 'pistol belts' like god intended? the whole battle belt/war belt thing just reeks of tactical mall ninja marketing No, faggot 
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Posted: 9/22/2020 12:39:47 PM EDT
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I have several pistol belts
I have one battle belt My battle belt is supported by a pistol belt |
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Posted: 9/22/2020 12:44:30 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/22/2020 12:45:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm holding a phone in one hand, trying to demonstrate how it works, while tossing a belt setup on a bed to make a quick gif give me a break Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: What is the release like on the duty holsters. Kind of difficult to make out on videos/ pictures. I am used to the ones like this and they work very well for me. I just naturally find it. https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41tRi0nG1IL._AC_SX425_.jpg Retention: https://thumbs.gfycat.com/ScaredWellinformedEyelashpitviper-size_restricted.gif To draw: https://thumbs.gfycat.com/FoolhardyAncientAsianlion-size_restricted.gif Shitty grip I'm holding a phone in one hand, trying to demonstrate how it works, while tossing a belt setup on a bed to make a quick gif give me a break Sucks when we're reduced to needing an emoji to express good natured ribbing |
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Posted: 9/22/2020 12:54:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: can we just go back to calling them 'pistol belts' like god intended? the whole battle belt/war belt thing just reeks of tactical mall ninja marketing I think of a pistol belt as leather for CCW |
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Posted: 9/22/2020 12:54:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No, faggot Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: can we just go back to calling them 'pistol belts' like god intended? the whole battle belt/war belt thing just reeks of tactical mall ninja marketing No, faggot  You have been Weighed |
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Posted: 9/22/2020 1:37:10 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: can we just go back to calling them 'pistol belts' like god intended? the whole battle belt/war belt thing just reeks of tactical mall ninja marketing I have a Hank's Belts belt that I use as a pistol belt. Just the necessities (pistol, mags, light)...that's what a pistol belt is to me. Battle belts are different. More rigid, more shit on them, and significantly more expensive. You don't go into battle with only a pistol and two mag, and the battle belt lets you add rifle mags, TQ, IFAK, dump pouches, etc with quick access and fairly comfortable. |
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Posted: 9/22/2020 3:34:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Depends. I have a long torso. If I have my PC properly adjusted the bottom of the carrier is above my belly button. I can wear my belt and PC together and have full access to everything on the belt. I'm in this same category. With XL plates, if my PC is as high as it is supposed to be, mine still stops well above my belly button. Plus I wear a belt with gear on it daily anyhow so it just feels natural to me. Should have added, I have a belt as the quick, bump in the night scenario. My PC typically stays in the work vehicle in the trunk. |
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Posted: 9/22/2020 3:35:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Odd that locking on the ejection port is more secure than the trigger guard. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: What is the release like on the duty holsters. Kind of difficult to make out on videos/ pictures. I am used to the ones like this and they work very well for me. I just naturally find it. https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41tRi0nG1IL._AC_SX425_.jpg I have both and prefer the ALS mechanism. It holds the gun in place better it seems and is easier for me to activate as well. Odd that locking on the ejection port is more secure than the trigger guard. It is, however, the G34 jiggles around a lot more in the trigger guard retention model than the ALS model. I've adjust the trigger guard model as much as possible. |
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Posted: 9/22/2020 4:14:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It is, however, the G34 jiggles around a lot more in the trigger guard retention model than the ALS model. I've adjust the trigger guard model as much as possible. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: What is the release like on the duty holsters. Kind of difficult to make out on videos/ pictures. I am used to the ones like this and they work very well for me. I just naturally find it. https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41tRi0nG1IL._AC_SX425_.jpg I have both and prefer the ALS mechanism. It holds the gun in place better it seems and is easier for me to activate as well. Odd that locking on the ejection port is more secure than the trigger guard. It is, however, the G34 jiggles around a lot more in the trigger guard retention model than the ALS model. I've adjust the trigger guard model as much as possible. I think they jiggle more because they are not model specific like the acs. |
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Posted: 9/22/2020 4:16:44 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: @ryanesstac Any chance we'll ever see Kryptek options? 
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Posted: 9/22/2020 4:19:05 PM EDT
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Great for bedside bump in the night type stuff. Also nice for at the range. HSGI laser cut slim is what I went with.
ETA: 
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Posted: 9/22/2020 4:20:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How do you guys keep your kit so clean? Is there something you do? Mine looks like shit with old mud, blood and sweat even when I try and wipe everything down. I keep mine in a dry, cool environment and covered in a protective wrap. Occasionally, wearing white gloves, I'll take it out for an Instagram sesh...then right back into the bat cave. |
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Posted: 9/22/2020 4:20:46 PM EDT
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Nope. I have a pants belt that I mount my ALS and spare mag carriers to.
I've worn duty belts and hated them. I like my lo-pro PC and the minimal gear I have... Plus, AK mags are kinda clunky on a belt. |
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Posted: 9/22/2020 4:32:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I keep mine in a dry, cool environment and covered in a protective wrap. Occasionally, wearing white gloves, I'll take it out for an Instagram sesh...then right back into the bat cave. Seems pretty reckless. I keep mine in a nitrogen-filled chamber. |
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Posted: 9/22/2020 5:00:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have a Hank's Belts belt that I use as a pistol belt. Just the necessities (pistol, mags, light)...that's what a pistol belt is to me. Battle belts are different. More rigid, more shit on them, and significantly more expensive. You don't go into battle with only a pistol and two mag, and the battle belt lets you add rifle mags, TQ, IFAK, dump pouches, etc with quick access and fairly comfortable. pistol belts  pistol belts with heavy shit on them  |
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Posted: 9/22/2020 5:23:01 PM EDT
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You'll want one of these to go full cool guy ;)
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Posted: 9/22/2020 5:26:57 PM EDT
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So far I've got a Esstac dual pistol mag pouch with 1.75" loops, a Safariland 7377 (1.5" loop, can be knocked out to 1.75"), a flashlight pouch and Maxpedition dump pouch I want to try (not married to them, maybe save for hiking) but no belt yet. No rifle mags, maybe a cartridge holder for a lever action rifle someday.
I was just going to get a traditional style gun belt until I noticed these minimal, slotted belts. Looks like the actual belt holds everything and this gives some padding and support to your waist. Anyone have one? How do I size it? https://www.highspeedgear.com/hsgi/33DG0-33DG0.html |
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Posted: 9/22/2020 6:21:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: pistol belts http://inrd.gotdns.com/alice/putittogether1.jpg pistol belts with heavy shit on them https://archive.defense.gov/dodcmsshare/photoessay/2010-08/hires_DF-ST-91-06514.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I have a Hank's Belts belt that I use as a pistol belt. Just the necessities (pistol, mags, light)...that's what a pistol belt is to me. Battle belts are different. More rigid, more shit on them, and significantly more expensive. You don't go into battle with only a pistol and two mag, and the battle belt lets you add rifle mags, TQ, IFAK, dump pouches, etc with quick access and fairly comfortable. pistol belts http://inrd.gotdns.com/alice/putittogether1.jpg pistol belts with heavy shit on them https://archive.defense.gov/dodcmsshare/photoessay/2010-08/hires_DF-ST-91-06514.jpg There’s a reason we’ve moved on in the past 30 years. |
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Posted: 9/22/2020 6:33:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sucks when we're reduced to needing an emoji to express good natured ribbing ...So thats your bullshit excuse? WTF man. . . .
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Posted: 9/22/2020 9:15:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryMy apologies if this has been answered already (I've only read the first page so far), but which belt is that? That looks like exactly what I want. I'm ok with a bit taller belt if it means pouches and holster won't flop around. Thanks in advance. |
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Posted: 9/23/2020 12:27:14 PM EDT
[#28]
New possible issue/ minor worry.
Esstac belt only goes to 48.3” or so waist. Mine is 47” and I’m not exactly fat. I would like a bit more wiggle room without going over $100/ shipped. Any second opinions? In before run fatty, just lose weight... |
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Posted: 9/23/2020 12:29:44 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: New possible issue/ minor worry. Esstac belt only goes to 48.3” or so waist. Mine is 47” and I’m not exactly fat. I would like a bit more wiggle room without going over $100/ shipped. Any second opinions? In before run fatty, just lose weight... Esstac all the things |
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Posted: 9/23/2020 1:24:23 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks Just wondering about issues with carrier if both needed. What may be some aspects of esstac gap vs no gap Do some wear the inner belt for an edc belt? Something I’ll probably have to figure is where pistol rides (height wise) Depends on the base plate of your mags. Regular Glock mags work with no gap. Sig P229 mags need the gap. I have a G27 that I use G23 mags in, they have a spacer at the bottom to match the grip, they need gap pouches. |
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Posted: 9/23/2020 1:28:02 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Did you buy the Chinese mag pouch knockoff? 
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Posted: 9/23/2020 1:31:46 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Esstac all the things. Here's the difference in height between their pistol mags and their SMG mag Kywis https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/425212/20200830_141337_copy_6936x5202-1581490.jpg Also shows the difference between gap and no gap. 
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Posted: 9/23/2020 1:37:03 PM EDT
[#33]
Battlebelts look cool as shit, but I see a lot of guys training with them that don't really train without them. What exactly are you training for?
My training set up is pretty close to my conceal carry setup. It's not hard to learn to grab extra shit, but I think you're at a disadvantage if you don't train with the minimum. That being said, the real reason I don't have a battle belt is because of money, lol. |
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Posted: 9/23/2020 1:40:06 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: In a weird way I kinda love that about this site. How does this work? Kinda like this. You're a faggot. You're doing it wrong. LOL Every post you make all I can think of is you giggling like a little girl (from the fist NV experience.)  |
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Posted: 9/23/2020 2:42:39 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Battlebelts look cool as shit, but I see a lot of guys training with them that don't really train without them. What exactly are you training for? My training set up is pretty close to my conceal carry setup. It's not hard to learn to grab extra shit, but I think you're at a disadvantage if you don't train with the minimum. That being said, the real reason I don't have a battle belt is because of money, lol. Competition |
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Posted: 9/23/2020 2:43:21 PM EDT
[#36]
So this obviously the wrong belt (Hank's jean belt) and I need a real one. But here's my Safariland, Esstac dual mag, and a flashlight holder I really like with a TN12 in it.
Why is the rear loop of my holster so tight on the belt? It's dragging against the belt as I run it through and an actual gun belt is going to be worse. https://smile.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07VWSLT1V?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title  Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 9/23/2020 2:43:31 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: LOL Every post you make all I can think of is you giggling like a little girl (from the fist NV experience.) Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: In a weird way I kinda love that about this site. How does this work? Kinda like this. You're a faggot. You're doing it wrong. LOL Every post you make all I can think of is you giggling like a little girl (from the fist NV experience.) Not too far from the truth. I am generally in a pretty good mood and awesome things are awesome |
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Posted: 9/23/2020 3:19:54 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryLOL at that companies shipping disclaimer. Given the amount of dead felons submitting mail in votes for the Harris/Biden Ticket, USPS is experiencing a few more delays than usual. We recommend selecting FedEx 2nd Day Air if you are concerned about the speed of your package!!!!! |
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Posted: 9/23/2020 3:33:23 PM EDT
[#39]
Very convenient
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Posted: 9/23/2020 3:56:29 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Esstac all the things Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: New possible issue/ minor worry. Esstac belt only goes to 48.3” or so waist. Mine is 47” and I’m not exactly fat. I would like a bit more wiggle room without going over $100/ shipped. Any second opinions? In before run fatty, just lose weight... Esstac all the things Is that your “LOL”? Just a tiny bit worried about growth with holidays coming up 
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Posted: 9/23/2020 3:57:36 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Depends on the base plate of your mags. Regular Glock mags work with no gap. Sig P229 mags need the gap. I have a G27 that I use G23 mags in, they have a spacer at the bottom to match the grip, they need gap pouches. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Thanks Just wondering about issues with carrier if both needed. What may be some aspects of esstac gap vs no gap Do some wear the inner belt for an edc belt? Something I’ll probably have to figure is where pistol rides (height wise) Depends on the base plate of your mags. Regular Glock mags work with no gap. Sig P229 mags need the gap. I have a G27 that I use G23 mags in, they have a spacer at the bottom to match the grip, they need gap pouches. Sounds like cz’s can do with the gap? I’d probably go with gap just to spread them a bit and make the easier to snatch. |
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Posted: 9/23/2020 4:05:45 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Is that your “LOL”? Just a tiny bit worried about growth with holidays coming up Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: New possible issue/ minor worry. Esstac belt only goes to 48.3” or so waist. Mine is 47” and I’m not exactly fat. I would like a bit more wiggle room without going over $100/ shipped. Any second opinions? In before run fatty, just lose weight... Esstac all the things Is that your “LOL”? Just a tiny bit worried about growth with holidays coming up There's a couple companies who make good enough stuff that's all I buy. Esstac is one of them. |
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Posted: 9/23/2020 4:07:37 PM EDT
[#43]
Ferro Bison belt all the way! At least until the new BFG belt comes out.
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Posted: 9/23/2020 4:18:20 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Competition Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Battlebelts look cool as shit, but I see a lot of guys training with them that don't really train without them. What exactly are you training for? My training set up is pretty close to my conceal carry setup. It's not hard to learn to grab extra shit, but I think you're at a disadvantage if you don't train with the minimum. That being said, the real reason I don't have a battle belt is because of money, lol. Competition Ah, well, yes. There is that. |
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Posted: 9/23/2020 4:23:57 PM EDT
[#45]
I did. I changed it to just using the riggers belt with a neoprene foam insert made by HSGI. Same functionality, much less bulky, and the belt can also be used with a velcro inner belt for USPSA. Best of both worlds.
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Posted: 9/23/2020 5:00:33 PM EDT
[#46]
Y'all costing me money...
Just grabbed one from Tyr tactical. Tired of having to take holster and mag pouches off to thread my belt at the range. |
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Posted: 9/23/2020 5:10:12 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I’ll probably keep the pro fit and get two with the als w/light. I tried the bianchi paddle lock (?) years ago and it just didn’t work for my hand/ grip/ draw. So a little leery about trying new things when they cost as much as they do but still want retention. Also making sure what I order and want are the same and not get the wrong model. I have bad luck that way. I've never tried GLS, but it appears the main advantage of ALS is retention in a fight for the gun. An opponent can activate the GLS a lot easier than the ALS which is small and hidden between the gun and your body. |
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Posted: 9/23/2020 5:45:56 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Y'all costing me money... Just grabbed one from Tyr tactical. Tired of having to take holster and mag pouches off to thread my belt at the range. TYR is a great company and make awesome gear |
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Posted: 9/23/2020 6:12:45 PM EDT
[#49]
I’m having a problem finding a pistol holster for my new battle belt gun.
I need an open bottomed holster that will hold a 19/17/34 threaded or with a cool boy break. TLR-8. And RMR. Some sort of retention. I guess I have to wait until one of the custom kydex guys are back to taking orders. |
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Posted: 9/23/2020 6:22:13 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: pistol belts http://inrd.gotdns.com/alice/putittogether1.jpg pistol belts with heavy shit on them https://archive.defense.gov/dodcmsshare/photoessay/2010-08/hires_DF-ST-91-06514.jpg So a thin, unstructured pistol belt that needs suspenders to hold the weight. It's almost like they would come up with a solution for that....ohh, wait. |
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