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Link Posted: 2/8/2024 11:30:52 AM EDT
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Sweet

I have a BSA HM I found in my travels in Afghanistan.
Link Posted: 2/8/2024 11:34:22 AM EDT
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Here's a couple of my grail guns.  Oddly enough I don't own any of them anymore.  But I did just acquire a new one - the AI AXSR

Mk11mod0
https://i.ibb.co/z6Jd5kx/IMG-3033.jpg

3rd hole goodness with 11" carbon fiber bbl and triple tap
https://i.ibb.co/4P2SbMZ/IMG-3032.jpg

Sr25 military match, upgraded with best KAC suppressor ever
https://i.ibb.co/fCFKSXY/IMG-3028.jpg

Saving best for last
https://i.ibb.co/pX5ZPm3/IMG-0369.jpg
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M60

My buddy brought his class 3 M60 for my son and I to shoot. Just like old times.


Link Posted: 2/8/2024 11:38:25 AM EDT
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Nope. It is illegal for me to own my grail gun.
Link Posted: 2/8/2024 11:40:41 AM EDT
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Going to say I had; I did not know it at the time....it was my grail gun.
it was nothing special, except for me.  Simple smooth bore 20 ga deer / bird gun.
The sights were set up for deer, but with a smooth bore it was perfect for partridge hunting.  

When I was deployed to Wash DC area, the firearm got recycled due to mechanical issues back on the farm.
Boy did that shotgun earn its keep based on how often the family used it.

I could never find the same style shotgun on the used market.
Link Posted: 2/8/2024 11:43:05 AM EDT
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It completes the look

Have to be careful now, as there are a ton of Chinese knockoff S-1 bipods in the market. Even some of the SVD and AK parts dealers in Europe got tricked into buying them and they were sold as the real deal pre-COVID.

A buddy of mine (the guy I shot the Vintage Sniper matches with, in fact) is more of an SVD nerd than I am and has posted a pretty extensive write-up on S-1 bipods on a few different forums: The S-1 Bipod, a Study

The Lynx adapter on the KBI is a far superior, though less classy looking, bipod mounting solution.
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What about the S-1's from AK STUFF?


https://www.akstuff.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=57_79&product_id=214
Link Posted: 2/8/2024 11:46:27 AM EDT
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My grail gun would be the XM-177E2 I was issued back when I was cool.  I'm sure the Clinton administration crunched it.
Link Posted: 2/8/2024 11:46:31 AM EDT
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I have some guns that scratched an itch but my grail gun? No, i don’t own it.  Don’t think I’m allowed to lol
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Same
Link Posted: 2/8/2024 11:51:20 AM EDT
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It completes the look

Have to be careful now, as there are a ton of Chinese knockoff S-1 bipods in the market. Even some of the SVD and AK parts dealers in Europe got tricked into buying them and they were sold as the real deal pre-COVID.

A buddy of mine (the guy I shot the Vintage Sniper matches with, in fact) is more of an SVD nerd than I am and has posted a pretty extensive write-up on S-1 bipods on a few different forums: The S-1 Bipod, a Study

The Lynx adapter on the KBI is a far superior, though less classy looking, bipod mounting solution.


What about the S-1's from AK STUFF?


https://www.akstuff.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=57_79&product_id=214


I'd hit up Wolfmanreid on the AK Forum or AK Files. He's far smarter on the differences between the fake ones and the real S-1 bipods. Sorry.
Link Posted: 2/8/2024 11:55:20 AM EDT
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I have been able to obtain about a half of a dozen of them in the past few years. Nothing too ambitious, but just thing I had wanted for few decades.

Paying off my house a little over 5 years ago helped.
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Link Posted: 2/8/2024 12:10:32 PM EDT
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Had a Luger which I was dying to have.

Bigger disappointment than I thought and I sold it.

SVT40 and my P7M8 are probably the closest outside of FA obviously

Next would be a Nambu or something else weird
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I've always wanted a luger but I'm pretty sure i wouldn't love shooting it so I never got one.

MP40 probably. Not yet.
Link Posted: 2/8/2024 12:27:14 PM EDT
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You made it yourself on a mil?!?! Damn impressive work
Link Posted: 2/8/2024 2:20:57 PM EDT
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Many grail guns have come and gone over the years as they were either acquired and something bigger/better took their place in the grail gun hierarchy or I lost interest.

Probably the two top historical grail guns for me that took the most amount of research, planning, dollars, and ultimately time to acquire/build were my M60 and German HK21E/23E.




Link Posted: 2/8/2024 2:23:30 PM EDT
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Yes, and no, as I keep having Grail guns
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Yeah, this.

I mean, I'd love to have an SVD. There's a bunch of other stuff I'd like to have more, so for me these would be some cool ones I don't have:
1. Stechkin APS with stock/holster
2. Stoner 63A with all the other parts
3. StG 44
4. HE 40mm rounds for my M203
5. M134D Minigun - cannot afford to feed it though lol
6. M2HB -would be able to feed this one a little
7. M32A1 (if I could obtain #4)
8. Barrett M240LWS (since it's better than the M240 but uses its commonly available parts like barrels) TDP/IP of this design is now owned by Geissele, who doesn't sell any AFAIK.
9. PKP or PKM
10. Barrett M107A1
11. SVD is down here for me. (Maybe SVDS instead, but I think the original first because OG DMR)

I'm fortunate to now own a bunch of stuff on "grail gun" lists, including my old list(s).
I remember when I was 20 and never thought I'd have an HK Mark 23, but then I traded into one and it was amazing. (Still is!)

Full story is the frame cracked on that one, from some factory ammo Kb'ing. Ammo importer bought me a new one. I sold it and got another old(er) one with the Maritime finish and no safety lockout on the mainspring housing. The first one had the Maritime finish, but also some other guy's name laser-engraved on the slide like a billboard (and it'd rust there). It's the best handgun suppressor host I've got. Huge but shoots almost like a rifle. Badass in the dark with IR. Badass with .45 Super. Can mix-and-match Supers and subs in the same mag with the same recoil spring!
Link Posted: 2/8/2024 2:25:35 PM EDT
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Are you kidding me? Right after my post too??
I fucking hate you right now.
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Towerofpoer94's SVDs are super awesome!
100% badass.

Very impressive.
Link Posted: 2/8/2024 2:28:33 PM EDT
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What are those first ones?
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SIG PE57 and SIG-AMT
Link Posted: 2/8/2024 2:28:58 PM EDT
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You and I can be friends.


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Yes.

Original Enfield L1A1 LEO from Century.

Original Lithgow L1A1 SLR LEO from century.

Not kit built.

Not US receiver.


https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/313126/Screenshot_20190707-192608_Gallery_jpg-3121450.JPG

Both work fine.

I have over 40 Inch mags and 5 30 rdr magazines for it.

10k rounds of surplus m80 .308 radway green and hirtenberger.

I'm fine and happy.

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Link Posted: 2/8/2024 2:33:02 PM EDT
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Towerofpoer94's SVDs are super awesome!
100% badass.

Very impressive.
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I fucking hate you right now.
Towerofpoer94's SVDs are super awesome!
100% badass.

Very impressive.


Thank you, but I think they're dwarfed in awesomeness by some of the items in this thread.
Link Posted: 2/8/2024 2:53:37 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/8/2024 3:34:05 PM EDT
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No, it’s unlikely that I ever will either because it’s an MG42.
Link Posted: 2/8/2024 4:11:08 PM EDT
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I had to think about this a bit, my true “grail gun” is unobtainable for the most part, Stoner 63A.

But a gun I’ve want for a long time is a 300 WSM AR, which I’m in the process of building. I guess it it a grail gun in a sense.
Link Posted: 2/8/2024 4:36:18 PM EDT
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MAC 10
Mini Uzi
Barrett 82
Custom 1911
Laugo Alien

Have since sold three of the five.
Link Posted: 2/8/2024 4:41:01 PM EDT
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Not yet..:



Link Posted: 2/8/2024 4:53:35 PM EDT
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Not so much a grail gun as I wish for guns no longer made.

-- Remington 11-87 Upland Special
-- Remington XP-100
-- Remington Nylon 66
-- T/C Contender
-- Anschutz Exemplar
Link Posted: 2/8/2024 5:14:14 PM EDT
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no. a stacco is on the short list. not sure what my "grail gun" even is. lots I want. I'd love a pretty #1 in a normal popular caliber like .223,243,308 or 22-250. sig 55something. ACR, MP5 etc.
Link Posted: 2/8/2024 7:38:35 PM EDT
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I had to think about this a bit, my true “grail gun” is unobtainable for the most part, Stoner 63A.

But a gun I’ve want for a long time is a 300 WSM AR, which I’m in the process of building. I guess it it a grail gun in a sense.
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@RUM

Please do a thread on that build when it’s done. The factory offerings from NEMO seem sketchy in the reliability department so I’ll be interested to see how it goes for you.
Link Posted: 2/8/2024 7:48:14 PM EDT
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I've always wanted a luger but I'm pretty sure i wouldn't love shooting it so I never got one.

MP40 probably. Not yet.
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Had a Luger which I was dying to have.

Bigger disappointment than I thought and I sold it.

SVT40 and my P7M8 are probably the closest outside of FA obviously

Next would be a Nambu or something else weird


I've always wanted a luger but I'm pretty sure i wouldn't love shooting it so I never got one.

MP40 probably. Not yet.



If you are looking for a amazing shooting gun, it doesn't hold a candle to hundreds of modern examples. It's a piece of art and mechanically unique. That's the draw.
Link Posted: 2/8/2024 7:49:17 PM EDT
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SIG PE57 and SIG-AMT
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What are those first ones?


SIG PE57 and SIG-AMT

Something im completely unfamiliar with  that's refreshing. Cool rifles
Link Posted: 2/8/2024 8:52:28 PM EDT
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Something im completely unfamiliar with  that's refreshing. Cool rifles
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What are those first ones?


SIG PE57 and SIG-AMT

Something im completely unfamiliar with  that's refreshing. Cool rifles


Yeah those are awesome
Link Posted: 2/8/2024 8:53:31 PM EDT
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That a Wildey or an AMT?
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That a Wildey or an AMT?
Link Posted: 2/8/2024 9:01:11 PM EDT
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I have some guns that scratched an itch but my grail gun? No, i don’t own it.  Don’t think I’m allowed to lol
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This right here
Link Posted: 2/8/2024 9:06:33 PM EDT
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I have one of them, the AUG

Link Posted: 2/8/2024 9:13:13 PM EDT
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Its a little more special if you build it yourself.  Twice

Link Posted: 2/9/2024 2:39:36 AM EDT
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My grail gun is a beretta 93r so no
Link Posted: 2/9/2024 3:14:28 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/9/2024 8:00:57 AM EDT
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No, my grail gun is a minigun.

I do own one I wanted a lot.  Had a mp5/10 built from a new German barrel some years ago.
Link Posted: 2/9/2024 9:30:59 AM EDT
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@towerofpower94

Link to thread

Started one in AR Variants, it’s going to be a while before I update.
Link Posted: 2/9/2024 9:39:09 AM EDT
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I wanted a Holland & Holland double rifle in 7.62x54R.  

Those snooty Englishmen refused to build it for me after I told them that I planned to use surplus steel cased Russian ammo.
Link Posted: 2/9/2024 9:45:26 AM EDT
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I do not, but I'll pick one up eventually.  It's just a WW2 (or prior) vintage 1911.  Every time I find one for a reasonable price the funds aren't really there, or when I have the disposable funds, I wind up buying yet another S&W wheelgun.  I'll make it a point to find one this year, though.
Link Posted: 2/9/2024 9:47:22 AM EDT
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Yeah those are awesome
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Every time there’s a grail gun thread I mention wanting an STG57 and he either has just posted those or posts them after.

It’s like he’s rubbing it in!

It’s a gun so ugly it’s beautiful
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Link Posted: 2/9/2024 10:11:49 AM EDT
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I have acquired most of my grail guns.

But another follows to take its place.

Current grail guns:

Stoner 63

Theodore Roosevelt's Holland & Holland .500-450 Nitro Express double rifle.
Link Posted: 2/9/2024 10:32:37 AM EDT
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If you are looking for a amazing shooting gun, it doesn't hold a candle to hundreds of modern examples. It's a piece of art and mechanically unique. That's the draw.
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Beautiful art indeed. But art that has to sit in a safe.
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I have acquired most of my grail guns.

But another follows to take its place.

Current grail guns:

Stoner 63

Theodore Roosevelt's Holland & Holland .500-450 Nitro Express double rifle.
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TRs Fox #12 shotgun is on display at a museum here in Texas.  It was cool to get to see it in person.
Link Posted: 2/9/2024 1:27:38 PM EDT
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Other than that M134 mini gun I've always wanted, yes, pretty much.
Link Posted: 2/11/2024 1:02:04 AM EDT
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Sort of. I own an HK SP5 and SP5K (and an MP5-22 and MP5SD-22). If they had the fun setting on them they'd be full grail guns. But I'm not complaining!
Link Posted: 2/11/2024 1:12:07 AM EDT
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My realistic grail gun for many years was an M14 (semi-auto) clone, which I now own.

My unrealistic grail gun remains an original M1928 Thompson.

Link Posted: 2/11/2024 1:33:26 AM EDT
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Many moons ago I thought the FAL was a grail gun for me. I was in heaven when I bought my first one.  A few more FALs and a few more years under my belt and I discovered that the FAL might be rugged, but it wasn’t very accurate.  

I suppose I do own my grail gun, and I bought it a dozen years ago without knowing it.  It’s a DPMS in 6.5 Creedmoor.    It’s simply accurate with factory ammo and with my reloads.
Link Posted: 2/11/2024 1:36:33 AM EDT
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I’ve built my grail AR.

About 12 times now.
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