Posted: 7/18/2010 6:29:02 PM EDT
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Is it up to them? I don't remember them carrying anything but I didn't see them very often either. |
I had never thought about it before and the wife asked. I was at the MOB site with a Chaplain that had an SF tab and he was good guy. He sat out at night and drank beer with us every night, had some good stories too. I never thought to ask how it worked being an SF Chaplain |
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Quoted: Quoted: Nope. That's what the Chaplain's Assistant is for. I don't think the Chaplain is even able to under the laws of war and the various conventions. during the thunder run a chaplain said "fuck this" and started shooting at the bad guys at one of the overpasses. |
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When I was at Fort Hood a long time ago, our Brigade Chaplain had a Ranger Tab, CIB w/star, Master Parachutist wings with a combat jump star, Air Assault wings, Pathfinder wings, and a Ranger combat patch. I guess he got the call. His name start with an L? If so, I've done JM duties with him at Bragg. |
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Quoted: When I was at Fort Hood a long time ago, our Brigade Chaplain had a Ranger Tab, CIB w/star, Master Parachutist wings with a combat jump star, Air Assault wings, Pathfinder wings, and a Ranger combat patch. I guess he got the call. some chaplains have been in the mil, left, then went to seminary and came back. my friends dad is a chaplain, a Major, and his first go round did the Ranger, jump wings, etc routine. |
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Quoted: Quoted: When I was at Fort Hood a long time ago, our Brigade Chaplain had a Ranger Tab, CIB w/star, Master Parachutist wings with a combat jump star, Air Assault wings, Pathfinder wings, and a Ranger combat patch. I guess he got the call. His name start with an L? If so, I've done JM duties with him at Bragg. This was around 96/97. He was a LTC then, so he's probably long since retired. |
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RP's carry weapons, they pretty much get them out of any shit that stirred up. I remember back in SOI we had one training with us under the 0311 package. RP? Navy RP |
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Quoted: Quoted: Nope. That's what the Chaplain's Assistant is for. Thats kinda of weird because from what I saw the Chaplains Assistant was always some dicked up guy that was well on his way to being chaptered out  I have a sampling of one, but my Pastor is also a .mil chaplain and his chap. asst. is a man from our church that joined up just for that. They are both salt of the earth men. I'd trust either with the lives of my children. Per them, the chap. asst is assigned protective duty as part of his job description. ETA: Just wanted to add that they've both been deployed together to the "sandbox' twice. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Nope. That's what the Chaplain's Assistant is for. Thats kinda of weird because from what I saw the Chaplains Assistant was always some dicked up guy that was well on his way to being chaptered out Our Bde Chaplain Assistant when I was at Hood had a case of teh crazy, but all the others I've known have been squared away. Many that I've known were prior 11B, and take their job very seriously. |
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Nope. That's what the Chaplain's Assistant is for. I don't think the Chaplain is even able to under the laws of war and the various conventions. If it gets bad enough: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/1427421/The-10-hour-battle-for-Curly-Larry-and-Moe.html |
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Nope. That's what the Chaplain's Assistant is for. Thats kinda of weird because from what I saw the Chaplains Assistant was always some dicked up guy that was well on his way to being chaptered out
Wrong. Chaplain's Asst is MOS 56M. Doesn't mean they can't be as fucked as anyone else though. |
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Nope. That's what the Chaplain's Assistant is for. Thats kinda of weird because from what I saw the Chaplains Assistant was always some dicked up guy that was well on his way to being chaptered out
Our Bde Chaplain Assistant when I was at Hood had a case of teh crazy, but all the others I've known have been squared away. Many that I've known were prior 11B, and take their job very seriously. Our CA is quite good at her job. Since she is my wife I have to say that. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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My regimental Chaplain back in 03 was a Ranger in the late 80s/early 90s. did a few deployments (that he mentioned) and then decided to become a Chaplain.
He was pretty hardcore. Told us about how he got in trouble in Germany for starting a Fight Club. a No Shit fight club. started by a Chaplain. He also assaulted various Iraqis to get to and extract some wounded during a riot. I typically hate Chaplains, but I love that guy. EDIT- My BN Chaplain of the same time frame was a nutcase. Told us before a deployment to Iraq that we were "on a crusade against the jihadis" and the we were the "tools of God"
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| We had Chaplains and their assistants go through pre-deployment training with us several times and one thing the cadre made them do irregardless of their status was qualify on the M9, M4 and M16. We also had them fam fire on the M203, Mk19 and M2. One Chaplain was a fucking sniper with a 203. On one rotation I did, one of the trainers told the Chaplain to really pay attention to the tactics he was teaching because his assistant was a useless piece of shit and there was no way that kid would save his ass if things went south. The look on the Chaplains face was priceless. |
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Nope. That's what the Chaplain's Assistant is for. Thats kinda of weird because from what I saw the Chaplains Assistant was always some dicked up guy that was well on his way to being chaptered out
In my entire military career, I've only met one good chaplains assistant (in 221 Cav), every other example was either a problematic troubled homosexual or some sort of crazy person. |
| Chaplain's aren't supposed to carry weapons and if they are found to have carried a weapon, they can be brought up on charges or something. Not sure what can be done, but something not good for their career. They are considered non-combatants and not legally able to carry weapons. That said, if I was a chaplain in the sandbox, I'd be finding one to carry. The jihadi's very much want to capture or kill chaplains. One because most chaplains are Christians and two to demoralize the troops. |
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Nope. That's what the Chaplain's Assistant is for. Thats kinda of weird because from what I saw the Chaplains Assistant was always some dicked up guy that was well on his way to being chaptered out
In my entire military career, I've only met one good chaplains assistant (in 221 Cav), every other example was either a problematic troubled homosexual or some sort of crazy person. You hit the nail right on the head there. I only met a few Chaplains assistants that were normal. Most were total weirdos. I knew one guy who retrained from Security Forces to Chaplains Assistant. He was a nice guy, but very religious. It was funny to hear him talk about how he hated all the, "touchy feely bullshit" as he called it. He did good work, but I think they couldn't get the SP attitude out of him, because one of the Chaplains said he was prone to bursts of profanity and was often too stern with people. |
| Not sure about the last 50 years but my mom's second husband, Ross Stephens was a "Machine-gun Sergeant" in Korea. He did not speak much about the war just a very rare little story every so often. One he told me was that a new Chaplain arrived and would not carry a gun. Ross sent him back and said he had no fucking use for someone who would not carry a rifle in a war. |
| I also had a Chaplain ride a couple Patrol shifts with me. The first ride a long he asked me how to release the lock on my AR. He said he was in Vietnam and knows how to use the rifle and wanted to be able to help me if I needed it. Not sure he was a Chaplain in Vietnam but he is the Pastor of his Church and serves as a Chaplain for 2 Police Departments and the Sheriff's Department now. |
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My Dad knew a Chaplain in the Army in the early 60s who had served in WWII. He did not carry a weapon for all of the war except one time. He was on one of the pacific islands (I do not remember which one) and he had linked up with a detachment of Marines. They were spread thin and had alot of wounded. They were worried about being over run if the japanese attacked that night. So this Chaplain picked up a carbine and some ammo. Some of the marines questioned/joked with him about it since he was not supposed to be armed.
He replied that he had a duty to defend the wounded (japanese were known to kill them) and felt this overrode any moral or legal matters. He then proceeded to tell the marines "Anyhow, God will forgive me. They are all heathens anyway" 
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I think there was an article a while back that said they were considering letting chaplains carry a sidearm for self-defense (and suicide) if attacked or captured by extremists. I think it was talking about Iraq at the time of the article. American Soldiers do not carry weapons to commit suicide with. What the hell is wrong with you? |
