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11/28/2007 7:21:32 AM EDT
I understand to be politically correct as I deal with the public in my business. But, when did they start calling a Christmas tree a "Holiday Tree" Am I the only one with an issue. Please voice your opinions. I would like to see how many people are offended with it being called a Christmas tree?
11/28/2007 7:22:16 AM EDT
[#1]
Christmas Tree!

IBTP.
11/28/2007 7:23:16 AM EDT
[#2]
I usually storm around going, "BAH!  Humbug!".

Shane
11/28/2007 7:24:14 AM EDT
[#3]
Christmas tree.  Fuck all the other holidays. It is a CHRISTMAS TREE. Im not PC either.
11/28/2007 7:24:27 AM EDT
[#4]
I was at ohare airport last week and they had donated christmas trees that were labled holiday trees. Pissed me off
11/28/2007 7:25:52 AM EDT
[#5]
It's a Christmas tree!
11/28/2007 7:27:21 AM EDT
[#6]
It's a Christmas tree. Holiday trees are for people who are afraid of offending others at the expense of their own beliefs.
11/28/2007 7:27:34 AM EDT
[#7]
Why worry it is just a stolen pagan symbol.
11/28/2007 7:28:24 AM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
It's a Christmas tree!


+1
11/28/2007 7:35:38 AM EDT
[#9]

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Why worry it is just a stolen pagan symbol.


And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God...

11/28/2007 7:38:41 AM EDT
[#10]
I've called it a 'Hanukkah Bush' since college. I lived with a bunch of Jewish kids and one mom too offense to the tree. The guys thought it was great.
11/28/2007 7:39:02 AM EDT
[#11]
Call 1-800-626-6328 to tell The Whitehouse about it.
11/28/2007 7:40:19 AM EDT
[#12]
do any other holidays erect conifers in December?

11/28/2007 7:40:31 AM EDT
[#13]
CHRISTmas Tree.
11/28/2007 7:41:15 AM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:
I've called it a 'Hanukkah Bush' since college. I lived with a bunch of Jewish kids and one mom too offense to the tree. The guys thought it was great.


LOL>>>  


I'd get warned for some shit like that.
11/28/2007 7:41:15 AM EDT
[#15]
Christmas tree....And MERRY CHRISTMAS
11/28/2007 7:43:00 AM EDT
[#16]

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CHRISTmas Tree.


+1
11/28/2007 7:43:28 AM EDT
[#17]
Its called a CHRISTmas tree, fuck the liberals and their feelings.
11/28/2007 7:43:33 AM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:

Quoted:
CHRISTmas Tree.


+1


Anyone who calls it anything else is a dumbass.
11/28/2007 7:45:49 AM EDT
[#19]
Just call it a tree that was stolen from Pagan winter solstice festivals..
11/28/2007 7:46:53 AM EDT
[#20]

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Just call it a tree that was stolen from Pagan winter solstice festivals..


That made me chuckle...
11/28/2007 7:48:05 AM EDT
[#21]
It is and always will be a Christmas tree. But if someone wants to call it a holiday tree I really couldn't care less.



eta Do we call it a holiday menorah? How about a holiday kinara? (Yeah, I had to look up the Kwanzaa candle holder things name). It's a Christmas tree.
11/28/2007 7:48:32 AM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:
do any other holidays erect conifers in December?



Pagans celebrating the Yule?

I call it a Christmas tree.
11/28/2007 7:50:41 AM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:
I've called it a 'Hanukkah Bush' since college. I lived with a bunch of Jewish kids and one mom too offense to the tree. The guys thought it was great.


Is that similar to a Kwanza shrub?
11/28/2007 7:57:06 AM EDT
[#24]
I don't think it really matters at all.  As Silence pointed out, the tradition of using a coniferous TREE as part of the Christmas celebration seems to be a northern European thing (pagan in origin) that was adopted/co-opted by Christians long after the birth of Christ.  

I wonder if pagans at the time were pissed that Christians "stole" their tradition, and started "incorrectly" calling it a Christmas tree.  

In fact, in Scandinavian countries, while Christmas celebrates the birth of Christ, is it still called "Jul" - after the pre-Christian pagan winter celebration.  So in Denmark, the Christmas tree is called a Juletree.

Ultimately, what is important is that Christians who are celebrating the birth of Christ (which may or may not have actually been on December 24/25th anyway ) enjoy their tree, regardless of what it may be called.




11/28/2007 8:00:04 AM EDT
[#25]
Fox 8 News in Ohio gave a figure that 86% of US citizens call it a Christmas tree. To me it stands as a symbol of tradition and family values. It's a time to give a gift to someone close and true to your heart. If you are like me, I always get myself a little something from the family pet, and put it under the tree for me to open last.
11/28/2007 8:13:55 AM EDT
[#26]
It irritates me when people have modern electric lights instead of the traditionally correct candles.  If you're going to have a Christmas tree, it should be done right.  

I also hate fake trees .  I want the smell of spruce (or pine or whatever you prefer) needles in the house.


I'm not picking on anyone in particular - and I'm not jsut talking about Christmas, but more generally -  but it rubs me the wrong way when tradition gets watered down in the name of convenience or ease.
11/28/2007 8:17:25 AM EDT
[#27]

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It irritates me when people have modern electric lights instead of the traditionally correct candles.  If you're going to have a Christmas tree, it should be done right.  

I also hate fake trees .  I want the smell of spruce (or pine or whatever you prefer) needles in the house.


I'm not picking on anyone in particular - and I'm not jsut talking about Christmas, but more generally -  but it rubs me the wrong way when tradition gets watered down in the name of convenience or ease.



So a real tree with candles on it? Isn't that umm..........not very safe?


And if that was said in sarcasm.......I am a tool.
11/28/2007 8:17:32 AM EDT
[#28]

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Christmas tree.  Fuck all the other holidays. It is a CHRISTMAS TREE. Im not PC either.


+1
11/28/2007 8:22:30 AM EDT
[#29]
I guess I am just too cheap and lazy to care one way or the other.
11/28/2007 8:26:10 AM EDT
[#30]
I call it a Christmas tree,even though I'm not religious. I can still remember finding a big bag under that tree full of cool plastic  Army men and tanks, cannons etc. My love of firearms was born on that morning!!!!
11/28/2007 8:28:08 AM EDT
[#31]
I can't remember the last time I decorated a tree in my living room for July 4th or Memorial day, so yes it is a Christmas Tree.......
11/28/2007 8:28:26 AM EDT
[#32]

Quoted:


So a real tree with candles on it? Isn't that umm..........not very safe?


And if that was said in sarcasm.......I am a tool.


No, it wasn't sarcastic at all.  When i was a kid growing up in Denmark, I never saw a tree with electric lights.  All of our trees had real candles, as did the trees of all my friends.

I suppose it could be somewhat dangerous, but so is driving a car, and any number of other things that people do every day without getting hurt.  As long as you do it carefully, it's pretty safe.  We always had a bucket of water or a fire extinguisher close by, but we never had a tree catch fire, and neither did anyone I know.



Although when I was in the army, a tree in the sergeant's mess DID catch fire, but it was because a drunken staff sergeant stumbled into it when it was lit and knocked it over.  A fire extinguisher quickly fixed that, and there was no damage to the building (other than a little paint for the celing).
11/28/2007 8:30:36 AM EDT
[#33]

Quoted:

Quoted:


So a real tree with candles on it? Isn't that umm..........not very safe?


And if that was said in sarcasm.......I am a tool.


No, it wasn't sarcastic at all.  When i was a kid growing up in Denmark, I never saw a tree with electric lights.  All of our trees had real candles, as did the trees of all my friends.

I suppose it could be somewhat dangerous, but so is driving a car, and any number of other things that people do every day without getting hurt.  As long as you do it carefully, it's pretty safe.  We always had a bucket of water or a fire extinguisher close by, but we never had a tree catch fire, and neither did anyone I know.



Although when I was in the army, a tree in the sergeant's mess DID catch fire, but it was because a drunken staff sergeant stumbled into it when it was lit and knocked it over.  A fire extinguisher quickly fixed that, and there was no damage to the building (other than a little paint for the celing).


Please don't use candles on your tree. The US has the worlds WORST fire safety record already.
11/28/2007 8:31:37 AM EDT
[#34]

Quoted:

So a real tree with candles on it? Isn't that umm..........not very safe?


And if that was said in sarcasm.......I am a tool.


The goose, the goose, the goose is on fire, we don't need no water let the Mother Goose burn.
11/28/2007 8:33:37 AM EDT
[#35]

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Please don't use candles on your tree. The US has the worlds WORST fire safety record already.


The US also has a huge number of traffic fatalities every year.  Should I stop driving?


I don't mean to sound like an ass, but I am very careful about my Christmas tree (including never leaving it unattended when it is lit, obviously, and having fire extinguishers handy), so I think I'll keep celebrating Christmas the way I have since I was a child.

But, I will agree with you that it probably isn't for everyone.  And I'm not encouraging people to start doing it if it's an unfamiliar thing to them.



ETA:  I just found it an interesting observation that some people who believe strongly in the Christmas "tradition" may be cutting corners with stuff like electric lights and artificial trees.
11/28/2007 8:35:16 AM EDT
[#36]

Quoted:

Quoted:
do any other holidays erect conifers in December?



Pagans celebrating the Yule?

I call it a Christmas tree.


Pagans?

That's kinda vague.
11/28/2007 9:03:57 AM EDT
[#37]
1Hear ye the word which the LORD speaketh unto you, O house of Israel

2Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.

3For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.

4They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.

5They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good.


jeremiah 10:1,5