Go look at a Kia carnival.

It's nicer than anything on the market right now.

@gitarmac

Its pretty nice and yes they are on the lots as we speak

Here is the fanciest version

Horrible crash test for a 2020

Well the caravan is old

Isnt that only overseas? Here its the Sedona or w/e?

Wife has an Odessey Touring, I wasn’t sold on the mini van idea but she had to have one. Started with an older used Odessey and the wind picked up to 70mph one day and a tree crushed it. If my kids were inside they would’ve been unharmed so I bought her a new one.

Honestly it’s a great vehicle. Gets around 30mpg highway, comfortable seats for road trips and has 8 seats.

Kids got the tv system which is cool. I can also stack 8’ 2x4’s in it with the doors closed. The rear row folds flat which is great, I bought my kids these electric Razor four wheelers. I fit two of them in the van with my kids in the middle row lol.

I've been thinking of getting a beater utility vehicle, but every truck and 4x4 is crazy-insano pricing... just punched Dodge Grand Caravan in google and a 2015 with 37k popped up for $14,900 @ Carmax... I'd seriously never considered a minivan, never driven one... maybe never ben in one, but sounds like could do pretty much everything I need... 20+ gallon fuel tank too

Nope its carnival here now too

Already sold a few

looks like you could fit some unhealthy, fatass in-laws in there pretty comfortably..

I had a 2014 Caravan that the engine starting misfiring at 77k miles. I'll never buy Chysler again. My mother had a 2002 Chevy Venture that she abused and overload towed with and got 300k miles before it died. She's about to buy a new Kia Sedona or Carnival. I like a minivan for the versatility.

I would go for a KIA or Hyundai CUV and just put up with a shitty dealer experience.

Orange interior is queer.

That doubles the value of that vehicle.

I also rented one of these for a one way trip Texas to Nevada.  20 miles west of Albuquerque the rear right tire went flat.  No problem, easy to change a tire.
I start looking in the rear cargo space for the spare, jack, and tools, not there.  So I break out the manual.  It says the spare tire, a donut, is located up under the passenger compartment between the front seats.
The lowering device for the spare is in the console between the front seats.  What a pain so far.  I am down on the ground looking under the vehicle for the spare.
I found the empty space where the spare should have been.
Back to the manual.  Found that a spare tire is optional and that the vehicle may or may not have a spare tire.  If no spare then an air pump and fix a flat can are included.
Found these, put the fix a flat stuff into the tire, waited the specified time then aired it up.
Tire aired up to normal pressure, disconnected the air pump and the fix a flat stuff is leaking out of the tire and the tire is deflating.
The hole in the tire is too big for the fix a flat stuff.
Just something to check if you are buying one of these.

There is not much 20 miles west of Albuquerque in I-40.  Cell service was spotty.  Enterprise rent a car was useless.  Get the vehicle to Albuquerque and they will swap it out.
Left on our own to get it back to Albuquerque.  At least it is late fall and temperatures are not extreme.

It's actually more of a caramel colour

Pic is deceiving

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I've driven Chrysler minivans since 1987. For about 30 of those years I worked out those vans as a cabinet man. I would look for a unit with 150K or less miles, and $3K in price.  I never replaced a transmission or had any engine issue.  I only drive the 3.3 engine with 4 speed overdrive Trans.  DON'T LET ANYONE PUT ONE DROP OF TRANSMISSION FLUID OTHER THAN FACTORY CERTIFIED CORRECT FLUID. Oil change places and mechanics will tell you Dextron II or others work just fine. Don't let them. I generally sold the vans at slightly less less than 300K miles for around  $1,900.00. The AC fails about then.

Good qualities include:
Excellent comfort and roomy interior
Drives like a car  with plenty of pep.
Load the back under a covered hatch in case it's raining.
Carry enough plywood for a small set of cabinets in the dry.
Tools in the back are locked and out of sight.

Works for me.

About 10 years ago my ex's parents wanted to take the family on a cruise.  I rented a minivan to drive to Miami to catch the boat. It was actually awesome to travel with.  The parents were already in Fl, so it was my ex and her son and his g/f. Saved a ton of money over airfare renting the van for 10 days and parking at the port for 7 days. I actually really enjoyed driving the minivan on the road trip.

We're done with minivans now, but they were certainly handy for when the kids were little.  My current stable....

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I have a 2016 T&C Limited
Platinum with a lifetime warranty. I LOVE IT!

The strongest and most reliable transmission in this pic is the Kitty Cat snowmobile.    Both the Caravan and Spirit transmissions blowed up.    


Granted, this pic is frum a longggggg time ago, but, I never forget how horrible their transmissions were.

The Pacifica Touring L is by far the best value for a minivan.  We bought one in Jan. 2021 with less than 35000 miles.  OTD we were under 21000.  I think it was $20800.

A lightly used Dodge Grand Caravan is one of the best deals you can get right now.  They are dirt cheap and with proper maintenance will run for awhile.  The v6 is really peppy and will easily light up the front tires if you get into it.  Huge amount of usable space.  

I personally don't fit too well behind the wheel and longer drives get really uncomfortable but for just around town it's not bad.  My ex-wife drives one and I maintained it for several years and drove it quite a bit.  Honda and Toyota are a huge step up in build quality and comfort but also cost twice as much.

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