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I’m recently windowed since May this year after 39 years together, following a three-year cycle of illness / hospitalization / surgeries. The unexpected, unforeseen, accidental cause of it all was tragic and unnecessary; she should still be here but isn’t.
I thought I was prepared, but the finality of the end was a massive shock. I was in a fog of grief and suffering for three weeks, until I suddenly realized I was torturing myself with nostalgia. I kept looking at old photos, reading old love letters, thinking of her when she was young and beautiful & older and still beautiful, looking at her things, listening to old songs, smelling her perfumes, touching her clothing, smelling her scent on clothing she had worn. I was romanticizing the romance we had together. I decided to intentionally extract myself from the prison I was building involuntarily. So much of what I was mourning was actually already lost to the past, even before she passed away. I took down pictures that were constantly reminding me of the loss. I started cleaning out her things. I either gave it away, threw it away, or stored it in a special box of memories I’m keeping. I looked around the house and started re-making it into my space for my purposes. It’s freeing when you realize there’s no longer a committee or consultation involved in every domestic decision. She had dozens and dozens of scented candles, for example, which I never liked and now they are all gone and I have new closet space. Every closet I clean, every drawer I organize is therapy. I’m in control, not the grief. A big part of the recovery process, I think, is discovering the “you” instead of continuing to identify as the “us” that’s irretrievably gone. What are your goals & expectations? Who are you and who do you want to become? There’s power in finding a new sense of self and new purpose, a new identity. I’m indulging in my hobbies and interests, keeping my hands and my mind occupied. I bought a large tract of land and it’s a great source of purpose; to acquire it, manage and steward it, and be out there on it and in it. So, I think it’s important to not spend too much time just sitting and stewing, waiting and suffering. The key is to act and initiate the changes you want to see in yourself and your life. Of course, I miss her terribly and would give anything to have her back for a week, a day, a few hours. The pangs of grief come unexpectedly and without warning. What I do now is acknowledge it, honor it, indulge it for a bit, then intentionally disengage and find something worthwhile and distracting to go keep myself busy. I don’t have all the answers, but wanted to share some of the things I’m doing that seem to help. I’m still not super social as a solo operator, although I have made the effort to go to events & gatherings and to travel. It’s really good to be around people who know you and care for you, and want to help you get back to being “normal” again. At 60, I’m undecided on the topic of eventually seeing women. On the one hand, I miss the feminine influence in my life, and sex is still very much on my mind. On the other hand, do I want the new baggage and new complications, do I want to spend the time & emotional effort getting to know her family, or God forbid, what if I have to see her through a mortal illness and end up alone again? What if she’s a typical 60-year-old woman and hardly wants to have sex? What about financial entanglements? What about the risk of STDs? What about her ex’s and estranged past lovers and all that mess? I don’t know. One day at a time. Now excuse me…I need to go polish my motorcycle! |
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Personally, NO. I divorced after 25 years of marriage and the other day it would have been 31. I did think about it for a couple times during those days during the anniversary but that's it. Girlfriend found her late husband crushed under his car in the garage and then found a guy for 10 years who cheated on her. She kicked him out, and now we are together and have been for 5+ years.
He will move on when he is ready but damn, shit or get off the pot. |
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I can’t relate and I thank God for that.
My wife is 70 years old with a heart condition. I have cancer. I don’t know which will be worse in our order of dying. I get panic attacks thinking about it. God bless you all. |
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How old are you Op? I know it’s easier said than done, but you have to move on. Depression is a killer.
Watching people I know go through this is horrible. With my wife possibly sick again, I freak out thinking about my 2 young kids and what they’re going to go through. The wife and I have talked about it and we both know we want the other to move on and live life. |
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Interesting thread, OP. Can't help but wonder if that's where I'm headed. I'm over 5 years into being the sole caregiver for my wife with what is considered a terminal diagnosis.
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Quoted: never been in your shoes, but Ive told my wife if anything ever happens to me to go enjoy life and dont be alone, I bet your wife would want you to enjoy your life too. View Quote Ditto that. One would have to be quite selfish and insecure to want their spouse to be alone. My wife and I don't roll that way. |
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My mother spent nearly 30 years as a widow. The first few years were rough for her. Stay healthy for the time being. You will decide it is the right time to go out. Chin up.
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Quoted: My wife passed away from cancer in February of 2019. We were both in our early 40s with no kids. I have managed to move on in some aspects, but not others, even after all this time. I had read the suggestion to not make any major decisions for at least six months, just to get past the initial shock and adjustment phase. And I think that's generally good advice. After about 9 months, I decided that I needed a project. Something to distract me, occupy my time, shake things up, and have a new experience. I decided to do something that I had kinda wanted to do for the past few years, and I decided to go for it. I ended up moving to a lake house. I'd kinda wanted to do it for a few years and had thought that maybe we would some day. I'm not sure if I would have if we hadn't just moved into the house we were living in just two years earlier. We spent the vast majority of our marriage in one house. It had a lot of history and memories. When she got sick, she wanted to move to a smaller one-story house. Also, we were very close to a busy railroad, and the noise had been grating. She wanted to move somewhere more peaceful. It was a nice little house, and we liked it very much. A few months after she died, I realized that while it was a great house for us, it wasn't the best house for me. I think only being in the house 18 months before she died may have made it easier to move again. If it had been the house we'd been in for 15 years, I would have had a harder time making that leap. Overall, I think the shake-up has been good for me. It most definitely gave me multiple things to focus on doing and gave me some direction, which I needed. And I'm glad I did it. But things haven't all been easy. I hurt mightily when I sit there and wish I could share with her all the things I've been doing. I know she would enjoy the lake and going out boating. She would love the new house I bought. I want to introduce her to a great new restaurant I discovered. I want her to meet my new cat. As time passes, I feel like I'm leaving her further behind, and it kills me sometimes. When I sold the little house she loved, on the last day I was there, I sat in the empty bedroom floor where our bed had been, and I cried for an hour. Her urn is on my dresser, and I sometimes stand there and tell her about my day, especially if something big happened, good news and bad. I have a few close family and friends, but not that many, and I don't always see them as much as I'd like. I'm wanting to start dating again, but I haven't yet. I haven't figured out how to get started on that one yet. I did manage to work up the courage to ask one person out, but she turned me down. Then I went back into my cave. It doesn't help that I am quite introverted and have almost no dating experience aside from my wife. We did talk quite a bit while she was sick, and she made it clear she wanted me to find someone new and be happy. And even her parents have reassured me that if I find someone new, they won't be offended. I appreciated them telling me that. But I'm not there yet. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Greetings, fellow widowed hermit. You get it don't you My wife passed away from cancer in February of 2019. We were both in our early 40s with no kids. I have managed to move on in some aspects, but not others, even after all this time. I had read the suggestion to not make any major decisions for at least six months, just to get past the initial shock and adjustment phase. And I think that's generally good advice. After about 9 months, I decided that I needed a project. Something to distract me, occupy my time, shake things up, and have a new experience. I decided to do something that I had kinda wanted to do for the past few years, and I decided to go for it. I ended up moving to a lake house. I'd kinda wanted to do it for a few years and had thought that maybe we would some day. I'm not sure if I would have if we hadn't just moved into the house we were living in just two years earlier. We spent the vast majority of our marriage in one house. It had a lot of history and memories. When she got sick, she wanted to move to a smaller one-story house. Also, we were very close to a busy railroad, and the noise had been grating. She wanted to move somewhere more peaceful. It was a nice little house, and we liked it very much. A few months after she died, I realized that while it was a great house for us, it wasn't the best house for me. I think only being in the house 18 months before she died may have made it easier to move again. If it had been the house we'd been in for 15 years, I would have had a harder time making that leap. Overall, I think the shake-up has been good for me. It most definitely gave me multiple things to focus on doing and gave me some direction, which I needed. And I'm glad I did it. But things haven't all been easy. I hurt mightily when I sit there and wish I could share with her all the things I've been doing. I know she would enjoy the lake and going out boating. She would love the new house I bought. I want to introduce her to a great new restaurant I discovered. I want her to meet my new cat. As time passes, I feel like I'm leaving her further behind, and it kills me sometimes. When I sold the little house she loved, on the last day I was there, I sat in the empty bedroom floor where our bed had been, and I cried for an hour. Her urn is on my dresser, and I sometimes stand there and tell her about my day, especially if something big happened, good news and bad. I have a few close family and friends, but not that many, and I don't always see them as much as I'd like. I'm wanting to start dating again, but I haven't yet. I haven't figured out how to get started on that one yet. I did manage to work up the courage to ask one person out, but she turned me down. Then I went back into my cave. It doesn't help that I am quite introverted and have almost no dating experience aside from my wife. We did talk quite a bit while she was sick, and she made it clear she wanted me to find someone new and be happy. And even her parents have reassured me that if I find someone new, they won't be offended. I appreciated them telling me that. But I'm not there yet. Damn A_C… ETA: I think I remember a thread when you mentioned that you lost your wife. Maybe it was your thread or maybe someone else’s. Thinking about it, it doesn’t seem like you post as much as you did. I’m sorry for your loss, as well as the OPs and everyone else who has lost a spouse; God knows there are a lot of you that are now widowers in GD |
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Quoted: It’s okay to let go brother. Enjoy what you have left you will see each other again. View Quote Attached File |
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@YoteSlayer69
Don’t let finances hold you back from counseling. There are free resources to help you deal with it. We (men) are not predisposed to talking things through, but I’m telling you, it can help. If nothing else, just view the counselor as a disinterested third party you can vent to, and maybe gain some fresh perspectives, and at the worst you were able to just get some stuff off your chest. https://findahelpline.com/us/il/topics/grief-loss |
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Would your wife want to to be happy living your life, or stay in a rut?
Get out there and live man she would want you to be happy. |
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First off, sorry for your loss, and I hate saying "loss", if she was a Christian, you didn't "lose" her, you know exactly where she is.
Re-read your wedding vows. Keep reading the last part, "till death do you part". It's okay to move on. I haven't experienced that kind of loss, but 2 years ago my MIL passed. Both my wife, and her dad, moved on rather quickly. I believe it was due to their faith. |
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OP, your late wife would want you to be in a place mentally and physically happy.
Paralysis does not prove love. |
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I’m sure she would want you to enjoy the rest of your life, I can also understand not wanting to start a relationship with someone else, but spending time with friends or going on vacation should be things you are doing that she would want you to do.
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Quoted: I’m recently windowed since May this year after 39 years together, following a three-year cycle of illness / hospitalization / surgeries. The unexpected, unforeseen, accidental cause of it all was tragic and unnecessary; she should still be here but isn’t. I thought I was prepared, but the finality of the end was a massive shock. I was in a fog of grief and suffering for three weeks, until I suddenly realized I was torturing myself with nostalgia. I kept looking at old photos, reading old love letters, thinking of her when she was young and beautiful & older and still beautiful, looking at her things, listening to old songs, smelling her perfumes, touching her clothing, smelling her scent on clothing she had worn. I was romanticizing the romance we had together. I decided to intentionally extract myself from the prison I was building involuntarily. So much of what I was mourning was actually already lost to the past, even before she passed away. I took down pictures that were constantly reminding me of the loss. I started cleaning out her things. I either gave it away, threw it away, or stored it in a special box of memories I’m keeping. I looked around the house and started re-making it into my space for my purposes. It’s freeing when you realize there’s no longer a committee or consultation involved in every domestic decision. She had dozens and dozens of scented candles, for example, which I never liked and now they are all gone and I have new closet space. Every closet I clean, every drawer I organize is therapy. I’m in control, not the grief. A big part of the recovery process, I think, is discovering the “you” instead of continuing to identify as the “us” that’s irretrievably gone. What are your goals & expectations? Who are you and who do you want to become? There’s power in finding a new sense of self and new purpose, a new identity. I’m indulging in my hobbies and interests, keeping my hands and my mind occupied. I bought a large tract of land and it’s a great source of purpose; to acquire it, manage and steward it, and be out there on it and in it. So, I think it’s important to not spend too much time just sitting and stewing, waiting and suffering. The key is to act and initiate the changes you want to see in yourself and your life. Of course, I miss her terribly and would give anything to have her back for a week, a day, a few hours. The pangs of grief come unexpectedly and without warning. What I do now is acknowledge it, honor it, indulge it for a bit, then intentionally disengage and find something worthwhile and distracting to go keep myself busy. I don’t have all the answers, but wanted to share some of the things I’m doing that seem to help. I’m still not super social as a solo operator, although I have made the effort to go to events & gatherings and to travel. It’s really good to be around people who know you and care for you, and want to help you get back to being “normal” again. At 60, I’m undecided on the topic of eventually seeing women. On the one hand, I miss the feminine influence in my life, and sex is still very much on my mind. On the other hand, do I want the new baggage and new complications, do I want to spend the time & emotional effort getting to know her family, or God forbid, what if I have to see her through a mortal illness and end up alone again? What if she’s a typical 60-year-old woman and hardly wants to have sex? What about financial entanglements? What about the risk of STDs? What about her ex’s and estranged past lovers and all that mess? I don’t know. One day at a time. Now excuse me…I need to go polish my motorcycle! View Quote This really resonates with me. Thank you for sharing |
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Again thank you all for your responses. It does help.
A different perspective from all of you. Some sound advice. I appreciate it |
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Before my wife died, she asked I remain single for 2 months.
It's been 4 years now. I think about her every day. She was my best friend. She'd want me to be happy and to move forward. Every one deals with death different. Do what feels good. If you're dealing with guilt, maybe get some counseling. Torturing yourself in her name isn't healthy, imo. There are no rules. Sincere condolences to you. |
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Again thank you all for your responses. It does help.
A different perspective from all of you. Some sound advice. I appreciate it |
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@OP
Sounds lame, but watch the movie UP (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1049413/) as it speaks directly to the dilemma you face. The movie will help you reflect on the exploring a new chapter of life knowing that your wife will still be with you in her own way and that she will be supporting you on your journey to enjoy your dreams that will pass you by if you continue on the path you currently find yourself on. Once you watch the movie, if you want some lighthearted laughs after watching a pretty heavy ending for you, enjoy the Dug Days shorts (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13624054/) if you have Disney+. |
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OP, been there, done that, still bear the scars.
My wife of 22 years died in 2018 after 10+ years of serious health issues. Original thread: Losing my wife. I was a hermit for 6 months after her death until a couple of good friends invited me out for drinks and I reluctantly accepted. They had set me up with a single coworker and I ended up meeting my new wife (we got married last year). You eventually need to move forward. My first wife and I talked about moving on if one of us died, we knew her days were numbered but, there was always the chance I would die first and we both agreed that wallowing in self-pity wouldn't help either of us. Never forget, but you still have a lifetime ahead of you. |
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A female friend sent me an article "Four Ways to Make Grief More Bearable" and I found it helpful. I naturally was implementing techniques 1, 2, and 4. #3 is a bit of a puzzler to me. Maybe it would help some people but for me doing the old rituals would not be a way forward.
This is a link to photos of the pages that I made as a hidden post on imgur as a free hosting site. Sometime their post links don't work right...if so, let me know and I'll just load them as a post here. |
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OP you can live your life that way if you want.
It’s a free country. If you want my opinion, you need to rub some dirt on it and walk it off. Your behavior is borne out of fear. Overcome your fears, or be ruled by them. Your choice. |
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My grandfather felt guilty over things said and unsaid to my grandmother. I think that's why it took him so long to actually go out and do something.
I really wish I he had forgiven himself sooner. Thank God that they are together again. |
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Yeah OP, another semi-hermit checking in. The combination of family, cancer and other health issues have kept me in place since my wife died in 2021. Radiation and chemo have taken a toll on me. I've outlived the estimate I was given in Aug 2021.
I do get out a little. Drive a couple of hours to check on my mother, or to visit my daughter and grandson. Stay with my sister-in-law for a few days - she's also a widowed hermit. She took good care of me during my industrial strength chemo. With my health issues, I have no interest in any serious relationship with anyone else. I sit alone in the nice large old house in the good suburb. The house where everything and everyone died but me. Don't really want to leave... |
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Quoted: @OP Sounds lame, but watch the movie UP (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1049413/) as it speaks directly to the dilemma you face. The movie will help you reflect on the exploring a new chapter of life knowing that your wife will still be with you in her own way and that she will be supporting you on your journey to enjoy your dreams that will pass you by if you continue on the path you currently find yourself on. Once you watch the movie, if you want some lighthearted laughs after watching a pretty heavy ending for you, enjoy the Dug Days shorts (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13624054/) if you have Disney+. View Quote Looks like I skipped by your post. Consider my first post in this thread a +1. |
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OP, my brother lost his wife a few months ago to cancer and booze. All of us siblings talk to him every week. He made his annual trek to Ohio to visit Mom and our sister. She lost her husband six weeks before. She asked him what he had been doing since she died. He shrugged his shoulders and said, "Nothing!" She ripped him a new hole. "Get off your ass, Clean her things out unless you plan to wear them. Keep a couple of momentoes and give the rest to the kids." He laughed for the first time. It was a page-turning moment. She continued, "Enjoy the family you have. You have three daughters and a slew of grandkids. They still need adult supervision."
It is true. The sorrow will fade in time but the family still here still need you too. |
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Much like it’s hard to hit the gym after a hiatus, you must force yourself to go.
We only have one life. Enjoy the world before it’s too late. |
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My Dad said that I had said something after my mom passed that helped... I had told my Dad that he had promised to love and cherish mom until death did them part. I told my dad that he had fulfilled his obligation and that he should move on. He shortly thereafter move to another state to get a change of scenery and to get out of "moms house". I know that he talked to a few women after mom, but I don't know if anything came of it. He passed earlier this year.
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My ex and I are finally separated. I already met someone, may be nothing, we will see. Should of divorced my ex 4 years ago so I am ready for happiness.
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OP if I were you I would:
1. Move out of Illinois. 2. Get a therapist. 3. Travel to someplace else, someplace that's very different from Illinois. Maybe Sri Lanka. 4. Meet some younger women, but be very careful who you get into a relationship with (see #2). |
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Quoted: It’s okay to let go brother. Enjoy what you have left you will see each other again. View Quote Attached File |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: It’s common enough that they made a movie about it. You aren’t alone. The movie is called Up. Ugh. Can't watch it. I actually watched it a long time ago. I did too. Once. That's all I can do. I also stop Forrest Gump before the final scene at Jenny's grave. Reminds me too much of my son crying and yelling, "It's not fair I only got her for 10 years." |
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You are trapping yourself in the grief rather than letting it pass.
If you are a faithful man, take counsel with your clergy. The Bible has some things to say here too. |
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I lost my wife in 2021 I am getting married again in Oct.
My late wife Marsha wanted me to be happy and to live my life. I will never stop loving her but I refuse to feel guilty that she was taken from me. |
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I know a person. A sort of famous person. Lost their wife some years back and their life now seems to revolve around a memorial to their deceased spouse.
I couldn't live that way. I do not think they are happy or even very joyful, living like that, and I think their deceased spouse would want them to love on. I love my wife, and my life with her, and tremble at the thought of losing her or trying to 'move on'. But I think it would be for the best, and believe that biblically there is no reason to hold on to the past; marriage is supposed to last for life - but not beyond that. |
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Quoted: It’s okay to let go brother. Enjoy what you have left you will see each other again. View Quote Maybe close your eyes and ask her “is it ok for me to move on?” What would you say to her if the situation was reversed and she asked you? Hang in there brother. I can’t even imagine the pain |
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