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Posted: 7/16/2021 1:38:55 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Your house is likely infested as well as the dog. Treating the dog only will be only a temporary solution, and she'll get infested again. You gotta treat the whole house, and the dog too. Yep. And in all likelihood it's going to take you a couple of months to get it under control if you do everything right. |
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Posted: 7/16/2021 1:40:06 PM EST
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Fleas or skin allergies?
For the fleas one of the many pills, bomb your house, vacuum vacuum vacuum, bomb it again. Skin allergies may require a change in diet. Have you looked into something like Dinovite? It’s supposed to help with skin allergies. |
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Posted: 7/16/2021 1:42:30 PM EST
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Wouldn't a cone help the dog stop biting herself until the bugs die off or go away?
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Posted: 7/16/2021 1:42:52 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 100% as well as vacuuming daily while the chemical works. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Your house is likely infested as well as the dog. Treating the dog only will be only a temporary solution, and she'll get infested again. You gotta treat the whole house, and the dog too. This You have flea eggs in your carpet/rugs furniture etc. you MUST vacuum EVERY DAY until the fleas are gone. Treat the dog, the yard, the house and vacuum. The vibration of the vacuum cleaner stimulates the eggs to hatch. You vacuum the eggs and larvae and ditch the bag in the trash every day until fleas are gone. |
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Posted: 7/16/2021 1:43:19 PM EST
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I have a border collie who gets very itchy when given certain foods, he gets lamb and rice dog food now. He is also on monthly pills, not sure which one.
I treat my yard with pyrethrin spray mixed to the correct levels, bought it on amazon as concentrate for termites. Lots of talk about doing it on here, so it should be an easy search. Treat the dog, spray the yard, spray the house etc. If they are not jumping on you as you walk around in the house its probably pretty clear, same with the yard. I had a lab mix years ago that developed allergies from a flee infestation, even when the fleas where gone he was messed up. Only thing that helped was prednisone, but that was short term. |
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Posted: 7/16/2021 1:43:37 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Soresto not the go-to anymore? Kills everything except the dog. We've been using them for years with great results. All bought from Amazon. This last round (4 dogs) has me thinking we got some fake ones. I have found more live ticks on the outside dog and the inside dogs are scratching more than usual. I haven't found any fleas, but I have had a couple of bites on my ankles that may be flea. |
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Posted: 7/16/2021 1:45:46 PM EST
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Advantage II for the dog and Zodiac spray for the house.
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Posted: 7/16/2021 1:46:52 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Your house is likely infested as well as the dog. Treating the dog only will be only a temporary solution, and she'll get infested again. You gotta treat the whole house, and the dog too. And vacuum twice a day to get all the eggs in the house. |
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Posted: 7/16/2021 1:49:52 PM EST
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Quoted: We took her to the vet months ago, he gave us a $120.00 bill along with some shampoo and a pill which supposed to kill all fleas and ticks. All to no avail! Poor girl is eating herself alive. Yeah, the stuff kills what is on her . . . but what about something that REPELLS the fleas and ticks? There has got to be something to make our dog not so tasty to fleas and ticks. We did all that Hippy organic stuff formulas which did not work either. Dog guys, what do you use to REPELL fleas and ticks from getting on your dogs in the first place? HELP!!! Oh, we live out in the country so spraying the yard is not an option unless we use Agent Orange. The vet didn't recommend treating your house or an ongoing preventative flea product to use on the dog? If the above is true, when you get this sorted out, I recommend finding a different vet and to get your dog checked for heart worms. Fleas are where they come from. |
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Posted: 7/16/2021 2:03:33 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You took your dog to a vet with a flea infestation and the vet told you a one time pill and shampoo would solve the problem? The vet didn't recommend treating your house or an ongoing preventative flea product to use on the dog? If the above is true, when you get this sorted out, I recommend finding a different vet and to get your dog checked for heart worms. Fleas are where they come from. Yep. Vet gave you bad advice. Unfortunately, the pupae stage of the flea life-cycle is pretty much impervious to anything short of incineration so until they all hatch, you're going to have a near constant infestation. Even as the chemicals on your dog and properly are killing them off. For immediate relief for the dog, give it a bath in water + Dawn dish soap. The Dawn will reduce the surface tension so the fleas get properly drowned. The bath needs to be full enough to nearly submerge the dog. Probably good to have 2 people. You'll have to hold the dog as much underwater as you can except (obviously) for mouth, eyes and nose for 2 to 3 min to drown all the fleas while using a flea comb to get the ones that will be crawling up the dog's neck and head to stay above the water. You'll also see all the dry blood flakes in the water as they'll look like tiny drops of red food-coloring. For the house (and probably exterior too) you'll need to use a multi-prong approach. Interior: start with a full-on bombing using something like CB80. Everyone and all pets will have to be out of the house for 2 to 3 hours. Then hit all the cracks and crevices with a combination of knockdown agent like Termidor along with an IGR like Precore. Be thorough and plan on re-treating at least every 30 days for the next 3 months. For exterior, use the same stuff as inside except do a full spray along the entire foundation 16" up and out from the base of the foundation. Pay special attention to gaps around doors and windows. If you live in a warm climate with sandy soil, you may need to coat the whole yard anywhere near where the dog can go. Also, are you and your family noticing bug bites around your ankles? Very bad infestations will have fleas biting people along with pets. |
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Posted: 7/16/2021 2:04:29 PM EST
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After treating the animals and using bombs apply Bifen indoors and outdoors.
https://www.solutionsstores.com/bifen-it-insecticide |
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Posted: 7/16/2021 2:11:40 PM EST
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Do they no longer make flea collars?
Also, you’ll need to treat your house and yard for fleas. |
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Posted: 7/16/2021 2:15:29 PM EST
[#13]
DOES SHE LIKE THE WATER? DOES SHE LIKE TO SWIM? HOW FAR ARE YOU FROM EXIT 124 ON INTERSTATE 81 IN PA? BRING HER UP HERE, WE HAVE WATER PITS FILLED WITH SULPHUR WATER. WE TAKE OUR DOGS SWIMMING AND IT KILLS THE FLEAS AND IS GOOD FOR CUTS AND RASHES. I HAVE A HEAT RASH, 20 MINUTES IN THE WATER AND ITS GONE. PM ME IF INTERESTED. ILL SEND MY CONTACT INFO.
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Posted: 7/16/2021 2:15:53 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: She's a Collie, border Collie mix, used to run free range here before we took her in. I'm talking a running dog, there are about 1,000 acres around here she was free to run on . . . . now, she will not go out of the house. No joke, she will not leave the AC! All she does is bite and chew herself, scratch all night and day long. We just can't figure how a free running dog that lived in the wild will not go out side anymore. The other night my wife put a leash on her and had to drag her out side to go do her business. The dog is 47 pounds and about 2 years old. The most powerful little dog I've ever seen. When she lays down and does her "Dead Dog Act" you cannot move her. My cousin has a John Deere 4 wheel tractor and I bet this dog can out pull it! Help!!! So - inside, vacuum....vacuum...vacuum. It'll actually knock down the flea population pretty well. Eggs and larvae need to be vacuumed up. Plan on doing it daily, or a couple of times a day. Lay down diatomaceous earth in the carpeting, it'll get vacuumed up a bit but it'll still help control the population. Flea comb the dog, couple of times a day. Regular bath will help too, shampoo and water will kill the fleas on her. Outside, I'd spray with a pyrethrin based area spray. Biggest issue with fleas is they get concentrated in areas the dog is in, and then the population skyrockets. I'm not a fan of collars, systemic poisons, dips, sprays, etc. Lots of lymphoma, hemangiosarcoma, etc out there in dogs, and I'm fairly certain poisons are a causative factor. |
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Posted: 7/16/2021 2:18:38 PM EST
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@RV-1
I used this when I lived in Florida daily, fleas were really bad in our neighborhood and it kept them off my dog. https://www.adamspetcare.com/products/home/flea-and-tick-home-spray |
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Posted: 7/16/2021 2:20:49 PM EST
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Permithrin/Pyrethrins aren't having an effect on fleas around here.
I had to use a product with imidacloprid on our work dog. We have a commercial nursery and we have a 60 gallon commercial nursery sprayer and mixed up a max dose of Talstar P and bombed the shit out of everything. And then I bombed everything again with Advion and Adept IGR. I also sprayed Advion inside our building (READ THE LABEL). It's kept them at bay for the last 30 days, but one of my employees were complaining they got bit by fleas again working on the edge of the property this week. So if your dog roams, she's just gonna keep bringing them back to you unless you treat her ass directly and often. |
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Posted: 7/16/2021 2:24:22 PM EST
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Your house is likely infested as well as the dog. Treating the dog only will be only a temporary solution, and she'll get infested again. You gotta treat the whole house, and the dog too. And the yard. 
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Posted: 7/16/2021 2:24:30 PM EST
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: DOES SHE LIKE THE WATER? DOES SHE LIKE TO SWIM? HOW FAR ARE YOU FROM EXIT 124 ON INTERSTATE 81 IN PA? BRING HER UP HERE, WE HAVE WATER PITS FILLED WITH SULPHUR WATER. WE TAKE OUR DOGS SWIMMING AND IT KILLS THE FLEAS AND IS GOOD FOR CUTS AND RASHES. I HAVE A HEAT RASH, 20 MINUTES IN THE WATER AND ITS GONE. PM ME IF INTERESTED. ILL SEND MY CONTACT INFO. What kind of sulfur water do use for a parlor dog? |
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Posted: 7/16/2021 2:25:32 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What kind of sulfur water do use for a parlor dog? |
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Posted: 7/16/2021 2:26:40 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Permithrin/Pyrethrins aren't having an effect on fleas around here. I had to use a product with imidacloprid on our work dog. We have a commercial nursery and we have a 60 gallon commercial nursery sprayer and mixed up a max dose of Talstar P and bombed the shit out of everything. And then I bombed everything again with Advion and Adept IGR. I also sprayed Advion inside our building (READ THE LABEL). It's kept them at bay for the last 30 days, but one of my employees were complaining they got bit by fleas again working on the edge of the property this week. So if your dog roams, she's just gonna keep bringing them back to you unless you treat her ass directly and often. Good strategy and products.  And while the dogs bring fleas back as you say, you're only getting the adults and you're killing them before they can kick-start the life cycle.
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Posted: 7/16/2021 2:29:31 PM EST
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If it is fleas and not a skin issue you will see her stomach and under her arms covered in brown flea shit.
There is no real solution the I ever found to work. Flea powder on the carpeting and daily vacuum cleaning with a good vacuum Thank God we don't have them in Phoenix, it is so hot and dry that the larval stage withers and dies. |
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Posted: 7/16/2021 2:37:18 PM EST
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Fleas or skin allergies? For the fleas one of the many pills, bomb your house, vacuum vacuum vacuum, bomb it again. Skin allergies may require a change in diet. Have you looked into something like Dinovite? It’s supposed to help with skin allergies. look for dried blood flakes/flea dirt. Brush the dog over a damp paper towel and should make it pretty evident.  If you see this, 100% it's fleas. |
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Posted: 7/16/2021 2:50:04 PM EST
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Quoted: We took her to the vet months ago, he gave us a $120.00 bill along with some shampoo and a pill which supposed to kill all fleas and ticks. All to no avail! Poor girl is eating herself alive. Yeah, the stuff kills what is on her . . . but what about something that REPELLS the fleas and ticks? There has got to be something to make our dog not so tasty to fleas and ticks. We did all that Hippy organic stuff formulas which did not work either. Dog guys, what do you use to REPELL fleas and ticks from getting on your dogs in the first place? HELP!!! Oh, we live out in the country so spraying the yard is not an option unless we use Agent Orange. Ours takes Nexgard once a month. It’s magic. |
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Posted: 7/16/2021 2:54:00 PM EST
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We uses a heartworm/flea pill from the vet called Trifexis and it really works good, the Diatomaceous Earth worked into the carpet bedding etc then vacuum up helps to get them out of the house. For the yard try some permethrin you can spray it around the perimeter of the house and it will kill fleas and ticks and lots of other critters to so don't over do it.
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Posted: 7/16/2021 2:55:30 PM EST
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: She's a Collie, border Collie mix, used to run free range here before we took her in. I'm talking a running dog, there are about 1,000 acres around here she was free to run on . . . . now, she will not go out of the house. No joke, she will not leave the AC! All she does is bite and chew herself, scratch all night and day long. We just can't figure how a free running dog that lived in the wild will not go out side anymore. The other night my wife put a leash on her and had to drag her out side to go do her business. The dog is 47 pounds and about 2 years old. The most powerful little dog I've ever seen. When she lays down and does her "Dead Dog Act" you cannot move her. My cousin has a John Deere 4 wheel tractor and I bet this dog can out pull it! Help!!! Have you seen a flea? Our old dog was allergic to corn. If she ate food with corn she would get all itchy and chew places raw. |
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Posted: 7/16/2021 2:58:05 PM EST
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You need to use the pill once monthly or as directed. Treat inside the house and the yard and any other pets you have. |
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Posted: 7/16/2021 3:05:53 PM EST
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: @RV-1 I used this when I lived in Florida daily, fleas were really bad in our neighborhood and it kept them off my dog. https://www.adamspetcare.com/products/home/flea-and-tick-home-spray ^^^^^^Amongst everything else you should be doing, I came here to post this. Keep a couple bottles around, works great. |
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Posted: 7/16/2021 3:07:48 PM EST
[#28]
You’ll probably need to different meds. I don’t recall which flea meds I was giving my dog, but it only lasted a short time. The vet then gave me comfortis. Dog gets the second med after two weeks from the first. So basically each meds is given once a month just two weeks apart so the dogs gets flea meds every two weeks. Did the trick. After two months I stopped both and went back to just one e dry thirty days. Ask your vet.
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Posted: 7/16/2021 3:09:08 PM EST
[#29]
Also Dawn helps to drown fleas and eggs when using a wash tub.
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Posted: 7/16/2021 3:35:24 PM EST
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Also Dawn helps to drown fleas and eggs when using a wash tub. We used regular human baby shampoo at the shops I used to work at. |
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Posted: 7/16/2021 3:43:09 PM EST
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If she is chewing herself, it might be skin allergies and not just fleas. The allergies might be caused by fleas or by something else. As a side note, one of our dogs gets terrible skin allergies from unknown sources. She does not have fleas. She is on the maximum dose of apoquel for her weight and still had problems until we switched her to costco/Kirkland's grain free salmon based food and started supplementing her with a tablespoon of salmon oil on her food once a day. You may want to try a salmon food with salmon oil. My dog's coat looks nicer too. This, she is allergic to the flee bites and then chews on herself. Find a different vet that will treat her for her allergies. |
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Posted: 7/16/2021 3:47:47 PM EST
[#32]
Bravecto from the vet works great for the dogs and cat
ETA: Chewables for the dogs and some kind of topical for the cat |
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Posted: 7/16/2021 3:50:04 PM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Get the dog on a flea medication (oral or injectible) and then there's no flea problem. VASTLY easier than treating the lawn, house, shampoos and bs. Simparica Trio is what I use...heartworm, flea and tick in one chewable. This. I don't know if we're using this exact product, but we do use a chewable and it works well. The dog before these two had a Seresto collar and it worked well. We'd have gone with that on our current dogs, but they're young and they still play a lot. I doubt Seresto will hold up to the abuse until they settle down. Used Avantix and Frontline in the past and both worked well. The wife just liked the no fuss simplicity of Seresto better. |
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Posted: 7/16/2021 3:50:40 PM EST
[#34]
I bought a Seresto Flea and Tick Collar for our girl. I haven't put it on her yet, as we aren't having a problem. I got it mostly for traveling to TN and PA.
Like others have said, just treating your pup is only half the battle. You need to treat the inside and outside of your house to get a handle on the problem. Then treat a second time after 7 days (I think)... or is it 14 days? It should say on the product you use. |
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Posted: 7/16/2021 4:29:58 PM EST
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: DOES SHE LIKE THE WATER? DOES SHE LIKE TO SWIM? HOW FAR ARE YOU FROM EXIT 124 ON INTERSTATE 81 IN PA? BRING HER UP HERE, WE HAVE WATER PITS FILLED WITH SULPHUR WATER. WE TAKE OUR DOGS SWIMMING AND IT KILLS THE FLEAS AND IS GOOD FOR CUTS AND RASHES. I HAVE A HEAT RASH, 20 MINUTES IN THE WATER AND ITS GONE. PM ME IF INTERESTED. ILL SEND MY CONTACT INFO. You have to use this treatment, if only to see the parlor stove. BIG BITES BURN BIG DOGS. |
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Posted: 7/16/2021 4:49:46 PM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If the above is true, when you get this sorted out, I recommend finding a different vet and to get your dog checked for heart worms. Fleas are where they come from. Heartworms are transmitted by mosquitos, not fleas. Tapeworms can come from fleas, though. |
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Posted: 7/16/2021 4:49:48 PM EST
[#37]
Once I read indoor dog now it's you house that's infested not the dog.
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Posted: 7/16/2021 4:50:02 PM EST
[#38]
It's not just a magic pill or shampoo and you're done.
You have to spray the ENTIRE yard. Multiple times. Under all the bushes, on and under lawn furniture, every square inch. If your dog has fleas then it's picking them up from somewhere. Treat your house. Multiple times. Daily for a week, then every 2-3 days for a month. It takes 30 days to break the egg cycle. Vacuum daily and discard the bags. Get in all the corners, baseboard cracks, everywhere. Flea eggs can survive many spray treatments intact. You will need to bathe the dog daily or at least every other day with consumer dip and weekly with pro level stuff. For five weeks. Get something like Comboguard or Bravecto for the doggo. Add Frontline or Advantix II topically. You're in for a long battle if it's an infestation like that. |
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Posted: 7/16/2021 4:52:30 PM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Literally tons of products. I use Advantix 2, but there are lots of other ones out there. Frontline, Bravecto, Simparica, comfortis, and on and on and on. +1 and some have heartworm preventative as well if that's common in the OP's area. eta: if the OP goes for a monthly edible preventative he can skip the shampoo and pills as they wont be needed. |
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Posted: 7/16/2021 4:54:09 PM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I thought he said he tried that kind of stuff but it didn't work? Flea and tick monthly treatments worked on our doggie but he said the pills didn't work for his doggie. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Literally tons of products. I use Advantix 2, but there are lots of other ones out there. Frontline, Bravecto, Simparica, comfortis, and on and on and on. I thought he said he tried that kind of stuff but it didn't work? Flea and tick monthly treatments worked on our doggie but he said the pills didn't work for his doggie. the "pills" were likely a one dose kill shot, I forget the name of them but it's about $2 a pill, it's for spot treatment for strays, infestations, and things like that but has no lasting effects past 24 hours. |
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Posted: 7/16/2021 4:55:56 PM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's not just a magic pill or shampoo and you're done. You have to spray the ENTIRE yard. Multiple times. Under all the bushes, on and under lawn furniture, every square inch. If your dog has fleas then it's picking them up from somewhere. Treat your house. Multiple times. Daily for a week, then every 2-3 days for a month. It takes 30 days to break the egg cycle. Vacuum daily and discard the bags. Get in all the corners, baseboard cracks, everywhere. Flea eggs can survive many spray treatments intact. You will need to bathe the dog daily or at least every other day with consumer dip and weekly with pro level stuff. For five weeks. Get something like Comboguard or Bravecto for the doggo. Add Frontline or Advantix II topically. You're in for a long battle if it's an infestation like that. Sometimes it's worth it to just hire a pro and get a hotel room for a few days . There are chemicals and sprays that will reach the eggs and break the cycle but you won't want to be sleeping in your home that night. |
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Posted: 7/16/2021 4:57:42 PM EST
[#42]
Get a Seresto collar
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Posted: 7/16/2021 6:56:01 PM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We've been using them for years with great results. All bought from Amazon. This last round (4 dogs) has me thinking we got some fake ones. I have found more live ticks on the outside dog and the inside dogs are scratching more than usual. I haven't found any fleas, but I have had a couple of bites on my ankles that may be flea. I stopped buying them from amazon. In fact, I rarely buy anything there because of all the fake chinese shit. |
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Posted: 7/16/2021 7:02:52 PM EST
[#44]
Do you not spray your home and yard?
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Posted: 7/16/2021 9:07:12 PM EST
[#45]
I live out in the country too. How is spraying not an option?
I use this:  Filled with this. That bucket makes 30 gallons which is enough to very thoroughly do 3 acres as well as house foundation. Stuff kills everything - ticks, fleas, spiders, ants, you name it. The longer it's without rain after you apply it, the more time it has to work. No rain for 5-7 days after application is ideal. I do Spring when the bugs all first start emerging, right before July 4th for my party, then late Summer. |
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Posted: 7/16/2021 9:18:38 PM EST
[#46]
My last house had a huge flea problem. The yard was swimming with them. They would hitch a ride into the house on you and the dog. The only thing that worked was the SORESTO Collar.
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Posted: 7/16/2021 9:19:59 PM EST
[#47]
When fleas popped up this year we gave Bravecto. One pill lasts 3 mos. It worked, fleas are gone. If you environment is heavily infested, we used Talstar for the yard years ago and something for inside. Worked well.
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Posted: 7/16/2021 9:20:21 PM EST
[#48]
Avon’s Skin So Soft works really well at keeping fleas off of dogs.
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Posted: 7/16/2021 9:22:46 PM EST
[#49]
Vets best flea and tick spray worked for my dog
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Posted: 7/16/2021 9:24:09 PM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Was the pill Bravecto? That works well for us, but we don't have grass. A flea comb makes a good first step. You can mechanically remove a ton of fleas that way. Our golden had the same problem in Florida. Just the environment. You can kill every flea on the dog, and if the yard isn't treated they're going to drag in a whole new infestation every time they go outside. |
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