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Posted: 12/15/2021 2:41:26 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, it is kind of his fault, and he refuses to go away. Annnnnnnnnnnd I'm done . Good day to you |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 2:48:15 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm not gonna argue against your bumpstock point but as far as your children's children's etc wallets well that pillaging has been going on well before Trump's 4 years . Biden is president now and in case you haven't noticed he wants your children's children to own nothing and like it . Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: He touched my bumpstock and he touched my children's, my children's children and my children's children's children in their wallets. I'm not gonna argue against your bumpstock point but as far as your children's children's etc wallets well that pillaging has been going on well before Trump's 4 years . Biden is president now and in case you haven't noticed he wants your children's children to own nothing and like it . It would have been nice if Trump and the Republicans hadn't added shit tons more spending. |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 2:48:36 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Look at the disaster happening to the country right now by this train wreck of an "administration". Yet the N_T's are still focused on Trump, who's been out of office for nearly a year. Bizarre. The economic disaster… the one that has been brewing for a decade… the one that was kicked off in March of 2020? |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 2:50:37 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Given that he’s a middle-aged man, who is too afraid to speak up to daddy, and given that his most notable accomplishment over the past decade has been slurping Gavin Newsom’s sloppy seconds out of his hag girlfriend; I’m not a fan. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So, I haven't read the whole thing. Have we PNG'd Don Jr. now or is it still OK to like him? Given that he’s a middle-aged man, who is too afraid to speak up to daddy, and given that his most notable accomplishment over the past decade has been slurping Gavin Newsom’s sloppy seconds out of his hag girlfriend; I’m not a fan.  Attached FileHe did run the 2nd Amendment Coalition as well. |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 2:54:09 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It would have been nice if Trump and the Republicans hadn't added shit tons more spending. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: He touched my bumpstock and he touched my children's, my children's children and my children's children's children in their wallets. I'm not gonna argue against your bumpstock point but as far as your children's children's etc wallets well that pillaging has been going on well before Trump's 4 years . Biden is president now and in case you haven't noticed he wants your children's children to own nothing and like it . It would have been nice if Trump and the Republicans hadn't added shit tons more spending. Trump and friends in congress kicked off the economic disaster/inflation/labor shortages we are seeing today when they passed those socialism bills last year. Other important points are that the FY2020 budget deficit BEFORE Covid was back to 2012 levels… that’s right 2012 deficit levels. They were spending as hard as they could to keep the Mf from kabooming. Muh greatest economy ever!!! Then along comes covid with even more deficit spending to pump the economy. Now the water heads are all ‘iT’s ALL XidEnS FauLt!’. Like did you really expect a dementia patient democrat to be more conservative than Trump? LoL. He’s simply kicking the can down the road. Wether you like it or not, ALL of them are COMPLICiT in this country’s destruction. Including the morons who vote for these charlatans. |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 2:54:37 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/50674/DJTjr_png-2205119.JPG He did run the 2nd Amendment Coalition as well. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: So, I haven't read the whole thing. Have we PNG'd Don Jr. now or is it still OK to like him? Given that he’s a middle-aged man, who is too afraid to speak up to daddy, and given that his most notable accomplishment over the past decade has been slurping Gavin Newsom’s sloppy seconds out of his hag girlfriend; I’m not a fan. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/50674/DJTjr_png-2205119.JPG He did run the 2nd Amendment Coalition as well. That never gets old 
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Posted: 12/15/2021 3:00:28 PM EST
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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/jan-6-committee-admits-to-altering-text-message-between-mark-meadows-and-jim-jordan
I'm shocked. But not really. Dog & pony show |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 3:04:45 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not really, because what I'm saying is that he failed his most ardent followers. There are really only 3 choices here: 1. This was all a leftist setup and a couple of thousand of the stupidest people on the planet managed to take the bait and enter the capital. In that case, Trump abandoned them to prosecution by not pardoning them. 2. This thing got completely out of control and was never intended to go down this way. Again, Trump did nothing to help his own people and ran for political cover as soon as he could. 3. Trump really did intend to have people "stop the steal" by taking control of the capital building, but he did such an abysmal job of executing the plan and being a leader that it all fell apart and imploded. All three of those scenarios speak very poorly of him, IMHO. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: How many people have been charged with Sedition or Insurrection? Wow. You aren't even pretending. You are 100% in lockstep with Pelosi and Cheney. There are really only 3 choices here: 1. This was all a leftist setup and a couple of thousand of the stupidest people on the planet managed to take the bait and enter the capital. In that case, Trump abandoned them to prosecution by not pardoning them. 2. This thing got completely out of control and was never intended to go down this way. Again, Trump did nothing to help his own people and ran for political cover as soon as he could. 3. Trump really did intend to have people "stop the steal" by taking control of the capital building, but he did such an abysmal job of executing the plan and being a leader that it all fell apart and imploded. All three of those scenarios speak very poorly of him, IMHO. Wow. You ALSO regurgitate the lines that are crafted to divide the right. You know damned well that YOU did not want Trump to pardon those folks. You believe none of your "only 3 choices" |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 3:14:11 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Which is worse, hating someone that you used to love because they betrayed you or being a battered spouse who keeps making excuses for the person that beats them up? Brain-puking out a Straw Man argument is far worse, IMHO. That aside, you're far too emotionally invested in a guy you've never met. Borders on straight-up creepy, even. I had an extreme dislike of Obama the politician, but I never hated Obama the man. Or his wife. Or his daughters. I posit that you hate every human with the surname "Trump", and all the rest of the red-hat crew to boot. Amiright? |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 3:17:05 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Brain-puking out a Straw Man argument is far worse, IMHO. That aside, you're far too emotionally invested in a guy you've never met. Borders on straight-up creepy, even. I had an extreme dislike of Obama the politician, but I never hated Obama the man. Or his wife. Or his daughters. I posit that you hate every human with the surname "Trump", and all the rest of the red-hat crew to boot. Amiright? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Which is worse, hating someone that you used to love because they betrayed you or being a battered spouse who keeps making excuses for the person that beats them up? Brain-puking out a Straw Man argument is far worse, IMHO. That aside, you're far too emotionally invested in a guy you've never met. Borders on straight-up creepy, even. I had an extreme dislike of Obama the politician, but I never hated Obama the man. Or his wife. Or his daughters. I posit that you hate every human with the surname "Trump", and all the rest of the red-hat crew to boot. Amiright? 13% of Trump voters in 2016 voted for Obama in 2012. Are you one of those intellectual scholars? |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 3:20:18 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, it is kind of his fault, and he refuses to go away. Negative. You just refuse to let him go, probably because it helps you rationalize your vote for the dementia patient. Your battered spouse analogy makes more sense to me now. |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 3:20:26 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wow. You ALSO regurgitate the lines that are crafted to divide the right. You know damned well that YOU did not want Trump to pardon those folks. You believe none of your "only 3 choices" I also think that Trump probably realized pretty quickly that he had completely lost control of the situation and that the rabble were causing harm to his future political aspirations. I think he was looking for some way to balance not pissing off his supporters while containing the damage. I think the thing that made him hesitate as long as he did was trying to figure out that balance. |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 3:27:41 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 13% of Trump voters in 2016 voted for Obama in 2012. Are you one of those intellectual scholars? Nope. Thought about it briefly because I wasn't a fan of Songbird McCain, but then I read both of Obama's books that were out at that time. That peek under the hood revealed his deeply-ingrained Marxism, which I can't abide. Still don't hate the guy, because hate is a destructive emotion, and one to be avoided. You should try it sometime... |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 3:32:25 PM EST
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You are starting to thread slide as the issue isn't Twitter's deletion policy. Plus I will add, most of the Twitter hashtags calling for violence against Trump are Trump supporters complaining about it. Go do a search on Twitter. It's mostly Trump supporters using the hashtags with screen shotted pics of deleted tweets. It's like the n-word. If you want people to stop using, then stop using it. |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 3:35:15 PM EST
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I never said I wanted him to do anything. I'm merely pointing out that he failed to do what people would have hoped or expected him to do if he actually gave a flip about his followers. As for what I think? I believe this entire episode was an ill-conceived public relation stunt. I think he knows that he lost fair and square but absolutely could not admit it because it would have tarnished his brand. I think the people who adored him, who I am at least empathetic towards, showed up to his PR stunt because they believed that they could actually accomplish something because they had been told that they would if they came. I think a leaderless mob then got out of control and I think that the Capital Police responded in a variety of different ways depending on where people where in the capital complex. I think some of them let folks in, while others fought to keep people out. I think there were bad actors in that crowd from both the left and the right that were intent on creating chaos. I think the Capital Police did a horrible job at trying to control that mob. I also think that Trump probably realized pretty quickly that he had completely lost control of the situation and that the rabble were causing harm to his future political aspirations. I think he was looking for some way to balance not pissing off his supporters while containing the damage. I think the thing that made him hesitate as long as he did was trying to figure out that balance. Is your Cognitive Dissonance physically painful? Seems like you've got 3 or maybe 4 voices clamoring between your ears. Mayhap that's why there's so darn much H8 issuing forth. |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 3:37:33 PM EST
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, it is kind of his fault, and he refuses to go away. He's not going away just because you personally want him to. |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 3:40:52 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nope. Thought about it briefly because I wasn't a fan of Songbird McCain, but then I read both of Obama's books that were out at that time. That peek under the hood revealed his deeply-ingrained Marxism, which I can't abide. Still don't hate the guy, because hate is a destructive emotion, and one to be avoided. You should try that sometime... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: 13% of Trump voters in 2016 voted for Obama in 2012. Are you one of those intellectual scholars? Nope. Thought about it briefly because I wasn't a fan of Songbird McCain, but then I read both of Obama's books that were out at that time. That peek under the hood revealed his deeply-ingrained Marxism, which I can't abide. Still don't hate the guy, because hate is a destructive emotion, and one to be avoided. You should try that sometime... Appreciate your honesty  . Curious what percentage of Trump voters (like you) ‘considered’ voting for Obama in ‘12. It really sheds light on why so many of the fervent supporters of these demagogues don’t really have many principles or values they wouldn’t roll over on their bellies to give up. Personally I’m pretty solid in my beliefs and values so I never even considered voting for McCain, Obama, Clinton, Trump, Biden etc. as to me they are all one in the same. So far I’ve been right. That doesn’t mean I ‘hate’ those people, I just don’t vote for or support people who erode the Bill of Rights & grow the scope of government. |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 3:45:27 PM EST
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol. Most Republicans want him to run again. A new poll just came out which shows Trump is far more admired than Biden. He's not going away just because you personally want him to. |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 3:47:42 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol. Most Republicans want him to run again. A new poll just came out which shows Trump is far more admired than Biden. He's not going away just because you personally want him to. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Well, it is kind of his fault, and he refuses to go away. He's not going away just because you personally want him to. Most wanted daddy Don to send more checks as well. |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 4:02:38 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Appreciate your honesty . Curious what percentage of Trump voters (like you) ‘considered’ voting for Obama in ‘12. It really sheds light on why so many of the fervent supporters of these demagogues don’t really have many principles or values they wouldn’t roll over on their bellies to give up. Personally I’m pretty solid in my beliefs and values so I never even considered voting for McCain, Obama, Clinton, Trump, Biden etc. as to me they are all one in the same. So far I’ve been right. That doesn’t mean I ‘hate’ those people, I just don’t vote for or support people who erode the Bill of Rights & grow the scope of government. And I appreciate your appreciation in kind! While I applaud your standing by your beliefs and values, as the Canadian rock band "Rush" once opined, "If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice". In this day in time, a vote not cast against a demonstrably Marxist left is a vote for said Marxist left. Choose wisely..... |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 4:06:03 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And I appreciate your appreciation in kind! While I applaud your standing by your beliefs and values, as the Canadian rock band "Rush" once opined, "If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice". In this day in time, a vote not cast against a demonstrably Marxist left is a vote for said Marxist left. Choose wisely..... He burnt his bridges with me when he openly congratulated Florida Republicans for passing gun control. |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 4:08:08 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm very well aware of that, but it doesn't mean that I should just shut up or that I don't think it's interesting to talk about. There's another truism about things like polls, though. It's not possible to accurately measure how people feel about a candidate in a vacuum. Let's see how things play out when he actually has competition. Personally, I don't think he will run because I don't think his ego will survive getting beat in the primaries. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Lol. Most Republicans want him to run again. A new poll just came out which shows Trump is far more admired than Biden. He's not going away just because you personally want him to. Competition, ha! Anyone that runs against him will be a disloyal turncoat using the leftist media, democrats and disgruntled Republicans to get ahead of the most popular republican in modern history. |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 4:08:33 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And I appreciate your appreciation in kind! While I applaud your standing by your beliefs and values, as the Canadian rock band "Rush" once opined, "If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice". In this day in time, a vote not cast against a demonstrably Marxist left is a vote for said Marxist left. Choose wisely..... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Appreciate your honesty . Curious what percentage of Trump voters (like you) ‘considered’ voting for Obama in ‘12. It really sheds light on why so many of the fervent supporters of these demagogues don’t really have many principles or values they wouldn’t roll over on their bellies to give up. Personally I’m pretty solid in my beliefs and values so I never even considered voting for McCain, Obama, Clinton, Trump, Biden etc. as to me they are all one in the same. So far I’ve been right. That doesn’t mean I ‘hate’ those people, I just don’t vote for or support people who erode the Bill of Rights & grow the scope of government. And I appreciate your appreciation in kind! While I applaud your standing by your beliefs and values, as the Canadian rock band "Rush" once opined, "If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice". In this day in time, a vote not cast against a demonstrably Marxist left is a vote for said Marxist left. Choose wisely..... Ever see this cartoon from years ago?  Simpsons - Two Party System Will Doom Us All - I Voted for Kodos Funny thing is, on the other side of the coin, leftist shit that voted for bernie were probably told "A vote for bernie is a vote for Trump". |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 4:10:03 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I voted for Trump four times. In 2018, he lost me, but he still got my vote in the 2020 Florida presidential primary and in the general election. Why? Because even though he became a turd on 2A issues. He was the less stinky turd in 2020. Sadly, that was the choice. He burnt his bridges with me when he openly congratulated Florida Republicans for passing gun control. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: And I appreciate your appreciation in kind! While I applaud your standing by your beliefs and values, as the Canadian rock band "Rush" once opined, "If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice". In this day in time, a vote not cast against a demonstrably Marxist left is a vote for said Marxist left. Choose wisely..... He burnt his bridges with me when he openly congratulated Florida Republicans for passing gun control. Voting "lesser evil" every time throughout the years has brought us here. And is taking us where we are going, because it's not going to change. |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 4:10:17 PM EST
[#25]
This busts everyone's narrative.
Busts the claim they the riots were no big deal AND busts the claim that they were planned from the top. Cool. |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 4:11:22 PM EST
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Voting "lesser evil" every time throughout the years has brought us here. And is taking us where we are going, because it's not going to change. |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 4:12:42 PM EST
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm very well aware of that, but it doesn't mean that I should just shut up or that I don't think it's interesting to talk about. There's another truism about things like polls, though. It's not possible to accurately measure how people feel about a candidate in a vacuum. Let's see how things play out when he actually has competition. Personally, I don't think he will run because I don't think his ego will survive getting beat in the primaries. |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 4:28:53 PM EST
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Trump is ~100x more in touch with Republican voters than career politicians are. The Uniparty created Trump with ghastly candidates like McCain, Romney and Yeb! People who don't like Trump need to start putting the blame where it belongs: McConnell, McCarthy, Rove, etc., etc., etc. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'm very well aware of that, but it doesn't mean that I should just shut up or that I don't think it's interesting to talk about. There's another truism about things like polls, though. It's not possible to accurately measure how people feel about a candidate in a vacuum. Let's see how things play out when he actually has competition. Personally, I don't think he will run because I don't think his ego will survive getting beat in the primaries. |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 4:30:08 PM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Voting "lesser evil" every time throughout the years has brought us here. And is taking us where we are going, because it's not going to change. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: And I appreciate your appreciation in kind! While I applaud your standing by your beliefs and values, as the Canadian rock band "Rush" once opined, "If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice". In this day in time, a vote not cast against a demonstrably Marxist left is a vote for said Marxist left. Choose wisely..... He burnt his bridges with me when he openly congratulated Florida Republicans for passing gun control. Voting "lesser evil" every time throughout the years has brought us here. And is taking us where we are going, because it's not going to change. Worth repeating. A vote for lesser chains is still a vote for chains. |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 4:33:51 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Worth repeating. A vote for lesser chains is still a vote for chains. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: And I appreciate your appreciation in kind! While I applaud your standing by your beliefs and values, as the Canadian rock band "Rush" once opined, "If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice". In this day in time, a vote not cast against a demonstrably Marxist left is a vote for said Marxist left. Choose wisely..... He burnt his bridges with me when he openly congratulated Florida Republicans for passing gun control. Voting "lesser evil" every time throughout the years has brought us here. And is taking us where we are going, because it's not going to change. Worth repeating. A vote for lesser chains is still a vote for chains. And not voting is.....what exactly? ETA: And I would lump voting 3rd party or any other "fringe" candidate in with not voting |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 4:36:28 PM EST
[#31]
I couldn’t fucking care less.
Let’s see the texts for those days of every sitting US member of Congress, and Biden and Harris. If not, I don’t care. |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 4:37:30 PM EST
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh, they suck too. That's the reason I'm so disappointed in Trump. I honestly thought he was different and that he could succeed. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'm very well aware of that, but it doesn't mean that I should just shut up or that I don't think it's interesting to talk about. There's another truism about things like polls, though. It's not possible to accurately measure how people feel about a candidate in a vacuum. Let's see how things play out when he actually has competition. Personally, I don't think he will run because I don't think his ego will survive getting beat in the primaries. The cards were aligned against him. He was lucky to just get into office before they had him in shackles and frog marched. Much less to have been a "successful" president, which is relative to me because he had many successful policies. |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 4:42:38 PM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The cards were aligned against him. He was lucky to just get into office before they had him in shackles and frog marched. Much less to have been a "successful" president, which is relative to me because he had many successful policies. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'm very well aware of that, but it doesn't mean that I should just shut up or that I don't think it's interesting to talk about. There's another truism about things like polls, though. It's not possible to accurately measure how people feel about a candidate in a vacuum. Let's see how things play out when he actually has competition. Personally, I don't think he will run because I don't think his ego will survive getting beat in the primaries. The cards were aligned against him. He was lucky to just get into office before they had him in shackles and frog marched. Much less to have been a "successful" president, which is relative to me because he had many successful policies. |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 4:45:27 PM EST
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Trump is ~100x more in touch with Republican voters than career politicians are. The Uniparty created Trump with ghastly candidates like McCain, Romney and Yeb! People who don't like Trump need to start putting the blame where it belongs: McConnell, McCarthy, Rove, etc., etc., etc. Trump is endorsing the ever loving shit out of the Uniparty like Wilton Simpson (FL State Sen. that authored the Parkland Gun Control Bill, including Red Flag Orders), Marco Rubio (pushing Red Flag Orders on a national level), and Rick Scott (signed the Parkland Gun Control Bill into law and cosponsoring Rubio's bill). Trump loved the shit out of Kevin McCarthy for a while. 'There's my Kevin': McCarthy emerges as Trump's trusted link to Capitol Hill In booting Cheney, ‘My Kevin’ leads GOP back to Trump That all came to an end when Trump supposedely backed out of a deal he made with Kevin McCarthy. The 2020 clash began when Trump broke an agreement with McCarthy to consult before making endorsements in House races and took sides in a North Carolina primary contest. It is an noticeable pattern with Trump. Everyone is great when they kiss his ring, but when they don't. They're suddenly worse than the Devil. And Politics is a two-way street. Trump as President was not an emperor and he did have to work with Congress. He chose to burn bridges instead of build better ones. Anyways, Trump is a prime example of what is actually wrong with the GOP in of itself. Trump was born in 1946 and came of voting age in 1967 (the 26th Amendment wasn't ratified yet, so I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt that he couldn't vote until being 21). Yet, I'm under 40 and I've been a Republican longer than Trump has been. That's the problem.... we have more converts that were squishy middle of the road Democrats than actual Constitutionalists making up the majority of the GOP. The GOP has moved dramatically to the Left over the last two decades since it has accepted so many wayward Democrats with open arms. That hasn't made the GOP more "conservative". Nope, it has made it more Socialist. Just less Socialist than the Democrats have become. You complain about folks like Romney, McCarthy, McConnel, etc.... yet you don't look at the WHY. WHY ARE THEY THE LEADERS OF THE PARTY? Simple.... As the Democrats become the US Communist Party, the Republicans are becoming the US Labour Party since all those wayward Democrats have become Republicans. They aren't changing their voting habits and desires. They've simply changed their party affiliation. |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 5:08:36 PM EST
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I loved many of his policies. He could have continued on if he had just been able to control the bad parts of his personality. Instead, we have one of the worst presidents that I could possibly imagine. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'm very well aware of that, but it doesn't mean that I should just shut up or that I don't think it's interesting to talk about. There's another truism about things like polls, though. It's not possible to accurately measure how people feel about a candidate in a vacuum. Let's see how things play out when he actually has competition. Personally, I don't think he will run because I don't think his ego will survive getting beat in the primaries. The cards were aligned against him. He was lucky to just get into office before they had him in shackles and frog marched. Much less to have been a "successful" president, which is relative to me because he had many successful policies. Many of his personality traits are exploited, exaggerated and down right made up by the MSM and elites. Besides that, he had a great personality to tackle many problems ailing the country but let's use leftist propaganda to get rid of him, right? |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 5:12:54 PM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh, they suck too. That's the reason I'm so disappointed in Trump. I honestly thought he was different and that he could succeed. Some of you Trump haters have created your own reality. |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 5:14:04 PM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Many of his personality traits are exploited, exaggerated and down right made up by the MSM and elites. Besides that, he had a great personality to tackle many problems ailing the country but let's use leftist propaganda to get rid of him, right?  He simply couldn't admit that he drew on the map, thinking that the hurricane would progress that way. Instead, it was a massive shit show of stupidness, all while Floridians were trying to properly evacuate the potential area of landfall. That's his issue.... he opens his mouth on stuff that he isn't a subject matter expert on. And then when called on it, he doubles down. |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 5:23:46 PM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: @Anydaynow Trump is endorsing the ever loving shit out of the Uniparty like Wilton Simpson (FL State Sen. that authored the Parkland Gun Control Bill, including Red Flag Orders), Marco Rubio (pushing Red Flag Orders on a national level), and Rick Scott (signed the Parkland Gun Control Bill into law and cosponsoring Rubio's bill). Trump loved the shit out of Kevin McCarthy for a while. 'There's my Kevin': McCarthy emerges as Trump's trusted link to Capitol Hill In booting Cheney, 'My Kevin' leads GOP back to Trump That all came to an end when Trump supposedely backed out of a deal he made with Kevin McCarthy. The 2020 clash began when Trump broke an agreement with McCarthy to consult before making endorsements in House races and took sides in a North Carolina primary contest. It is an noticeable pattern with Trump. Everyone is great when they kiss his ring, but when they don't. They're suddenly worse than the Devil. And Politics is a two-way street. Trump as President was not an emperor and he did have to work with Congress. He chose to burn bridges instead of build better ones. Anyways, Trump is a prime example of what is actually wrong with the GOP in of itself. Trump was born in 1946 and came of voting age in 1967 (the 26th Amendment wasn't ratified yet, so I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt that he couldn't vote until being 21). Yet, I'm under 40 and I've been a Republican longer than Trump has been. That's the problem.... we have more converts that were squishy middle of the road Democrats than actual Constitutionalists making up the majority of the GOP. The GOP has moved dramatically to the Left over the last two decades since it has accepted so many wayward Democrats with open arms. That hasn't made the GOP more "conservative". Nope, it has made it more Socialist. Just less Socialist than the Democrats have become. You complain about folks like Romney, McCarthy, McConnel, etc.... yet you don't look at the WHY. WHY ARE THEY THE LEADERS OF THE PARTY? Simple.... As the Democrats become the US Communist Party, the Republicans are becoming the US Labour Party since all those wayward Democrats have become Republicans. They aren't changing their voting habits and desires. They've simply changed their party affiliation. Me, I am DONE with career politicians. Ted Cruz was the last one I went all in for. Look into Soccer Balls and Teddy Bears' extraordinary support for Comprehensive Immigration Reform. Then study the extent to which he LIED about it. Fool me a couple hundred times, and that's it. I'll look at any truck driver, ditch digger, garbage man, etc., who opts to run for office. But don't expect to sell me on any more career politicos. I'll grit my teeth, vote for somebody like DeSantis in the general, then go home and take a long hot shower. And still feel dirty. But I'll be against them all in the primary: count on it. |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 5:26:16 PM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If you were less biased and took the time you could name more establishment Republicans that Trump opposes than that he's endorsed. But you only cite the minority of examples that serve your narrative. Me, I am DONE with career politicians. Ted Cruz was the last one I went all in for. Look into Soccer Balls and Teddy Bears' extraordinary support for Comprehensive Immigration Reform. Then study the extent to which he LIED about it. Fool me a couple hundred times, and that's it. I'll look at any truck driver, ditch digger, garbage man, etc., who opts to run for office. But don't expect to sell me on any more career politicos. I'll grit my teeth, vote for somebody like DeSantis in the general, then go home and take a long hot shower. And still feel dirty. But I'll be against them all in the primary: count on it. Ted Cruz didn't have my support in 2016 for the very same reasons in regards to immigration. |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 5:35:25 PM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: A person who believes that he ham-handedly lost the election would blame Trump for what is happening now. That's the reason why it's so important that people believe that he didn't actually lose. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Uh huh, not really sure why that matters at all. His son gave him political advice. Okay, big whoop. Donald Trump Jr's text message history doesn't make the insane hyperinflation we're seeing right now change a single bit. Everything is insanely expensive right now. Labor issues due to government unemployment competition is destroying our economy. We've got border counties with over a 2,000% increase in illegal immigration over last year. Did you know that China is having rolling blackouts regularly now? They've had to reduce factory operation hours and that's going to further disrupt global supply chain. We've got gas that is damn near $4 a gallon here and Biden is talking about economic sanctions on Russia that could prompt them to close off their oil pipeline to Germany thereby increasing the price of a barrel of crude oil on the commodities market. Not to mention the vaccine mandates and what I assume will soon be booster mandates as well. Some States are looking to reimplement mask requirements and in the case of Oregon to make them permanent. So, WHO GIVES A * ABOUT TEXT MESSAGES? Ok, so ... what is it .... YOU personally believe trump ham-handedly lost? ... and think everyone else believes that too, and are trying to cover it up? If not that, than what? We know the election process was subverted, we know that subversion puts enough votes in question that we (this is worse than saying he lost) cannot know if he won or lost (Personally, my belief is he would have without the fraud, but I also believe that can't be proven now) and we know a puppet was installed. We watched the presidential election process get subverted and we watched scotus tell texas to take a hike when they absolutely should not have. We watched the process itself getting destroyed by making it untrustworthy, and you ... act like you think it is just politics. And you keep going this route, over and over. |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 5:36:12 PM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Trump endorsed Mitt Romney after the fuck up that he was during the primary and same with Marco Rubio. After all the shit slinging that Rubio and Romney threw at Trump. Trump still backed them. Ted Cruz didn't have my support in 2016 for the very same reasons in regards to immigration. There's a theory among Trump haters that he could have alienated these DC princesses and even remained in office, much less got anything done. False. The closet Democrats were merely waiting for any excuse to turn even more publicly and viciously against Trump. Spelling |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 5:38:31 PM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: He dug himself into a number of holes due to his personality. Does SharpieGate ring a bell? https://media.newyorker.com/photos/5d717a034618300008e1873a/4:3/w_2386,h_1790,c_limit/Cassidy-Sharpiegate.jpg He simply couldn't admit that he drew on the map, thinking that the hurricane would progress that way. Instead, it was a massive shit show of stupidness, all while Floridians were trying to properly evacuate the potential area of landfall. That's his issue.... he opens his mouth on stuff that he isn't a subject matter expert on. And then when called on it, he doubles down. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Many of his personality traits are exploited, exaggerated and down right made up by the MSM and elites. Besides that, he had a great personality to tackle many problems ailing the country but let's use leftist propaganda to get rid of him, right? https://media.newyorker.com/photos/5d717a034618300008e1873a/4:3/w_2386,h_1790,c_limit/Cassidy-Sharpiegate.jpg He simply couldn't admit that he drew on the map, thinking that the hurricane would progress that way. Instead, it was a massive shit show of stupidness, all while Floridians were trying to properly evacuate the potential area of landfall. That's his issue.... he opens his mouth on stuff that he isn't a subject matter expert on. And then when called on it, he doubles down. Now imagine slow Joe doing the same and the deafening silence that would ensue. And if he didn't have a bunch of backstabbers in the government and in the media, he wouldn't have to opine on subjects he isn't an expert in but that's the world we live, where not even the weather forecasters can be trusted. |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 5:41:41 PM EST
[#43]
https://thefederalist.com/2021/12/15/during-january-6-hearing-schiff-doctored-text-messages-between-mark-meadows-and-rep-jim-jordan/
 Watch Schiff Doctor A Text Message Between Jordan And Meadows Schiff is a proven liar. Nothing he says can be believed without external trustworthy sources confirming what he's said. If you are believing what he said, you're showing your bias, not good thinking. |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 5:50:01 PM EST
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: lots of folks realized what was going on was not good for trump. so they tried to get him to get the folks to stop. kinda like hitler in the bunker, he was in his own little world. since then a shit-ton of republicans realize trump has enough sway over his worshipers to end political careers and nullify anyone running that wont bend the knee and sing song of the big steal and maga maga maga. biden and his ilk need to go, but if those running for 2022 and 2024 dont go along with trumps snakeoil he will torpedo the effort. of course many here believe its ok, since civil war 2.0 is the only solution and anything that hastens that fantasy is acceptable. It's funny that you think Trump could have calmed that down. He was still speaking when the first agitators fought cops on the sidewalk, tore the barricades down and pushed them back to the building itself. He was probably still speaking when clueless speechgoers were filtering up to the building not knowing that the cops were already in fall back and hold mode. I suppose if T$ had somehow teleported to the top of the stairs with a sound stage he could have (maybe) talked folks down but that wasn't going to happen. Does someone think people were checking CNN or NPR for statements by Trump while the cops were gassing them and lobbing flashbangs into the crowd? |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 6:09:24 PM EST
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Look at the disaster happening to the country right now by this train wreck of an "administration". Yet the N_T's are still focused on Trump, who's been out of office for nearly a year. Bizarre. Exactamundo. |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 6:10:18 PM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's funny that you think Trump could have calmed that down. He was still speaking when the first agitators fought cops on the sidewalk, tore the barricades down and pushed them back to the building itself. He was probably still speaking when clueless speechgoers were filtering up to the building not knowing that the cops were already in fall back and hold mode. I suppose if T$ had somehow teleported to the top of the stairs with a sound stage he could have (maybe) talked folks down but that wasn't going to happen. Does someone think people were checking CNN or NPR for statements by Trump while the cops were gassing them and lobbing flashbangs into the crowd? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: lots of folks realized what was going on was not good for trump. so they tried to get him to get the folks to stop. kinda like hitler in the bunker, he was in his own little world. since then a shit-ton of republicans realize trump has enough sway over his worshipers to end political careers and nullify anyone running that wont bend the knee and sing song of the big steal and maga maga maga. biden and his ilk need to go, but if those running for 2022 and 2024 dont go along with trumps snakeoil he will torpedo the effort. of course many here believe its ok, since civil war 2.0 is the only solution and anything that hastens that fantasy is acceptable. It's funny that you think Trump could have calmed that down. He was still speaking when the first agitators fought cops on the sidewalk, tore the barricades down and pushed them back to the building itself. He was probably still speaking when clueless speechgoers were filtering up to the building not knowing that the cops were already in fall back and hold mode. I suppose if T$ had somehow teleported to the top of the stairs with a sound stage he could have (maybe) talked folks down but that wasn't going to happen. Does someone think people were checking CNN or NPR for statements by Trump while the cops were gassing them and lobbing flashbangs into the crowd? i think he could have. they were after all there for him in the first place. and he is a master of motivating folks. but we'll never know. the only quest is how much damage THE ORANGE CALF will inflict on this country before he finishes. |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 6:14:23 PM EST
[#47]
Quoted:
https://thefederalist.com/2021/12/15/during-january-6-hearing-schiff-doctored-text-messages-between-mark-meadows-and-rep-jim-jordan/  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ar4RWEcOo7QQuote HistorySchiff is a proven liar. Nothing he says can be believed without external trustworthy sources confirming what he's said. If you are believing what he said, you're showing your bias, not good thinking. Lying works for Democrats [as well as Trump hating so-called Republicans, i.e.: Rod Rosenstein]. It enabled them to cripple Trump for four years. Anything that pays big dividends and exacts no price you'll get more of. Biden and the Democrats are lying so hard now Goebbels would blush. But it works so they just keep upping the ante. |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 6:15:02 PM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I loved many of his policies. He could have continued on if he had just been able to control the bad parts of his personality. Instead, we have one of the worst presidents that I could possibly imagine. Mean tweets got us biden. What the fuck ever!! |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 6:20:56 PM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That's why I'm done with lesser of two evils. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Voting "lesser evil" every time throughout the years has brought us here. And is taking us where we are going, because it's not going to change. Liberals pretending to be libertarians preaching there wisdom from the soap box of what they insinuate is a legit ballot box. |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 6:29:30 PM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Look at the disaster happening to the country right now by this train wreck of an "administration". Yet the N_T's are still focused on Trump, who's been out of office for nearly a year. Bizarre. Reminded me of the phrase " Arguing a Moot Point ", looked it up and yes, they are arguing a moot point for whatever reason. They appear to dislike Trump more than FJB. |
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