Posted: 7/30/2017 9:54:00 PM EDT
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School me on a ductless range hood. We're remodeling a kitchen and the wife wants a gas range in the middle of the room on a island. I understand the limitations on a charcoal filter range hood vs a vented model. Can I simply bolt it to the ceiling...?
Help Rules: Attached File The entire area on the right is getting Demo'd. It's a floating wall. Getting opened up for a more open feel with an island. I'm concerned since the ceiling is slanted... Attached File ETA: The general idea. Slanted ceiling, gas range on an island Attached File |
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Ductless hoods are okay for electric cook-tops, but a gas appliance really should be ducted. Quoted:
Ductless hoods are okay for electric cook-tops, but a gas appliance really should be ducted. See the OP for kitchen in question Quoted:
Have you thought of using a downdraft vent? 
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Isn't the entire point of a range good to purge the kitchen of cooking smells and smoke? Going ductless would just spread it around the house? @xjronx - you responded to to my other thread. Can you comment on this? |
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We went ductless and it was the biggest mistake of our last remodel. Never again. We are going to retro fit a duct it suck so bad. Not only does smoke stay in the kitchen, cooking grease in the smoke covers everything. Go ducted. |
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Same as above. Mine fucking sucks fat cocks. Fucking useless garbage. One of the worst decisions I have ever made including performing home surgery and buying a Chevy Cavalier. Â Â I've deadness its relatively heap to have a roofer carcenopen the roof and put the top metal pieces on My concern is the angled vaulted ceiling |
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I am a builder and high end remodeler.
Don't go ductless. Downdraft also isn't good. Get one that will duct horizontally through the wall. If you must have a chimney style, put a soffit above the chimney... and vent it through the wall. Edit... if that isn't an outside wall, build a soffit to meet the ceiling or extend the chimney up to the ceiling. Do not go ductless. You will regret it. |
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Why wouldn't you just vent that? We currently have a ductless and I'm waiting until the summer is over to rip it out (and lose some cabinet space, unfortunately) and replace with a proper vented hood. |
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I'm in the same boat. Â We just bought a house with a gas range but no hood. Â I HAVE to have a hood. My issue is that there is a bedroom above the range. Â I'm not sure how it will look/perform routing duct 90 degrees and going out the wall though. Ours is a ranch so it could go straight up through the roof |
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Ex HVAC guy here. I don't care if you are installing a gas or electric range, go multi speed, go vented, go with a large stainless hood and go up if at all possible. Hot air wants to go up, let it or you will likely live to regret it. Poor venting is one of by biggest gripes.
While we are one the topic of venting and I am posting, install higher flow bath fans if you are touching your bathrooms during the remodel. Those 20 / 40 cfm models you have or buy at Homeless Despot are junk. Go with something like the 150 / 160 cfm panisonic or comparable. Heat recovery ventlitors would be better but are likely too hard / expensive to retrofit. ETA: You sure that the aisles will be large enough with an island? |
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I'm in the same boat. Â We just bought a house with a gas range but no hood. Â I HAVE to have a hood. My issue is that there is a bedroom above the range. Â I'm not sure how it will look/perform routing duct 90 degrees and going out the wall though. |
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Ex HVAC guy here. I don't care if you are installing a gas or electric range, go multi speed, go vented, go with a large stainless hood and go up if at all possible. Hot air wants to go up, let it or you will likely live to regret it. Poor venting is one of by biggest gripes. While we are one the topic of venting and I am posting, install higher flow bath fans if you are touching your bathrooms during the remodel. Those 20 / 40 cfm models you have or buy at Homeless Despot are junk. Go with something like the 150 / 160 cfm panisonic or comparable. Heat recovery ventlitors would be better but are likely too hard / expensive to retrofit. I assume you have experience with an angled, vaulted ceiling (sorry of the verbiage is wrong, it's the tequila) Where do I buy an extender on the hood to make it to the ceiling then deal with the angle at the ceiling, cutting through the roof, etc |
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Ex HVAC guy here. I don't care if you are installing a gas or electric range, go multi speed, go vented, go with a large stainless hood and go up if at all possible. Hot air wants to go up, let it or you will likely live to regret it. Poor venting is one of by biggest gripes. While we are one the topic of venting and I am posting, install higher flow bath fans if you are touching your bathrooms during the remodel. Those 20 / 40 cfm models you have or buy at Homeless Despot are junk. Go with something like the 150 / 160 cfm panisonic or comparable. Heat recovery ventlitors would be better but are likely too hard / expensive to retrofit. |
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I have a downdraft, and would make every effort to go with a hood if possible.
The extra cost of the downdraft would pretty much pay for a nice hood, especially considering you are starting from scratch. A hood with a bend or two has to be as good as a downdraft. |
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I wouldn't know what to recommend other than putting the range on the wall next to the sink. That way, you can put a range hood above it and you can cut out a hole in the wall for the range hood to vent out smoke. |
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It will be free floating above an island, not attached to a wall. Calling a roofer i used to know in the morning to see what he thinks about chopping up the roof |
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@latency I assume you have experience with an angled, vaulted ceiling (sorry of the verbiage is wrong, it's the tequila) Where do I buy an extender on the hood to make it to the ceiling then deal with the angle at the ceiling, cutting through the roof, etc Quoted:
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Ex HVAC guy here. I don't care if you are installing a gas or electric range, go multi speed, go vented, go with a large stainless hood and go up if at all possible. Hot air wants to go up, let it or you will likely live to regret it. Poor venting is one of by biggest gripes. While we are one the topic of venting and I am posting, install higher flow bath fans if you are touching your bathrooms during the remodel. Those 20 / 40 cfm models you have or buy at Homeless Despot are junk. Go with something like the 150 / 160 cfm panisonic or comparable. Heat recovery ventlitors would be better but are likely too hard / expensive to retrofit. I assume you have experience with an angled, vaulted ceiling (sorry of the verbiage is wrong, it's the tequila) Where do I buy an extender on the hood to make it to the ceiling then deal with the angle at the ceiling, cutting through the roof, etc The cosmetic cover parts are all available from a good HVAC supply house or sometimes from a kitchen supply company. The ones we ordered out of a catalog matched the vent hoods dimensionally and looked like these. https://www.rangehooddirectbuy.com/shop/index.php?cPath=33_47 I haven't ordered from these guys so no opinion on the link. |
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The angle at the ceiling is usually cut on site. There is usually a cosmetic cover that matches the suspended range hood and a duct inside that passes through the roof. The actual vent part / roof penitration should be available at Home Depot. The cosmetic cover parts are all available from a good HVAC supply house or sometimes from a kitchen supply company. The ones we ordered out of a catalog matched the vent hoods dimensionally and looked like these. https://www.rangehooddirectbuy.com/shop/index.php?cPath=33_47 I haven't ordered from these guys so no opinion on the link. |
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Figure out a way to duct it, they make over the island models... I switched to gas at my old place and if I was cooking a serious meal, the house would get hot as hell... Nevermind the smell and likely co2 issues.
I have a Wolf hood in my new place and you could smoke a cigarette under that mf'er and not smell it, well not really, but close. |
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is the house on a slab or crawlspace? If crawlspace, you could get a ducted fan that mounts in the cabinet and is routed down through the floor and to a wall vent. I would suggest adding a dryer booster fan inline somewhere too if the length of duct got too long.
I agree with all the posters above. Recirc fans are terrible and I would do everything I could to avoid installing one. |