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Link Posted: 10/25/2020 12:19:52 AM EST
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Man, PA more important than I thought.  I figured as long as we get FL, its over.
Link Posted: 10/25/2020 12:23:25 AM EST
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Link Posted: 10/25/2020 12:32:15 AM EST
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After all the dirt is leaked it will look like the Jeb world pic but with Trump
Link Posted: 10/25/2020 12:35:37 AM EST
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Trump has been gaining here too.

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Link Posted: 10/25/2020 12:51:22 AM EST
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He certainly has.  Thank God for my money....




Susan is going to screw me over in Maine, but I have hedges, lol
Link Posted: 10/25/2020 1:08:50 AM EST
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Since this thread seems appropriate, and for those who are having trouble sleeping, I'll just leave this here...

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Notice how the GOP states are blue and the Dem states are red? Sure wish we'd go back to that. Democrats are openly embracing Marxism now; they'd probably rather be red again too. Win-win.
Link Posted: 10/25/2020 1:27:51 AM EST
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The dems are buying everything the media is feeding them.  They believe Georgia, South Carolina and Texas are in play.   Not to mention Ohio.  

The fraud would have to be spectacular for the GOP to lose.  Especially since Trump basically goaded Biden into throwing big oil under the bus in a live debate.
Link Posted: 10/25/2020 4:23:09 AM EST
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Notice how the GOP states are blue and the Dem states are red? Sure wish we'd go back to that. Democrats are openly embracing Marxism now; they'd probably rather be red again too. Win-win.
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Since this thread seems appropriate, and for those who are having trouble sleeping, I'll just leave this here...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMuWVsPQbwM

Notice how the GOP states are blue and the Dem states are red? Sure wish we'd go back to that. Democrats are openly embracing Marxism now; they'd probably rather be red again too. Win-win.


Yep.  Blue is the traditional color of parties well to the Right in the West.  Red being the color of much of the internationalist far-Left (nationalist far-Left tends to use brown) is, of course, well-known.  I'd rather Republicans be Blue than Red, like they once were.  It makes far more sense.  It would not surprise me that the colors were switched because the Democratic Left did not want to be seen for what they were.
Link Posted: 10/25/2020 10:29:54 AM EST
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Man, PA more important than I thought.  I figured as long as we get FL, its over.
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Ive been telling people to go to 270towin and play with the EC maps for a month. There’s no national election. It comes down to a few swing states.
Link Posted: 10/25/2020 3:37:19 PM EST
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Ive been telling people to go to 270towin and play with the EC maps for a month. There’s no national election. It comes down to a few swing states.
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Man, PA more important than I thought.  I figured as long as we get FL, its over.


Ive been telling people to go to 270towin and play with the EC maps for a month. There’s no national election. It comes down to a few swing states.


It really does.

OH FL, PA, MI, WI.

Those are about the only States that seem to really be bell weather states... Thus why candidates always campaign there so hard.
Link Posted: 10/25/2020 4:32:28 PM EST
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Debates are done, October surprise has happened.  As the fake polls tighten, what's your best guess? I've found my way to 269 for each a couple of times...I think TX, IA, OH, FL, and NC are in the bag for Trump.  After the debate last night and Biden sticking his foot in his mouth over oil, I think PA is also going red.  This leaves toss ups of MI, MN, WI, AZ.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/415017/Screenshot_20201023-181642_Chrome_jpg-1650634.JPG

Based on voting trends over the last 6 years, we have all forgotten that AZ has been moving further left.  I think Trump holds WI and MI, loses AZ, and gains MN.  All 4 states have been mad at their governor due to lockdowns which will affect the presidential race.

My current prediction:

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/415017/Screenshot_20201023-181729_Chrome_jpg-1650640.JPG

Trump can afford to lose 3 of the last 4 if he holds the rest from 2016. If he loses PA, he needs at least 2 of them.
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I think AZ is going Red in November.
Link Posted: 10/26/2020 9:43:01 AM EST
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As of 10-24-20

https://www.270towin.com/

My optimistic map

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Link Posted: 10/26/2020 1:34:53 PM EST
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If that is the case, get ready for Congress to decide the winner, because you know there are doing to be a few faithless electors again... But last time most came from Hillary rather than Trump
Link Posted: 10/26/2020 1:37:53 PM EST
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Aside from New York and Oregon that map is believable.
Link Posted: 10/28/2020 11:43:26 PM EST
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I was taking a look at the polling averages and if the averages were reflective of the results, this is what the map would look like, a solid Biden victory.  Anything that has Biden underpolling at all is just an overwhelming defeat for Trump.  



If we have the polls underpolling Trump across the board by about a quarter of the value of the average margin of error, this is what the map looks like.  Still a Biden victory, by slimmer margins, although AZ would almost be a toss-up in this scenario, going Democrat by only the slightest of margins.  PA is the only other one kinda within reach, assuming minimal or no shenanigans (unlikely) in this scenario.  He'd need PA to force a draw and an election by Congress, and both to win outright.



If we have the polls underpolling Trump across the board by about half of the value of the average margin of error, this is what the map looks like.  Pennsylvania in this scenario becomes the key, and I think the recent rulings and shenanigans might be enough in this scenario to make PA go Democrat, which would give Biden the win.  NV is almost a toss-up here, and MN and WI are both within reach absent shenanigans in this scenario, so doing a little better in a couple of those would negate any need to get PA.



If the polls were to be underpolling Trump by about 3/4 the value of the average margin of error across the board, the map looks like this.  Shenanigans might still be enough to push MN, PA, and NV into Democratic victories, which would then give Biden the election, but absent such an impact, Trump wins.



Now, if the polls were to be underpolling Trump by the maximum value of the average margin of error across the board, the map then looks like this.  Clear Trump victory.  If the polls were to be underpolling Trump beyond the margin of error, then Trump wins.  He'd likely get MI, then, and CO, VA, and NH would possibly be in play at that point.



If he were to be underpolling by 1 1/4 times the value of the average margin of error across the board, the map would look like this.  I think this is pushing the boundary of any plausible victory, although VA, ME, and NH are all Democrat in this scenario by under 3 points.  NM seem to be a really tough nut to crack at this point.



I do think he's underpolling to some degree in many if not most States (perhaps even all of them).  What is important is the degree to which this is the case, and specifically to what degree in which particular States.  It wouldn't be uniform like in the hypotheticals above.  That'll determine whether he wins or loses, IMO.  He needs to be underpolling by more than 1/4 of the margin of error, and perhaps by half or more of that value, in multiple States to win.  I did think it was interesting to see what the results would be to look incrementally at the effects of underpolling on the outcome.
Link Posted: 10/29/2020 12:27:25 AM EST
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This with NV red
Link Posted: 10/29/2020 12:46:28 AM EST
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it's a tough path for a Republican to 270...

Link Posted: 10/29/2020 1:01:34 AM EST
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That this isn’t “laugh out loud, get the f*** out of here with that s***“ based on some of the polling should scare everyone. Everyone is so sure the polling error is against Trump and/or the undecideds break for Trump. If both those things aren’t true it is a train wreck.

Link Posted: 10/29/2020 1:11:36 AM EST
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Link Posted: 10/29/2020 1:12:36 AM EST
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I must be an outlier here because I feel like Trump is going to lose this time.  I hate to say it but Biden is leading by 9 points in some of these states you guys seem sure Trump will win.  Hillary was not up by 9 points this time in the election.  Even if the polls are wrong I doubt they are wrong by that much.  Plus you are all forgetting the turn out of new younger voters that did not vote in 16 are nearly all dems!  My daughter said every single person at her school hates Trump and they do not even know why!  Trump has been vilified so badly for 4 years that people are coming out in droves to vote against him.  I hope he pulls it off but not likely.
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MSM lies. Since forever. As do the polls. They'll start tightening up towards reality around the weekend.
Link Posted: 10/29/2020 1:14:46 AM EST
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It's all due to ONE county, Cook. If not for Chicago would be one of the most conservative states in the country.
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I can't understand Illinois. Everyone is moving out, the state is ready to tip over financially and Chicago is a war zone every f'n night.  Did I forget to mention, I can't understand Illinois???
I can't understand Illinois. Everyone is moving out, the state is ready to tip over financially and Chicago is a war zone every f'n night.  Did I forget to mention, I can't understand Illinois???
I can't understand Illinois. Everyone is moving out, the state is ready to tip over financially and Chicago is a war zone every f'n night.  Did I forget to mention, I can't understand Illinois???


It's all due to ONE county, Cook. If not for Chicago would be one of the most conservative states in the country.

Chicago Communists ruin it for everyone. They gave us Obama.
Link Posted: 10/29/2020 1:18:14 AM EST
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That this isn’t “laugh out loud, get the f*** out of here with that s***“ based on some of the polling should scare everyone. Everyone is so sure the polling error is against Trump and/or the undecideds break for Trump. If both those things aren’t true it is a train wreck.

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Gtfo with that shit ass map

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Link Posted: 10/29/2020 1:22:19 AM EST
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Best case.



Realistic case.
Link Posted: 10/29/2020 1:33:35 AM EST
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Based on current state polling this is the map that we will have at the end of election day:


Link Posted: 10/29/2020 1:36:06 AM EST
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That this isn’t “laugh out loud, get the f*** out of here with that s***“ based on some of the polling should scare everyone. Everyone is so sure the polling error is against Trump and/or the undecideds break for Trump. If both those things aren’t true it is a train wreck.

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Texas may be in play if Georgia is so your map could be accurate.
Link Posted: 10/29/2020 2:04:09 AM EST
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In my prediction Trump becomes the first Republican to win The White House without Ohio.   During the night the media becomes orgasmic when Trump has lost Ohio, then suddenly their orgasmic feels are crushed as Trump rallies in Michigan, holds PA, and Arizona just doesn't go their way.    


Link Posted: 10/29/2020 2:11:11 AM EST
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That would be funny if NY state goes red.
Link Posted: 10/29/2020 2:12:18 AM EST
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That would be funny if NY state goes red.
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I believe NY will turn red for Trumps 2nd term, NYC is burning people hate it there with recent prorests and riots.
Link Posted: 10/29/2020 2:19:42 AM EST
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In my prediction Trump becomes the first Republican to win The White House without Ohio.   During the night the media becomes orgasmic when Trump has lost Ohio, then suddenly their orgasmic feels are crushed as Trump rallies in Michigan, holds PA, and Arizona just doesn't go their way.    


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Kinda weird when he is much stronger in Ohio than Wi, Mi, Pa, and FL.

That map is not going to happen.

Link Posted: 10/29/2020 2:22:01 AM EST
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Based on current state polling this is the map that we will have at the end of election day:


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You guys aren’t even trying anymore.

So trump wins the entire rust belt but loses NC, GA, and Arizona?

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Link Posted: 10/29/2020 2:29:19 PM EST
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Kinda weird when he is much stronger in Ohio than Wi, Mi, Pa, and FL.

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I calculate in a surprise.  Last election I had Wisconsin and PA.   I have friends in Ohio and they don't believe Ohio red will beat Ohio union blue this time because of Goodyear and GM.
Link Posted: 10/29/2020 2:37:22 PM EST
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Funny how the concern trolls are complete new guys.
Link Posted: 10/29/2020 2:44:09 PM EST
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I have a glimmer of hope for VA this year.  I have seen Trump stuff all over the Eastern and Northern half of the state.  I have only seen two pedo bumper stickers in NOVA.  People I would have never thought would, are voting or have voted Trump.  It feels different this time.
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Sorry, Biden by 5% and warner by 8-10+.

My area is fairly conservative and I don't see the Trump love. We have New Obama running for our house rep and the DNC is blanketing our area with mailers and TV ads.
Va voters are usually lazy and the D's were motivated to take Va and now that they have us, that enthusiasm on their side has not subsided.
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