[ARCHIVED THREAD] - End Game (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 8/3/2009 6:39:43 PM EDT
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As many of us see a boiling point fast approaching, I want to discuss with you, what we should do before the bullets fly. IMHO, we are going to see more aggressive HTF with the congress critters, as each and every 'in your face' episode reaches national notoriety on the internet. It is a grassfire, and while good right now, without direction can consume more than we wish. I am always up for a good fight, fist fight, a battle of wills, or a kick ass video game. There are rules within those, however. Violate those and you lose, despite winning by 'crook'. I watched the video this morning of the Veteran calling out the congressman over his support of the VA, despite his never having used it. It seems that the congressman was a Veteran, but as he was more entitled, he never had to stoop to the level of going to the VA. The Vet was at that level. The Vet disagreed with the congressman over the level of care, as well as the quality of care given to him by the VA. I really expected that the congressman was going to leave the room on a stretcher, or at least with a world class ass whipping. Alas, we are not there yet. The congressman was pointedly annoyed with his troublesome, vociferous, ignorant, and uppity constituents. Thankfully no one dismembered the man on stage. I would have a hard time convicting a man of stripping the guy, and spraying him with a 3M product like #6987, and pouring a whole mattress full of goose down over him. However, it is my belief that one or more of us soon may find himself at such an occasion. AS such... What are you going to do? Seriously? As much as we hate the enemies of all that we hold dear, I know that I will not allow a mob . It really sucks to think, but I would probably fight to keep that MacCarthy bitch alive. Might kill her in private.. but I wouldn't let a mob get out of hand. My point is: If you find yourself in a situation that you don't agree with... find yourself out of it. Despite differences in opinion, we still have the obligation to act like gentlemen. discuss. |
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Quoted: <snip> Despite differences in opinion, we still have the obligation to act like gentlemen. discuss. Tell that to the left. I am tired of acting like a gentleman. I am tired of compromising. I'm tired of watching my country die a death of a thousand cuts. And I am not alone. There is a rude awakening brewing in this country. I just hope the resulting battle doesn't cost any innocent lives. |
| I am in the delayed entry program for the army right now, today was my first oath. If it came to bullets flying I can only hope we did everything we could to keep it from going that far too quick, if that's the only way to cleanse the shit out of the country, than so be it. I don't want to know what the military will be doing in that situation. |
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<snip> Despite differences in opinion, we still have the obligation to act like gentlemen. discuss. Tell that to the left. I am tired of acting like a gentleman. I am tired of compromising. I'm tired of watching my country die a death of a thousand cuts. And I am not alone. There is a rude awakening brewing in this country. I just hope the resulting battle doesn't cost any innocent lives. So you are going to prove to them your hate by means of physical violence? That is like that idiot who killed the abortion doctor. IT MAKES NO SENSE. Using your words to convey your point makes you look more like a responsible and intelligent citizen. Oh, and by using your words I mean not cursing or belittling them. |
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Quoted: I never said anything about physical violence, nor would I advocate it. I intend to use my words, my money and my vote. Quoted: Quoted: <snip> Despite differences in opinion, we still have the obligation to act like gentlemen. discuss. Tell that to the left. I am tired of acting like a gentleman. I am tired of compromising. I'm tired of watching my country die a death of a thousand cuts. And I am not alone. There is a rude awakening brewing in this country. I just hope the resulting battle doesn't cost any innocent lives. So you are going to prove to them your hate by means of physical violence? That is like that idiot who killed the abortion doctor. IT MAKES NO SENSE. Using your words to convey your point makes you look more like a responsible and intelligent citizen. Oh, and by using your words I mean not cursing or belittling them. I honestly believe that 2008 marked the beginning of a political battle at the very base of American society. This battle is between the contributors, the non-contributors and those who's only goal is to have power over both. The 2010 elections will be the next big battle. If we win, there is hope. If we lose, we are fucked. |
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Quoted: Quoted: <snip> Despite differences in opinion, we still have the obligation to act like gentlemen. discuss. Tell that to the left. I am tired of acting like a gentleman. I am tired of compromising. I'm tired of watching my country die a death of a thousand cuts. And I am not alone. There is a rude awakening brewing in this country. I just hope the resulting battle doesn't cost any innocent lives. Could go to an liberal forum 2 years ago and see them saying the SAME thing...  You will find yourself mostly running ALONE if you run to war to overthrow the govt. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: <snip> Despite differences in opinion, we still have the obligation to act like gentlemen. discuss. Tell that to the left. I am tired of acting like a gentleman. I am tired of compromising. I'm tired of watching my country die a death of a thousand cuts. And I am not alone. There is a rude awakening brewing in this country. I just hope the resulting battle doesn't cost any innocent lives. Could go to an liberal forum 2 years ago and see them saying the SAME thing... You will find yourself mostly running ALONE if you run to war to overthrow the govt. I must just suck at properly conveying what I am trying to say tonight. That wasn't at all what I was getting at. |
| The disturbing thing to me is that this whole "movement" by the left is at it's core communism. They control the universities, the media, and so on. They have the tools to indoctrinate. Obama's other half talks about how he is going to change the country and how it might be a little painful and do this and do that and the masses cheer without considering exactly what it is that he is talking about that is going to be painful. Their problem is that the people who make this country run are by and large against them. These town hall meetings are the beginning and if things continue in the way that the left wants them to, things could get interesting. |
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Quoted: Gentlemen, there is a time and place for everything. At the town hall meeting, violence should not be welcome. Herd the sheep. Maybe .. naah.. carry on. Physical violence, no. But when people are tired of the assclowns in D.C. acting like ROYALTY rather than elected representatives, loud ,boisterous and vehement dissent is not only called for, it is required. |
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Quoted: You mean, if I were at a town hall meeting, and said meeting got out of control, and the torch and pitchfork wielding townsfolk rushed the podium, would I help the poor Congressman? Fuck no. Yeah, that is exactly what I mean. I am disappointed that you cant see that the moments satisfaction, the lust for traitor's blood, the lure of the crowd is a siren song. When I say 'end game' I mean just that. Not picking on you , ampn, but you rose to the bait, so you get the ride (my friend). What happens tomorrow? A great thing happened today, at the HTF where you helped (dismemeber, burn at the stake, hack with a machete,etc) the deserving politician. Yay, US!!!!. Now what? What happens now? I fear that if we dance in the blood of our enemies, we will find that we will shucked the yoke of one oppressor to gleefully don the chains of tyranny. |
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The disturbing thing to me is that this whole "movement" by the left is at it's core communism. They control the universities, the media, and so on. They have the tools to indoctrinate. Obama's other half talks about how he is going to change the country and how it might be a little painful and do this and do that and the masses cheer without considering exactly what it is that he is talking about that is going to be painful. Their problem is that the people who make this country run are by and large against them. These town hall meetings are the beginning and if things continue in the way that the left wants them to, things could get interesting. What?  We have private and public Universities in the United States, the Federal government has not erased any material that they think condemns them like Russia has. The media? We have two main media channels who support two different parties; Fox and CNN. As far as I can tell I am still living in a democracy where I have the right to do just about anything I want. I attend college right now, and no one stops me if I was to protest. You are the one being indoctrinated if you think the left is communism.
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Quoted: Quoted: The disturbing thing to me is that this whole "movement" by the left is at it's core communism. They control the universities, the media, and so on. They have the tools to indoctrinate. Obama's other half talks about how he is going to change the country and how it might be a little painful and do this and do that and the masses cheer without considering exactly what it is that he is talking about that is going to be painful. Their problem is that the people who make this country run are by and large against them. These town hall meetings are the beginning and if things continue in the way that the left wants them to, things could get interesting. What? We have private and public Universities in the United States, the Federal government has not erased any material that they think condemns them like Russia has. The media? We have two main media channels who support two different parties; Fox and CNN. (Really, we only have 2 main media channels huh? What happened to MSNBC/CBS/ABC/NBC?) As far as I can tell I am still living in a democracy where I have the right to do just about anything I want. I attend college right now, and no one stops me if I was to protest. You are the one being indoctrinated if you think the left is communism.Hell I work in the media, and your post just made me think of this pic:  |
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Quoted: Quoted: You mean, if I were at a town hall meeting, and said meeting got out of control, and the torch and pitchfork wielding townsfolk rushed the podium, would I help the poor Congressman? Fuck no. Yeah, that is exactly what I mean. I am disappointed that you cant see that the moments satisfaction, the lust for traitor's blood, the lure of the crowd is a siren song. When I say 'end game' I mean just that. Not picking on you , ampn, but you rose to the bait, so you get the ride (my friend). What happens tomorrow? A great thing happened today, at the HTF where you helped (dismemeber, burn at the stake, hack with a machete,etc) the deserving politician. Yay, US!!!!. Now what? What happens now? I fear that if we dance in the blood of our enemies, we will find that we will shucked the yoke of one oppressor to gleefully don the chains of tyranny. I agree that it (violence) would be pointless, at least at this point in history, but I would gladly sit back and watch the trainwreck. Would this help our cause? Maybe, maybe not. I didn't see the video that you referred to, but if people yell, scream, and engage in civil disobedience–– that gets their attention. I'm not one who has wet dreams of revolution or violence. Just a look back at history shows how that usually works out. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Gentlemen, there is a time and place for everything. At the town hall meeting, violence should not be welcome. Herd the sheep. Maybe .. naah.. carry on. Physical violence, no. But when people are tired of the assclowns in D.C. acting like ROYALTY rather than elected representatives, loud ,boisterous and vehement dissent is not only called for, it is required. I disagree here, albeit a fine line. Using the POS in my OP for example. I would love for him to literally get run out of town. Horsewhips, bull whips, cane poles , and whatever else made that POS run away. Not to kill him, but to make his staying painful to endure. A mob chasing the guy down the road. Not to kill him, but to make him leave. The body politic can say "Whoops... made a mistake with this one" in a grandiose fashion. It would be better said if the guy were running down the street in goose down clothing, recently applied, and permanent in nature. That being said... Don't shoot them. Don't let other's shoot them either. If you find yourself in that situation, please be the voice of reason. Sometimes us men have to stand up. |
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The disturbing thing to me is that this whole "movement" by the left is at it's core communism. They control the universities, the media, and so on. They have the tools to indoctrinate. Obama's other half talks about how he is going to change the country and how it might be a little painful and do this and do that and the masses cheer without considering exactly what it is that he is talking about that is going to be painful. Their problem is that the people who make this country run are by and large against them. These town hall meetings are the beginning and if things continue in the way that the left wants them to, things could get interesting. What? We have private and public Universities in the United States, the Federal government has not erased any material that they think condemns them like Russia has. The media? We have two main media channels who support two different parties; Fox and CNN. As far as I can tell I am still living in a democracy where I have the right to do just about anything I want. I attend college right now, and no one stops me if I was to protest. You are the one being indoctrinated if you think the left is communism.Hell I work in the media, and your post just made me think of this pic: http://www.balloon-juice.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/head_up_your_ass2.jpg What job do you hold in what media corporation? And how is my head in my ass? |
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Quoted: Nowhere did I mention or advocate physical violence.Quoted: Quoted: Gentlemen, there is a time and place for everything. At the town hall meeting, violence should not be welcome. Herd the sheep. Maybe .. naah.. carry on. Physical violence, no. But when people are tired of the assclowns in D.C. acting like ROYALTY rather than elected representatives, loud ,boisterous and vehement dissent is not only called for, it is required. I disagree here, albeit a fine line. Using the POS in my OP for example. I would love for him to literally get run out of town. Horsewhips, bull whips, cane poles , and whatever else made that POS run away. Not to kill him, but to make his staying painful to endure. A mob chasing the guy down the road. Not to kill him, but to make him leave. The body politic can say "Whoops... made a mistake with this one" in a grandiose fashion. It would be better said if the guy were running down the street in goose down clothing, recently applied, and permanent in nature. That being said... Don't shoot them. Don't let other's shoot them either. If you find yourself in that situation, please be the voice of reason. Sometimes us men have to stand up. Loud dissent is not the same thing. They need to hear it. |
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I 100% agree with you. There is much hostility toward them. They need to understand that they serve at our leisure. They are not nobility, nor entitled to their position of greatness. I am merely suggesting that we need to temper ourselves, and temper our compatriots, lest we win the battle and lose the war. sorry for the cliche. |
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Quoted:Despite differences in opinion, we still have the obligation to act like gentlemen.
[/span]discuss. [span style='font-weight: bold;'][span style='font-weight: bold;'][/span] [/span] How well did that work for the british? ever seen the movie the patriot with mel gibson? T |
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You mean, if I were at a town hall meeting, and said meeting got out of control, and the torch and pitchfork wielding townsfolk rushed the podium, would I help the poor Congressman? Fuck no. I don't know where to get tar, but I sure as heck can run to Wal-Mart and buy a feather pillow. |
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You expect me to risk my fuzzy white ass to get between a mob of angry citizens and some dumbass crook who has robbed us blind, set himself up to live like a king, patronized us when we complained, ignored us when we urged and willfully sold our rights, our prosperity and our future down the river because some other sumbitch traitor like him promised to scratch his back if he did?
Sheeeeeeit! These cocksuckers can go to hell for all I care, they're on their own. They fucked with the bull, they can have the horns. |
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There are still tools left available. And they are being used...open and loud protest being one of them; by people who are NOT known to be loud...or to protest. Folks who work 40+ hours a week tend to focus locally and on family first. They rarely go out and hold up a sign during a workday.
Yes, folks are pissed...and many have had just about enough with 'representatives' who do not represent. Reason? What is occuring will destroy lives and livelyhoods...and they are not even bothering to read and know the bills. The effects of them will put families in peril of being on the streets.... Media is very culpable in this (in general) as they pooh-pooh the protests and paint those who do as extremist nutjobs. And it is back-firing. The productive portion of society is saying no. I'd say that they ignore that...at...thier....peril. Politically and otherwise. ETA - Sentence correction. |
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<snip> Despite differences in opinion, we still have the obligation to act like gentlemen. discuss. Tell that to the left. I am tired of acting like a gentleman. I am tired of compromising. I'm tired of watching my country die a death of a thousand cuts. And I am not alone. There is a rude awakening brewing in this country. I just hope the resulting battle doesn't cost any innocent lives. +1 I'm only 27. I've watched the leftys pull shit that makes me want to vomit since I was a child. Fuck it, I'm done being a gentleman. I'd rather be an in your face asshole that won't let my opponent get a word in edgewise. |
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In the past I thought the country could survive. I still get little glimmers of that, but it's a false hope. We are either going to slip into a socialist shit-hole or some people are going to be dragged into the night and pushed against a wall. The political system is not going to fix it, at least no way I can see.
I noticed during the Bush administration that the only difference between Republicans and Democrats is the speed at which we're going down the toilet. |
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In the past I thought the country could survive. I still get little glimmers of that, but it's a false hope. We are either going to slip into a socialist shit-hole or some people are going to be dragged into the night and pushed against a wall. The political system is not going to fix it, at least no way I can see. I noticed during the Bush administration that the only difference between Republicans and Democrats is the speed at which we're going down the toilet. Or, it will be stopped. It ain't over yet. And folks are waking up. |
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Quoted: Be patient till the last.Quoted: Yes you can, Doug. Ranger Roastbeef has some good points. But you cannot quell the mob... A leader is a leader is a leader. Romans, countrymen, and lovers! hear me for my cause, and be silent, that you may hear: believe me for mine honour, and have respect to mine honour, that you may believe: censure me in your wisdom, and awake your senses, that you may the better judge. If there be any in this assembly, any dear friend of Caesar's, to him I say, that Brutus' love to Caesar was no less than his. If then that friend demand why Brutus rose against Caesar, this is my answer: ––Not that I loved Caesar less, but that I loved Rome more. Had you rather Caesar were living and die all slaves, than that Caesar were dead, to live all free men? As Caesar loved me, I weep for him; as he was fortunate, I rejoice at it; as he was valiant, I honour him: but, as he was ambitious, I slew him. There is tears for his love; joy for his fortune; honour for his valour; and death for his ambition. Who is here so base that would be a bondman? If any, speak; for him have I offended. Who is here so rude that would not be a Roman? If any, speak; for him have I offended. Who is here so vile that will not love his country? If any, speak; for him have I offended. I pause for a reply. just remember how it ended... |
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If I go to a Town Hall meeting I will debate and argue. I will try to educate the masses. But the second the anger in the room changes to a violent tone I'm out of there. Now, if some dirtbag is standing at my polling place with a bat, I'll be the first to take him on. But that is a different story. |
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Fuck 'em. I listened to eight years of insane bullshit from truthers and tyrant lovers who threw in thier lot with Saddam Hussein, Hugo Chavez, and Kim Jong Il. Now they have got what they wanted. They're in charge, the coalition of screwballs decided to see if we could work the Soviet model of state control of everything. Of course it won't work and its supporters will say anything as long as some professional liar promises them another pound of government cheese.
How about some of the "protests" at the G-8 summits? We are not running around wearing ski masks and throwing things. We have jobs. But it's past time to be nice to these scumbags. Government officals do not live in fear of ninja SWAT raids, having their grandmothers stomped on the floor and their dogs shot with suppressed machine guns when a warrant is executed for one of countless allegations of public corruption. When they do, I will consider myself equal with the elitist scumbags that are in charge around here. They, and their followers, need to understand that what goes around, comes around. |
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y'all realize, don'cha... there is only 535 . Not exactly. Those 535 hold the strings to arond 5 million troops and security guards. Add to that LE of various levels. And add to that those of us who want this fixed without violence and the like. They are feeling the pressure, atm. If they choose to ignore it? That is on them. |
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Gentlemen. read the thread. Be brave, be men. Be leaders. First of all, be mad... but secondly be leaders. Don't let the world crumble beneath your feet. Of course, as any one who has done anything at all in life knows, what do we do now? are you going to lead me and mine? No? Who is? end game. What is going to be better tomorrow than today? |
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If you find yourself in a situation that you don't agree with... find yourself out of it. Despite differences in opinion, we still have the obligation to act like gentlemen. [/span]discuss. [span style='font-weight: bold;'][span style='font-weight: bold;'][/span] [/span] Agreed don't get stupid in a town hall meeting.... way to many video cameras they will catch your ass. Second part 100% agreed we when meeting our congressional reps should act like gentlemen. Is challenging a scoundrel to a duel still considered gentlemanly? |
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Gentlemen. read the thread. Be brave, be men. Be leaders. First of all, be mad... but secondly be leaders. Don't let the world crumble beneath your feet. Of course, as any one who has done anything at all in life knows, what do we do now? are you going to lead me and mine? No? Who is? end game. What is going to be better tomorrow than today? Because it is not yet time. Take a deep breath...prepare for you and yours. About all you can do for the moment. ETA - Blargh...bold is my response. |
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we either fix this in 2010 or all bets are off.
if we (American's) vote out in large numbers the crooked, thieving, lying scum in Washington, America still has a chance. but if they all stay in power either by hook or crook (ACORN) THEN, I am afraid that those in the wings, who ARE waiting patiently, will pull the trigger, literally, and all bets are off. and I am sure things will quickly get out of hand. |
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we either fix this in 2010 or all bets are off. if we (American's) vote out in large numbers the crooked, thieving, lying scum in Washington, America still has a chance. but if they all stay in power either by hook or crook (ACORN) THEN, I am afraid that those in the wings, who ARE waiting patiently, will pull the trigger, literally, and all bets are off. and I am sure things will quickly get out of hand. If that occurs...yes. All bets are off. I'm hoping to avoid that; you? |
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Quoted: Quoted: we either fix this in 2010 or all bets are off. if we (American's) vote out in large numbers the crooked, thieving, lying scum in Washington, America still has a chance. but if they all stay in power either by hook or crook (ACORN) THEN, I am afraid that those in the wings, who ARE waiting patiently, will pull the trigger, literally, and all bets are off. and I am sure things will quickly get out of hand. If that occurs...yes. All bets are off. I'm hoping to avoid that; you? yes. I am not smart enough to perform strategic "immediate term limits". |
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we either fix this in 2010 or all bets are off. if we (American's) vote out in large numbers the crooked, thieving, lying scum in Washington, America still has a chance. but if they all stay in power either by hook or crook (ACORN) THEN, I am afraid that those in the wings, who ARE waiting patiently, will pull the trigger, literally, and all bets are off. and I am sure things will quickly get out of hand. If that occurs...yes. All bets are off. I'm hoping to avoid that; you? yes. I am not smart enough to perform strategic "immediate term limits". We're in dangerous times. And I think you know what I mean. |
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I say fuck them! They made their bed let them lie in it!!..
It is not my duty to protect anyone of the mother fuckers..I consider very many of them traitors to the Constitution and they need to face the music to what they have done against the people of this nation..Period! eta.. Not in condoning the act...but I would not place my self in anyone's way to protect them from jack shit... |