Posted: 4/9/2015 9:06:19 AM EDT
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Well, There's the thread on evolutionary deadends: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1735985_In_this_thread__we_post_evolutionary_dead_ends_of_firearms_and_other_weapons.html Let's say we start another one on the "future?" I'm sure this has been done over, but I haven't seen one in awhile. New features, new materials, new calibers,where are we headed/should head? |
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That thing looks crazy.. and.. awkward. Sounds like a nifty concept though. |
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If it's not man fireable why does it have an optic? |
| A self-cleaning, self-aiming, full-auto, integrally-suppressed pistol the size of a Glock 19, the weight of a Ruger LCP that carries 200 rounds of 15 grain, .22 caliber ammunition that has the muzzle energy of 30-06 and expands to .5", penetrates 15" in ballistic gel, recoils like a 10-22 firing Colibris, produces no heat and costs 50 bucks. |
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Quoted: If it's not man fireable why does it have an optic? Quoted: If it's not man fireable why does it have an optic? For Cyborgs to use. |
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Those will definitely be nifty, but I don't see man portable versions in the near future. Even if the actual weapons tech exists, battery tech would have to come a long ways first to power it. Quoted:
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Placing my bet on energy weapons, whether gauss or laser. Those will definitely be nifty, but I don't see man portable versions in the near future. Even if the actual weapons tech exists, battery tech would have to come a long ways first to power it. Battery tech is growing by leaps and bounds even in consumer-land, especially with electric cars becoming more and more popular. It won't be long, and I would feel comfortable suggesting that we'd see it in our lifetime. |
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There's a sidebar about this in Nolo's lawsuit thread. If the NFA dies, we'll see innovation on a level the firearms industry has never seen before. Innovation in small arms development has been hamstrung in the US since 1934. Could JMB's creativity have flourished under the weight of the BATFE? I think not. Personally - I think that someone thinking outside the box could make compact, lightweight caseless SCHV ammo-fed weapons viable, with external cooling. It's a lot closer than man-portable directed energy weapons. (The power requirements will limit these to vehicle based or static position use - for a while, IMHO.) Edit - if we solve the power issue, then we can run around in powered armor anyway - and the size & weight of energy weapons becomes more viable. |
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Battery tech is growing by leaps and bounds even in consumer-land, especially with electric cars becoming more and more popular. It won't be long, and I would feel comfortable suggesting that we'd see it in our lifetime. Quoted:
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Placing my bet on energy weapons, whether gauss or laser. Those will definitely be nifty, but I don't see man portable versions in the near future. Even if the actual weapons tech exists, battery tech would have to come a long ways first to power it. Battery tech is growing by leaps and bounds even in consumer-land, especially with electric cars becoming more and more popular. It won't be long, and I would feel comfortable suggesting that we'd see it in our lifetime. Battery tech hasn't changed all that much |
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There's a sidebar about this in Nolo's lawsuit thread. If the NFA dies, we'll see innovation on a level the firearms industry has never seen before. Yes, ff the BATFE (and NFA) wasn't in the way, we would have electric triggers, electric primers, and heck,maybe even caseless ammo, being common instead of ultra-rare and precision rifle only. |
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If it's not man fireable why does it have an optic? For Cyborgs to use. FEMAbots?  Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Quoted: There's a sidebar about this in Nolo's lawsuit thread. If the NFA dies, we'll see innovation on a level the firearms industry has never seen before.  Without all the red tape we could certainly see some new stuff,the prospect is certainly exciting. |
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Quoted: Battery tech hasn't changed all that much Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Placing my bet on energy weapons, whether gauss or laser. Those will definitely be nifty, but I don't see man portable versions in the near future. Even if the actual weapons tech exists, battery tech would have to come a long ways first to power it. Battery tech is growing by leaps and bounds even in consumer-land, especially with electric cars becoming more and more popular. It won't be long, and I would feel comfortable suggesting that we'd see it in our lifetime. Battery tech hasn't changed all that much Guess that depends on your outlook. Bendy Aluminum battery |
| Short of 'lasers' and 'railguns' I don't see much happening and those will have massive power requirements and be too heavy for someone to carry around. As far as conventional propellent powered projectile guns are concerned I think we've hit the end of the road. I mean people will still make little advances here and there, but there really isn't much to be done other than making different calibers and slightly different designs. It's like the internal combustion engine in cars. Little improvements here and there, but the base concept has been mastered over 100+ years. |
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There's a sidebar about this in Nolo's lawsuit thread. If the NFA dies, we'll see innovation on a level the firearms industry has never seen before. True statement. The very first thing that I would want to experiment with personally would be an electrical ignition system. Think AN94 two shot burst, but electrically initiated, and on demand. You could do a lot of neat things with that flexibility, remote firing, delayed firing (to reduce flinching), selectable burst settings, all sorts of stuff. |
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Yes, ff the BATFE (and NFA) wasn't in the way, we would have electric triggers, electric primers, and heck,maybe even caseless ammo, being common instead of ultra-rare and precision rifle only. Quoted:
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There's a sidebar about this in Nolo's lawsuit thread. If the NFA dies, we'll see innovation on a level the firearms industry has never seen before. Yes, ff the BATFE (and NFA) wasn't in the way, we would have electric triggers, electric primers, and heck,maybe even caseless ammo, being common instead of ultra-rare and precision rifle only. yup i have tons of crazy shit I could do if the BATFE and ITAR was out of the way. |
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ever heard of the OICW? not as evolutionary as you think |
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Better aiming and optics.
From an engineering standpoint we can create a device that reliably sends a chunk of lead to where the device is pointed to a distance of a few hundred meters. In a military context the vast majority of the shots "miss" even if we exclude those intended to be suppression. If the aimed shots hit rate increased by even a few percent it would revolutionize the battlefield. There's far more marginal return to increasing the hit rate than in coming up with better ways to send lead downrange. |
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The future isn't going to be about more bullets / faster rate of fire / exotic energy weapons.
The future is going to be about increasing hit probability. There are already working guns that essentially aim themselves, I expect that technology to become more developed and commonplace. I'm not sure I'm a fan of this technology. I also expect it to be regulated, somehow, by the government. I think if we're going to maintain the 2A's relevance, we need to start protecting the right to own these future technologies NOW. |
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The future isn't going to be about more bullets / faster rate of fire / exotic energy weapons. The future is going to be about increasing hit probability. There are already working guns that essentially aim themselves, I expect that technology to become more developed and commonplace. I'm not sure I'm a fan of this technology. I also expect it to be regulated, somehow, by the government. I think if we're going to maintain the 2A's relevance, we need to start protecting the right to own these future technologies NOW. What have you done to legalize/deregulate IZLIDs in the last 90 days? |
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Quoted: yup i have tons of crazy shit I could do if the BATFE and ITAR was out of the way. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: There's a sidebar about this in Nolo's lawsuit thread. If the NFA dies, we'll see innovation on a level the firearms industry has never seen before. Yes, ff the BATFE (and NFA) wasn't in the way, we would have electric triggers, electric primers, and heck,maybe even caseless ammo, being common instead of ultra-rare and precision rifle only. yup i have tons of crazy shit I could do if the BATFE and ITAR was out of the way. Electronic triggers are 100% a nogo? Swear I saw someone working on one on the firearm blog or some place.. |
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Innovation in small arms development has been hamstrung in the US since 1934. Could JMB's creativity have flourished under the weight of the BATFE? I think not. Personally - I think that someone thinking outside the box could make compact, lightweight caseless SCHV ammo-fed weapons viable, with external cooling. It's a lot closer than man-portable directed energy weapons. (The power requirements will limit these to vehicle based or static position use - for a while, IMHO.) Edit - if we solve the power issue, then we can run around in powered armor anyway - and the size & weight of energy weapons becomes more viable. Quoted:
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There's a sidebar about this in Nolo's lawsuit thread. If the NFA dies, we'll see innovation on a level the firearms industry has never seen before. Innovation in small arms development has been hamstrung in the US since 1934. Could JMB's creativity have flourished under the weight of the BATFE? I think not. Personally - I think that someone thinking outside the box could make compact, lightweight caseless SCHV ammo-fed weapons viable, with external cooling. It's a lot closer than man-portable directed energy weapons. (The power requirements will limit these to vehicle based or static position use - for a while, IMHO.) Edit - if we solve the power issue, then we can run around in powered armor anyway - and the size & weight of energy weapons becomes more viable. I worry that caseless ammo would kill private shooting. No more wildcat calibers dreamed up in garages, no more reloading. |
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Electronic triggers are 100% a nogo? Swear I saw someone working on one on the firearm blog or some place.. Quoted:
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There's a sidebar about this in Nolo's lawsuit thread. If the NFA dies, we'll see innovation on a level the firearms industry has never seen before. Yes, ff the BATFE (and NFA) wasn't in the way, we would have electric triggers, electric primers, and heck,maybe even caseless ammo, being common instead of ultra-rare and precision rifle only. yup i have tons of crazy shit I could do if the BATFE and ITAR was out of the way. Electronic triggers are 100% a nogo? Swear I saw someone working on one on the firearm blog or some place.. there are a few target pistols that are electronic triggered. most are EU imports. |
