[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Explain autism? (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 10/6/2014 1:38:50 PM EDT
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there are grown men, and children that scream, throw tantrums. or say inappropriate things, say mean or disgusting things. and some are violent in the form of pushing and throwing shit.
people some say its autism, some say autism isnt violent. |
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Autism encompasses a rather wide spectrum of disorder. Autistic people don't process the world around them in a normal way and there can be a lot of variety in how that manifests itself. Some are rather peaceful about it, though they might have vocal outbursts. Others can be downright violent and filled with rage. Throw in sociopathic tendencies (inability to empathize) and you've got a very dangerous combination. The rage is common enough that there are medications specifically used for treating autistic people with violent tendencies. |
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I'd bet that less than 20% of the people in America who're diagnosed with autism don't really have it. It's something of a garbage-dump diagnosis anymore. Perhaps in some cases. On the other hand, I think the medical/psychological community if finally catching up on recognizing and diagnosing certain disorders. That said, I had a conversation with my wife recently expressing my concern at what appears to be a rapidly increasing amount of autism. Looking back in my youth I can recall one or two kids that today would be classified as high functioning autistic. Today there seem to be dozens of them in a single grade at a single school, and most of them really do seem to have significant issues. I suspect a genetic link, but still don't know why it seems to be increasing so rapidly. |
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there are grown men, and children that scream, throw tantrums. or say inappropriate things, say mean or disgusting things. and some are violent in the form of pushing and throwing shit. people some say its autism, some say autism isnt violent. My youngest has autism and doesn't do any of that. |
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Perhaps in some cases. On the other hand, I think the medical/psychological community if finally catching up on recognizing and diagnosing certain disorders. That said, I had a conversation with my wife recently expressing my concern at what appears to be a rapidly increasing amount of autism. Looking back in my youth I can recall one or two kids that today would be classified as high functioning autistic. Today there seem to be dozens of them in a single grade at a single school, and most of them really do seem to have significant issues. I suspect a genetic link, but still don't know why it seems to be increasing so rapidly. Quoted:
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I'd bet that less than 20% of the people in America who're diagnosed with autism don't really have it. It's something of a garbage-dump diagnosis anymore. Perhaps in some cases. On the other hand, I think the medical/psychological community if finally catching up on recognizing and diagnosing certain disorders. That said, I had a conversation with my wife recently expressing my concern at what appears to be a rapidly increasing amount of autism. Looking back in my youth I can recall one or two kids that today would be classified as high functioning autistic. Today there seem to be dozens of them in a single grade at a single school, and most of them really do seem to have significant issues. I suspect a genetic link, but still don't know why it seems to be increasing so rapidly. This honestly. My mother works at an elemamtary school. When i was a kid, she said they literally had no problem children. She says now. over the last ten years, its absolutely exploded. the number of autistic children with behavior problems is so large, and taxing on staff that people have quit or transferred out of the school. things from one kid throwing a teacher, [Some 5 foot tall hulk 11 year old or something] to stabbing one with a pencil. non stop screaming. some are mute. some cant look you in the eyes and stare at the floor al lthe time. |
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Perhaps in some cases. On the other hand, I think the medical/psychological community if finally catching up on recognizing and diagnosing certain disorders. That said, I had a conversation with my wife recently expressing my concern at what appears to be a rapidly increasing amount of autism. Looking back in my youth I can recall one or two kids that today would be classified as high functioning autistic. Today there seem to be dozens of them in a single grade at a single school, and most of them really do seem to have significant issues. I suspect a genetic link, but still don't know why it seems to be increasing so rapidly. Quoted:
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I'd bet that less than 20% of the people in America who're diagnosed with autism don't really have it. It's something of a garbage-dump diagnosis anymore. Perhaps in some cases. On the other hand, I think the medical/psychological community if finally catching up on recognizing and diagnosing certain disorders. That said, I had a conversation with my wife recently expressing my concern at what appears to be a rapidly increasing amount of autism. Looking back in my youth I can recall one or two kids that today would be classified as high functioning autistic. Today there seem to be dozens of them in a single grade at a single school, and most of them really do seem to have significant issues. I suspect a genetic link, but still don't know why it seems to be increasing so rapidly. I know it's a legitimate condition, with likely varying degrees of severity, but I'm so fucking cynical anymore; I think bad parenting is the root of most of these kids' behavioral issues. |
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there are grown men, and children that scream, throw tantrums. or say inappropriate things, say mean or disgusting things. and some are violent in the form of pushing and throwing shit. people some say its autism, some say autism isnt violent. My youngest has autism and doesn't do any of that. what disorder under autism? |
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there are grown men, and children that scream, throw tantrums. or say inappropriate things, say mean or disgusting things. and some are violent in the form of pushing and throwing shit. people some say its autism, some say autism isnt violent. My youngest has autism and doesn't do any of that. what disorder under autism? High functioning autism, used to be called Aspergers. |
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/03/27/autism-rates-rise/6957815/
autism rates soar, now affects 1 in 68 children I mean if its so damn common. there's got to be a cause. I wonder if it affects certain ethnicities more often than other, like sickle cell. |
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I know it's a legitimate condition, with likely varying degrees of severity, but I'm so fucking cynical anymore; I think bad parenting is the root of most of these kids' behavioral issues. Quoted:
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I'd bet that less than 20% of the people in America who're diagnosed with autism don't really have it. It's something of a garbage-dump diagnosis anymore. Perhaps in some cases. On the other hand, I think the medical/psychological community if finally catching up on recognizing and diagnosing certain disorders. That said, I had a conversation with my wife recently expressing my concern at what appears to be a rapidly increasing amount of autism. Looking back in my youth I can recall one or two kids that today would be classified as high functioning autistic. Today there seem to be dozens of them in a single grade at a single school, and most of them really do seem to have significant issues. I suspect a genetic link, but still don't know why it seems to be increasing so rapidly. I know it's a legitimate condition, with likely varying degrees of severity, but I'm so fucking cynical anymore; I think bad parenting is the root of most of these kids' behavioral issues. A fair enough point. Consider, however, that parents are increasingly hamstrung in what they can do. Smack your kid upside the head for stealing from neighbors or for setting off a stink-bomb in school and you'll get reported to CPS today. |
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I thought you were describing liberalism,,, don't process the world around them in a normal way and there can be a lot of variety in how that manifests itself. Some are rather peaceful about it, though they might have vocal outbursts. Others can be downright violent and filled with rage. Throw in sociopathic tendencies (inability to empathize) and you've got a very dangerous combination.
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Autism encompasses a rather wide spectrum of disorder. Autistic people don't process the world around them in a normal way and there can be a lot of variety in how that manifests itself. Some are rather peaceful about it, though they might have vocal outbursts. Others can be downright violent and filled with rage. Throw in sociopathic tendencies (inability to empathize) and you've got a very dangerous combination. The rage is common enough that there are medications specifically used for treating autistic people with violent tendencies. |
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/03/27/autism-rates-rise/6957815/ I mean if its so damn common. there's got to be a cause. I wonder if it affects certain ethnicities more often than other, like sickle cell. Quoted:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/03/27/autism-rates-rise/6957815/ autism rates soar, now affects 1 in 68 children I mean if its so damn common. there's got to be a cause. I wonder if it affects certain ethnicities more often than other, like sickle cell. I don't know. I just know that I'm seeing the increase in white communities. |
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A fair enough point. Consider, however, that parents are increasingly hamstrung in what they can do. Smack your kid upside the head for stealing from neighbors or for setting off a stink-bomb in school and you'll get reported to CPS today. Quoted:
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I'd bet that less than 20% of the people in America who're diagnosed with autism don't really have it. It's something of a garbage-dump diagnosis anymore. Perhaps in some cases. On the other hand, I think the medical/psychological community if finally catching up on recognizing and diagnosing certain disorders. That said, I had a conversation with my wife recently expressing my concern at what appears to be a rapidly increasing amount of autism. Looking back in my youth I can recall one or two kids that today would be classified as high functioning autistic. Today there seem to be dozens of them in a single grade at a single school, and most of them really do seem to have significant issues. I suspect a genetic link, but still don't know why it seems to be increasing so rapidly. I know it's a legitimate condition, with likely varying degrees of severity, but I'm so fucking cynical anymore; I think bad parenting is the root of most of these kids' behavioral issues. A fair enough point. Consider, however, that parents are increasingly hamstrung in what they can do. Smack your kid upside the head for stealing from neighbors or for setting off a stink-bomb in school and you'll get reported to CPS today. i dunno man, latin families still use belts , flip flops and other objects. PC liberal soccer mom shit doesnt exist in the real world. The new CDC report found that white children were approximately 30 percent more likely to be identified with autism than black children and almost 50 percent more likely than Hispanic children. http://consumer.healthday.com/cognitive-health-information-26/autism-news-51/u-s-autism-estimates-rise-by-30-percent-686244.html apparently it's least reported in Hispanics. considering the whoopings spanish families dish out. im not surprised. |
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Autism encompasses a rather wide spectrum of disorder. Autistic people don't process the world around them in a normal way and there can be a lot of variety in how that manifests itself. Some are rather peaceful about it, though they might have vocal outbursts. Others can be downright violent and filled with rage. Throw in sociopathic tendencies (inability to empathize) and you've got a very dangerous combination. The rage is common enough that there are medications specifically used for treating autistic people with violent tendencies. |
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there are grown men, and children that scream, throw tantrums. or say inappropriate things, say mean or disgusting things. and some are violent in the form of pushing and throwing shit. people some say its autism, some say autism isnt violent. My youngest has autism and doesn't do any of that. what disorder under autism? High functioning autism, used to be called Aspergers. I knew a guy with that. Smart as shit and really good with organization and numbers but he had a hard time thinking outside of the box. |
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It is easy to understand why someone wants an explanation/excuse that doesn't involve making the parent look inward at their own genes. Quoted:
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[dumbass] Hurr Durr vaccines cause it Hurr Durr [/dumbass] It is easy to understand why someone wants an explanation/excuse that doesn't involve making the parent look inward at their own genes. is it genetic? is there a way to get both parents screened for genetic issues before pregnancy? |
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is it genetic? is there a way to get both parents screened for genetic issues before pregnancy? Quoted:
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[dumbass] Hurr Durr vaccines cause it Hurr Durr [/dumbass] It is easy to understand why someone wants an explanation/excuse that doesn't involve making the parent look inward at their own genes. is it genetic? is there a way to get both parents screened for genetic issues before pregnancy? I don't know if there is a way to screen, but autism does seem to follow in family lines. Fragile X Syndrome is one genetic link that has been identified. |
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I don't know if there is a way to screen, but autism does seem to follow in family lines. Fragile X Syndrome is one genetic link that has been identified. Quoted:
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[dumbass] Hurr Durr vaccines cause it Hurr Durr [/dumbass] It is easy to understand why someone wants an explanation/excuse that doesn't involve making the parent look inward at their own genes. is it genetic? is there a way to get both parents screened for genetic issues before pregnancy? I don't know if there is a way to screen, but autism does seem to follow in family lines. Fragile X Syndrome is one genetic link that has been identified. Is fragile x considered a type of autism? That is also a disorder that affects the musculature in a lot of cases. |
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The definition of autism is changing because it is not well understood. As we learn more, the parameters have to be adjusted. Most of the increase in autism diagnoses in the last 15 or so years can be attributed to an increase knowledge of the disorder. Many people who are autistic used to be classified under the broad spectrum of "mental retardation" and the like. The high-functioning end of the spectrum (what was formerly called Aspergers) is probably the most controversial aspect when it comes to diagnosis. Having worked in middle and high school special education for 5 years, I didn't personally see many children who were misdiagnosed. The "bad parenting" idea is overplayed, in my opinion. 20 years ago, the prevalent thought on the cause of autism was that it was the mother's fault. We know better than that now. The major cases of misdiagnosis I saw were due to parents of children with other mental disorders shopping their children around to different docs until they got an autism diagnosis. Over 90% of the children with Down's Syndrome whom I worked with also had an autism diagnosis. After speaking with several parents, I think the reason for this is the unknown nature of autism. Because we do not yet know the cause, many parents hold out hope for a potential cure or treatment to be found. An autism diagnosis may give parents some hope that part of their child's behavioral problems can be remedied in the future. On the other end of the spectrum are people like the OP is talking about. My 20 year old brother is one of them. Almost completely non-verbal, and very violent. He has broken my nose 3 times, and almost put my mother in the hospital several times. He now goes to a full-time residential school for autistic children, and is doing much better in the highly-stuctured environment. He will be able to transition into a group home environment, and hopefully do well there. It is possible for people like the OP is referencing to be helped with a rigid structure and behavior modification, but the HUGE time and monetary investment needed put it out of reach for most families. |
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there are grown men, and children that scream, throw tantrums. or say inappropriate things, say mean or disgusting things. and some are violent in the form of pushing and throwing shit. people some say its autism, some say autism isnt violent. My youngest has autism and doesn't do any of that. Neither does mine. The only symptom she has is she doesn't talk at over 4.5 years old. She understands everything you say and ask her to do, she just can't vocalize words. I've been waiting 5 years to talk to her. |
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My son can be violent. It happens when he encounters a issue and doesn't know a solution. He becomes stressed and panicky at this point he will usually run but if corned he will become violent.
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When I was a kid, autism was the label used for the kid that was entertained by spinning shiny objects, and banged his head on the floor. Now a days, it includes every kid that's a little weird compared to everyone else.
It's kind of like how ADHD evolved from the kid who literally could not stop moving and talking to every boy that isn't sleepy. |
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[dumbass] Hurr Durr vaccines cause it Hurr Durr [/dumbass] It is easy to understand why someone wants an explanation/excuse that doesn't involve making the parent look inward at their own genes. is it genetic? is there a way to get both parents screened for genetic issues before pregnancy? I don't know. I do know no one else in my family or my wife's family has been diagnosed with it on any level. I realize it could have been a roll of the genetic dice, but yeah I do find it a bit frustrating not knowing exactly how she got it and her sister did not. The only other person I know personally that has kids with autism is a girl I lived next door to growing up who has two kids with autism. |
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Perhaps in some cases. On the other hand, I think the medical/psychological community if finally catching up on recognizing and diagnosing certain disorders. That said, I had a conversation with my wife recently expressing my concern at what appears to be a rapidly increasing amount of autism. Looking back in my youth I can recall one or two kids that today would be classified as high functioning autistic. Today there seem to be dozens of them in a single grade at a single school, and most of them really do seem to have significant issues. I suspect a genetic link, but still don't know why it seems to be increasing so rapidly. Quoted:
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I'd bet that less than 20% of the people in America who're diagnosed with autism don't really have it. It's something of a garbage-dump diagnosis anymore. Perhaps in some cases. On the other hand, I think the medical/psychological community if finally catching up on recognizing and diagnosing certain disorders. That said, I had a conversation with my wife recently expressing my concern at what appears to be a rapidly increasing amount of autism. Looking back in my youth I can recall one or two kids that today would be classified as high functioning autistic. Today there seem to be dozens of them in a single grade at a single school, and most of them really do seem to have significant issues. I suspect a genetic link, but still don't know why it seems to be increasing so rapidly. Shane, Don't know how old you are, but when I was in College in the late 80's...we used the "DSM III" in my Psych classes (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of the American Psychiatric Association....). The definition of Autism in DSM III (1980): A. Onset before 30 months of age B. Pervasive lack of responsiveness to other people C. Gross deficits in language development D. If speech is present, peculiar speech patterns such as immediate and delayed echolalia, metaphorical language, pronominal reversal E. Bizarre responses to various aspects of the environment, e.g., resistance to change, peculiar interest in or attachments to animate or inanimate objects F. Absence of delusions, hallucinations, loosening of associations, and incoherence as in Schizophrenia. Here's the latest DSM V (2013) : A. Symptoms must be present in the early developmental period (but may not become fully manifest until social demands exceed limited capacities or may be masked by learned strategies later in life).
B. Deficits in social-emotional reciprocity must be present (or have been present earlier in development). However, these can range from abnormal social approach and failure of normal back and forth conversation through reduced sharing of interests, emotions, and affect and response to total lack of initiation of social interaction C. ASD can be diagnosed with or without accompanying language impairment D. "Peculiar speech patterns" are not required for a diagnosis. However, echolalia and idiosyncratic phrases are considered examples of Stereotyped or repetitive movements, use of objects, or speech - one of four nonsocial features (see E below) E. Any two of the following must be present (currently or earlier in development): (1) Stereotyped use of objects; (2) Insistence on sameness, inflexible adherence to routines, or ritualized patterns of verbal or nonverbal behaviour; (3) Highly restricted, fixated interests that are abnormal in intensity or focus; (4) Hyper- or hypo-reactivity to sensory input or unusual interest in sensory aspects of the environment F. Hallucinations and delusions, which are defining features of schizophrenia, are not features of ASD (This... http://crackingtheenigma.blogspot.com/2014/01/the-evolution-of-autism-comparing-dsm.html...website had a quick summary to give credit for the summary). See how broad the definition is? It used to be "Infantile Autism"...now it's "Autism Spectrum Disorder" That's a lot of the reason for the 'increase' is the significantly broadened definition. A kid that used to be 'slow' now may be labeled ASD. Schools get extra $$ for kids with diagnoses like that (and ADD, ADHD)...so there's a big push for early diagnosis (and medication). AFARR |
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Is fragile x considered a type of autism? That is also a disorder that affects the musculature in a lot of cases. According to the first line on Wikipedia on Fragile X Syndrome (take with a grain of salt) is a genetic syndrome that is the most widespread single-gene cause of autism |
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This honestly. My mother works at an elemamtary school. When i was a kid, she said they literally had no problem children. She says now. over the last ten years, its absolutely exploded. the number of autistic children with behavior problems is so large, and taxing on staff that people have quit or transferred out of the school. things from one kid throwing a teacher, [Some 5 foot tall hulk 11 year old or something] to stabbing one with a pencil. non stop screaming. some are mute. some cant look you in the eyes and stare at the floor al lthe time. Quoted:
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I'd bet that less than 20% of the people in America who're diagnosed with autism don't really have it. It's something of a garbage-dump diagnosis anymore. Perhaps in some cases. On the other hand, I think the medical/psychological community if finally catching up on recognizing and diagnosing certain disorders. That said, I had a conversation with my wife recently expressing my concern at what appears to be a rapidly increasing amount of autism. Looking back in my youth I can recall one or two kids that today would be classified as high functioning autistic. Today there seem to be dozens of them in a single grade at a single school, and most of them really do seem to have significant issues. I suspect a genetic link, but still don't know why it seems to be increasing so rapidly. This honestly. My mother works at an elemamtary school. When i was a kid, she said they literally had no problem children. She says now. over the last ten years, its absolutely exploded. the number of autistic children with behavior problems is so large, and taxing on staff that people have quit or transferred out of the school. things from one kid throwing a teacher, [Some 5 foot tall hulk 11 year old or something] to stabbing one with a pencil. non stop screaming. some are mute. some cant look you in the eyes and stare at the floor al lthe time. when you were a kid, premature babies didn't survive birth as much as they do now. I was talking with a pediatric therapist the other week, They saw strong correlations between kids with autistic type disorders and being born prematurely. |
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there are grown men, and children that scream, throw tantrums. or say inappropriate things, say mean or disgusting things. and some are violent in the form of pushing and throwing shit. people some say its autism, some say autism isnt violent. My youngest has autism and doesn't do any of that. what disorder under autism? High functioning autism, used to be called Aspergers. When I was in school, there must have been 5-10 kids in my graduating class that could have been diagnosed with aspergers. They really had a hard time. |
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Neither does mine. The only symptom she has is she doesn't talk at over 4.5 years old. She understands everything you say and ask her to do, she just can't vocalize words. I've been waiting 5 years to talk to her. Quoted:
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there are grown men, and children that scream, throw tantrums. or say inappropriate things, say mean or disgusting things. and some are violent in the form of pushing and throwing shit. people some say its autism, some say autism isnt violent. My youngest has autism and doesn't do any of that. Neither does mine. The only symptom she has is she doesn't talk at over 4.5 years old. She understands everything you say and ask her to do, she just can't vocalize words. I've been waiting 5 years to talk to her. We had to do speech therapy when she was younger, but she talks fine. She's reactive about it though, doesn't talk unless spoken to and her replies are usually very short. Probably the most frustrating things for me as a parent is the lack of emotion, extreme shyness, and the shoe tying. |
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That said, I had a conversation with my wife recently expressing my concern at what appears to be a rapidly increasing amount of autism. I think it's more of a rapid increase in the diagnosis. We had retarded kids when I was little, but everyone called them retarded kids. If they called them autistic instead, it wouldn't change the kids. |
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When I was in school, there must have been 5-10 kids in my graduating class that could have been diagnosed with aspergers. They really had a hard time. Quoted:
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there are grown men, and children that scream, throw tantrums. or say inappropriate things, say mean or disgusting things. and some are violent in the form of pushing and throwing shit. people some say its autism, some say autism isnt violent. My youngest has autism and doesn't do any of that. what disorder under autism? High functioning autism, used to be called Aspergers. When I was in school, there must have been 5-10 kids in my graduating class that could have been diagnosed with aspergers. They really had a hard time. Academics she does great A's and B's with the occasional C depending on what type of math they are doing. Socially though she doesn't do well. She told me she just keeps her had down and tries not to be noticed by anyone. |
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My son can be violent. It happens when he encounters a issue and doesn't know a solution. He becomes stressed and panicky at this point he will usually run but if corned he will become violent. Autism = bad parenting Come on, I think I qualified my opinion adequately before, but I'll do it again: I acknowledge that there are many genuine cases of autism, in all degrees of severity, but when a disorder's definition is broadened to include just about anything, there's going to be LOTS of misdiagnosing going on. Lots of shitty parents want to blame something other than themselves for kids who flip their shit over anything and everything, so they shop around until some doctor stamps the brat with an autism DX. Am I talking about your son? Nope, not at all necessarily. |
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Quoted: Come on, I think I qualified my opinion adequately before, but I'll do it again: I acknowledge that there are many genuine cases of autism, in all degrees of severity, but when a disorder's definition is broadened to include just about anything, there's going to be LOTS of misdiagnosing going on. Lots of shitty parents want to blame something other than themselves for kids who flip their shit over anything and everything, so they shop around until some doctor stamps the brat with an autism DX. Am I talking about your son? Nope, not at all necessarily. Quoted: Quoted: My son can be violent. It happens when he encounters a issue and doesn't know a solution. He becomes stressed and panicky at this point he will usually run but if corned he will become violent. Autism = bad parenting Come on, I think I qualified my opinion adequately before, but I'll do it again: I acknowledge that there are many genuine cases of autism, in all degrees of severity, but when a disorder's definition is broadened to include just about anything, there's going to be LOTS of misdiagnosing going on. Lots of shitty parents want to blame something other than themselves for kids who flip their shit over anything and everything, so they shop around until some doctor stamps the brat with an autism DX. Am I talking about your son? Nope, not at all necessarily. It's possible, and I'm sure it happens, but in my experience it is not very prevalent. Most "bad parenting" diagnoses I see now are things like Intermittent Explosive Disorder and Oppositional Defiant Disorder. With the exception of the situation I mentioned in my post above, I haven't seen many autism diagnoses that were just a cover-up for bad parenting. YMMV.
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We had to do speech therapy when she was younger, but she talks fine. She's reactive about it though, doesn't talk unless spoken to and her replies are usually very short. Probably the most frustrating things for me as a parent is the lack of emotion, extreme shyness, and the shoe tying. Quoted:
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there are grown men, and children that scream, throw tantrums. or say inappropriate things, say mean or disgusting things. and some are violent in the form of pushing and throwing shit. people some say its autism, some say autism isnt violent. My youngest has autism and doesn't do any of that. Neither does mine. The only symptom she has is she doesn't talk at over 4.5 years old. She understands everything you say and ask her to do, she just can't vocalize words. I've been waiting 5 years to talk to her. We had to do speech therapy when she was younger, but she talks fine. She's reactive about it though, doesn't talk unless spoken to and her replies are usually very short. Probably the most frustrating things for me as a parent is the lack of emotion, extreme shyness, and the shoe tying. How old is she now? Mine takes the short bus to preschool from 9 to 12 and then has speech therapy in the afternoons until 5pm. I am paying a metric fuckton to get her any and all help available. Thanks Rob |
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I should add to the above post....you see a lot more 'Mainstreaming' of kids..putting special needs kids into regular classes (can be good or very bad depending), so you'll see more 'special needs' kids in regular classrooms rather than isolated in special schools or classes. Yeah, growing up I remember a school for mentally retarded kids. That school is gone. So, did they just start sending the kids to a "regular" school? |
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It is easy to understand why someone wants an explanation/excuse that doesn't involve making the parent look inward at their own genes. Quoted:
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[dumbass] Hurr Durr vaccines cause it Hurr Durr [/dumbass] It is easy to understand why someone wants an explanation/excuse that doesn't involve making the parent look inward at their own genes. It's never happened before. I think it's vitamin D deficiency related, either during pregnancy or early development, (since nobody goes outside anymore, and if they do they cover themselves in SPF 150) or it's a result of the absolutely bizzare way children are being raised in the last 20 years. Like they're exotic pets in constant mortal danger. |
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How old is she now? Mine takes the short bus to preschool from 9 to 12 and then has speech therapy in the afternoons until 5pm. I am paying a metric fuckton to get her any and all help available. Thanks Rob She's 13 now. She had speech therapy until she was 10. She will still on occasion have trouble with words that have an "R" sound in them(girl, squirrel). Not enough that you can't make out what she is saying, but it is noticeable sometimes. |

