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5/17/2013 7:44:01 AM EDT
Why will Fudds and Bubbas buy a perfectly durable military grade firearm and then spend hundreds of dollars undoing all of the sturdy military capabilities, essentially turning it into any number of bullshit worthless "sport" style firearms?



It's like they have a mission to undo anything worthwhile and good about firearms, and goat-fuck them into looking like their uncle's remchesteringfield .270 Win '06-30 levermatic TAPCO special.





edited for those who draw a line between BUBBA and FUDD
5/17/2013 7:45:07 AM EDT
[#1]
Any specific pics you have about what your talking about?
5/17/2013 7:51:56 AM EDT
[#2]
Combat and hunting are two distinctly different applications of a firearm and the characteristics that make firearm good for combat are not necessarily the characteristics that make a good hunting gun. Its pretty simple really.

That and gun nuts love to accesorize.  Some are words then women with all their purses and shoes.
5/17/2013 7:53:27 AM EDT
[#3]
A Fudd is a person who wants the bear to eat it last.  Nothing more, nothing less.  You're trying to ascribe a motive to a broad group of people who's only real motive is, "Take his stuff, not mine."
5/17/2013 7:56:18 AM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
A Fudd is a person who wants the bear to eat it last.  Nothing more, nothing less.  You're trying to ascribe a motive to a broad group of people who's only real motive is, "Take his stuff, not mine."


This.

Not all Bubbas are Fudds, and not all Fudds are Bubbas.

But may fuck be upon them both.
5/17/2013 7:58:01 AM EDT
[#5]
OP, why do you care what someone does to their personal property? As long as they are not hurting anyone, it's their gun, they can do with it as they please, and not answer to anyone but the guy/gal in the mirror.  
5/17/2013 7:59:53 AM EDT
[#6]
Curse you, Bubba.


5/17/2013 8:04:30 AM EDT
[#7]
The first gun I ever bought at 18 was a Ishapore Enfield No. 1 Mk III and I unfortunatly bubba'd it with an ATI stock. I wanted to go deer hunting with my friends and I had no money and needed something cheap. At the time it was $79 bucks and the stock was $35. It wast until many years later that I realized what I had done to a beautiful rifle. If I could find a whole furniture set to put it back right I would, I threw away all the original wood and pieces from it.

It now sits in my safe lonely and untouched since I dont want to bring her out in the light of day and embarrass it/myself.
5/17/2013 8:06:51 AM EDT
[#8]
Why should any one else care what some one does with a gun they paid for.
5/17/2013 8:08:18 AM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
Why should any one else care what some one does with a gun they paid for.


I don't give a damn, although I cringe occasionally.  It's when they tell me I need to give up my arms so theirs are safe that I decide to fight back.
5/17/2013 8:09:01 AM EDT
[#10]
Like love, there's no accounting for taste.
5/17/2013 8:10:06 AM EDT
[#11]
Why do so many people spell it "FUDD" as though it's an acronym? It's Fudd, as in Elmer.
5/17/2013 8:11:43 AM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
Why should any one else care what some one does with a gun they paid for.


Exactly. In a time when rights are apparently up for debate/votes, I really don't give a shit what (safe) mods people make to their tools.
5/17/2013 8:12:31 AM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
Why should any one else care what some one does with a gun they paid for.


Correct.
5/17/2013 8:16:16 AM EDT
[#14]
Because you used to could buy surplus bolt actions for pennies on the dollar, then change the stock, sights, chambering, and perhaps a few other things to make a custom rifle. It used to be a fairly large part of the shooting market. I believe Roy Weatherby got started this way.

You don't see very many recent conversions of military rifles in pristine condition now because they have inherent value. People also appreciate them for what they are because there are fewer pure examples available. When you see a nice Enfield that someone turned into a partial birth abortion with a cheap stock and a ten dollar scope mounted sideways, it was probably ruined a long time ago. If not, you just met a genuine imbecile.
5/17/2013 12:29:11 PM EDT
[#15]




Quoted:

Because you used to could buy surplus bolt actions for pennies on the dollar, then change the stock, sights, chambering, and perhaps a few other things to make a custom rifle. It used to be a fairly large part of the shooting market. I believe Roy Weatherby got started this way.



You don't see very many recent conversions of military rifles in pristine condition now because they have inherent value. People also appreciate them for what they are because there are fewer pure examples available. When you see a nice Enfield that someone turned into a partial birth abortion with a cheap stock and a ten dollar scope mounted sideways, it was probably ruined a long time ago. If not, you just met a genuine imbecile.




A larger proportion of gun owners seem to be doing this these days.  People who will cut up perfectly good 1903s, Mosins, Enfields, russian SKS's, and extremely hard to find vintage .22 trainers, rather than buy some used $100 sporter .22 special or buy a used Savage Axis or Mossberg bolt action of some sort.
5/17/2013 12:34:46 PM EDT
[#16]
Guns are tools, nothing more nothing less.  They are not a sacred icon.  If someone wants/needs to modify an existing firearm to better suit their purposes, so be it.

Curious thing about this phenomena.  The board goes into convulsions at the thought of sporterizing a $100 Mosin.  But a pristine Winchester Model 12 is only useful if the barrel is hacked off and its turned into somekind of "home defense" abomination.

And God forbid you leave a 1911 stock............
5/17/2013 12:39:17 PM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
Why do so many people spell it "FUDD" as though it's an acronym? It's Fudd, as in Elmer.


FUD is an acronym from the tech industry (at least, I've seen it most there) for "Fear, Uncertainty & Doubt".  It's used to describe publicity campaigns and BS "research" backed by one major company that is trying to undermine a product or popular standard it doesn't like.

Sounds like our acronyms are intermixing.
5/17/2013 12:41:04 PM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Because you used to could buy surplus bolt actions for pennies on the dollar, then change the stock, sights, chambering, and perhaps a few other things to make a custom rifle. It used to be a fairly large part of the shooting market. I believe Roy Weatherby got started this way.

You don't see very many recent conversions of military rifles in pristine condition now because they have inherent value. People also appreciate them for what they are because there are fewer pure examples available. When you see a nice Enfield that someone turned into a partial birth abortion with a cheap stock and a ten dollar scope mounted sideways, it was probably ruined a long time ago. If not, you just met a genuine imbecile.


A larger proportion of gun owners seem to be doing this these days.  People who will cut up perfectly good 1903s, Mosins, Enfields, russian SKS's, and extremely hard to find vintage .22 trainers, rather than buy some used $100 sporter .22 special or buy a used Savage Axis or Mossberg bolt action of some sort.


I didn't see that kind of thing in Florida or New Jersey. If it is the case, they're morons. There are plenty of perfectly good new bolt guns that can be bought for what Bubba spent to destroy a vintage military rifle.
5/17/2013 12:43:24 PM EDT
[#19]
Oh, I don't know- have you seen what some people do to their AR platform guns?
5/17/2013 12:58:23 PM EDT
[#20]

While Ive seen a few former Mausers and 03's that looked rather nice , most just aint all that great of a conversion ....but regardless , how many more decades will have to pass before the original version that these Fudds started with, would have been worth 1500 -2000 dollars ?? ......or even $1000 ??
Cause Im not talking mint originals , but what most of them looked like before they were converted .....nicked , dinged , surface rust , cracked , worn , shot out ,or worse Mausers , Enfields , 03's ,even Kraigs being about the highest are what all original ? $600-$900 ?? I cant recall ...



Probably worth $50-$75 when they originally converted...maybe
I feel a little bummed when I see ghetto-fucked 64 Impala or an early Powerwagon turned into a generator-sawmill . It's a shame , but . . . .whataya gonna do ?
Any 40-50-60 year olds out there seen what a decent 70's Schwinn Stingray is worth ? How many of those did you destroy as a kid ?