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12/15/2010 8:05:06 PM EDT
have been wanting to rid my life of contacts and eye glasses for more than a decade.  Two years ago i was going to get lasik, but two days before the appt i lost my job.

I am now looking to get lasik again most likely in jan 2011.
about 15 years ago i also looked at getting the implantable lenses (intacts), but didn't due to an active lifestyle and the posibility that the intact could break and cause complications if i was struck in the eye durring sports.

This possible complication seems to have been remedied for the intra ocular lenses (IOL) that are now used.  I did not want lasik years ago due to the posibility of scar tissue negating my night driving privaliges, but now it is all laser and no knives.


enough backround.
what are your thoughts and experiences with these "products"
thanks.
12/15/2010 8:09:59 PM EDT
[#1]
I've got bad eyes, could you use a bigger font?
12/15/2010 8:15:12 PM EDT
[#2]
This is a timely thread

I do under the laser in 14 hours. I am a tad nervous, but i am told i have a very high probability of 20/20 or better correction. Time will tell.

I do not know too much about the implants, but it is my understanding that they are more expensive than lasik, and are intended for people who are not lasik candidates.
12/15/2010 8:17:47 PM EDT
[#3]
biggest mistake of my life




I got every side effect possible star bursts , halos , lose of contrast, dry eyes , can't see for shit close up because they way over corrected me



and only got 20/40 vision so still need glasses to drive
I'd give every dime and asset  I have to be able to reverse it
plus as always mentioned there was  a member here notsubby  that committed suicide after botched lasik to get a LE job





 
12/15/2010 8:18:25 PM EDT
[#4]
I've had lasik twice. My eyes were so bad that you couldn't measure it on a 20/20 scale. I forget what my prescription was but it was terrible. The first time I had it my vision was great for a few days but when I healed I was about 20/60, which was still a big improvement, however I paid for the package with unlimited updates. So i went back and did it again and i am still 20/15 2 years later. Granted if i am on the computer a lot or reading I have to get away from it for a day or two but it goes back to normal. Best money I've ever spent.
12/15/2010 8:30:32 PM EDT
[#5]
poll added.

I like big font
12/15/2010 8:45:14 PM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
biggest mistake of my life
I got every side effect possible star bursts , halos , lose of contrast, dry eyes , can't see for shit close up because they way over corrected me
and only got 20/40 vision so still need glasses to drive


I'd give every dime and asset  I have to be able to reverse it

plus as always mentioned there was  a member here notsubby  that committed suicide after botched lasik to get a LE job
 


Sorry to hear that.

My sister had it done in the late '90's she had to get a touch up a few years later.  Today she needs glasses again to drive (I think she's around 20/40).

I had it done in 2006 and it's the best thing I've done.  20/20 vision, absolutely no side effects.  My eyes were pretty bad too - don't rember the numbers, but stuff started getting blurry about 6 inches from my face; when I played baseball, I couldn't see the ball at homeplate from second base.

I paid a lot, and it was worth every dime.

ETA:  I had wavefront.
12/15/2010 8:47:41 PM EDT
[#7]
Get wavefront
12/15/2010 8:56:53 PM EDT
[#8]
Here's the place I went for Lasik and a writeup on intacts



http://www.maloneyvision.com/maloney/visian-icl.htm
12/15/2010 8:57:10 PM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
Get wavefront


Yup.  Bestest money I ever spent.  DO NOT GO CHEAP!!!!!
12/15/2010 8:57:15 PM EDT
[#10]
my wife had lasik several years ago, the glasses are gone.  she was up in the air, tit job or lasik, I said lasik.   for her benefit of course.  I love my wife, tits dont mean shit to me.  Even though she kinda wish she got the tits, she puts on her makeup withoutout glasses.  She drives without glasses.  She lives without glasses.  Soon I might need glasses.  Fact is no glasses = freedom.  She wont realize it untill she matures a bit.  Good night all.
12/15/2010 9:16:29 PM EDT
[#11]
I wasn't going to go to the discount shop.  these are my eyes you see (sorry).

the last time i hade the eval (i haven't had the new eval yet) they sold me out of the wavefront because i didn't need it.  I told them that i wanted the best results and that the $$ difference didn't bother me.

I have a job now where i cannot wear contacts (due to chemicals) and HATE glasses.  Towards the end of a 12 hr shift i get such bad headaches.  I change to the disposabe contacts jsut for the drive home remove and go to bed.

I willhave to wear safety glasses, but can remove them when i am not working with the chem.

thanks for the replies.

PS how do you subscribe to threads around here??
12/15/2010 9:20:52 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
I wasn't going to go to the discount shop.  these are my eyes you see (sorry).

the last time i hade the eval (i haven't had the new eval yet) they sold me out of the wavefront because i didn't need it.  I told them that i wanted the best results and that the $$ difference didn't bother me.

I have a job now where i cannot wear contacts (due to chemicals) and HATE glasses.  Towards the end of a 12 hr shift i get such bad headaches.  I change to the disposabe contacts jsut for the drive home remove and go to bed.

I willhave to wear safety glasses, but can remove them when i am not working with the chem.

thanks for the replies.

PS how do you subscribe to threads around here??


Step 1:  Pay $24.00
Step 2:  ????
Step 3:  Profit!
12/15/2010 9:42:16 PM EDT
[#13]
Wife had it done about 8 years ago.
She went from being able to count fingers (She couldn't even see the big E on the chart) to 20/20 after one touch up and no side effects.
12/15/2010 10:23:37 PM EDT
[#14]
Get the wave front bro. You won't be dissapointed.
12/15/2010 10:29:14 PM EDT
[#15]
I got wave front and it was the best thing I've ever done in my life. I paid somewhere around 5k but I now have around 13/20 vision and being able to wake up every morning and not worry about glasses or contacts is worth so much.

Better yet I can finally swim and open my eyes under water, my doctor graduated from Johns Hopkins and was a young very intelligent Indian guy that made me feel really comfortable. Not to mention the zanex they gave me was pretty fun too
12/15/2010 10:35:16 PM EDT
[#16]



Quoted:



Quoted:

biggest mistake of my life

I got every side effect possible star bursts , halos , lose of contrast, dry eyes , can't see for shit close up because they way over corrected me

and only got 20/40 vision so still need glasses to drive





I'd give every dime and asset  I have to be able to reverse it



plus as always mentioned there was  a member here notsubby  that committed suicide after botched lasik to get a LE job

 




Sorry to hear that.





ETA:  I had wavefront.
I did wavefront too

could always be worse I can drive and pretty much do whatever its just a annoyance



I was extremely angry at one point

as god/fate/whatever seems to like metaphorically  throwing rocks in my backpack especailly in the last 5 years and honestly the thing is getting pretty fucking heavy

and I saw a chance to get rid of one of my tiny burdens but ended up just adding another





 
12/16/2010 4:40:58 AM EDT
[#17]
I had my eyes done in 2000, and have had no problems.  I have become farsighted over the years, but that happens to almost everyone.  I might look into getting them done again in a few years, if they need it.
12/16/2010 4:47:23 AM EDT
[#18]
I had custom wavefront done 4 years ago.  Best money I have ever spent.  My contact prescription was -4.75R and -5.25L, not sure what that translates to in the 20/20 scale.  I had Lasik done and went to 20/10 and am still 20/10 today.  

Had I known 10 years ago how great it was, I would have paid 10 times as much.   I went to Lasik Plus in Orlando, Dr. Jeffrey Robbin.  He does all the Lasik for Orlando Magic and other FL pro teams and the Secret Service in the SE region.  

If you can spend a weekend in Orlando, I would HIGHLY recommend him.  After my surgery, my wife, best friend and his wife, brother and two other friends have all gone to him and had outstanding results!

ETA:  None of us have had any halos, starring, pain, dry eyes etc.
12/16/2010 4:53:26 AM EDT
[#19]
I got lasik with a custom laser about 4 months ago. I have 20/15 now, but I can say it was very very uncomfortable to get to this point. And at night I do have halos around lights now that I never had before. My last check up I told the doctor I still had them and he told me they would go away a little after the 6 month mark because he said the inside of the cornea under the flap is still healing.  



I had very dry eyes the first 3 months but they have been getting slowly better, the first think I use to have to do when I woke up in the morning was to get some moisturizing eye drops in my eyes. And now the only happens to me about once a week.



So far I'm happy with the results because I have better vision then I would have ever had with glass's, but I'm not not sure if all the pain and money was worth it yet. Only time will tell.
12/16/2010 5:17:22 AM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
biggest mistake of my life
I got every side effect possible star bursts , halos , lose of contrast, dry eyes , can't see for shit close up because they way over corrected me
and only got 20/40 vision so still need glasses to drive


I'd give every dime and asset  I have to be able to reverse it

plus as always mentioned there was  a member here notsubby  that committed suicide after botched lasik to get a LE job
 


Pretty much the same here, but now i have to have three pairs of glasses.One for reading, one for inside (basically 2' to 10' viewing),
and another for driveing and still can't see all that good out any of them.
12/16/2010 5:19:53 AM EDT
[#21]
Had lasik in '03.  Best investment I ever made.
12/16/2010 5:24:38 AM EDT
[#22]
HOW OLD ARE YOU?


I am assuming you are old enough to probably need readers with your contacts, or bifocals if in glasses?   Just understand that your near-vision changes will continue depsite the LASIK procedure.

Without knowing your glasses prescription or other things about your eyes, it can be hard to predict success or the risk of complications - but you should NOT expect the same results as anecdotal stories in these threads.   You may be 20/20, you may be "close."   Your expectations will be different from others (with different eyes) and this will color your experience, your expectations and your satisfaction with the procedure.

Generally speaking:
* you should EXPECT an increase in dry-eye feelings.   It may be mild, it may not, but expect it.
* you should EXPECT glare for months after the procedure - specifically in the winter when you're doing more night-driving.   It is annoying, but you will probably get used to it and then not even notice it after a few months.   Depending on other factors (healing, dryness, your initial correction, dumb luck, etc), some people continue to struggle with glare for years as some have stated in this thread).
* you should EXPECT to continue to need glasses for reading and other detailed tasks within arms' length (over-the-counter readers will probably be fine).
* I would invest in the wavefront procedures if possible to reduce some of the glare and blur
* I would NOT consider the "monovision" version where the surgeon focuses one eye at distance and one eye up close based on your post and intentions.   This does work for many people, but also reduces your overall comfort while driving at night, etc.  

As long as you have a good understanding of what to expect, and you trust the guy running the laser(s), I am sure you will be happy with the outcome.   But remember that nothing in life is perfect or permanent.   Your vision will continue to change subtly over the course of your life.   Overall LASIK is a pretty safe procedure with a low rate of *significant* complications.   But the risk is still there.

This is the internet, your mileage may vary, consult a professional before attempting, etc etc.
12/16/2010 5:38:23 AM EDT
[#23]
A key piece of information is missing from the replies. Price.
12/16/2010 5:42:41 AM EDT
[#24]



Quoted:


A key piece of information is missing from the replies. Price.


I had custom Lasik, with the newest laser out there that tracks your eye when you move during surgery and it also can lase any shape not just a circle like a regular laser. I now have 20/15. I paid 2277.00 with a military discount, with out the .mil discount it would have been 2750.00



 
12/16/2010 5:49:22 AM EDT
[#25]
My optometrist, a highly competent Vietnamese woman who wears a fairly strong correctly lens, told me she wouldn't do it based on her experiences with patients and the profession.

That's all I needed to hear.
12/16/2010 5:53:15 AM EDT
[#26]







Quoted:




A key piece of information is missing from the replies. Price.




I worked for the company so it was a perk that if I stayed with the company for X amount of time afterward



If I would have quit the day after the procedure I would have owed the company $3K which was their insurance/corp/group rate  normal retail price for my procedure would have been $4K



afterwords I refused to  sell the procedure or have anything to do with the lasik/PRK section and solely worked in the optic side of the business
 
12/16/2010 6:05:06 AM EDT
[#27]



Quoted:


biggest mistake of my life

I got every side effect possible star bursts , halos , lose of contrast, dry eyes , can't see for shit close up because they way over corrected me

and only got 20/40 vision so still need glasses to drive





I'd give every dime and asset  I have to be able to reverse it



plus as always mentioned there was  a member here notsubby  that committed suicide after botched lasik to get a LE job

 


Yeesh.  Sorry to hear that.  When did you have it done?



 
12/16/2010 6:07:32 AM EDT
[#28]
I got lasiked 3 years ago, and could not be happier with the out come.
12/16/2010 6:15:19 AM EDT
[#29]
Quoted:
biggest mistake of my life
I got every side effect possible star bursts , halos , lose of contrast, dry eyes , can't see for shit close up because they way over corrected me
and only got 20/40 vision so still need glasses to drive


I'd give every dime and asset  I have to be able to reverse it

plus as always mentioned there was  a member here notsubby  that committed suicide after botched lasik to get a LE job
 


me too.


OP, look up keratoconus and keratoectasia. You don't want that, trust me.

IF you procede with this, PLEASE go to a corneal specialist. WEST COAST, go to 'Beverly HIlls' doc on Roxbury. SOUTH, go to 'Chinese doc' in Nashvegas.

I know, I've been there.

Doctor TWIRE
12/16/2010 6:16:34 AM EDT
[#30]
Are you a gambling kinda guy?  Risk taker?
Ready to roll the dice with something you can't
reverse?  You only have ONE set of eyes...

I had mine done Aug 31, 2006.  My life changed,
and not for the better.  

The choice is yours my friend.
12/16/2010 6:20:23 AM EDT
[#31]
Quoted:
biggest mistake of my life
I got every side effect possible star bursts , halos , lose of contrast, dry eyes , can't see for shit close up because they way over corrected me
and only got 20/40 vision so still need glasses to drive


I'd give every dime and asset  I have to be able to reverse it

plus as always mentioned there was  a member here notsubby  that committed suicide after botched lasik to get a LE job
 


I know exactly how you feel. I'm in the SAME flooding boat.
12/16/2010 6:23:37 AM EDT
[#32]
This thread is relevant to my intrest, so I have worn contacts or glasses all my life and I'm sick of to death of both. The catch is I'm blind in my right eye and the doc's want even have a damn conversation about corrective surgery on my good eye. I know the risk, mainly BLINDNESS, but at least they could tell me something more than no.

My question is have any of you know someone in a similar situation who has gotten LASIK or wavefront?
12/16/2010 6:26:50 AM EDT
[#33]
Quoted:
This thread is relevant to my intrest, so I have worn contacts or glasses all my life and I'm sick of to death of both. The catch is I'm blind in my right eye and the doc's want even have a damn conversation about corrective surgery on my good eye. I know the risk, mainly BLINDNESS, but at least they could tell me something more than no.

My question is have any of you know someone in a similar situation who has gotten LASIK or wavefront?


Are you fucking nuts? Listen to your doctor...

12/16/2010 6:41:29 AM EDT
[#34]
I had mine done in Jan. of 2009 with the wavefront LASIK. I was -5.00 in each eye (blind as a damn bat), and although
I had heard the horror stories (especially here on arfcom more than anywhere), I elected to proceed. I'm REALLY glad I did.
I now have 20/15 in one eye and 20/20 in the other. It took about 6-8 months for the "dry eye" syndrome to go away...
and halos went away after a couple weeks.

I was really at the end of my rope though... I was starting to lose the ability to wear contacts b/c I had developed allergies
and it was becoming a major issue with my eyes. I DETEST glasses, always have. I mean hate them with an unholy
passion.

I highly reccomend researching the HELL out of your local doctors, and DO NOT let price factor into your decision.
Get the wavefront, and make sure you use a DR that uses the autotracking laser machines, and has an impeccible
reputation.

As others have said, you only have ONE pair of eyes.... don't go cheap when getting them touched up.

-ZA
12/16/2010 6:49:34 AM EDT
[#35]
This thread is pertinent to my interests also.........

So (hopefully the OP won't mind my tagging on)....

I've been told that I'll need bifocals (sooner rather than later)...and even now, I have to take my glasses off (near sighted...I think my Rx is 5.25 and 5.75) to see close things or look over or under the glasses to see near things.

I've had crappy vision since about 30 years ago.   My eyes get dry from contacts (when I was working nights), so I stay with glasses.

However....

Since I need my eyes for work (in the office and in surgery)....I don't want to take a great risk.

Can the eyes be done different times (to allow for them to settle and ensure I have at least 1 good eye)?

How many with bad near vision (for clinical/surgery stuff) after LASIK, etc.?

In your opinion, was/is it worth the risk?



AFARR
12/16/2010 6:53:18 AM EDT
[#36]
I've heard very good things about the wavelength surgery.

I had PRK done to correct farsightedness and it worked out very well.

I found out wavelength surgery isn't available for farsightedness yet.  

PRK is more painful than most surgeries but the chance of a corneal flap developing is almost nill because it isn't as invasive.

So, you might think about PRK also.
12/16/2010 9:24:30 AM EDT
[#37]



Quoted:


This thread is pertinent to my interests also.........



So (hopefully the OP won't mind my tagging on)....



I've been told that I'll need bifocals (sooner rather than later)...and even now, I have to take my glasses off (near sighted...I think my Rx is 5.25 and 5.75) to see close things or look over or under the glasses to see near things.



I've had crappy vision since about 30 years ago.   My eyes get dry from contacts (when I was working nights), so I stay with glasses.



However....



Since I need my eyes for work (in the office and in surgery)....I don't want to take a great risk.



Can the eyes be done different times (to allow for them to settle and ensure I have at least 1 good eye)?



How many with bad near vision (for clinical/surgery stuff) after LASIK, etc.?



In your opinion, was/is it worth the risk?
AFARR




You can do the eyes separately but its not recommended, the most important thing about Lasik surgery is that you need to hold still during the surgery and not close your eye or it will botch it. My doc told me lasik surgery is done by the doctor and the patient, and the patient does 80% of the work.



Also immediately after lasik surgery you have to not touch your eye at all for a month, and you have to sleep with goggles on.



I was so so so very careful because I was so afraid to be blinded and my eyes turned out great.





 
12/16/2010 9:38:05 AM EDT
[#38]
real men wears glasses, they doesnt worry about cosmetic reasons to get Lasik

I knew a person that always use to make fun of others that wore glasses like it was a sign of weakness

now this person needs glasses themselves but refuses to wear them because of cosmetic reasons, they always ask me what time is it? because they cant see well enough to read the time on the wall clock

so they never wear their glasses even though they need them

I dont think it's worth the risk

12/16/2010 11:36:50 AM EDT
[#39]
This is the only thing I have to say about the subject. I've looked into this a couple of times. Both times I've been told that I would ultimately be trading one pair of glasses for another. Instead of wearing glasses for my nearsightedness I would be wearing glasses to read in a few years after the lasik due to my age. I'll stick with what I've got. If I were 25 again instead of 55 I might think differently. YMMV
12/16/2010 12:06:58 PM EDT
[#40]
Quoted:
A key piece of information is missing from the replies. Price.


I paid $5000.00 for the lasik and another $6000.00 to try and fix what the lasik screwed up and yes the doctor was a reputable well known doctor.
Still can't see!
12/16/2010 12:10:09 PM EDT
[#41]
I wanted lasik for my 30th birthday.  I got a revolver instead.
12/16/2010 12:21:03 PM EDT
[#42]
Quoted:
I've heard very good things about the wavelength surgery.

I had PRK done to correct farsightedness and it worked out very well.

I found out wavelength surgery isn't available for farsightedness yet.  

PRK is more painful than most surgeries but the chance of a corneal flap developing is almost nill because it isn't as invasive.

So, you might think about PRK also.


I had the same procedure done for nearsightedness and love it. Its nice never having to wear glasses again.
12/16/2010 12:59:51 PM EDT
[#43]



Quoted:


real men wears glasses, they doesnt worry about cosmetic reasons to get Lasik



I knew a person that always use to make fun of others that wore glasses like it was a sign of weakness



now this person needs glasses themselves but refuses to wear them because of cosmetic reasons, they always ask me what time is it? because they cant see well enough to read the time on the wall clock



so they never wear their glasses even though they need them



I dont think it's worth the risk







My job in the military requires me to wear ballistic goggles on mission that my prescription glasses didn't fit under. So I had to choose between wearing ballistic goggles that would stop shrapnel from blinding me or perscription glass's. I didn't like having to make that choice. That's why I got lasik, it had nothing to do with anything cosmetic.





 
12/16/2010 1:05:07 PM EDT
[#44]
I had PRK in the Army, and I love it. I want to get my wife to get it but shes a little nervous

I have had zero problems
12/16/2010 2:00:14 PM EDT
[#45]
My eyesight was 20/70 in one eye and 20/200 in the other.  I had lasik done in Jan 2001 (I was 37) .  Best $1800 I ever spent.  I ended up with 20/15 after everything healed.  I did it because glasses were giving me headaches and my eyes did not like contacts.  Now after 10 years I still have 20/20 in my right eye (blind in my left eye but not because of the surgery).
12/16/2010 2:04:54 PM EDT
[#46]
if you have dry eye-dont.
12/16/2010 5:47:55 PM EDT
[#47]
I did the wavefront, and it is great, opening my eyes and being able to see, and not have to grope around for glasses.  Worth every cent of what I paid.
12/16/2010 5:49:35 PM EDT
[#48]
PRK
12/16/2010 6:08:13 PM EDT
[#49]
ASA
12/16/2010 6:10:28 PM EDT
[#50]
Someone please tell me what is wavefront?  Also, is there any procedure that does not require them to cut that flap on your eye?  I would love to have my eyes corrected, but that flap thing really weirds me out.  If they all require it, then I will have alot to think about prior to making that kind of decision.  

Also, I appreciate the caution that a few members express on eye correction.  The docs are messing with something that is irreplaceable.  My cousin's husband was one of the first to get it done many years ago when it came to Richmond.  He was legally blind in one eye, and pretty bad in the other.  He wound up with great vision in both eyes, eliminated the contacts, and has not had any trouble.  Another friend had it done and has been generally happy with it.  Alot of good stories out there, but again the few bad ones should give anyone pause.
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