[ARCHIVED THREAD] - FNH P90 Secret Service Loadout (Page 1 of 3)
Posted: 1/30/2016 5:06:20 PM EDT
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Wanted to bring these thread back again seeing how the old one is now archived.
I now know that 'loadout' and 'air soft' are synonymous, but wanted to use the same title so history isn't lost. Update: I learned the hard way that aftermarket mags for the PS90 jam up on AE rounds so I splurged and bought 6 FNH 50 rounders. So far these have worked great with FNH & AE. I haven't found any EA to purchase yet, but I'm told the OEM mags will work well with them too. My next purchase will be an optic, and if I recall the original thread, someone posted a pic of a P90 using a M68 CCO...? |
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I like the secret service patch. Very secretive. 
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We got to blast away a metric fuckload of frangible rounds at a FLETC firearms instructor class. Those things got hot as hell is all I can say. They were a little frightening since the manual of arms is different from most other things we shoot and ungloved guys were getting burned. |
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Quoted: It doesn't need to feel nice, it just needs to work. Quoted: Quoted: I was at a machinegun shoot a few years back and the Magpul guys let me check out a P90. I could not believe how flimsy and cheap it felt. It doesn't need to feel nice, it just needs to work. I understand that but it was remarkable just how chintzy it felt. It was two plastic halves attached generally but if you gripped it hard in certain places or torqued on it a bit it kind of flexed in a way that didn't really inspire confidence. I realize the parts that matter are metal but, to me, it was amazing for an FN to feel so cheap. |
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A lot of departments have dumped them because of incapacitation issues.
The round just doesn't stop threats reliably enough, IMHO. Which is a shame, because the guns built around it are excellent. I had a postie P90 (which I bought for a song from a department that got rid of theirs), it was crazy controllable. |
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It's a sweet holding, super smooth running, tack driving pretzel though. 
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If they ever redesign the chassis not to look like a pretzel, I'll get one. It's a sweet holding, super smooth running, tack driving pretzel though.
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That thing is hotter than Jennifer Lawrence raping Natalie Portman 
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If they allowed good ammo in the hands of civilians, I might consider one. Fuck them. Txl Eh at this point I don't blame them for being cautionary of the ATF especially given all the fun with M855 and 7n6 we've had. The PS90/Five Seven have been a point of controversy on their own. All that "Cop-Killer Bullets" crap the media loves. FNH has done a great job bringing military weapons designs to the civy market. FS2000, PS90, and SCAR for starters. They just released a M249 semi. I don't know how much more support for civilians you can ask for from them. 
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errr mah gawd!!!!!! |
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I came |
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Quoted: I understand that but it was remarkable just how chintzy it felt. It was two plastic halves attached generally but if you gripped it hard in certain places or torqued on it a bit it kind of flexed in a way that didn't really inspire confidence. I realize the parts that matter are metal but, to me, it was amazing for an FN to feel so cheap. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I was at a machinegun shoot a few years back and the Magpul guys let me check out a P90. I could not believe how flimsy and cheap it felt. It doesn't need to feel nice, it just needs to work. I understand that but it was remarkable just how chintzy it felt. It was two plastic halves attached generally but if you gripped it hard in certain places or torqued on it a bit it kind of flexed in a way that didn't really inspire confidence. I realize the parts that matter are metal but, to me, it was amazing for an FN to feel so cheap. |
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If it was good enough for SG1 it certainly is for us too.. I'd rather have a Zat. I'd rather have this. http://www.propbay.com/attachments/original/11186d1388697641-hero-ronon-dex-metal-blaster-img_1940.jpg http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/4/4a/Ronon'sgun7.jpg/500px-Ronon'sgun7.jpg 
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A lot of departments have dumped them because of incapacitation issues. The round just doesn't stop threats reliably enough, IMHO. Which is a shame, because the guns built around it are excellent. I had a postie P90 (which I bought for a song from a department that got rid of theirs), it was crazy controllable. I remember reading an article by a guy in the know that said all the benefits of the 90 were negated by its small round. It meant more rounds were needed to stop the threat which meant more time on that threat. He summed it up by saying it was best to pick another firearm. |
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That thing is hotter than Jennifer Lawrence raping Natalie Portman Let's not go overboard here. |
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I understand that but it was remarkable just how chintzy it felt. It was two plastic halves attached generally but if you gripped it hard in certain places or torqued on it a bit it kind of flexed in a way that didn't really inspire confidence. I realize the parts that matter are metal but, to me, it was amazing for an FN to feel so cheap. Quoted:
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I was at a machinegun shoot a few years back and the Magpul guys let me check out a P90. I could not believe how flimsy and cheap it felt. It doesn't need to feel nice, it just needs to work. I understand that but it was remarkable just how chintzy it felt. It was two plastic halves attached generally but if you gripped it hard in certain places or torqued on it a bit it kind of flexed in a way that didn't really inspire confidence. I realize the parts that matter are metal but, to me, it was amazing for an FN to feel so cheap. I wonder what would happen if it was handled roughly under antagonistic situations. |
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I would rather have a first gen no chrome lined barreled M-16. Quoted:
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If it was good enough for SG1 it certainly is for us too.. I'd rather have a Zat. I would rather have a first gen no chrome lined barreled M-16. I think the first hand cannon would be awesome for anyone's collection. |
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I think the first hand cannon would be awesome for anyone's collection. Quoted:
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If it was good enough for SG1 it certainly is for us too.. I'd rather have a Zat. I would rather have a first gen no chrome lined barreled M-16. I think the first hand cannon would be awesome for anyone's collection. You see the cycle rate on that piece of shit. Plus, NOT A REAL THING. |
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Mmmmm PS90, no likey the stock cast receiver though... http://i1306.photobucket.com/albums/s574/VrodRay/10878eed68e332ea0112f4a533ed871b_zps2kth634x.jpg The offset for that sight seems... Excessive. |
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I like it BUT..... No Last round Hold open. For a +$1000 gun I'd expect that. With a happy switch that doesn't really matter but in semi, it's important to me. Just my opinion, if you don't agree that's fine. No LRHO isn't the end of the world. It's a European thing. 
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No LRHO isn't the end of the world. It's a European thing. Quoted:
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I like it BUT..... No Last round Hold open. For a +$1000 gun I'd expect that. With a happy switch that doesn't really matter but in semi, it's important to me. Just my opinion, if you don't agree that's fine. No LRHO isn't the end of the world. It's a European thing. yea, I know. It's just a pet peeve of mine. I know certain people are fine without it, but I need it. |
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Quoted: yea, I know. It's just a pet peeve of mine. I know certain people are fine without it, but I need it. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I like it BUT..... No Last round Hold open. For a +$1000 gun I'd expect that. With a happy switch that doesn't really matter but in semi, it's important to me. Just my opinion, if you don't agree that's fine. No LRHO isn't the end of the world. It's a European thing. yea, I know. It's just a pet peeve of mine. I know certain people are fine without it, but I need it. What happened to fuck BHO? |
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I understand that but it was remarkable just how chintzy it felt. It was two plastic halves attached generally but if you gripped it hard in certain places or torqued on it a bit it kind of flexed in a way that didn't really inspire confidence. I realize the parts that matter are metal but, to me, it was amazing for an FN to feel so cheap. Quoted:
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I was at a machinegun shoot a few years back and the Magpul guys let me check out a P90. I could not believe how flimsy and cheap it felt. It doesn't need to feel nice, it just needs to work. I understand that but it was remarkable just how chintzy it felt. It was two plastic halves attached generally but if you gripped it hard in certain places or torqued on it a bit it kind of flexed in a way that didn't really inspire confidence. I realize the parts that matter are metal but, to me, it was amazing for an FN to feel so cheap. FCG is polymer too, from what I recall |
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Quoted: The offset for that sight seems... Excessive. Quoted: Quoted: Mmmmm PS90, no likey the stock cast receiver though... http://i1306.photobucket.com/albums/s574/VrodRay/10878eed68e332ea0112f4a533ed871b_zps2kth634x.jpg The offset for that sight seems... Excessive. |
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What laser is on that? |
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Quoted: The offset for that sight seems... Excessive. Quoted: Quoted: Mmmmm PS90, no likey the stock cast receiver though... http://i1306.photobucket.com/albums/s574/VrodRay/10878eed68e332ea0112f4a533ed871b_zps2kth634x.jpg The offset for that sight seems... Excessive. Look at the fucking thing. How do you think you get a cheek weld behind an optic with that fucking thing? |
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Look at the fucking thing. How do you think you get a cheek weld behind an optic with that fucking thing? Quoted:
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Mmmmm PS90, no likey the stock cast receiver though... http://i1306.photobucket.com/albums/s574/VrodRay/10878eed68e332ea0112f4a533ed871b_zps2kth634x.jpg The offset for that sight seems... Excessive. Look at the fucking thing. How do you think you get a cheek weld behind an optic with that fucking thing? Yeah I was thinking the same thing. LOL "proper cheek weld". More like second-chin weld |
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Quoted: Yeah I was thinking the same thing. LOL "proper cheek weld". More like second-chin weld Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Mmmmm PS90, no likey the stock cast receiver though... http://i1306.photobucket.com/albums/s574/VrodRay/10878eed68e332ea0112f4a533ed871b_zps2kth634x.jpg The offset for that sight seems... Excessive. Look at the fucking thing. How do you think you get a cheek weld behind an optic with that fucking thing? Yeah I was thinking the same thing. LOL "proper cheek weld". More like second-chin weld |
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What laser is on that? Steiner/LDI CQBL https://tnvc.com/shop/ldi-cqbl-1-class1-ir-laser/ |
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I remember reading an article by a guy in the know that said all the benefits of the 90 were negated by its small round. It meant more rounds were needed to stop the threat which meant more time on that threat. He summed it up by saying it was best to pick another firearm. Quoted:
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A lot of departments have dumped them because of incapacitation issues. The round just doesn't stop threats reliably enough, IMHO. Which is a shame, because the guns built around it are excellent. I had a postie P90 (which I bought for a song from a department that got rid of theirs), it was crazy controllable. I remember reading an article by a guy in the know that said all the benefits of the 90 were negated by its small round. It meant more rounds were needed to stop the threat which meant more time on that threat. He summed it up by saying it was best to pick another firearm. I can't say anything about a random article from a random guy "in the know" that I have not read but since a ton of people here love to compare the 5.7 with the 5.56 without any other qualifier I can tell you that landing multiple shots with the 5.7 vs the 5.56 on the same platform is a no contest. The 5.7 destroys the 5.56 in rapid fire. I've got a 12" AR57 upper on a pistol lower and it has significantly less recoil than even my 16" 5.56 HBAR rifle shouldered. My lightweight 11" 5.56 SBR isn't even worth comparing. The 5.7 isn't designed to compete with the 5.56 but if that is what you want to do I'd be pretty confident in saying that within a realistic self defense range if I put my AR57 upper on my SBR lower I could put six 5.7 rounds on target faster than I could land three 5.56 rounds no matter the configuration of the upper. |
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