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1/27/2005 1:22:52 PM EDT
Vote vote vote!
1/27/2005 1:26:49 PM EDT
[#1]
Argh! I didn't realize it was multiple choice.  I forgot to also check "I hate the brady crowd"
1/27/2005 1:28:30 PM EDT
[#2]

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Argh! I didn't realize it was multiple choice.  I forgot to also check "I hate the brady crowd"



Hell, that's the only reason I made it multiple choice! So we could take some free shots at the Brady Crowd!
1/27/2005 1:29:14 PM EDT
[#3]
I bought an FN FiveseveN and 750 rounds of ss192 last Monday for no other reason than the fact that the Brady Bunch wants to ban them.

Was it smart? I'm begining to wonder. I could have gotten myself a couple of USP's with that money!


C'est la vie!
1/27/2005 1:29:32 PM EDT
[#4]
No, I wanted one anyway.

Edited to add:

1/27/2005 1:29:52 PM EDT
[#5]

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I bought an FN FiveseveN and 750 rounds of ss192 last Monday for no other reason than the fact that the Brady Bunch wants to ban them.

Was it smart? I'm begining to wonder. I could have gotten myself a couple of USP's with that money!


C'est la vie!



Just think, if it gets banned you can hold onto it for 5 years and sell it for double what you bought it for!
1/27/2005 1:32:04 PM EDT
[#6]
Not going to buy a 50 cal either, though I would like one.  5k and up is a bit rich.

Aside from the price, I think the FN Five-Seven is kind of ugly.  I'll spend my money on a nice 1911.

1/27/2005 2:20:19 PM EDT
[#7]
I never knew I needed one so badly until the commie democrats started whining about banning it.
1/27/2005 2:23:03 PM EDT
[#8]
Overhyped .22 or .17 nothing special and the price has went up $150 since Brady started ranting.
1/27/2005 2:27:29 PM EDT
[#9]
I'm beginning to wonder if the gun makers are paying the anti-gun crowd to hype their wares.
1/27/2005 2:27:44 PM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
No, I wanted one anyway.


+1
1/27/2005 3:36:47 PM EDT
[#11]
yes

but i still cant till i'm 21 in OCT>!!!!!!

G_dam brady bit*es--cant they just mind thier own bussiness
1/27/2005 5:44:29 PM EDT
[#12]

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yes

but i still cant till i'm 21 in OCT>!!!!!!

G_dam brady bit*es--cant they just mind thier own bussiness



I can't get one until April 2006. By that time they'll have banned everything except for BB guns now regulated under NFA law.
1/27/2005 6:35:46 PM EDT
[#13]
I still don't understand the facination with a handgun that has such crappy terminal ballistics...

-Troy
1/27/2005 6:42:02 PM EDT
[#14]
Don't forget to disable the gay-ass magazine safety!

That way its less safe too!
1/27/2005 6:56:53 PM EDT
[#15]

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yes

but i still cant till i'm 21 in OCT>!!!!!!

G_dam brady bit*es--cant they just mind thier own bussiness



I can't get one until April 2006. By that time they'll have banned everything except for BB guns now regulated under NFA law.



damn

as to why to own, i dont know, guess its just casue its a novelty
1/27/2005 7:03:29 PM EDT
[#16]

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I still don't understand the facination with a handgun that has such crappy terminal ballistics...

-Troy



Some companies have better marketing departments. I think FN hired the Brady bunch to hype this overpolished turd.
1/27/2005 7:14:22 PM EDT
[#17]

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I still don't understand the facination with a handgun that has such crappy terminal ballistics...

-Troy



Because it is extremely accurate and it's fun to shoot. Not every gun has to be a tool, some can be toys too.
1/27/2005 7:32:56 PM EDT
[#18]
Brady this, This baby was in my possesion 2 months before the SHTF

1/27/2005 7:41:05 PM EDT
[#19]
The 5.7 does nothing for me
1/28/2005 3:08:01 AM EDT
[#20]
I bought mine last summer,and the bought the hi-caps for it when the ban expired.I had a feeling they would start screwing with it sooner or later
1/28/2005 3:22:46 AM EDT
[#21]
I did this poll a week ago. It was two to one NO. I might, if I can spare the cash after taxes.

www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=314562
1/28/2005 3:35:08 AM EDT
[#22]
I was going to buy one but I decided I rather buy an HK Mark 23. Arvin
1/28/2005 3:37:57 AM EDT
[#23]
I havent thought much on getting one.  Maybe at some point but its not high on my list.  If I see one at a good deal today though, Id buy it.
1/28/2005 3:08:54 PM EDT
[#24]

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I was going to buy one but I decided I rather buy an HK Mark 23. Arvin



You'll be much happier with the new Mk23 Mod1, which is a "Tactical" version of the USP Compact .45.

-Troy
1/28/2005 3:11:58 PM EDT
[#25]

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No, I wanted one anyway.

Edited to add:

www.node3.net/something_missing.jpg



Is that a hi-cap clip for that 5-7 there!?  




Nice...nice...I'd like to finger-fuck one before I buy one.

HK Mk23...it will have to come...first.
1/28/2005 3:18:22 PM EDT
[#26]
didn't want one before the whoo haa.

if they ban them i will probobly buy one just to piss off the brady bunch.
1/28/2005 3:32:13 PM EDT
[#27]

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Is that a hi-cap clip for that 5-7 there!?  



The big one?  No, it's a P90 mag.
1/28/2005 3:34:13 PM EDT
[#28]
The fiveseven is a high quality mini AR, and a blast to shoot. Try it, you might love it. Rapid fire all 20 round with complete control. It's a pocket AR...sort of speak. Mine (pictured above) has the gloved trigger guard, I wear tatical glove in the winter. That works for me.
1/28/2005 3:42:16 PM EDT
[#29]

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I never knew I needed one so badly until the commie democrats started whining about banning it.



DITTO.
1/28/2005 3:48:43 PM EDT
[#30]
I can't see any good use for this pistol.
1/28/2005 3:57:28 PM EDT
[#31]

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I can't see any good use for this pistol.



And your point would be.... ?
1/28/2005 4:05:03 PM EDT
[#32]

Quoted:
I still don't understand the facination with a handgun that has such crappy terminal ballistics...

-Troy



The ability to penetrate soft body armor with an easy to conceal firearm.  the SS192 is an excellent round to wound someone who is wearing body armor with.  it doesnt really do anything else well though.
1/28/2005 4:06:50 PM EDT
[#33]

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I can't see any good use for this pistol.



Getting out of traffic tickets and DUI arrests.  robbing banks.  that's about it.
1/28/2005 4:23:36 PM EDT
[#34]

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I can't see any good use for this pistol.



Getting out of traffic tickets and DUI arrests.  robbing banks.  that's about it.



Brady bunch kool-aid drinkers, now at AR15.com
1/28/2005 4:33:08 PM EDT
[#35]

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I can't see any good use for this pistol.



Getting out of traffic tickets and DUI arrests.  robbing banks.  that's about it.


www.hektik.org/gallery/albums/random/koolaid.jpg
Brady bunch kool-aid drinkers, now at AR15.com



So what else does the SS192 round do well?  It's not a good round for self defense due to its 22LR like terminal balistics, it unlikely anyone is using a 20rnd handgun for small game hunting, its not a good plinking round becuase of its high cost.  For almost any purpose other than a concealable pistol that pentreates soft body armor, there are bettter picks.


I can at least respect the people that admit that's what they want it for.  But there are just as many denying that's what they want it for, yet are rushing to get SS192 ammo.
1/28/2005 4:49:01 PM EDT
[#36]

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I can't see any good use for this pistol.



Getting out of traffic tickets and DUI arrests.  robbing banks.  that's about it.


www.hektik.org/gallery/albums/random/koolaid.jpg
Brady bunch kool-aid drinkers, now at AR15.com



So what else does the SS192 round do well?  It's not a good round for self defense due to its 22LR like terminal balistics, it unlikely anyone is using a 20rnd handgun for small game hunting, its not a good plinking round becuase of its high cost.  For almost any purpose other than a concealable pistol that pentreates soft body armor, there are bettter picks.


I can at least respect the people that admit that's what they want it for.  But there are just as many denying that's what they want it for, yet are rushing to get SS192 ammo.


So our RKBA should be at your whim?  Hell, you guys got the congress to ban specifically designed (steel, tungsten, etc.) AP ammo, even though no cop had ever been shot by it.  

And that was apparently not enough.  So, what objective standard do you propose to keep us lowly serfs in line master?  Banning cartridges at a whim?  That's the prohibitionists wet dream right there (I only don't say your wet dream, because you don't seem to be a complete prohibitionist).

The only thing we'll have then under a Clinton presidency, is Airsoft.  Some friend to gun owners you are.
1/28/2005 4:57:04 PM EDT
[#37]
Nope. It would be about #8 or #10 on the shopping list.
1/28/2005 5:49:10 PM EDT
[#38]

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I can't see any good use for this pistol.



Getting out of traffic tickets and DUI arrests.  robbing banks.  that's about it.


www.hektik.org/gallery/albums/random/koolaid.jpg
Brady bunch kool-aid drinkers, now at AR15.com



So what else does the SS192 round do well?  It's not a good round for self defense due to its 22LR like terminal balistics, it unlikely anyone is using a 20rnd handgun for small game hunting, its not a good plinking round becuase of its high cost.  For almost any purpose other than a concealable pistol that pentreates soft body armor, there are bettter picks.


I can at least respect the people that admit that's what they want it for.  But there are just as many denying that's what they want it for, yet are rushing to get SS192 ammo.


So our RKBA should be at your whim?  



No, I have never advocated banning the 5.7, P90, or SS192 ammo.  I do advocate honesty though. even when the honest answers might portray FN or gun owners in a bad PR light.  

1/28/2005 6:03:35 PM EDT
[#39]

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I can't see any good use for this pistol.



Getting out of traffic tickets and DUI arrests.  robbing banks.  that's about it.


www.hektik.org/gallery/albums/random/koolaid.jpg
Brady bunch kool-aid drinkers, now at AR15.com



So what else does the SS192 round do well?  It's not a good round for self defense due to its 22LR like terminal balistics, it unlikely anyone is using a 20rnd handgun for small game hunting, its not a good plinking round becuase of its high cost.  For almost any purpose other than a concealable pistol that pentreates soft body armor, there are bettter picks.


I can at least respect the people that admit that's what they want it for.  But there are just as many denying that's what they want it for, yet are rushing to get SS192 ammo.


So our RKBA should be at your whim?  



No, I have never advocated banning the 5.7, P90, or SS192 ammo.  I do advocate honesty though. even when the honest answers might portray FN or gun owners in a bad PR light.  



Perhaps I've misjudged you somewhat then, and I apologize.  However, I don't think everyone's motives here are as low as you paint them.  People are touchy about possible bans here, you should understand that .  That would be the motivation behind all the furor, not to buy someting to kill cops.

I don't think that FN purposely marketed SS192 and the 5.7 to endanger LEOs.  In fact, I believe it's the only non-AP (legal definition) ammo in wide availability for the 5.7.  SS196 has just been introduced to address the issues you brought up.

FN has also been taking a bath, apparently, in the LEO/Gov't market with the 5.7 and the 5.7x28 round, so civilian sales may be the only thing that will guarntee future availibility to LEO agencies if they ever want to buy the 5.7 or P90 in the future.  It's just not selling that well.  Same thing kept Barrett alive in the 80s, apparently.