Posted: 5/6/2010 7:24:52 PM EDT
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http://www.fnherstal.com/index.php?id=623 May 6, 2010 FN Herstal, S.A. (FN) received notification from the USSOCOM Program Executive Office—SOF Warrior (PEO—SW) that the SCAR Acquisition Decision Memorandum (ADM) was approved and signed on April 14, 2010, moving this FN program into the Milestone C phase. This decision authorizes the production and deployment of the Special Operations Forces (SOF) Combat Assault Rifle (SCAR) MK 16 and MK 17, as well as the Enhanced Grenade Launcher Module (EGLM) MK 13. Following a worldwide solicitation to the military firearms industry, nine vendors submitted a dozen different designs for a new modular, multi-caliber weapons system. The FN SCAR submission was the only weapons system to pass all of the Go/No-Go criteria and was unanimously chosen in November 2004 by the selection board composed of senior operators from every SOF component. The SCAR is the first new assault rifle procured by the U.S. Military through a full and open competition since the M16 trials were held in the mid-1960s. Tests in reliability, accuracy, safety and ergonomics were administered from August 2005 to September 2008 and were conducted in a variety of environments including urban, maritime, jungle and winter/mountain operational test scenarios. The SCAR weapons system successfully endured more than two million rounds of ammunition during these trials, therein making it one of the most heavily tested weapons in the history of small arms. consists of two highly adaptable modular rifle platforms and a grenade launcher. Type-designated as the MK 16 MOD 0 5.56mm Special Operations Forces Combat Assault Rifle and the MK 17 MOD 0 7.62mm Special Operations Forces Combat Assault Rifle, both weapons are available with three different barrel lengths optimized for conducting operations in close-quarters combat, standard infantry and longer-range precision fire roles. All SCAR barrels can be easily interchanged by the operator in just minutes to instantly meet the requirements of virtually any mission. The MK 13 MOD 0 40mm Enhanced Grenade Launcher Module (EGLM) quickly mounts under the barrel of either SCAR platform, providing additional capability to the individual warfighter’s firepower, and can be easily configured for use as a stand-alone weapon as well. Because of the SCAR system’s modular design, ergonomic commonality (100%) and parts commonality (greater than 80%), it represents a significant reduction in training costs and life-cycle support. The weapon system’s open architecture is designed to support future advancements in operational requirements including ammunition, aiming devices, sighting systems and other mission critical equipment. http://www.fnhusa.com/le/press/detail.asp?id=82 “The SCAR is one of the most tested small arms in our military’s history and is currently being employed in the fight to defend freedom,” said United States Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC), member of the Senate Armed Services Committee. “Products of excellence, like the SCAR, represent the continuation of a long and proud tradition of defense manufacturing in South Carolina. I look forward to the continued use of this weapons system.” “The SCAR weapons system is a major USSOCOM program whose success is a direct result of the effort, commitment and teamwork provided by FN and the U.S. Government. We are extremely pleased to have had the opportunity to work with such a strong team in achieving the Milestone C decision,” said Mark Cherpes, Vice President of Military Operations for FNH USA. “This milestone signifies that our products are operationally effective and suitable for mass fielding. We believe that the SCAR is the most flexible, reliable and cost-effective small arms weapons system ever offered to America’s servicemen and women, and that it will give them a significant operational advantage in both present and future conflicts.” Cool.  |
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Are the rumors of the H (.308) version hitting the civilian market true?, and is their an ETA? I heard in 30 days. I'll look for the thread where I found that number. If you're nice you won't, I don't need to drop upwards of $3k on another rifle.  I'd say if you give me $20 I won't find it..................
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Are the rumors of the H (.308) version hitting the civilian market true?, and is their an ETA? I heard in 30 days. I'll look for the thread where I found that number. If you're nice you won't, I don't need to drop upwards of $3k on another rifle. I'd say if you give me $20 I won't find it.................. I'm on here enough I'm sure there will be a thread plus 10 dupes when it hits the market.
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Scar H not taking .30 cal Pmag= DO NOT WANT. Isn't Magpul going to sell Pmags for the G36 and SIG? If the H is even remotely popular (which it will be) what makes you think they won't make one for it? Given how much the Sf is liking the heavy and the probable heavy intrest in the cvy world, i betting next year shot show. Though a lot of people think that it uses modified FAL mags 
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More on the SCAR-H http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=1037290 |
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Doesn't the SCAR convert to left or right hand ejection by flipping the receiver around or something like that? sure if you turned the gun around to shoot backwards it would eject to the other side, but i think it would be a little hard to aim with the gun pointing backwards
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Does it do anything the M16/M4 family doesn't? Stock folds Well thats useful  Maybe it could be useful for those who need a really compact weapon... as in, those who drive vehicles. From what I have heard: Lower recoil Folding stock Did not jam as much in the dust test (I would not know if that really means anything..) And, IMO, a better location for the charging handle... though it seems to get in the way. I guess if they can make it down turned, it would avoid this issue? |
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Does it do anything the M16/M4 family doesn't? Stock folds Well thats useful Maybe it could be useful for those who need a really compact weapon... as in, those who drive vehicles. From what I have heard: Lower recoil Folding stock Did not jam as much in the dust test (I would not know if that really means anything..) And, IMO, a better location for the charging handle... though it seems to get in the way. I guess if they can make it down turned, it would avoid this issue? +1 on everything you said. Only thing I will replace on my SCAR is the safety selector, needs to be a little bigger. So far my favorite thing I would say is the stock. I love the adjustable cheek pad, can finaly get a good cheek rest, everything about the SCAR to me is better then a AR15. |
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Does it do anything the M16/M4 family doesn't? Stock folds Well thats useful Maybe it could be useful for those who need a really compact weapon... as in, those who drive vehicles. From what I have heard: Lower recoil Folding stock Did not jam as much in the dust test (I would not know if that really means anything..) And, IMO, a better location for the charging handle... though it seems to get in the way. I guess if they can make it down turned, it would avoid this issue? +1 on everything you said. Only thing I will replace on my SCAR is the safety selector, needs to be a little bigger. So far my favorite thing I would say is the stock. I love the adjustable cheek pad, can finaly get a good cheek rest, everything about the SCAR to me is better then a AR15. Ironically, Magpul makes a SCAR safety selector replacement... I guess after the ACR's price and what seems like disappointment, they might as well cash on the SCAR. Worse comes to worse, they can make money off of both!
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Does it do anything the M16/M4 family doesn't? Stock folds Well thats useful Maybe it could be useful for those who need a really compact weapon... as in, those who drive vehicles. From what I have heard: Lower recoil Folding stock Did not jam as much in the dust test (I would not know if that really means anything..) And, IMO, a better location for the charging handle... though it seems to get in the way. I guess if they can make it down turned, it would avoid this issue? +1 on everything you said. Only thing I will replace on my SCAR is the safety selector, needs to be a little bigger. So far my favorite thing I would say is the stock. I love the adjustable cheek pad, can finaly get a good cheek rest, everything about the SCAR to me is better then a AR15. Ironically, Magpul makes a SCAR safety selector replacement... I guess after the ACR's price and what seems like disappointment, they might as well cash on the SCAR. Worse comes to worse, they can make money off of both! if they would make a MIAD that bolted on with out having to mod it I would be perfect |
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Even better would be if they worked with Pmags. I didn't know they didn't until using one at the range yesterday.
ETA: I read a bunch of posts with people saying they were using P-mags but no one commented on the issue I saw. It wasn't that they wouldn't insert or drop free, it was that the bolt could not close with them in place, it would be stuck behind them due to the v-notch rather than fully cut rectangle behind the rounds. If there's a solution other than just cutting the notch out, please let me know via pm so I can pass it along, the owner isn't a member here. I don't have any E-Mags so I can't look to see how they compare.but all my pmags are the same in that respect. The recoil was interesting, kind of spread out in time. You pulled the trigger, felt the rifle fire, and then a fraction of a second later there was recoil that felt like a sliding motion of the gun rather than a direct push to your shoulder. Very odd but not bad at all. I did find that overall it felt bulky to me, but not terribly so, I just like more slim and streamlined firearms. As others have said, if the price gets under 2k and I have the cash I'd seriously consider one, but an OBR or precision bolt action rifle with a magazine is next. |
