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11/10/2005 9:49:18 AM EDT
I am stuck with a dilema, I am sitting with Shawn Alexander, Larry Johnson and Stephan Davis as my running backs but my QB situation is bleak, Bledsoe, Farve and Brad Johnson. I am thinking of trading one of my top backs either Alexander or Johnson for Manning or McNabb. It would probably be a Johnson for McNabb or Johnson for Manning trade.
Any of you gurus have thoughts on this.....
11/10/2005 9:56:55 AM EDT
[#1]
Trade Davis......
11/10/2005 10:01:44 AM EDT
[#2]
DONT TRADE!
Bledsoe and Favre are both in the top 6.
Why would you trade to get a minimal upgrade at qb?
Keep the extra back handy for when Stephen Davis goes down like he does every year.
Dont let a couple bad Favre weeks get to you.
You have two very good qb's .
Tim
11/10/2005 10:02:05 AM EDT
[#3]
Bledsoe is having a good year so far but if you want a better QB i wouldnt go with Mcnabb after losing Owens and his injuries I dont think he will be the best choice.

I would keep shaun alexander because he is going to have a awesome year

just my option
cody
11/10/2005 10:19:58 AM EDT
[#4]
Depends on how many RBs and QBs you start. IMHO, you can never have enough RBs. I'd rather have a good backup on my bench. In fact, I'd think about trading one of your QBs for another RB.

BTW, with T.O. gone Philly is going to have to run the ball more, so McNabb's value takes a slight dip.
11/10/2005 10:20:41 AM EDT
[#5]
I don't think McNabb is an upgrade and with Holmes missing the rest of the season LJ is going to be an ANIMAL
11/10/2005 10:56:53 AM EDT
[#6]
You don't think Manning will be an upgrade, I picked up Deshawn Foster as a backup for Davis and if Manning gets his numbers up he is a monster. I am torn damnit
11/10/2005 11:33:38 AM EDT
[#7]
[quote]Quoted:
You don't think Manning will be an upgrade, I picked up Deshawn Foster as a backup for Davis and if Manning gets his numbers up he is a monster. I am torn damnit


If its a standard scoring league here are the weekly fantasy point averages:
Favre 16
Bledsoe 15
Manning 15

TD only league:
Favre 15tds
Manning 14tds
Bledsoe 14tds

Save the extra stud back for any injuries that come up.
Foster is useless at this point unless Davis goes down but if Alexander or Johnson go down Foster is useless.
Your call but sounds like a trade that doesnt need to happen.
Good Luck
11/10/2005 12:48:08 PM EDT
[#8]
What is your scoring system?

Most leagues value passing TDs less than rushing TDs.  You've got a boatload of stud RBs right now.  If that is the case, then the 1-2 TDs that will come from a Bledsoe or Johnson (btw I like Johnson best out of your QBs) will not be enough to offset the reliable 1-2 rushing TDs from an Alexander or LJ.  Verdict:  stay put.

Now, if you are in a league like mine, rushing and passing TDs count are the same (6 points).  Now it makes a difference, because a stud QB like Carson Palmer (or Peyton Manning) can get you 2-3 TDs more reliably than the 1-2 TDs that you will get from your (current) stud RBs.  In this instance, you are better off upgrading at QB because you'll net more points.  Verdict:  trade Davis if you can get a stud QB in return.

I am an Eagles fan and I say do not trade for McNabb.    It hurts me to say that, because without TO and without an effective running game, McNabb is not a consistent performer like Palmer or Peyton Manning.  
11/10/2005 12:55:46 PM EDT
[#9]
You'd be nuts to make a trade with the players you have.

Nuts. Play Bledsoe and your bevy of backs.

I have P. Manning and he's cost me dearly this year (he was my first pick and #2 overall). McNabb is going to tank.
11/10/2005 12:58:36 PM EDT
[#10]
If you must make a deal for a QB, of your 3 RB's, Davis has the least potential for scoring.   No question Manning is a better QB than McNabb and should score a lot more points during the rest of the season.   So if you can give Davis for Manning, do it and don't look back.  
11/10/2005 1:11:19 PM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:
If you must make a deal for a QB, of your 3 RB's, Davis has the least potential for scoring.   No question Manning is a better QB than McNabb and should score a lot more points during the rest of the season.   So if you can give Davis for Manning, do it and don't look back.  


yeah I agree unfortunately the guy who owns Manning will only part with him for either Alexander (who I won't part with) or LJ. I would only do it on the potential Manning has, our scoring system is td's for qb and rb are the same, we get 5 points for TD and then points for yardage so potentially Manning could really offset the loss of a stud back.
11/10/2005 2:15:41 PM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
You don't think Manning will be an upgrade, I picked up Deshawn Foster as a backup for Davis and if Manning gets his numbers up he is a monster. I am torn damnit



I said McNabb isn't an upgrade.  If it was me, I'd stick with what you have.
11/10/2005 2:41:28 PM EDT
[#13]
we need to know more--your scoring system, as mentioned, your starters, and the rest of your lineup.  if you are starting 2RB/1flex, you simply must keep all 3 backs.

mcnabb is a no-go.  he lost his home-run hitter in owens.  look at the TD pass stats for the last 2 years--owens-20, rest of WRs-4 (or thereabouts).  favre is a better option for the rest of the season, even with the INTs, 5 of which came in one game.

manning is suffering because of systemic issues--the colts simply don't have to score as much this year, and james is surging, creating a better-balanced attack.  because of this, he won't make up the production differential of a favre-LJ package.

sounds like you're getting name envy.  you're in great position right now--quit overthinking, and don't frontload on your starting lineup.  depth counts, especially in december.
11/10/2005 2:47:01 PM EDT
[#14]
I have Shawn Alexander and Drew Bledsoe both, I am doing very well in my league.
11/10/2005 2:48:02 PM EDT
[#15]
I've been waiting for a chance to ask this . . .

WTF is "fantasy football"?  I am not a sports fan so I'm not "with" this stuff, and the term just confuses me.
11/10/2005 4:00:09 PM EDT
[#16]
Also, tell us if this is a keeper league.

Bledsoe and Favre are fine.  Your roster seems pretty stout.
11/10/2005 4:04:23 PM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:
I've been waiting for a chance to ask this . . .

WTF is "fantasy football"?  I am not a sports fan so I'm not "with" this stuff, and the term just confuses me.



You and 9-11 buddies get together one Saturday afternoon in August (and often go well into the evening) and start picking players off of existing NFL teams.  You pick the players that you feel will have, statistically, strong seasons.  By the end of the evening, you have collected a few quarterbacks, some running backs, some receivers, etc. and that's your "fantasy team."  They usually get named stupid and/or obscene things because that's what guys do.

As the real NFL season progresses, your Fantasy Teams are matched up against each other.  How your players do that particular weekend is analyzed statistically by a computer, points are awarded to your players, and your roster either wins you bragging rights for a week, or causes you to cuss.  Repeat every weekend for 4 months.  There are various ways to determine the champion of your fantasy league.

One thing it does for sure is it completely skews your perspective as you watch games.

You'll watch the Broncos play the Colts and be screaming stupid things like "I need Manning to fumble twice and Plummer to throw 2 touchdowns but neither to Rod Smith."  It can get ridiculous, but it's fun.
11/10/2005 4:13:03 PM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:
One thing it does for sure is it completely skews your perspective as you watch games.

You'll watch the Broncos play the Colts and be screaming stupid things like "I need Manning to fumble twice and Plummer to throw 2 touchdowns but neither to Rod Smith."  It can get ridiculous, but it's fun.





that's hilarious, and entirely true.  my roommate won a game 2 years ago because mccardell recovered a fumble for a score, instead of catching a TD pass.

good times.
11/10/2005 4:35:11 PM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:
my roommate won a game 2 years ago because mccardell recovered a fumble for a score, instead of catching a TD pass.

good times.



It seems crazy stuff like that happens WAY more often than seems reasonable.  I haven't won a game from anything off-the-wall like that, but have ended up in a tie because my kicker got denied an extra point when the offense went for the 2 pt conversion.  

Stupid kickers.
11/11/2005 5:26:40 AM EDT
[#20]
The only strange way I won a game was when my opponent in last year's "super bowl" pulled Freddie Mitchell (WR) off his starting roster at the last moment ... if he had let FredEX stay, he would have won the league championship.


Quoted:
By the end of the evening, you have collected a few quarterbacks, some running backs, some receivers, etc. and that's your "fantasy team."  They usually get named stupid and/or obscene things because that's what guys do.



My fantasy football team name (pay league):  Huangover

and my fantasy NBA team: Well Huang