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Posted: 5/22/2019 11:00:45 AM EDT

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In fairness the homeowner was deaf as that would explain why he couldn't tell the difference between paintball markers and a firearm. A person with normal hearing would have been able to hear the difference in the report from the paintball marker and a firearm and not shot at the kids playing with their toys.

Imagine the guilt that guy is going to feel the rest of his life.

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Doh. I stand corrected. Guilty of not reading. Didn't know he was deaf.

Posted: 5/22/2019 11:04:12 AM EDT

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How long did the guy get in jail? You can't go killing people because a couple of Dycks tossed a potato at your truck.

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Amish kids around here used to throw fruit, veggies, etc.. at cars around Halloween.

Until some guy got out and emptied both barrels of a 12 gauge into them. I think killed at least one.

They don't throw shit at cars anymore. Sucks a guy had to take one for the team, but the result benefited everyone.

How long did the guy get in jail? You can't go killing people because a couple of Dycks tossed a potato at your truck.

Not under current law. When I come to power, the "he needed killin' " defense will be more open to interpretation.

Posted: 5/22/2019 11:16:41 AM EDT

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Making a lesson of someone for their sketchy behavior has kept society running smoothly for thousands of years. Many of our problems today results from darwin from being denied his due for people doing stupid shit, baby proofing the world helps noone long term, it just allows tards to spread and flourish, and infect society at all levels. Massive gov allows baby proofing to spread, allows lawsuits by idiots, and also restricts retribution / punishment on the individual level. Some slut shaming, shaming people for doing stupid shit / their immoral behavior or a good legality free ass whipping occasionally would also fix a lot of problems today, and lack of it is another cause of society woe.

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imo, bears repeating.

Posted: 5/22/2019 11:21:27 AM EDT

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In fairness the homeowner was deaf as that would explain why he couldn't tell the difference between paintball markers and a firearm. A person with normal hearing would have been able to hear the difference in the report from the paintball marker and a firearm and not shot at the kids playing with their toys.

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Ah, that sucks then.

Posted: 5/22/2019 11:29:05 AM EDT

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My Daughters Senior class is playing some sort of "Assassin" game using squirt guns. I have forbid her to participate and invite that shit around the home/family.

Stalking people and pointing gun shaped objects at them is a recipe for tragedy.

Good shoot or bad shoot, that homeowner is in for legal battles and legal expenses that will change the rest of his life (and not for the better).

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Didn't some guy get shot or something a few years back playing that game/kidnapping prank?

Posted: 5/22/2019 11:34:12 AM EDT

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Thats tragic actually. Some kid pranking his buddy, or wanting to paint him gets killed.
Unfortunately I can understand the point of view of the father, even if it does seem a little outlandish.

Posted: 5/22/2019 11:50:26 AM EDT

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Mischief at night, in Tejas?

No bill.

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Posted: 5/22/2019 11:53:02 AM EDT

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I'll have a coke.

Posted: 5/22/2019 11:53:04 AM EDT

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One of the few rules of firearms is know what you're shooting at. So either this guy shot at paintballers as revenge, or didn't know what he was shooting at. I used to play a lot of paintball, was in the NEPL for a couple of years. A paintball gun does not sound like a real gun. I bet this guy knew what he was shooting at. Bad shoot either way.

edit nm, didn't know he was deaf.

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I bet 20% of the people who own a gun for "personal defense" have never heard a gunshot in real life. I also bet a much larger number have never hear a gunshot more than a few dozen times and never without hearing protection. I'll then bet that an even greater number, likely the overwhelming percentage of the population have never heard paintball fire.

It's no leap of faith for people to mistake gunfire for paintball fire

Posted: 5/22/2019 12:07:01 PM EDT

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In fairness the homeowner was deaf as that would explain why he couldn't tell the difference between paintball markers and a firearm. A person with normal hearing would have been able to hear the difference in the report from the paintball marker and a firearm and not shot at the kids playing with their toys.

Imagine the guilt that guy is going to feel the rest of his life.

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I wouldn't feel an ounce of guilt. 19, they're not kids they're adults. Should know better than to do dumb fuck shit like this. Show up at my house in the middle of the night and point something at me that resembles a firearm you're getting smoked.

The man did society a HUGE favor.

Posted: 5/22/2019 12:08:17 PM EDT

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I wouldn't feel an ounce of guilt. 19, they're not kids they're adults. Should know better than to do dumb fuck shit like this. Show up at my house in the middle of the night and point something at me that resembles a firearm you're getting smoked.

The man did society a HUGE favor.

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Take your meds

Posted: 5/22/2019 12:13:57 PM EDT

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Take your meds

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I wouldn't feel an ounce of guilt. 19, they're not kids they're adults. Should know better than to do dumb fuck shit like this. Show up at my house in the middle of the night and point something at me that resembles a firearm you're getting smoked.

The man did society a HUGE favor.

Take your meds

LMAO!

Posted: 5/22/2019 12:14:23 PM EDT

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I wouldn't feel an ounce of guilt. 19, they're not kids they're adults. Should know better than to do dumb fuck shit like this. Show up at my house in the middle of the night and point something at me that resembles a firearm you're getting smoked.

The man did society a HUGE favor.

Take your meds

Lol.

Sorry your juvenile delinquent lost.

Posted: 5/22/2019 12:14:54 PM EDT

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Darwinism at his finest

Posted: 5/22/2019 12:19:38 PM EDT

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Being presented with a person coming towards yourself/house, holding a gun shaped object, in the dark, at night?

Sucks for the dummy who got shot, but good shoot in Texas.

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Should be a good shoot everywhere.

Posted: 5/22/2019 12:19:55 PM EDT

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Damn shame a young man had to lose his life over stupidity. Amazing how some people have no common sense. Even when I was a 15 year old kid (a million years ago) and me and my buddies did stupid shit like throwing M-80s on peoples yards (and it wasn't July 4th), I knew I could get a good potential ass kicking or worse if I got caught. Common sense can help you to identify dangerous scenarios so you can live longer. Too bad some folks just aren't born with it.

Posted: 5/22/2019 12:26:56 PM EDT

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I wonder if they broke any windows?

Posted: 5/22/2019 1:27:38 PM EDT

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Amish kids around here used to throw fruit, veggies, etc.. at cars around Halloween.

Until some guy got out and emptied both barrels of a 12 gauge into them. I think killed at least one.

They don't throw shit at cars anymore. Sucks a guy had to take one for the team, but the result benefited everyone.

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Waitaminute,

. You’re posting from PA.

You talkin REAL Amish, or Canadian Amish?

Please specify, so we can get the story straight.

Posted: 5/22/2019 1:46:50 PM EDT

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How does something like this play out in texas

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So far not going well in Abilene...

Posted: 5/22/2019 1:50:00 PM EDT

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I don't buy the idea that the home owner should have known it was a paintball gun, even if he wasn't deaf. Stress of the moment, initial reaction of being shot at, etc, it being night, potentially windows breaking, etc. Hell maybe the homeowner was even hit. Paintballs hurt, having never been shot with a real firearm, I'd consider paintball painful enough to confuse for real injury in the heat of the moment.

Paintball gun reports when firing would generally never be mistaken for a gunshot in a low stress environment, but when multiple sensory inputs are telling you "you're being shot at", maybe even already shot, in the heat of the moment??

It's an unfortunate outcome, but the fault lies solely with the holigan, not the homeowner IMO. I can see how I might do the same thing...

Posted: 5/22/2019 2:08:09 PM EDT

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My Daughters Senior class is playing some sort of "Assassin" game using squirt guns. I have forbid her to participate and invite that shit around the home/family.

Stalking people and pointing gun shaped objects at them is a recipe for tragedy.

Good shoot or bad shoot, that homeowner is in for legal battles and legal expenses that will change the rest of his life (and not for the better).

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Um, no he isn't. Based on the presented evidence, he will be no billed. Since he won't be convicted of a crime, under Texas law, he came be held civilally liable thus can't be sued.

Posted: 5/22/2019 2:12:07 PM EDT

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Don't bring paintballs to a gun fight?

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/DONE, end of thread.

Posted: 5/22/2019 2:22:00 PM EDT

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Paintball vs suppressed subs-a difference, but not huge. Painballs hitting windows-I don’t know. Don’t think they would take out glass at range, but perhaps at point blank. Paintballs to set off alarms... at some point they are too stupid and should be removed from the Jean pool

Posted: 5/22/2019 2:26:28 PM EDT

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The homeowner wasn't deaf - that was what I thought over the top sarcasm.

SORRY.

Posted: 5/22/2019 2:28:10 PM EDT

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Quoted:It's an unfortunate outcome, but the fault lies solely with the holigan, not the homeowner IMO. I can see how I might do the same thing...

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Oh I could twist a dozen new factors into the story I'm just against killing Texas boys for doing something they didn't need killin' over.

Posted: 5/22/2019 2:31:52 PM EDT

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Don't bring paintballs to a gun fight?

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Affirmative.

Posted: 5/22/2019 2:36:32 PM EDT

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So far not going well in Abilene...
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/09/21/00/507A41F200000578-0-image-a-8_1537485589878.jpg

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How does something like this play out in texas

So far not going well in Abilene...
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/09/21/00/507A41F200000578-0-image-a-8_1537485589878.jpg

One has not to do with the other.

Posted: 5/22/2019 2:50:11 PM EDT

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I wouldn't feel an ounce of guilt. 19, they're not kids they're adults. Should know better than to do dumb fuck shit like this. Show up at my house in the middle of the night and point something at me that resembles a firearm you're getting smoked.

The man did society a HUGE favor.

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I am glad you posted this. I thought I was the only one that feels this way.

Posted: 5/22/2019 4:36:31 PM EDT

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I'm surprised you didn't respond with "Honey, if you're thinking about doing something that is likely to result in Daddy shooting someone, you probably know better than to do it in the first place. "

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19 years old pointing and shooting a paintball gun at house from car at 23:00

talk about fucking stupid

my daughter's senior class did the assassin game. Water pistols only and not at night were the rules

Daughter briefed me in case somebody jumped her on our property so that I would not shoot anybody.

I'm surprised you didn't respond with "Honey, if you're thinking about doing something that is likely to result in Daddy shooting someone, you probably know better than to do it in the first place. "

it is a harmless water squirt gun game, especially during daylight.

Posted: 5/22/2019 5:49:15 PM EDT

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A lot of horseshit that is accepted elsewhere doesn't go over very big in TX.

Best to mind your own business and stay out of peoples faces, as well as off their property.

Posted: 5/22/2019 6:24:39 PM EDT

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Posted: 5/22/2019 6:30:32 PM EDT

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought one of the cardinal rules in situations like this is DON'T GO OUT OF YOUR HOUSE! You have no idea what sort of situation you are walking into.

Posted: 5/22/2019 7:28:45 PM EDT

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I only "played" paintballs once. At that venue, the operators checked everyone for frozen paintballs. The operator said they were very dangerous! I don't know if they were just trying to sell their paintballs, of if dicks really freeze them to fuck with people.

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People really did do that shit just to hurt people. Most of the time, the rules require a break for the hit to count if the player does not call himself out. Some people that play are just looking for that, it seems. Back when my did still played, his team was playing a team of cops, and one of them waited for him to crawl out of a bush and shot him from inches away in the mouth on purpose. Almost turned into a brawl. That was back when only goggles were required, and full face masks were pretty rare.

Most paint formulas today don't permit freezing at typical freezer temperatures. Some of that cheap, toxic crap from China may be one of the exceptions.

Even a non-frozen paintball can cause significant injury, such as to eyes, teeth, or skin, and under just the right circumstances could potentially kill someone. A number of paintball guns resemble real firearms, and some of the mag-fed newer models look very close to the real thing.

That said, there are venues which try to force you to buy their paint some or all of the time.

Posted: 5/22/2019 7:32:30 PM EDT

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Paintball vs suppressed subs-a difference, but not huge. Painballs hitting windows-I don’t know. Don’t think they would take out glass at range, but perhaps at point blank. Paintballs to set off alarms... at some point they are too stupid and should be removed from the Jean pool

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They can potentially break glass. I've seen it happen at the paintball park I used to work at when they put new cars with still-intact windows out as obstacles on the fields.

Posted: 5/22/2019 7:33:37 PM EDT

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought one of the cardinal rules in situations like this is DON'T GO OUT OF YOUR HOUSE! You have no idea what sort of situation you are walking into.

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May or may not be sound advice from a practical perspective, but it should never be a legal requirement or be seen as a hard rule or expectation with a moral imperative behind it.

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