[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Fight Club (Page 1 of 4)
Posted: 3/9/2005 6:35:16 PM EDT
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This is one of the most fucked up movies I have ever seen in my life. If I could teleport myself into this movie I'd put a bullet into Brad Pitt's charachter. |
Maybe the fact that is a piece of collectivistic bull shit. One of the main themes is that the individual should sacrifice himself for the good of the many i.e. "space monkeys" as Mr. Pahlahniuk(sp?) calls them. Everyone in the movie lives together in a commune and I believe that Mr. Durden has a monologue about a perfect socialistic society. |
| It's a great movie, but a better book. Calling it metrosexual and homoerotic? You really missed the point. It has nothing to do with either of those issues. Post-modernisitc crap? Also missed the point. You do have to watch it several times before you notice everything. |
What is its redeaming factor? |
Please, enlighten us... The only bullshit undercurrent I saw was Tyler;s whole "crush capitalism and return to a neolithic state of being" thing... What else is there? |
The above is what I was talking about. Also the whole movie reaks of a subjective reality/morality. |
I don't know, I sort of viewed that as a sort of hyperbolic description of a masculine ideal, the same way that I viewed the idea of guys getting together to beat the fuck out of each other.... Think about it... Complete independence... Utter self-sufficiency... Aren't these key aspects of many (right-wing) men's "ideal societies" |
It wasn't complete independence. They weren't self-sufficient. They were part of a commune. They were no good terrorist thugs. I don't care if you hate the modern world, that doesn't give you the right to go blow up buildings and threaten to cut people's balls off. If this is a "right-wing" ideal I am glad I am a radical capitalist and not a right-winger. |
The terrorism was a means to an end. The end, the ideal, was the "postmodern independent caveman phase" "Postmodern caveman" pretty well describes the environment in survivalist online lit, except with much cooler toys... 
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I am sorry. I guess I like living in a modern world with modern conveniences. That damn modern medicine sure gets annoying doesn't it. The book was idiotic. The movie was idiotic. I remember reading it in high school and I thought it was a great piece of modern liturature. Then I realized what it advocated. |
Did you not see that Chuck was trying to show us how much that type of life sucks? He illustrates the two extremes: one of pure captitalism where the little ones get crushed and one of anarchy where only the strong survive. He was saying the anarchist communist ideas were bad, not good. How did you miss this? |
Notice the narrator rejects this thesis, as well. And it's not homoerotic, it's self-erotic. |
What was he advocating then? Was he saying that all ideals were bad? In that case he was a nihlist, which is bullshit in itself. |
What is the narrator for then? The narrator gives no alternative. Nothing to fight for. Only things to fight against. |
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"You are not special. You are not a beautiful or unique snowflake. You're the same decaying organic matter as everything else. We are all part of the same compost heap." I can understand your contempt for this movie... and for that you will be added to the list of targets for Project Mayhem. |
I reject that premise. If you compromise between good (capitalism) and evil (communism) the evil always wins out. |
Gosh, I just thought Brad Pitt's charachter was a dick. ETA - Oh yeah and I was more than a little disgusted by the filth in that dump that they were living in. |
Well they completely changed the ending from the book, don't ask me why. And in that case, you got your wish. And even in the movie, good wins out because narrator does what he does. |
If I remember the movie correctly the credits start to roll as skyscrapers start to collapse. |
But Tyler dies! I was trying to say that in a non-spoiler fashion. |