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8/23/2009 12:34:12 PM EDT
Girlfriend wanted a deck, Her father said he would guide me through it and help out.
Hands blistered, Still cooling down, the high today was 106. Yesterday was about the same

Started yesterday at 8am, worked untill 7pm, then from 9am-1pm today.
Lost of breaks, and lots of water. Deck is 12' by 12', made out of ceder and treated pine.








I need to replace the Cinder blocks with something, but the damn thing is level as it is, I just dont like the look.
8/23/2009 12:35:58 PM EDT
[#1]
Put some bushes around the deck to hide the cider blocks.
8/23/2009 12:38:58 PM EDT
[#2]
Thought about that, Girlfiend is already nagging for some planter boxes around it.   Not sure that this is going to be the final place for it, I hope it is, but still not sure.  Its a heavy sonofabitch.
8/23/2009 12:44:36 PM EDT
[#3]
replacing the cinder blocks would be a pain. make a wood frame around them or as said above, plant bushes. camo is your friend when it comes to things like that.

looks good, now grab a beer and enjoy it
8/23/2009 12:59:36 PM EDT
[#4]
At the very least , turn the block so the holes are up and down. They are not made to support a load laying on their side like that. You may have an issue with them crumbling apart in the future!
8/23/2009 1:09:11 PM EDT
[#5]
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At the very least , turn the block so the holes are up and down. They are not made to support a load laying on their side like that. You may have an issue with them crumbling apart in the future!



Ants will build mounde in them vertical.   The blocks are spaced out every 3 feet, even in the center so each one is not supporting too much weight.
8/23/2009 1:09:20 PM EDT
[#6]
FAIL on many levels.
8/23/2009 1:09:20 PM EDT
[#7]
So you made a deck in the middle of the yard?
8/23/2009 1:10:13 PM EDT
[#8]
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So you made a deck in the middle of the yard?


Thats where she wanted it.

8/23/2009 1:11:23 PM EDT
[#9]
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FAIL on many levels.



It gets me Pie, and cooking, If thats fail, fuck it, Ill flunk everything.
8/23/2009 1:22:51 PM EDT
[#10]
turn the blocks in the correct direction    ,{code} surround with pres treated lumber ,and trees .some more balastrait {code].and add walk way to house door 4 feet wide width {code] wait for falls collness nice ,enjoy pie
8/23/2009 1:28:42 PM EDT
[#11]
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turn the blocks in the correct direction    ,{code} surround with pres treated lumber ,and trees .some more balastrait {code].and add walk way to house door 4 feet wide width {code] wait for falls collness nice ,enjoy pie


If I flip them verticly, I need to fill them with concrete.   Ants love to build in these damn things when they are stacked holes up.   I will end up building planter boxes arouned it out of treated lumber, and eventualy put a top on it.   Half the lumber was stuff I had laying around from a deck my dad had built.   Next week I plan to sand and stain the deck, work on getting the outside block replaced with 4x4s or the concrete cone shaped things that are made for this sort of things. ( inside blocks are solid)
8/23/2009 1:30:35 PM EDT
[#12]
pics of the GF, or I call BS and it really is your BF and your the girl.
8/23/2009 1:33:17 PM EDT
[#13]
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pics of the GF, or I call BS and it really is your BF and your the girl.


8/23/2009 1:39:07 PM EDT
[#14]
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FAIL on many levels.



It gets me Pie, and cooking, If thats fail, fuck it, Ill flunk everything.


The end justifies the means. THE THINGS WE WILL DO.

8/23/2009 1:53:18 PM EDT
[#15]
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FAIL on many levels.



It gets me Pie, and cooking, If thats fail, fuck it, Ill flunk everything.


The end justifies the means. THE THINGS WE WILL DO.



Its not perfect, but I am not a carpenter.  I am a machinist by trade.

Worm Gear



Wrist pin



Herringbone gear



8/23/2009 4:06:20 PM EDT
[#16]
Ok, if you turn the block on their side how are ants going to get in there and make nests?  You have them sitting on a solid cap block already dont you?

And you know that the spindles holding the railing up is no where near up to code, I do believe that there is a 4 inch gap max.  

And decks are usually attached to the house in some way.  You made a raised platform.  

Oh and one more thing .... what the fuck is this shit about moving it?
8/23/2009 4:17:12 PM EDT
[#17]



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Ok, if you turn the block on their side how are ants going to get in there and make nests?  You have them sitting on a solid cap block already dont you?



And you know that the spindles holding the railing up is no where near up to code, I do believe that there is a 4 inch gap max.  







The 4" space for railings only apply when the deck is 30" or higher off the ground.



 
8/23/2009 4:26:09 PM EDT
[#18]
It gets me Pie, If thats fail, fuck it, Ill flunk everything.[/quote]

Make some more of these and use them for the new supports....
Wrist pin




8/23/2009 4:35:43 PM EDT
[#19]
If I was charging for it, I would worry about the code.

And the way I see it, if its attatched to the house, its a porch.
8/23/2009 5:03:56 PM EDT
[#20]
Get some of that wood or plastic trestle stuff and nail it on the perimeter of the deck.
8/23/2009 5:09:31 PM EDT
[#21]
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Get some of that wood or plastic trestle stuff and nail it on the perimeter of the deck.



Kinda what I was thinking.

I will be messing with it over the next few weeks, If I am not at work, I am usualy working part time at the local range, so free time is limited.
Had the weekend free, a pile of lumber, screw gun, and a box of nails so I thought I would try out carpentry.
8/23/2009 5:22:38 PM EDT
[#22]


The block on it's side could be dangerous if you get several people up there. An easy fix would be get some Portland cement and mix three to one and dry pack the holes. One cement and three sand. mix dry where you can squeeze it in your hand and make a ball. Too wet and it will sag and not work. You can hold a board or something at the back of the hole and pack from the front until the holes are filled solid. After it cures out you should be fine.

8/23/2009 5:37:01 PM EDT
[#23]
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If I was charging for it, I would worry about the code.

And the way I see it, if its attatched to the house, its a porch.


If code enforcement comes around they will be worried about code wether you charged for it or not.

Uhhhh porches are covered and decks are not ... a deck is a porch without a roof.
8/23/2009 5:42:37 PM EDT
[#24]
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If I was charging for it, I would worry about the code.

And the way I see it, if its attatched to the house, its a porch.


If code enforcement comes around they will be worried about code wether you charged for it or not.

Uhhhh porches are covered and decks are not ... a deck is a porch without a roof.


This is a small town. Code enforcment is very rare.

The blocks sideways idea came from a local contractor, this place is damn near mexico.
8/23/2009 5:47:09 PM EDT
[#25]




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If I was charging for it, I would worry about the code.



And the way I see it, if its attatched to the house, its a porch.




If code enforcement comes around they will be worried about code wether you charged for it or not.



Uhhhh porches are covered and decks are not ... a deck is a porch without a roof.




Show us the deck you made.
And stop giving this guy crap.
8/24/2009 2:58:51 AM EDT
[#26]
I use these.  They're called Dek-Blocks and are available at Home Depot.


8/24/2009 3:03:54 AM EDT
[#27]
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At the very least , turn the block so the holes are up and down. They are not made to support a load laying on their side like that. You may have an issue with them crumbling apart in the future!


This was my first thought!
8/24/2009 3:11:28 AM EDT
[#28]
A raised wooden platform in the middle of a dirt yard! Can I come hang out?
8/24/2009 3:35:39 AM EDT
[#29]
I have a neighbor who also built his "deck" in the middle of his backyard.  I don't understand it, but to each his own.  Hell, put it in the front yard if you really want to shake things up.
8/24/2009 3:37:35 AM EDT
[#30]
I have picks that the .gov gave me of the future.



8/24/2009 4:14:01 AM EDT
[#31]
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I use these.  They're called Dek-Blocks and are available at Home Depot.

http://www.cci-industries.com/images/product/blocks/sml/dek_block.png


This is what her dad used, but we could not find any.   His idea to turn the cinder blocks sideways.    I'll probably run to corpus his week and get some
8/24/2009 4:19:37 AM EDT
[#32]
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A raised wooden platform in the middle of a dirt yard! Can I come hang out?




We are I. A drought , with voluntary water rationing.    City can not pump water if the local resivour falls two more feet, wivh will be in about a month.    There is a tree between the deck, and the house     she wanted it here because it is shaded except for 2-3 hours a day.
8/24/2009 4:19:52 AM EDT
[#33]
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FAIL on many levels.


+1
8/24/2009 4:27:25 AM EDT
[#34]
Good on you for the deck.  Deck is less then 30" above ground level.  Does not even need railing.  But I can bet you, you wouldn't see me lean on that rail.
8/24/2009 4:31:37 AM EDT
[#35]
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If I was charging for it, I would worry about the code.

And the way I see it, if its attatched to the house, its a porch.


If code enforcement comes around they will be worried about code wether you charged for it or not.

Uhhhh porches are covered and decks are not ... a deck is a porch without a roof.


Show us the deck you made. And stop giving this guy crap.


If I was worried about haters, this is the last place I would have put pictures.   This was a learning experiance, and it's not done.  Those that can, do.  Those that can't, teach.
8/24/2009 4:33:56 AM EDT
[#36]
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Good on you for the deck.  Deck is less then 30" above ground level.  Does not even need railing.  But I can bet you, you wouldn't see me lean on that rail.


It's just there to keep people from walking off backwards.   At first I was going to leave it off.
8/24/2009 5:00:41 AM EDT
[#37]
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Good on you for the deck.  Deck is less then 30" above ground level.  Does not even need railing.  But I can bet you, you wouldn't see me lean on that rail.


It's just there to keep people from walking off backwards.   At first I was going to leave it off.


Someone is going to lean on it, guaranteed. Will it hold them?
8/24/2009 5:07:29 AM EDT
[#38]
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Good on you for the deck.  Deck is less then 30" above ground level.  Does not even need railing.  But I can bet you, you wouldn't see me lean on that rail.


It's just there to keep people from walking off backwards.   At first I was going to leave it off.


Someone is going to lean on it, guaranteed. Will it hold them?


It will hold my 260 lbs.   I don't know about sitting on it and swinging my legs but I spent a few hours leaning on it yesterday.  Main supports are notched 2x4s screwed in.   Filler is 2x2 cedar nailed in to top and bottom rail.
8/24/2009 5:42:28 AM EDT
[#39]
nice job.
gears huh? lathe work always bored me, im a machining center kind of guy.
40 revolutions on a mic. .025 per rev, up to 1 inch = 40.
dont think ive ever been asked that one.
8/24/2009 5:47:41 AM EDT
[#40]
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nice job.
gears huh? lathe work always bored me, im a machining center kind of guy.
40 revolutions on a mic. .025 per rev, up to 1 inch = 40.
dont think ive ever been asked that one.




Turning a $300 chunk of 4140 right now on a 1951 monarch for a bethlehm d75 gearbox.
8/24/2009 5:52:28 AM EDT
[#41]
I would ditch that railing, makes it look like an animal pen. Subtract rails add landscaping and it would look nice IMHO.