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2/15/2007 6:45:40 PM EDT
Okay, more like a general bitching.

Wifey got me a Brookstone LED flashlight, 1.5 watts, nice tight focused spot.  The switch lasted 10 cycles and stuck off.  She'll take it back.

I go to China Mart, pick up a MiniMag LED, 3 watts, three AA batteries.  Get it home and notice the package was opened and taped up (F&%k you Walmart), and the light is weak and diffuse, the operation is spotty (blinks on and off when you turn the lens cap to operate it).  It goes back tommorow.

WTF?  Does no one make a decent LED flashlight for under $30?  I don't need a weapon light, just something light and bright to keep from getting run over when we walk the dog at night (the sidewalks are a frozen mess, we have to walk on the roads in our subdivision).

HG.
2/15/2007 6:47:43 PM EDT
[#1]
Go back to Wal Mart.  Pay $18 for a Dorcy LED light.  Go home.  Be extremely impressed. Go back to Wal Mart and buy 3 more.
2/15/2007 6:50:56 PM EDT
[#2]

Quoted:
Go back to Wal Mart.  Pay $18 for a Dorcy LED light.  Go home.  Be extremely impressed. Go back to Wal Mart and buy 3 more.


Thanks.  I saw those, but went with MiniMag for their (undeserved) reputation.  I will try one.

I really like the 14 LED lights that AIM was selling for a while for $10 a pop, but he kids have managed to lose all three of them (thats a rant for another day).  
2/15/2007 7:14:58 PM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:
I go to China Mart, pick up a MiniMag LED, 3 watts, three AA batteries.  Get it home and notice the package was opened and taped up (F&%k you Walmart), and the light is weak and diffuse, the operation is spotty (blinks on and off when you turn the lens cap to operate it).


What?

How can that be?

MAG-lights are Ameri-cun made!
2/15/2007 11:41:48 PM EDT
[#4]
Get an Arc flashlight.

www.arcflashlight.com/
2/15/2007 11:43:49 PM EDT
[#5]
I'm hard pressed to find a bad flashlight nowadays. You got shitty luck.
2/16/2007 12:22:08 AM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
I'm hard pressed to find a bad flashlight nowadays. You got shitty luck.


+1

I bought a 3w LED from Advance AutoParts for $19.99 that's just outstanding, bright as heck. I liked it so much I went back and bought 5 more. All of them work great.
2/16/2007 12:43:40 AM EDT
[#7]
Go back and get the 2-AA 3 Watt Mini-Mag. This time make sure you got one that hasn't been messed with. You will like the light. I don't notice much difference between that one and the 3-AA Mini-Mag,though. I just wish it had a click-on tailcap,though.
2/16/2007 12:55:23 AM EDT
[#8]
Go here for some good  flashlight info.
2/16/2007 1:14:07 AM EDT
[#9]
dorcy

I have this one and although it's been great for some reason it's beginning to cut out on me and you have to smack it around a bit for it to come on and it may cut out 1m/s later. not very good for a " you need light NOW" situation it doesn't do this when fresh batteries are installed but if they drain from 1.5v to 1.3v it starts acting up

I thought maybe the connectors were bad but this is not the case, my other thought was perhaps it's a built in low battery indicator  but it sucks to need light and have to pimp-smack your flashlight

any thoughts on what could be wrong? or just ditch it for something else not from wal-mart?
2/16/2007 1:18:31 AM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
Go back to Wal Mart.  Pay $18 for a Dorcy LED light.  Go home.  Be extremely impressed. Go back to Wal Mart and buy 3 more.



whoa,, this dude did the exact same thing I did
2/16/2007 1:51:32 AM EDT
[#11]
I got a 3w Brinkmann from Target last year.  < $30.00.  Bright as hell, good beam, rugged and works perfectly.
2/16/2007 1:56:49 AM EDT
[#12]
The Garity is only $12 and is way tougher .
2/16/2007 1:58:28 AM EDT
[#13]
Here's the $19.99 LED I got, 3w Luxeon....aluminum with tail cap switch....takes 2-C batteries, super bright, nice white light and great throw. As nice as my 3W Inova for less than half the cost.

www.partsamerica.com/ProductDetail.aspx?categorycode=3092&mfrcode=PFA&mfrpartnumber=APF708

2/16/2007 2:55:13 AM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:
Go back to Wal Mart.  Pay $18 for a Dorcy LED light.  Go home.  Be extremely impressed. Go back to Wal Mart and buy 3 more.


+1 on that!

The Dorcy LED @ WM is a Hell of a lot of flashlight for under $20 OTD (includes name brand batteries too). Aluminum anti-roll body, o-ring sealed tube, broadcasts a useable amount of light with no rings or dark spots, rear mounted on/off switch (not momentary though). I use one every single day and I am still on the original set of batteries after a year. We keep one in every car and a couple in the house.
2/16/2007 3:27:18 AM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:
Get an Arc flashlight.

www.arcflashlight.com/


Had one for probably 5 years now on my keychain....  I doubt I've gone through more than 3 batteries in that time because it just seems to run forever.  It has a few scratches on it, but even with rubbing up against the keys and other junk in my pockets, it seems to have held up well.

Guess it's about time to order a new premium model and let my wife have this one since she needs a keychain light, too.
2/16/2007 3:30:15 AM EDT
[#16]
Get a Surefire G3.
2/16/2007 3:38:05 AM EDT
[#17]
You want a Fenix L2D.
2/16/2007 4:27:08 AM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:
Go back to Wal Mart.  Pay $18 for a Dorcy LED light.  Go home.  Be extremely impressed. Go back to Wal Mart and buy 3 more.


Yup, I've bought 3 so far.  One for me, one for my wife's car, and one for my dad.  Great lights for the price.
2/16/2007 5:13:44 AM EDT
[#19]
Get yourself either a Streamlight 4AA Luxeon,
or one of the Fenix lights.

Simply the best bang for buck lights out there.

~John
2/16/2007 5:23:16 AM EDT
[#20]
Have a Sams club nearby? If so buy a pack of these, $28 for 2 and damn bright.
2/16/2007 5:30:51 AM EDT
[#21]
Go here and buy five or so of these things for $4.39 each.  Throw some of his keychain coin cell lights in too, they're about as cheap as they get.  Last time I looked, shipping was free.

Now.. What you'll get are lights without the fit or finish or overall quality engineering of a Mag or an Arc, but something that puts out a shitload of good light out of 1-AA, especially for under five bucks each.  They're quite the little sleeper.

Now.. The reason you buy five is because there is a lot of variation in output and beam tint, and because they get cheaper in quantity.  Give away the three worst ones and keep the two best.

I've got a fair collection of lights, but somehow this little cheap guy ends up in my pocket pretty often.  It doesn't throw real far, but it's a fine flood beam.

The little coin keychain lights are similar if not identical to lots of more expensive competitors.  They fail about as frequently and won't last forever, but I buy bags of 'em and give them out and squirrel them away.
2/16/2007 8:22:53 AM EDT
[#22]
A while ago, sears.com had some 1AA Coast Lenser LED lights (single LED) that are fantastic.


As a rule, I would avoid 3 battery LED lights as they tend not to be regulated and the light declines pretty rapidly with use.   Search out the 1 battery lights as they tend to be smaller, and have some sort of voltage regulation.  They tend to run at a more steady light output.

I've got a few different LED lights and I'd have to say that the AA maglight is the champion of underperformance.  I don't recommend it.

The ARC AAA is a must have in my opinion.  It is amazingly bright for its size and since it is small, you can keep it on your person at all times.

I've got a kind of square looking INOVA (2AA) light that I was going to recommend to you , but I can't find it on their website so it might be out of production.


The best place to for research into flashlights is candlepowerforums. Plus if there is an unusually good deal on flashlights somewhere, it will definitely show up as a thread there.
2/16/2007 8:27:40 AM EDT
[#23]
I buy the Dorcy and Brinkman lights at wally.

I literally have these things stashed all over the house for emergency use.

2/16/2007 8:29:42 AM EDT
[#24]

Quoted:
I've got a kind of square looking INOVA (2AA) light that I was going to recommend to you , but I can't find it on their website so it might be out of production.


I've got an INOVA X1 (1 AA) that I use.  Good light, solidly built.  Very tight beam.  I think it's out of the price range you're looking at, though (I think it's 50 bucks instead of the 30 you're looking for).  Batteries last forever in it.  Been using mine every day for more than a year and I'm just about through my second battery.
2/16/2007 8:33:30 AM EDT
[#25]
I bought the 3 cell MiniMag as well, yes it is a POS and mine has all the issues as yours even though mine was in a perfect unopened package, I think they are just crapola.



Quoted:
Okay, more like a general bitching.

Wifey got me a Brookstone LED flashlight, 1.5 watts, nice tight focused spot.  The switch lasted 10 cycles and stuck off.  She'll take it back.

I go to China Mart, pick up a MiniMag LED, 3 watts, three AA batteries.  Get it home and notice the package was opened and taped up (F&%k you Walmart), and the light is weak and diffuse, the operation is spotty (blinks on and off when you turn the lens cap to operate it).  It goes back tommorow.

WTF?  Does no one make a decent LED flashlight for under $30?  I don't need a weapon light, just something light and bright to keep from getting run over when we walk the dog at night (the sidewalks are a frozen mess, we have to walk on the roads in our subdivision).

HG.

2/16/2007 8:45:43 AM EDT
[#26]
Wow, thanks for all the info, everyone.

The originally mentioned light was great except for the switch.  I really need a light that absolutely with get noticed by a driver if I briefly flash toward his car, just to make sure he knows we are there.  Usually there is enough light from porches/windows/etc to walk without a flashlight, but the ice has forced us into the road.

I like the candlepower forum, but it looks like you could spend days in there sorting through all the information.  Imagine knowing nothing about ARs and trying to quickly absorb info to make your first purchase based on a quick perusal of arfcom.

My main problem is the kids use my flashlights and don't put them back, so when I need one its a snipe hunt to locate it.  Maybe I should keep them in the gun safe, at least I succeeded in getting the gun saftey lessons across without a "learning incident".



Edit:   page 2 pwnage.  this is probably my karmic payback for getting two stinker flashlights in a row.

2/16/2007 8:51:27 AM EDT
[#27]
Dorcy 1 W Luxeon has been fine for me.
2/16/2007 9:12:38 AM EDT
[#28]
I agree with you on the AA LED miniMaglight.  Just returned one back to WM.

The one watt luxeon's (Dorcy I think) sold at Sams are good, though I prefer the "Task Force"1W flashlights from Lowes with the tailcap switch. Found them on sale for $10.00  Here's bigswede's mini review from the sf forum

taskforce review


eta- +1 on the Streamlight.  have used one of those for years and it's reliable.  Good quality, and waterproof.

Buy a cheap flashlight, because the technology is about to get a lot better.  
2/16/2007 9:19:11 AM EDT
[#29]

Quoted:

WTF?  Does no one make a decent LED flashlight for under $30?


"You get what you pay for"?

Sounds like the Mini-Mag was a returned lemon.  Buy one that hasn't been dicked with, and it should do ya fine.

Reminds me I need batteries for mine...
2/16/2007 9:40:56 AM EDT
[#30]
Here you go...

www.flashlightreviews.com/index1.html

Edit: I would suggest you look into this light... www.flashlightreviews.com/reviews/aurora_alj-012aa.htm

It is available at Target for $20 under the "River Rock" name (it's the exact same light, just rebranded). It's very well made, surprisingly bright for its size, and has a very good run time on commonly available batteries (2AA).

Check it out. They make for great utility lights. I should know... I own two!

I also have one of these (also rebranded under the River Rock name): www.flashlightreviews.com/reviews/nuwai_tm-311h_2aaa.htm

Another great little light to have around & it's only $10 at Target!!!    

2/16/2007 12:39:49 PM EDT
[#31]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I've got a kind of square looking INOVA (2AA) light that I was going to recommend to you , but I can't find it on their website so it might be out of production.


I've got an INOVA X1 (1 AA) that I use.  Good light, solidly built.  Very tight beam.  I think it's out of the price range you're looking at, though (I think it's 50 bucks instead of the 30 you're looking for).  Batteries last forever in it.  Been using mine every day for more than a year and I'm just about through my second battery.



I found the one I was thinking of

www.lapolicegear.com/inraaaser2.html


It's not tacticool but it is a pretty good light with a nice beam and it uses cheap AA batteries.  The lapolicegear price is pretty good but you might be able to do better if you can find it at someplace like Target or Walmart.

ETA:  I think I paid $30 for mine a couple years ago.
2/16/2007 12:48:07 PM EDT
[#32]
Target usually has Inova X5 lights for around $30.
2/16/2007 1:11:15 PM EDT
[#33]

Quoted:
Get yourself either a Streamlight 4AA Luxeon,
or one of the Fenix lights.

Simply the best bang for buck lights out there.

~John


+1 on the Streamlight.  I have one for camping and it kicks ass.  It is plenty bright, takes commonly available batteries and is water resistant.  Also available in tacticool black or high-viz yellow plastic.  Further tacticool props for the momentary and constant on/off switch.

Plus, it is assembled in the US (Pennsylvania!).

Link here (only $28 from Brightguy!).