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10/24/2014 8:10:14 PM EDT
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I have a fluorescent light in the kitchen with two of the @1' diameter bulbs in it. It just stopped working. Not one bulb burning out, then another, but both at one time. Odd

So, I bought bulbs, but that is evidently not the problem.

House built in '09

It could only be the switch or the light fixture.  
The switch still looks and feels fine and is not loose.
There is no short/burn marks on the switch or fixture. The ballast still looks fine

Except the possibility that it just died, what is the problem?
10/24/2014 8:11:29 PM EDT
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Ballast looks fine, as in you really just looked at it, or ballast looks fine as in you tested it with a multimeter?
10/24/2014 8:12:59 PM EDT
[#2]
1 FOOT diameter bulbs? Holy shit!



Also, ballasts always look fine unless they catch on fire.
10/24/2014 8:20:29 PM EDT
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if you have power to the ballast and new lamps that means the ballast is bad. The ballasts they use these days are solid state which don't last as long as the old magnetic ballasts.

Get a tick tracer to check to see if you have voltage at the ballast, they are under $20 and they are no contact testers which means you turn them on and hold it next to the wire, if it starts beeping or lighting up depending on which model you get that means you have voltage on the wire, if you have voltage on your black wire and your lamps are not working you need a new ballast. it will probably be a two lamp T8 ballast, if it has two wires going to each tombstone (the part the lamp attaches to) then it is a rapid start ballast, if you only have one wire going to each tombstone then it is an instant start ballast.
10/24/2014 8:20:42 PM EDT
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It'll be usually be cheaper to replace the whole fixture than just the ballast.



Upgrade to a fixture that takes T-5 lamps.
10/24/2014 8:26:27 PM EDT
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if you have power to the ballast and new lamps that means the ballast is bad. The ballasts they use these days are solid state which don't last as long as the old magnetic ballasts.

Get a tick tracer to check to see if you have voltage at the ballast, they are under $20 and they are no contact testers which means you turn them on and hold it next to the wire, if it starts beeping or lighting up depending on which model you get that means you have voltage on the wire, if you have voltage on your black wire and your lamps are not working you need a new ballast. it will probably be a two lamp T8 ballast, if it has two wires going to each tombstone (the part the lamp attaches to) then it is a rapid start ballast, if you only have one wire going to each tombstone then it is an instant start ballast.
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Got fooled by doing exactly as you said one time.  Turned out that I had a loose neutral.  I never use those testers since that happened
10/24/2014 8:27:55 PM EDT
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It'll be usually be cheaper to replace the whole fixture than just the ballast.

Upgrade to a fixture that takes T-5 lamps.
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Screw T5. Triple the cost to save a few watts??? Does not last as long, puts out more heat also. Go with T8
10/24/2014 8:34:37 PM EDT
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Ok, you got me.

I cant remember the model # for the bulb. The bulb itself is about 1" in diameter and the bulb makes a circle about 1" in diameter.

The ballast looks good by eye, not tester. All the bad ballasts I have ever seen had electric burn on them. The tester is in my shop and I am too lazy to go out there.
10/24/2014 8:36:01 PM EDT
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Ok, you got me.

I cant remember the model # for the bulb. The bulb itself is about 1" in diameter and the bulb makes a circle about 1" in diameter.

The ballast looks good by eye, not tester. All the bad ballasts I have ever seen had electric burn on them. The tester is in my shop and I am too lazy to go out there.
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Lol

It's a bad ballast
10/24/2014 8:40:56 PM EDT
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We've been in this house for a little over a year and over the past couple of months our undercabinet flourescents started burning out.  I would replace them  and they'd burn out again within a week.  I bit the bullet and bought some dimmable LEDs for replacements and I'm much happier with them.  They're supposed to last 20 plus years.  We had three the builder installed, but I ended up adding a fourth.  Expensive, but cooler and much brighter.
10/24/2014 8:42:17 PM EDT
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1 FOOT diameter bulbs? Holy shit!

Also, ballasts always look fine unless they catch on fire.
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This. Unless you have an intermittent type of surge issue it is the ballast if both bulbs went out at once.
10/24/2014 8:46:25 PM EDT
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Sounds  like a trip to Lowes is in order
10/24/2014 8:52:21 PM EDT
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Where I used to work I changed a shit load of ballasts. If replacement bulbs don't work and you have 110v to the ballast wires: change the ballast.
While you are in there physically check the bulb sockets to see if there is any damage.
10/24/2014 8:54:46 PM EDT
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Just replace the fixture with a T8 fixture, T5 is better but not enough to justify the price imo. You'll thank me later.
10/28/2014 8:31:12 AM EDT
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I am trying to find a replacement ballast, but am having an issue.

The light fixture takes two 32W circleline bulbs with both bulbs fed off the same ballast with two leads.

The only replacement ballasts I can find that has two leads either has 22W/32W or 32W/40W leads evidently for the different sized circleline bulbs.

Can I use one of these ballasts for the 2 32W setup this fixture has?

OR,

Does someone have better Google-Fu than I and can locate one?
10/28/2014 8:33:40 AM EDT
[#15]
replace entire fixture, probably cheaper than just a ballast.
10/28/2014 8:34:01 AM EDT
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http://www.cree.com/Lighting/Products/Indoor/Upgrade-Solutions/UR-Series

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10/28/2014 8:34:35 AM EDT
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It would seriously be less of a headache to just replace the whole fixture than try to locate a ballast and install it.  They're pretty cheap now a days too.
10/28/2014 8:36:04 AM EDT
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Just replace the fixture with a T8 fixture, T5 is better but not enough to justify the price imo. You'll thank me later.
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We went from mostly T12's to T'8's in our facilities over the past several years (took a while to get it all done)
10/28/2014 8:50:17 AM EDT
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We went from mostly T12's to T'8's in our facilities over the past several years (took a while to get it all done)
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Just replace the fixture with a T8 fixture, T5 is better but not enough to justify the price imo. You'll thank me later.


We went from mostly T12's to T'8's in our facilities over the past several years (took a while to get it all done)

We just did this too. Better light, less power consumption.
10/28/2014 8:50:35 AM EDT
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We went from mostly T12's to T'8's in our facilities over the past several years (took a while to get it all done)
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Just replace the fixture with a T8 fixture, T5 is better but not enough to justify the price imo. You'll thank me later.


We went from mostly T12's to T'8's in our facilities over the past several years (took a while to get it all done)


in that time, we've begun swapping places out to LEDs   the lay in fixtures are pretty bad ass
10/28/2014 8:54:50 AM EDT
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A complete fixture usually costs less than a ballast these days which really doesn't make sense. I have replaced several fixtures in my shop and my home garage lately, much easier too.
10/28/2014 9:10:22 AM EDT
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Have ya'll priced light fixtures lately?

This isn't just a utilitarian shop light. I have to satisfy the sammich maker in her kitchen. It is decorative brushed stainless finished. I cant find another one that will satisfy her tastes for less than $150+.

If I can find a ballast for $25 -30, I am ok with that since I can install it myself.

The ballast looks like this:

http://www.ballastshop.com/veb82234-with-socket-connector.html
10/28/2014 9:20:47 AM EDT
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Have ya'll priced light fixtures lately?

This isn't just a utilitarian shop light. I have to satisfy the sammich maker in her kitchen. It is decorative brushed stainless finished. I cant find another one that will satisfy her tastes for less than $150+.

If I can find a ballast for $25 -30, I am ok with that since I can install it myself.

The ballast looks like this:

http://www.ballastshop.com/veb82234-with-socket-connector.html
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buy new fixture that uses the same bulbs, take that ballast out, put it in your fancy fixture...
10/28/2014 9:28:02 AM EDT
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in that time, we've begun swapping places out to LEDs   the lay in fixtures are pretty bad ass
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Just replace the fixture with a T8 fixture, T5 is better but not enough to justify the price imo. You'll thank me later.


We went from mostly T12's to T'8's in our facilities over the past several years (took a while to get it all done)


in that time, we've begun swapping places out to LEDs   the lay in fixtures are pretty bad ass


They were discussing that too for the near future
10/28/2014 9:28:15 AM EDT
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Ballast....needs love