[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Forgiveness (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 4/11/2012 5:08:57 PM EDT
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Some here have a issue with forgiveness (as I used to)
My wife taught me about forgiveness. She has been through extremely bad things and Forgave 100%. It took me a long time to understand how she could. I now understand that holding onto that anger only binds you and holds you at the mercy of the one who harmed you. By forgiving you release yourself. and in forgiving you take the hold they have on you away. Now to clarify just because I forgive a person does not mean I associate with them. I forgave my brother, but I will not associate with him. Just passing this along to those who have held on to the hurt and anger, in the end it only rips you apart, it does nothing to the one who harmed you. |
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Some here have a issue with forgiveness (as I used to) My wife taught me about forgiveness. She has been through extremely bad things and Forgave 100%. It took me a long time to understand how she could. I now understand that holding onto that anger only binds you and holds you at the mercy of the one who harmed you. By forgiving you release yourself. and in forgiving you take the hold they have on you away. Now to clarify just because I forgive a person does not mean I associate with them. I forgave my brother, but I will not associate with him. Just passing this along to those who have held on to the hurt and anger, in the end it only rips you apart, it does nothing to the one who harmed you. Nicely said. |
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9After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
10Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven. 11Give us this day our daily bread. 12And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors. 13And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen. 14For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: 15But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses. Of all the things we are commanded to 'do' as Christians, forgiving someone who has truly harmed you is, by far, the hardest one, or so it seems to me. Knocking on doors to do evangelism? Easy. Flying halfway around the world on a missions trip to some scary place? Piece of cake. Been there, done it repeatedly, not a big deal. Forgiving someone who has wronged you and walked away without being caught or confessing it? Absolutely impossible by human terms; only possible through the strength God provides. |
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Some here have a issue with forgiveness (as I used to) My wife taught me about forgiveness. She has been through extremely bad things and Forgave 100%. It took me a long time to understand how she could. I now understand that holding onto that anger only binds you and holds you at the mercy of the one who harmed you. By forgiving you release yourself. and in forgiving you take the hold they have on you away. Now to clarify just because I forgive a person does not mean I associate with them. I forgave my brother, but I will not associate with him. Just passing this along to those who have held on to the hurt and anger, in the end it only rips you apart, it does nothing to the one who harmed you. Amen. I believe in forgiveness. I do not have to forget however, nor do I. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. |
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9After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
10Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven. 11Give us this day our daily bread. 12And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors. 13And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen. 14For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: 15But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses. Of all the things we are commanded to 'do' as Christians, forgiving someone who has truly harmed you is, by far, the hardest one, or so it seems to me. Knocking on doors to do evangelism? Easy. Flying halfway around the world on a missions trip to some scary place? Piece of cake. Been there, done it repeatedly, not a big deal. Forgiving someone who has wronged you and walked away without being caught or confessing it? Absolutely impossible by human terms; only possible through the strength God provides. Even as an atheist, I'm actually okay with forgiving someone who wronged me, even as they refuse to acknowledge what they did. At the same time, I more or less cut off all contact with them (depending on what they did). What I'm really doing, is moving on and refusing to dwell on it any longer. Time heals all wounds, as they say. |
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Gun Collection tomorrow at 9am to get rid of those evil tools that bind you to wanting to defend something material such as your home.........you guys all should be forgiving those that want to take all of your belongings. Better yet...you should donate them.
9am - Evil Black Rifle Turn in. Let me know who wants them picked up and I will take these burdens off of your hands. Never heard the saying Peace through Superior Forgiveness Guess some here have...... |
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Gun Collection tomorrow at 9am to get rid of those evil tools that bind you to wanting to defend something material such as your home.........you guys all should be forgiving those that want to take all of your belongings. Better yet...you should donate them. 9am - Evil Black Rifle Turn in. Let me know who wants them picked up and I will take these burdens off of your hands. Never heard the saying Peace through Superior Forgiveness Guess some here have...... 
Forgiveness doesn't mean you don't stop someone from doing bad things, or that you allow them to do it again. You really shouldn't post when you don't know what you're talking about. |
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Gun Collection tomorrow at 9am to get rid of those evil tools that bind you to wanting to defend something material such as your home.........you guys all should be forgiving those that want to take all of your belongings. Better yet...you should donate them. 9am - Evil Black Rifle Turn in. Let me know who wants them picked up and I will take these burdens off of your hands. Never heard the saying Peace through Superior Forgiveness Guess some here have......
Forgiveness doesn't mean you don't stop someone from doing bad things, or that you allow them to do it again. You really shouldn't post when you don't know what you're talking about. how many weapons did Jesus own? LMFAO can you say "hypocrite"? |
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Gun Collection tomorrow at 9am to get rid of those evil tools that bind you to wanting to defend something material such as your home.........you guys all should be forgiving those that want to take all of your belongings. Better yet...you should donate them. 9am - Evil Black Rifle Turn in. Let me know who wants them picked up and I will take these burdens off of your hands. Never heard the saying Peace through Superior Forgiveness Guess some here have......
Forgiveness doesn't mean you don't stop someone from doing bad things, or that you allow them to do it again. You really shouldn't post when you don't know what you're talking about. how many weapons did Jesus own? LMFAO All of them. He owns everything in the universe. Including you. 
can you say "hypocrite"?
Sure I can. But there's nothing hypocritical about owning weapons (or using them), and I'm almost positive that you're not so stupid as to try and make such a claim. |
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Gun Collection tomorrow at 9am to get rid of those evil tools that bind you to wanting to defend something material such as your home.........you guys all should be forgiving those that want to take all of your belongings. Better yet...you should donate them. 9am - Evil Black Rifle Turn in. Let me know who wants them picked up and I will take these burdens off of your hands. Never heard the saying Peace through Superior Forgiveness Guess some here have......
Forgiveness doesn't mean you don't stop someone from doing bad things, or that you allow them to do it again. You really shouldn't post when you don't know what you're talking about. how many weapons did Jesus own? LMFAO can you say "hypocrite"? Bible only mentions him using one physical weapon. And commanding others to own other physical weapons. Something tells me you don't understand the meaning of the word you were trying to say. |
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Even as an atheist, I'm actually okay with forgiving someone who wronged me Well, then, you're blessed in that way.
It hasn't came easy for me, to be honest. It doesn't come "easy" for me, or naturally. It's something I eventually came to, rationally. I have to make myself do it, in the same way that I have to force myself to be skeptical of something that REALLY makes a lot of sense to me, at first glance. By allowing the hate to "keep me warm" (to borrow a phrase), I realized that I was in effect allowing somebody else to control my thoughts, my actions, my desires, and my mood. I eventually realized that "letting go" meant I was happier, in the end. I have selfish reasons for forgiving others. Not only does it improve my mental health, but it often has a profound effect on the person whom I've forgiven. It puts me back in control. |
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Forgiveness can be satisfying in its own way. Except when you have the opportunity to throw the bitch to the wolves. |
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I have some people in my past who did some real nasty things to me
and ones I loved; I spent a lot of time dwelling on how I want to get even. Once I finally forgave I saw how much time I wasted, I also realized the damage the anger and unforgiveness did to me (physically as well as mentally). But I also realized it would be unwise to let that person back in my life. I ran into one guy in particular and when he saw me he had a look of pure shame on his face he knew what he did and that I had moved on, but for him he has to live with his actions. I actually felt pity for him. |
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It doesn't come "easy" for me, or naturally. It's something I eventually came to, rationally. I have to make myself do it, in the same way that I have to force myself to be skeptical of something that REALLY makes a lot of sense to me, at first glance. By allowing the hate to "keep me warm" (to borrow a phrase), I realized that I was in effect allowing somebody else to control my thoughts, my actions, my desires, and my mood. I eventually realized that "letting go" meant I was happier, in the end. I have selfish reasons for forgiving others. Not only does it improve my mental health, but it often has a profound effect on the person whom I've forgiven. It puts me back in control. Very important. An old, wise man once told me, "Hatred is like an acid that eats away the vessel it is stored in." I will not waste my life holding hatred. |
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I have some people in my past who did some real nasty things to me and ones I loved; I spent a lot of time dwelling on how I want to get even. Once I finally forgave I saw how much time I wasted, I also realized the damage the anger and unforgiveness did to me (physically as well as mentally). But I also realized it would be unwise to let that person back in my life. I ran into one guy in particular and when he saw me he had a look of pure shame on his face he knew what he did and that I had moved on, but for him he has to live with his actions. I actually felt pity for him. Don't mix humility and ego. |
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I agree. I held a grudge for a long time towards a former boss that forced me out of a company. It was very healthy to finally let go and forgive. There's a certain closure to it.
I don't think I'd blame anyone for not forgiving though. Some wounds run deep and forgiveness is easier said than done. If you're not ready to forgive, then give it a few years and come back to it. |
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Ok, who knocked over a bottle of estrogen in here? Seriously, I had to double check and make sure I hadn't wandered into the women's forum by mistake.
You go around filling yourself up with forgiveness, and you'll have no room for revenge. And revenge tastes SO much sweeter than forgiveness. 
Now, knock off this forgiveness crap before your father sees it. |
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Gun Collection tomorrow at 9am to get rid of those evil tools that bind you to wanting to defend something material such as your home.........you guys all should be forgiving those that want to take all of your belongings. Better yet...you should donate them. 9am - Evil Black Rifle Turn in. Let me know who wants them picked up and I will take these burdens off of your hands. Never heard the saying Peace through Superior Forgiveness Guess some here have......
Forgiveness doesn't mean you don't stop someone from doing bad things, or that you allow them to do it again. You really shouldn't post when you don't know what you're talking about. how many weapons did Jesus own? LMFAO can you say "hypocrite"? This isn't a religious thread. Op was giving sound advice.  Oh, as for Jesus...HE IS A WEAPON. No Earthly things needed.
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Even as an atheist, I'm actually okay with forgiving someone who wronged me Well, then, you're blessed in that way.
It hasn't came easy for me, to be honest. It doesn't come "easy" for me, or naturally. It's something I eventually came to, rationally. I have to make myself do it, in the same way that I have to force myself to be skeptical of something that REALLY makes a lot of sense to me, at first glance. By allowing the hate to "keep me warm" (to borrow a phrase), I realized that I was in effect allowing somebody else to control my thoughts, my actions, my desires, and my mood. I eventually realized that "letting go" meant I was happier, in the end. I have selfish reasons for forgiving others. Not only does it improve my mental health, but it often has a profound effect on the person whom I've forgiven. It puts me back in control. Make no mistake, I agree with every word you're saying. I'm just also saying that, for me, it hasn't been an easy thing and I could NOT do it with my own strength. |