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10/1/2014 4:42:06 PM EDT
I see that there is a current controversy ref. "Race" questions on the 4473. Haven't bought a firearm from a dealer in ahile, but I remember there being questions AFA race for some time.
What revision came out that has folks panties wadded up?
10/1/2014 4:43:01 PM EDT
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in for answers
10/1/2014 4:43:26 PM EDT
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There is a block asking you to check off if you are:

[  ]  Hispanic

[  ]  Non-Hispanic
10/1/2014 4:45:15 PM EDT
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I see that there is a current controversy ref. "Race" questions on the 4473. Haven't bought a firearm from a dealer in ahile, but I remember there being questions AFA race for some time.
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Signed a 4473 a couple of weeks ago.  There's 2 race sections now, apparently.  They're both on the same line, so I skipped it thinking I had already answered.

10/1/2014 4:46:34 PM EDT
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I thought we had a new category "white Hispanic"
10/1/2014 4:48:04 PM EDT
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I noticed awhile back that if I checked multiple boxes, it always resulted in a delay. Since I went to checking one box only (White), the delays are much less frequent. I'm white/native american
10/1/2014 4:48:28 PM EDT
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Signed a 4473 a couple of weeks ago.  There's 2 race sections now, apparently.  They're both on the same line, so I skipped it thinking I had already answered.

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I see that there is a current controversy ref. "Race" questions on the 4473. Haven't bought a firearm from a dealer in ahile, but I remember there being questions AFA race for some time.
What revision came out that has folks panties wadded up?


Signed a 4473 a couple of weeks ago.  There's 2 race sections now, apparently.  They're both on the same line, so I skipped it thinking I had already answered.

http://imgur.com/gO5z897.png



In my State the wrong block checked in 10a will get you an automatic delay of a few days instead of a routine 10 minutes.
10/1/2014 4:50:32 PM EDT
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Check the first and last box.  Problem solved.  
10/1/2014 4:50:37 PM EDT
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In my State the wrong block checked in 10a will get you an automatic delay of a few days instead of a routine 10 minutes.
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I see that there is a current controversy ref. "Race" questions on the 4473. Haven't bought a firearm from a dealer in ahile, but I remember there being questions AFA race for some time.
What revision came out that has folks panties wadded up?


Signed a 4473 a couple of weeks ago.  There's 2 race sections now, apparently.  They're both on the same line, so I skipped it thinking I had already answered.

http://imgur.com/gO5z897.png



In my State the wrong block checked in 10a will get you an automatic delay of a few days instead of a routine 10 minutes.


Not sure about here.  I missed it and the clerk pointed it out, so I did fill it in correctly, but Georgia lets you skip the call if you have a Weapons Carry License.  

Also, I love that we changed it to a Weapons License instead of a Firearm License.  Now it includes knives and such.  
10/1/2014 4:52:09 PM EDT
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That's been on the 4473 since early to mid 2013 I believe.
10/1/2014 4:52:12 PM EDT
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Race/ethnicity questions need to be deleted, as well as gender.  None of those have any bearing.

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10/1/2014 4:52:35 PM EDT
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Signed a 4473 a couple of weeks ago.  There's 2 race sections now, apparently.  They're both on the same line, so I skipped it thinking I had already answered.

http://imgur.com/gO5z897.png
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I see that there is a current controversy ref. "Race" questions on the 4473. Haven't bought a firearm from a dealer in ahile, but I remember there being questions AFA race for some time.
What revision came out that has folks panties wadded up?


Signed a 4473 a couple of weeks ago.  There's 2 race sections now, apparently.  They're both on the same line, so I skipped it thinking I had already answered.

http://imgur.com/gO5z897.png


It's been like that for about 2 years now or so.

Not sure why folks are just now bitching about it.
10/1/2014 4:52:36 PM EDT
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They realized "Hispanic" isn't a race.
10/1/2014 4:54:44 PM EDT
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It's been like that for about 2 years now or so.

Not sure why folks are just now bitching about it.
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I see that there is a current controversy ref. "Race" questions on the 4473. Haven't bought a firearm from a dealer in ahile, but I remember there being questions AFA race for some time.
What revision came out that has folks panties wadded up?


Signed a 4473 a couple of weeks ago.  There's 2 race sections now, apparently.  They're both on the same line, so I skipped it thinking I had already answered.

http://imgur.com/gO5z897.png


It's been like that for about 2 years now or so.

Not sure why folks are just now bitching about it.


Last firearm I needed to fill out a form for was back in early 2011, so it's new to me.
10/1/2014 5:27:46 PM EDT
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It's funny when you get a mixed raced person.


"What should I mark???"
Whatever you think your are...


I had one guy that was white as printer paper.
Somedays he would be Hispanic, sometimes black, sometimes white, sometimes a Hispanic indian
He never once got delayed or denied
10/1/2014 5:34:18 PM EDT
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It's been like that for about 2 years now or so.

Not sure why folks are just now bitching about it.
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I see that there is a current controversy ref. "Race" questions on the 4473. Haven't bought a firearm from a dealer in ahile, but I remember there being questions AFA race for some time.
What revision came out that has folks panties wadded up?


Signed a 4473 a couple of weeks ago.  There's 2 race sections now, apparently.  They're both on the same line, so I skipped it thinking I had already answered.

http://imgur.com/gO5z897.png


It's been like that for about 2 years now or so.

Not sure why folks are just now bitching about it.

Yeah, but they just added it to eNICS a few months ago.
10/1/2014 5:35:09 PM EDT
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Signed a 4473 a couple of weeks ago.  There's 2 race sections now, apparently.  They're both on the same line, so I skipped it thinking I had already answered.

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I see that there is a current controversy ref. "Race" questions on the 4473. Haven't bought a firearm from a dealer in ahile, but I remember there being questions AFA race for some time.
What revision came out that has folks panties wadded up?


Signed a 4473 a couple of weeks ago.  There's 2 race sections now, apparently.  They're both on the same line, so I skipped it thinking I had already answered.

http://imgur.com/gO5z897.png



Yep, missed that 10a, thought answering 10b was it.
10/1/2014 5:37:06 PM EDT
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It helps them build a better gun registry.
10/1/2014 5:38:21 PM EDT
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What would happen if I put hispanic on one 4473 and then fill one out a few months later and put non hispanic?
10/1/2014 5:38:36 PM EDT
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Race/ethnicity questions need to be deleted, as well as gender.  None of those have any bearing.

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I would add that the 4473 needs to be deleted, none of it has any bearing!
10/1/2014 5:40:25 PM EDT
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I have more of a problem with the hair color box.
10/1/2014 5:40:58 PM EDT
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Yep, missed that 10a, thought answering 10b was it.
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I see that there is a current controversy ref. "Race" questions on the 4473. Haven't bought a firearm from a dealer in ahile, but I remember there being questions AFA race for some time.
What revision came out that has folks panties wadded up?


Signed a 4473 a couple of weeks ago.  There's 2 race sections now, apparently.  They're both on the same line, so I skipped it thinking I had already answered.

http://imgur.com/gO5z897.png



Yep, missed that 10a, thought answering 10b was it.

I explain it very thoroughly,  and everybody misses one of the 2  almost every time.  Dont feel bad.
10/1/2014 5:41:50 PM EDT
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I would add that the 4473 needs to be deleted, none of it has any bearing!
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I would add that the 4473 needs to be deleted, none of it has any bearing!

10/1/2014 5:42:25 PM EDT
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I check black white and native american.
10/1/2014 5:42:57 PM EDT
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check all the boxes, tell them you're a mut
10/1/2014 5:43:05 PM EDT
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I'm European American.


10/1/2014 5:44:08 PM EDT
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I've checked all of the boxes
10/1/2014 5:52:24 PM EDT
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We can not discriminate by law...so tell us what race you are so we can " not" discriminate against you at all..
10/1/2014 5:53:58 PM EDT
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Where's the "I am white and I don't hate myself and you can go to hell" check box?

10/1/2014 5:54:50 PM EDT
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I am a Highlander Viking, where is my block
10/1/2014 5:56:24 PM EDT
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I've always checked "Non Hispanic" and "White"

10/1/2014 5:57:03 PM EDT
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But "White" is?
10/1/2014 6:04:46 PM EDT
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I would add that the 4473 needs to be deleted, none of it has any bearing!
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I would add that the 4473 needs to be deleted, none of it has any bearing!

True!

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10/1/2014 6:07:30 PM EDT
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It's funny when you get a mixed raced person.


"What should I mark???"
Whatever you think your are...


I had one guy that was white as printer paper.
Somedays he would be Hispanic, sometimes black, sometimes white, sometimes a Hispanic indian
He never once got delayed or denied
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My parent's loved messing with the school's ethnicity surveys.

I'd get put in as my Mom's race while my little brother would be entered as my Dad's.  One time the school called my Mom and she told them it's because I look more like her while my brother looks more like my Dad.  Then they asked her if it would be OK to change my brother's race and she responded that she's 50/50 on being OK with it.
10/1/2014 6:08:51 PM EDT
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I always choose the Race that makes me the happiest for that day.
10/1/2014 6:09:28 PM EDT
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I've always checked "Non Hispanic" and "White"

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Yeah My ffl makes me check the Non hispanic box as well.
10/1/2014 6:10:27 PM EDT
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But "White" is?
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But "White" is?


Yeah. European Caucasian.

Same way "Latino" can be considered a race, but it's actually a mix of two.
10/1/2014 6:17:25 PM EDT
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Has anyone scribbled "FUCK OFF" across the race boxes? What happens then?
10/1/2014 6:20:23 PM EDT
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The whole fucking form needs to be deleted.



 
10/1/2014 6:21:46 PM EDT
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Last several times. Latino white. No delays.
10/1/2014 6:23:16 PM EDT
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I just wrinte in Vulcan. Since I don't have to go thru a background check I don't care.
10/1/2014 7:06:36 PM EDT
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In today's society where you can self identify as whatever gender you please, you should be able to identify as whatever race you please, regardless of skin color.



For example, you might be an asian woman trapped in a hispanic man's body.









10/1/2014 7:23:06 PM EDT
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I noticed awhile back that if I checked multiple boxes, it always resulted in a delay. Since I went to checking one box only (White), the delays are much less frequent. I'm white/native american
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I don't know how other states interface with NICS, but here in NV they ask

Name
DOB
Type of gun
Driver's license #
State/Country of residence
State of birth

It is reasonable to infer that this is the minimum required by NICS, so I would bet that none of the race info had anything to do with a delay you have experienced.
10/1/2014 7:32:45 PM EDT
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I always want to answer "10K"
10/1/2014 7:43:20 PM EDT
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You suck