Foxtrot08 makes an oil thread! (Page 160 of 160)
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Originally Posted By victorgonzales: Found out a couple of old gallons i had for my daughters civic were synthetic blend instead of full. Put it in to get rid of it. Should I do 3 k change on that a stuff? I would use it. |
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Originally Posted By victorgonzales: Anyone know why we only get 91 octane and not 93 for premium in arizona? Is it the refinery source? Elevation. 93 octane is needed at sea level because the air is more dense. As you increase elevation, the oxygen level gets less dense. Which is a natural way of lowering compression. So there’s no need to blend 93 octane there. Thus, they blend 91. |
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Originally Posted By bigt61: @Foxtrot08 I have a 2018 Nissan “Direct Injection” 5.6 motor. Since you’re the Omnipotent One, do you recommend 0-20, 5-20, or 5-30 for this engine? I’m only 1 oil change in with 5,300 original miles and I just changed it at 4k with 5-30 synthetic and a Mobil 1 filter This is the answer I’m in for. I just picked up a Nissan truck with the same engine. I’ve read conflicting information but I’m leaning towards putting 5w-30 in it. |
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Originally Posted By Ioannem: This is the answer I’m in for. I just picked up a Nissan truck with the same engine. I’ve read conflicting information but I’m leaning towards putting 5w-30 in it. Originally Posted By Ioannem: Originally Posted By bigt61: @Foxtrot08 I have a 2018 Nissan “Direct Injection” 5.6 motor. Since you’re the Omnipotent One, do you recommend 0-20, 5-20, or 5-30 for this engine? I’m only 1 oil change in with 5,300 original miles and I just changed it at 4k with 5-30 synthetic and a Mobil 1 filter This is the answer I’m in for. I just picked up a Nissan truck with the same engine. I’ve read conflicting information but I’m leaning towards putting 5w-30 in it. I would just put 5w30 in it personally. That’s not saying there’s anything wrong with 0w20 or any 20w. Just, I’m lazy and it’s what’s in the bulk tank at the shop. |
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Originally Posted By Ioannem: This is the answer I'm in for. I just picked up a Nissan truck with the same engine. I've read conflicting information but I'm leaning towards putting 5w-30 in it. |
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Originally Posted By einnor1040: My wife was just Facebooking with her cousin in Norway. Gas is $9 a gallon. Diesel is $11. Here the cheapest gas (E10) is 10.0 USD per gallon and diesel $10.9. Currently 49 % of those prices are taxes, including VAT on fuel tax, that is paying tax on another tax. |
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Originally Posted By Red_Blue: Here the cheapest gas (E10) is 10.0 USD per gallon and diesel $10.9. Currently 49 % of those prices are taxes, including VAT on fuel tax, that is paying tax on another tax. Originally Posted By Red_Blue: Originally Posted By einnor1040: My wife was just Facebooking with her cousin in Norway. Gas is $9 a gallon. Diesel is $11. Here the cheapest gas (E10) is 10.0 USD per gallon and diesel $10.9. Currently 49 % of those prices are taxes, including VAT on fuel tax, that is paying tax on another tax. |
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Originally Posted By Red_Blue: Here the cheapest gas (E10) is 10.0 USD per gallon and diesel $10.9. Currently 49 % of those prices are taxes, including VAT on fuel tax, that is paying tax on another tax. Originally Posted By Red_Blue: Originally Posted By einnor1040: My wife was just Facebooking with her cousin in Norway. Gas is $9 a gallon. Diesel is $11. Here the cheapest gas (E10) is 10.0 USD per gallon and diesel $10.9. Currently 49 % of those prices are taxes, including VAT on fuel tax, that is paying tax on another tax. ''Free'' health insurance for all is never free. $10 a gallon here would make our economy crumble. |
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Originally Posted By fxntime: ''Free'' health insurance for all is never free. $10 a gallon here would make our economy crumble. Originally Posted By fxntime: Originally Posted By Red_Blue: Originally Posted By einnor1040: My wife was just Facebooking with her cousin in Norway. Gas is $9 a gallon. Diesel is $11. Here the cheapest gas (E10) is 10.0 USD per gallon and diesel $10.9. Currently 49 % of those prices are taxes, including VAT on fuel tax, that is paying tax on another tax. ''Free'' health insurance for all is never free. $10 a gallon here would make our economy crumble. |
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diesel export ban I thought I saw someone propose this idea in GD somewhere...maybe last week? Is Congress getting their ideas from reading threads in GD ?!? 
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Originally Posted By 4Teen_R: diesel export ban I thought I saw someone propose this idea in GD somewhere...maybe last week? Is Congress getting their ideas from reading threads in GD ?!? Yeah. What a terrible idea. |
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Originally Posted By Foxtrot08: So any "blend" change isn't dramatic like gasoline. They may use more cold flow improvers, which are blended in after refining. Or they may blend #1 into #2, so that they can meet the cold filter plug points and such the region generally needs. It's less of a regulatory thing. More fitting the region they sell fuel in. If that makes sense. As the catalysts age and get towards replacement time. The refiner may need to use more additive or blend it more with #1 to meet published specifications. That being said. If they did a fresh catalyst replacement and just came out of a turn around, they may be making awesome fuel with a CFPP of like -52f. So there's a few factors going on. But it's not as regulatory driven as gasoline where there's like 52 different distinctive blends. And a summer / winter blend. |
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Originally Posted By Foxtrot08: The “crack spread” simply described in other terms is gross profit. Refiners just use the term crack spread. So your “typical” US refiner has a 3:2:1 crack spread. Meaning out of 3 barrels of crude, you’ll get 2 barrels of gasoline and 1 barrel of distillate. (Diesel / kerosene / jet fuel.) So you add up the wholesale traded price of 2 barrels gasoline and 1 barrel of distillates. Then subtract the traded price of 3 barrels of crude. This will give you a very rough crack spread. Mind you, this is extremely rough. Because refineries in the U.S. make other products, have refinery gains, etc. but, its a good rough estimate. You can also have 5:3:2 or you could uno reverse it and do 3:1:2 if you have the right crude sources. Etc. So a rough estimate today, for a 3:2:1 spread would be $423.42, based off WTI crude pricing and Nymex RBOB and Distillate prices. They’re making about $141.14 / bbl. (42 gallons.) A year ago was $25.72 / bbl. Originally Posted By Foxtrot08: Originally Posted By stgdz: So what is "the spread" and "cracking" when it comes to diesel production. I've seen it mentioned a few times. The “crack spread” simply described in other terms is gross profit. Refiners just use the term crack spread. So your “typical” US refiner has a 3:2:1 crack spread. Meaning out of 3 barrels of crude, you’ll get 2 barrels of gasoline and 1 barrel of distillate. (Diesel / kerosene / jet fuel.) So you add up the wholesale traded price of 2 barrels gasoline and 1 barrel of distillates. Then subtract the traded price of 3 barrels of crude. This will give you a very rough crack spread. Mind you, this is extremely rough. Because refineries in the U.S. make other products, have refinery gains, etc. but, its a good rough estimate. You can also have 5:3:2 or you could uno reverse it and do 3:1:2 if you have the right crude sources. Etc. So a rough estimate today, for a 3:2:1 spread would be $423.42, based off WTI crude pricing and Nymex RBOB and Distillate prices. They’re making about $141.14 / bbl. (42 gallons.) A year ago was $25.72 / bbl. Dang. |
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Originally Posted By 4Teen_R: diesel export ban I thought I saw someone propose this idea in GD somewhere...maybe last week? Is Congress getting their ideas from reading threads in GD ?!? FFS. |
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Originally Posted By PhuzzyGnu: It's not like wars start over shit like this or anything. FFS. Originally Posted By PhuzzyGnu: Originally Posted By 4Teen_R: diesel export ban I thought I saw someone propose this idea in GD somewhere...maybe last week? Is Congress getting their ideas from reading threads in GD ?!? FFS. 
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Originally Posted By PhuzzyGnu: It's not like wars start over shit like this or anything. FFS. Originally Posted By PhuzzyGnu: Originally Posted By 4Teen_R: diesel export ban I thought I saw someone propose this idea in GD somewhere...maybe last week? Is Congress getting their ideas from reading threads in GD ?!? FFS. It’s OK. We can just avoid calling them wars.
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Originally Posted By 4Teen_R: diesel export ban I thought I saw someone propose this idea in GD somewhere...maybe last week? Is Congress getting their ideas from reading threads in GD ?!? Export ban will lead to higher prices. Diesel inventories quickly fill. Refineries cut back production of diesel. This leads to less gasoline and jet fuel being produced, those prices increase. The East and West Coasts lack adequate pipeline connections to the Gulf Coast and rely heavily on waterborne foreign imports for their fuel supply. Global prices would skyrocket if the U.S. put an export ban in place, causing prices to rapidly increase in those areas. Our international trading partners would most likely retaliate. Creating a whole host of problems. Export ban would slash deeply into a refineries profit. Refineries decide to do that deferred maintenance they have been putting off. With a massive wave of sudden maintenance shutdowns, it will take millions of barrels of all fuel types off the domestic market simultaneously, driving pump prices even higher. So yeah it’s pretty stupid to do a total export ban of diesel. |
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Originally Posted By Longshore87: Export ban will lead to higher prices. Diesel inventories quickly fill. Refineries cut back production of diesel. This leads to less gasoline and jet fuel being produced, those prices increase. The East and West Coasts lack adequate pipeline connections to the Gulf Coast and rely heavily on waterborne foreign imports for their fuel supply. Global prices would skyrocket if the U.S. put an export ban in place, causing prices to rapidly increase in those areas. Our international trading partners would most likely retaliate. Creating a whole host of problems. Export ban would slash deeply into a refineries profit. Refineries decide to do that deferred maintenance they have been putting off. With a massive wave of sudden maintenance shutdowns, it will take millions of barrels of all fuel types off the domestic market simultaneously, driving pump prices even higher. So yeah it’s pretty stupid to do a total export ban of diesel. Isn't jet fuel diesel? |
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Originally Posted By Red_Blue: Here the cheapest gas (E10) is 10.0 USD per gallon and diesel $10.9. Currently 49 % of those prices are taxes, including VAT on fuel tax, that is paying tax on another tax. Originally Posted By Red_Blue: Originally Posted By einnor1040: My wife was just Facebooking with her cousin in Norway. Gas is $9 a gallon. Diesel is $11. Here the cheapest gas (E10) is 10.0 USD per gallon and diesel $10.9. Currently 49 % of those prices are taxes, including VAT on fuel tax, that is paying tax on another tax. Adding VAT based on the cost with tax is just insulting. If anyone ever wonders why fuel is expensive, check the taxes on it... Government makes more on gas than the gas station. |
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Originally Posted By 2JokersWild: I wonder how oil reformulations will impact vehicle oil monitor systems. The computer is hard coded to expect a certain type of oil to then track the oil life. Wonder if different oils will have different life spans and end up screwing up the oil life monitor The Ford system simply calculates time, miles, starts and stops and temperature, maybe a few more metrics. It doesn't care if you have 10W30 or Campbells Chicken soup. |
| I've been seeing videos from folks who are testing Mobil 1 Advanced Clean, comparing it to VR&P. The word is that it's a more aggressive engine cleaning oil. I have some in my inventory to try. I may pick up some more before the next Wal Mart oil price hike, which is probably coming soon. Has anyone here tried it yet? |
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Originally Posted By 2JokersWild: I wonder how oil reformulations will impact vehicle oil monitor systems. The computer is hard coded to expect a certain type of oil to then track the oil life. Wonder if different oils will have different life spans and end up screwing up the oil life monitor The OLM algorithm that Dr Shirley Schwartz designed, is so over kill that it will be fine. She worked for GM and is the mother of the oil life monitor. Every auto manufacturer uses her same base algorithm. GM lets anyone use it for free. She was doing tests out to 40,000+ miles at times on it. Blends, Mobil 1, etc. all during the 70s and 80s. |
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| Oil change interval in a low hour boat- once a year even if only 10 hours use? Standard GM I/O, stored away from water in a garage up north. Low humidity. Only 125 hours on the engine in 10 years. Is that low hour use still enough on an engine that is barely broken in? I could send oil in for analysis I guess, or just change it with my bucket pump down the dipstick. Sometimes I don't remember if I did or not in the Fall as there is no filter to write a date on (internal cartridge type). Lately, I just take a picture and then I can scroll back through images by year to look. I'm sure I didn't change it last Fall, just slapped a new filter in ran it a few hours this summer. |
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Originally Posted By TaxPayer77: Oil change interval in a low hour boat- once a year even if only 10 hours use? Standard GM I/O, stored away from water in a garage up north. Low humidity. Only 125 hours on the engine in 10 years. Is that low hour use still enough on an engine that is barely broken in? I could send oil in for analysis I guess, or just change it with my bucket pump down the dipstick. Sometimes I don't remember if I did or not in the Fall as there is no filter to write a date on (internal cartridge type). Lately, I just take a picture and then I can scroll back through images by year to look. I'm sure I didn't change it last Fall, just slapped a new filter in ran it a few hours this summer. The engine is broken in enough. As for once a year - what are your storage conditions like? Is it stored inside? Like a garage? Or does it get wrapped and stay outside? |
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Originally Posted By 2JokersWild: I wonder how oil reformulations will impact vehicle oil monitor systems. The computer is hard coded to expect a certain type of oil to then track the oil life. Wonder if different oils will have different life spans and end up screwing up the oil life monitor It doesn’t know if you’re using conventional or synthetic. It doesn’t care if you’re using a w20 or w40 for oil. |
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Originally Posted By Foxtrot08: The engine is broken in enough. As for once a year - what are your storage conditions like? Is it stored inside? Like a garage? Or does it get wrapped and stay outside? Pull boat from water after day use. Remove everything (including lines, anchors, fenders etc) out of it and open all hatches to dry. Wipe it down. Back it in the garage. Not a spec of mildew in the bilge this way. I don't wrap it, it has a mooring cover I snap on to keep dust off, once I know its been dry for a month for winter storage and its really 50F in there at the coldest. It lives in the garage and not stored outside. |
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Originally Posted By TaxPayer77: Pull boat from water after day use. Remove everything (including lines, anchors, fenders etc) out of it and open all hatches to dry. Wipe it down. Back it in the garage. Not a spec of mildew in the bilge this way. I don't wrap it, it has a mooring cover I snap on to keep dust off, once I know its been dry for a month for winter storage and its really 50F in there at the coldest. It lives in the garage and not stored outside. Originally Posted By TaxPayer77: Originally Posted By Foxtrot08: The engine is broken in enough. As for once a year - what are your storage conditions like? Is it stored inside? Like a garage? Or does it get wrapped and stay outside? Pull boat from water after day use. Remove everything (including lines, anchors, fenders etc) out of it and open all hatches to dry. Wipe it down. Back it in the garage. Not a spec of mildew in the bilge this way. I don't wrap it, it has a mooring cover I snap on to keep dust off, once I know its been dry for a month for winter storage and its really 50F in there at the coldest. It lives in the garage and not stored outside. Yeah at 10 hours you’re probably wasting oil draining it. If it makes you happy, of course go for it. But on the technical side, that product is fine. If it was parked out back getting rained on for a year. I would be more skeptical, you know? |
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Originally Posted By Foxtrot08: Yeah at 10 hours you’re probably wasting oil draining it. If it makes you happy, of course go for it. But on the technical side, that product is fine. If it was parked out back getting rained on for a year. I would be more skeptical, you know? Thanks! That's kind of what I'm thinking, if it had a million hours and blow by and a turbo, sure, change it, but a NA engine that isn't run hard and should have good ring seal oil should be fine. Temp never gets over 175F. I'll change it this Fall since I'm thinking most likely last time I changed it was Fall of 2024 with 10w-40 synthetic. |
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Originally Posted By Foxtrot08: Also woke up to a price increase notice. |
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Originally Posted By TheLASwamp: I've been seeing videos from folks who are testing Mobil 1 Advanced Clean, comparing it to VR&P. The word is that it's a more aggressive engine cleaning oil. I have some in my inventory to try. I may pick up some more before the next Wal Mart oil price hike, which is probably coming soon. Has anyone here tried it yet? Are there any concerns with using these types of oils in older, high mileage vehicles causing oil leaks? |
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Originally Posted By baogongmeo: Are there any concerns with using these types of oils in older, high mileage vehicles causing oil leaks? Originally Posted By baogongmeo: Originally Posted By TheLASwamp: I've been seeing videos from folks who are testing Mobil 1 Advanced Clean, comparing it to VR&P. The word is that it's a more aggressive engine cleaning oil. I have some in my inventory to try. I may pick up some more before the next Wal Mart oil price hike, which is probably coming soon. Has anyone here tried it yet? Are there any concerns with using these types of oils in older, high mileage vehicles causing oil leaks? If it’s going to leak, it’s going to leak. |
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Originally Posted By Foxtrot08: If it’s going to leak, it’s going to leak. Well the reason I asked is because several years ago I did an oil change in my 1952 8N that leaked very little prior to using synthetic for an oil change. After brush-hogging a couple of times it was leaking bad... so bad that I drained the oil after a dozen hours or so. Went back to dinosaur oil and over several oil changes it was back to normal. This is a tractor that I keep a piece of cardboard under the engine area where I park it in the barn... the cardboard is several years old now and still not soaked with oil. |
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Originally Posted By baogongmeo: Well the reason I asked is because several years ago I did an oil change in my 1952 8N that leaked very little prior to using synthetic for an oil change. After brush-hogging a couple of times it was leaking bad... so bad that I drained the oil after a dozen hours or so. Went back to dinosaur oil and over several oil changes it was back to normal. This is a tractor that I keep a piece of cardboard under the engine area where I park it in the barn... the cardboard is several years old now and still not soaked with oil. Originally Posted By baogongmeo: Originally Posted By Foxtrot08: If it’s going to leak, it’s going to leak. Well the reason I asked is because several years ago I did an oil change in my 1952 8N that leaked very little prior to using synthetic for an oil change. After brush-hogging a couple of times it was leaking bad... so bad that I drained the oil after a dozen hours or so. Went back to dinosaur oil and over several oil changes it was back to normal. This is a tractor that I keep a piece of cardboard under the engine area where I park it in the barn... the cardboard is several years old now and still not soaked with oil. Ok a 74 year old tractor is a little different than a 1990s F150. Anything made 1980s and beyond will have gasket / seals that are compatible with modern engine oils. 1970s depends. Anything pre-1970s that uses cork or felt gaskets, can have compatibility issues. Unless the engine was rebuilt using modern seals and gaskets. I wouldn’t describe that tractor as old and high mileage. It’s… antique. |
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Originally Posted By Foxtrot08: Ok a 74 year old tractor is a little different than a 1990s F150. Anything made 1980s and beyond will have gasket / seals that are compatible with modern engine oils. 1970s depends. Anything pre-1970s that uses cork or felt gaskets, can have compatibility issues. Unless the engine was rebuilt using modern seals and gaskets. I wouldn’t describe that tractor as old and high mileage. It’s… antique. The dinosaur oil I went back to was current production modern engine oil just not synthetic. |
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