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9/11/2016 10:29:37 PM EDT
Just installed FreeNAS on an older box. Followed the instructions I saw online for DHCP, but it's not able to grab an IP. Homegroup is on Windows 10 on another machine upstairs. I installed Win7 on another 160GB HDD on this same machine and verified hardware/NIC is good, go back to FreeNAS HDD and it gives network not discoverable or some such... TIA for any help.
9/11/2016 10:42:24 PM EDT
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got drivers loaded for the nic? can you see the interface? does it configure? can you manually assign an ip and network and ping the dhcp server?
9/11/2016 11:07:33 PM EDT
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I haven't done anything as far as drivers... Its a 7-8 year old ASUS mobo with athlon 64 X2 dual core CPU, the board has onboard NIC, video etc. Not sure  I can see ethernet controller, unless I recoonect that HDD with windows on it...
 
9/11/2016 11:11:16 PM EDT
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May have to find linux-flavor drivers for that mobo's NIC chipset - they aren't necessarily available on any and all distros unless they're extremely common cards/chipsets. If not, might have to add in a pci NIC for which you do have a driver or built-in kernel support.

Can test the theory with something generic like a linksys USB NIC and see if that configures.
9/11/2016 11:33:33 PM EDT
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Is there any message in the FreeNAS startup that would tell me it's not seeing the NIC as opposed to just not able to connect to the network?



If it helps when I reboot I see...




"Starting dhclient.




re0: no link .... got link

re0: link state changed to UP

DHCPDiscover on re0 to 255.255.255.255" etc.




...any specific line I need to look at?
9/11/2016 11:42:51 PM EDT
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I don't have any other other external NICs here to try FYI...


9/12/2016 12:00:24 AM EDT
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detected and configured ethernet devices will usually show as en<x> or eth<x>, occasionally ne<x>

Plugging in a usb ethernet while running and monitoring the syslog or messages (depending on distro) will show the USB detection sequence, and assignment of an interface if detected and configured.

You can also sift the log for references to the chipset, if you know the maker or number, to see if you can find any error messages related to it.

lastly, do an ls on /dev/eth* or /dev/en* to see if anything's been created, though there might be static devices with no configured hardware, even if the listing shows nodes.

If no nodes and no messages and no external nics or other cards to try, you're sol until you get something to try
9/12/2016 12:09:41 AM EDT
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Thanks, I can probably pick up USB NIC at Microcenter tomorrow...
9/12/2016 12:19:56 AM EDT
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lastly, do an ls on /dev/eth* or /dev/en* to see if anything's been created



Not exactly sure what that means but if you give me a hint I'll check them out...
9/12/2016 12:32:59 AM EDT
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Not exactly sure what that means but if you give me a hint I'll check them out...
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ls - the list command
ls /dev/eth*
ls /dev/en*
ls /dev/ne*

ls -lh if you prefer, for a bit more information about any device nodes it turns up.


If you don't understand the ls command from the prompt, there's no point my going any further, sorry. It's all shell wizardry from there on out.
9/12/2016 4:12:55 AM EDT
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synology OS is better than FreeNAS.



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9/12/2016 12:48:09 PM EDT
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Details? I've heard good things about the latter and the latest release is supposed to have some nice GUI additions for configuration/monitoring.

I've got it standing by but haven't gotten around to installing it yet.
9/12/2016 1:06:14 PM EDT
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Details? I've heard good things about the latter and the latest release is supposed to have some nice GUI additions for configuration/monitoring.

I've got it standing by but haven't gotten around to installing it yet.
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Details? I've heard good things about the latter and the latest release is supposed to have some nice GUI additions for configuration/monitoring.

I've got it standing by but haven't gotten around to installing it yet.

It's called xpenology. About the same way freenas installs on a thumb drive. Right now xpenology 6 is kinda working but I wouldn't use it for data you cared about at all. Right now the people that work on it are waiting on synology to release the code which they have not done and isn't following the GPL. Freenas is BSD so I would look at the NIC  drivers for BSD support instead Linux.
9/12/2016 1:35:34 PM EDT
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I get "no file or directory" from ls dev/eth1



ifconfig -a returns a mac address etc.




Thanks again...
9/12/2016 2:28:06 PM EDT
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Which is why I posted "ls /dev/eth*", not "ls dev/eth*" - every bit of syntax is important from the commandline. Hope you get things worked out.
9/12/2016 4:53:12 PM EDT
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Sorry I did try that first, I got "no match" i believe ...at the office now.
9/13/2016 7:51:50 AM EDT
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What computer/motherboard?  NIC support might be an issue.  If all else fails, buy an Intel NIC and disable the onboard.
9/13/2016 11:28:03 AM EDT
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Its an ASUS motherboard with onboard NIC. I'm buying another today to try again.
9/13/2016 8:21:27 PM EDT
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PCI NIC solved it, thanks. Logged in remotely and created my volume, anybody suggest some tutorials?
9/14/2016 9:14:28 AM EDT
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FreeNAS has it's own youtube channel.

 



9/15/2016 12:12:24 AM EDT
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Does it answer my next question? Yesterday I got access from remote a PC and set up the CIFS shares etc on the NAS, tonight when I try to access the shared drive from a W10 PC I get asked for a login!? I never set this as far as I can recall... WTF?  
9/15/2016 12:12:05 PM EDT
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Does it answer my next question? Yesterday I got access from remote a PC and set up the CIFS shares etc on the NAS, tonight when I try to access the shared drive from a W10 PC I get asked for a login!? I never set this as far as I can recall... WTF?  
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Did you setup permissions?
9/15/2016 3:41:51 PM EDT
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Does it answer my next question? Yesterday I got access from remote a PC and set up the CIFS shares etc on the NAS, tonight when I try to access the shared drive from a W10 PC I get asked for a login!? I never set this as far as I can recall... WTF?  
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You "should" use a login.  










So under Sharing -> Windows (CIFS) Sharing, you setup your share to the appropriate folder.  No permissions are set here.  Just what you plan to share via CIFS.



Under Services -> CIFS, this is where you can setup permissions to the share above.  I created a separate account (under Accounts) for logging in.  




 
10/1/2016 1:24:48 PM EDT
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OMV is better than both.. :)

My issue w/ FreeNas, is it's resource requirements.  Since it now requires the use of ZFS.. you're gonna have to have a fairly serious machine to run it.  The days of running it on older hardware are older (and I think once OP gets this worked out, he's going to realize that).  The way FreeNAS works w/ it's jails, etc... I'm just not a fan anymore, and I loved it back in the day.  If OMV ever dies (doesn't seem like it's going away any time soon), I'll just run a vanilla Ubuntu Server and run webMin.

Be better off looking at a Linux solution, like OMV.
10/1/2016 3:31:49 PM EDT
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OMV is better than both.. :)

My issue w/ FreeNas, is it's resource requirements.  Since it now requires the use of ZFS.. you're gonna have to have a fairly serious machine to run it.  The days of running it on older hardware are older (and I think once OP gets this worked out, he's going to realize that).  The way FreeNAS works w/ it's jails, etc... I'm just not a fan anymore, and I loved it back in the day.  If OMV ever dies (doesn't seem like it's going away any time soon), I'll just run a vanilla Ubuntu Server and run webMin.

Be better off looking at a Linux solution, like OMV.
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OMV is better than both.. :)

My issue w/ FreeNas, is it's resource requirements.  Since it now requires the use of ZFS.. you're gonna have to have a fairly serious machine to run it.  The days of running it on older hardware are older (and I think once OP gets this worked out, he's going to realize that).  The way FreeNAS works w/ it's jails, etc... I'm just not a fan anymore, and I loved it back in the day.  If OMV ever dies (doesn't seem like it's going away any time soon), I'll just run a vanilla Ubuntu Server and run webMin.

Be better off looking at a Linux solution, like OMV.

The most recent Linux Action Show had a pretty good overview of OMV compared to FreeNAS.
10/1/2016 3:52:56 PM EDT
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FreeNAS is notoriously finicky with NICs.  Glad you got it sorted.  

I like OMV but it has a slightly different target audience than FreeNAS.  It's essentially a Linux fork of FreeNAS which was a good idea from the standpoint that Debian and other distributions have better support for a wider scope of hardware.  Package availability is also much more complete than for the *BSDs.  I'm sure OMV will be around for a while to come.

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10/1/2016 5:53:51 PM EDT
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Version 3 is right around the corner and includes an upgrade to Debian 8.
10/1/2016 6:07:58 PM EDT
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Oh nice.  I'll keep my eye out for it.  I need to turn a couple of UCS servers into an open-source array for our engineers to lab against with all of our partner products.  We've been running into more places that are implementing DIY storage.  Sometimes the result is horrifying but sometimes the right shop with the right people and hardware have some amazing performance that the enterprise storage vendors would never admit is realistic.

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