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5/14/2014 8:35:23 AM EDT
The threads about stolen valor got me thinking about posers/compulsive liars in general.  

Fresh out of school I remember companies requesting transcripts, but seems once you are in the industry for a bit they never check.  I'd bet fudging education and work experience is very prevalent.  Just wondered if anyone has any stories.
5/14/2014 8:41:47 AM EDT
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The threads about stolen valor got me thinking about posers/compulsive liars in general.  

Fresh out of school I remember companies requesting transcripts, but seems once you are in the industry for a bit they never check.  I'd bet fudging education and work experience is very prevalent.  Just wondered if anyone has any stories.
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probably very easy to fuge work experience.  just have your references be some people you know , who can vouch for you.
5/14/2014 8:46:45 AM EDT
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The threads about stolen valor got me thinking about posers/compulsive liars in general.  

Fresh out of school I remember companies requesting transcripts, but seems once you are in the industry for a bit they never check.  I'd bet fudging education and work experience is very prevalent.  Just wondered if anyone has any stories.


probably very easy to fuge work experience.  just have your references be some people you know , who can vouch for you.


Or claim experience from a company that is no longer in business.
5/14/2014 8:48:27 AM EDT
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I cannot imagine people really do this!!













It says OFFICIAL!!!!!
5/14/2014 8:54:54 AM EDT
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a Trauma Hospital where I was a supervisor at hired a new Blood Banker and our management was told by her that she held a SBB ( Specialist in Blood Bank) title which is a very rare educational level to obtain in laboratory medicine, probably the most difficult out there. She came from a Blood Banking Center as a Technologist. the first week it was obvious that she was not a SBB and myself and another lead tech went to management several times regarding her abilities, position and credentials. we were blown off and disregarded and told to give her time to settle in.

one evening her 4th week there I came back from Dinner and noticed her in a frenzy and started paying attention to what she was doing and immediately noticed that she was prepping the wrong blood type Fresh Frozen Plasma for the patient that I prepped earlier in the afternoon. when I asked her about what she was doing she said OR had been needing FFP since I went to dinner. I went to the computer and found that she had checked out and they had given 4 of the wrong blood type FFP to the Patient.

I immediately followed the necessary protocol made the phones calls I needed to had her removed from the Blood Bank. the patient lived. thank God. SHe showed up for work the next day and I refused to let her take a station and sent her home. the following investigation revealed that upper management had never called the Board of Registry to run a credential check.

she was never seen again at the hospital.

CHECK CREDENTIALS...ALWAYS.
5/14/2014 8:56:31 AM EDT
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probably very easy to fuge work experience.  just have your references be some people you know , who can vouch for you.
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The threads about stolen valor got me thinking about posers/compulsive liars in general.  

Fresh out of school I remember companies requesting transcripts, but seems once you are in the industry for a bit they never check.  I'd bet fudging education and work experience is very prevalent.  Just wondered if anyone has any stories.


probably very easy to fuge work experience.  just have your references be some people you know , who can vouch for you.


Wouldn't fly for us.  You list an engineering company you worked for locally, and I can find out your rep within 2 phone calls to people I know.  I don't call references for two reasons, the first is as you mentioned, that number could be a friend, second, a previous employer can only verify that you did work for them, if you are eligible for rehire, and what salary you made.  If I want to know what kind of an engineer you are, I can get honest opinions by avoiding refs and HR.

I had one guy bring in drawings to show his work.  He handed me some pretty advanced assembly drawings, far more advanced than his experience should have been.  On the way out of the interview, he pointed out one our draftsman and made mention that he worked with him at XYZ company.  Perfect, makes my job easy.  After he left, I went to our current employee and showed him the drawings the interviewee gave me.  Bad news was, the drawings I was handed were from a job that our guy did.  This kid just changed the name on the drawing and tried passing it off as his own.  Then he had the nerve to point to the guy that actually did the drawing as a reference!

For the transcript, not needed for us after your first job.  Your rep stands on its own, and a lot brighter than old schoolwork.
5/14/2014 9:00:41 AM EDT
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Wouldn't fly for us.  You list an engineering company you worked for locally, and I can find out your rep within 2 phone calls to people I know.  I don't call references for two reasons, the first is as you mentioned, that number could be a friend, second, a previous employer can only verify that you did work for them, if you are eligible for rehire, and what salary you made.  If I want to know what kind of an engineer you are, I can get honest opinions by avoiding refs and HR.

I had one guy bring in drawings to show his work.  He handed me some pretty advanced assembly drawings, far more advanced than his experience should have been.  On the way out of the interview, he pointed out one our draftsman and made mention that he worked with him at XYZ company.  Perfect, makes my job easy.  After he left, I went to our current employee and showed him the drawings the interviewee gave me.  Bad news was, the drawings I was handed were from a job that our guy did.  This kid just changed the name on the drawing and tried passing it off as his own.  Then he had the nerve to point to the guy that actually did the drawing as a reference!

For the transcript, not needed for us after your first job.  Your rep stands on its own, and a lot brighter than old schoolwork.
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The threads about stolen valor got me thinking about posers/compulsive liars in general.  

Fresh out of school I remember companies requesting transcripts, but seems once you are in the industry for a bit they never check.  I'd bet fudging education and work experience is very prevalent.  Just wondered if anyone has any stories.


probably very easy to fuge work experience.  just have your references be some people you know , who can vouch for you.


Wouldn't fly for us.  You list an engineering company you worked for locally, and I can find out your rep within 2 phone calls to people I know.  I don't call references for two reasons, the first is as you mentioned, that number could be a friend, second, a previous employer can only verify that you did work for them, if you are eligible for rehire, and what salary you made.  If I want to know what kind of an engineer you are, I can get honest opinions by avoiding refs and HR.

I had one guy bring in drawings to show his work.  He handed me some pretty advanced assembly drawings, far more advanced than his experience should have been.  On the way out of the interview, he pointed out one our draftsman and made mention that he worked with him at XYZ company.  Perfect, makes my job easy.  After he left, I went to our current employee and showed him the drawings the interviewee gave me.  Bad news was, the drawings I was handed were from a job that our guy did.  This kid just changed the name on the drawing and tried passing it off as his own.  Then he had the nerve to point to the guy that actually did the drawing as a reference!

For the transcript, not needed for us after your first job.  Your rep stands on its own, and a lot brighter than old schoolwork.


same here the medical and veterinary field are very small communities. all it takes are a few phone calls to friends.
5/14/2014 9:07:58 AM EDT
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I think it's actually a federal crime to lie about college degrees. But not about military service. Sad.
5/14/2014 9:11:04 AM EDT
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a Trauma Hospital where I was a supervisor at hired a new Blood Banker and our management was told by her that she held a SBB ( Specialist in Blood Bank) title which is a very rare educational level to obtain in laboratory medicine, probably the most difficult out there. She came from a Blood Banking Center as a Technologist. the first week it was obvious that she was not a SBB and myself and another lead tech went to management several times regarding her abilities, position and credentials. we were blown off and disregarded and told to give her time to settle in.

one evening her 4th week there I came back from Dinner and noticed her in a frenzy and started paying attention to what she was doing and immediately noticed that she was prepping the wrong blood type Fresh Frozen Plasma for the patient that I prepped earlier in the afternoon. when I asked her about what she was doing she said OR had been needing FFP since I went to dinner. I went to the computer and found that she had checked out and they had given 4 of the wrong blood type FFP to the Patient.

I immediately followed the necessary protocol made the phones calls I needed to had her removed from the Blood Bank. the patient lived. thank God. SHe showed up for work the next day and I refused to let her take a station and sent her home. the following investigation revealed that upper management had never called the Board of Registry to run a credential check.

she was never seen again at the hospital.

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Holy shit...
5/14/2014 9:17:51 AM EDT
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Just imagine how many non military scan and Photoshop IDs just to get the discount at stores and motels.

Sad.

5/14/2014 9:18:34 AM EDT
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There was a story a while back about a supervisor at one of the nuclear power plants who got fired after it was discovered he lied about his credentials to get the job.   This was after he'd worked there 20 years and promoted all the way up to supervisor.  He apparently dropped out of school in the 8th grade or something.

5/14/2014 9:20:36 AM EDT
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Well lying about college degrees and certifications can put life's at danger depending on the career type.
5/14/2014 9:22:03 AM EDT
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I work at a .gov faculty and I can guarantee you that not only do we check we require OFFICIAL transcripts which means they get directly mailed from the educational institution to us
5/14/2014 9:23:07 AM EDT
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Man writes his own obituary, comes clean about not really having Ph.D.

By Elizabeth Chuck, Staff Writer, NBC News
Dr. Val Patterson, Ph.D., used his self-penned obituary as an opportunity to tell the world some surprising facts about himself, including: He didn't actually have a Ph.D., and yes, he's the guy who stole that company safe a few decades ago.

The Utah man, who died at age 59 of throat cancer on July 10, prepared in advance a light-hearted summary of his life that was published in The Salt Lake Tribune's obituary section on Sunday. In it, he described growing up in Salt Lake City, meeting the love of his life, traveling, and spending time with good friends.

But then, it was time to clear his conscience. "I have confessions and things I should now say," Patterson wrote.

"I really am NOT a PhD. What happened was that the day I went to pay off my college student loan at the [University of Utah], the girl working there put my receipt into the wrong stack, and two weeks later, a PhD diploma came in the mail. I didn't even graduate, I only had about 3 years of college credit," he wrote. "I never did even learn what the letters 'PhD' even stood for."




More at the link below:

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/07/18/12810440-man-writes-his-own-obituary-comes-clean-about-not-really-having-phd-stealing-safe?lite


5/14/2014 9:23:13 AM EDT
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I guess you were hired before this become SOP?



 
5/14/2014 9:27:18 AM EDT
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But the .gov doesn't have many standards for where those degrees came from...

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LOL....diploma mills, endorsed and the use spread by those in government.
5/14/2014 9:37:17 AM EDT
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My mother turned down a full scholarship to marry my Dad and have babies. She has a photographic memory and excels at math. It drives me crazy.

After 12 years of a horrible marriage she finally left him. She hadn't worked in 12 years and had two young kids to support. The first year she worked as a waitress at three different restaurants, we barely ever saw her.

She couldn't pay the rent (dad refused to pay child support). She took out student loans to pay rent. She actually signed up for an accounting class and bought the book but never went to a single class, she had to work.

She read the book on her own, made a fake resume with a degree from Bentley college, and talked her way into an entry level bookkeeping job. Within five years she owned her own Accounting firm specializing in going into companies with bad accounting practices and straightening them out. She's an overachieving perfectionist, I remember her spending weekends in the kitchen with stacks of accounting ledgers determined to find a missing 12 cents - I'm not joking, she's a perfectionist. To this day I still can't stand the sound of an adding machine.

She took her SATs when I was 25 without any prep and scored within 40 points of me (I don't have a photographic memory but did pretty well in school). She went to college for Court Reporting and graduated with a 4.0. She'd go out of her mind and threaten to quit if she got anything below 100% on her tests (I don't recall her getting anything below 96%). She can be unbearable.

Now she owns her own Court Reporting Agency specializing in medical testimony.

Yep, it can be done, and it can be done successfully.
5/14/2014 9:38:50 AM EDT
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They don't have to. Usually just claiming to be military enough. Nobody is going to actually check it 99% of the time.



 
5/14/2014 9:39:06 AM EDT
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5/14/2014 9:46:43 AM EDT
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I'm too scared to lie. They always put me through the wringer on everything anyway.
5/14/2014 10:20:56 AM EDT
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As a state employee I learned of cases where other employees faked credentials.  If they were supervisory level or higher nothing would happen to them, it would be to embarrassing for the people who hired them.
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Perhaps you should stop clenching your buttocks.
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a Trauma Hospital where I was a supervisor at hired a new Blood Banker and our management was told by her that she held a SBB ( Specialist in Blood Bank) title which is a very rare educational level to obtain in laboratory medicine, probably the most difficult out there. She came from a Blood Banking Center as a Technologist. the first week it was obvious that she was not a SBB and myself and another lead tech went to management several times regarding her abilities, position and credentials. we were blown off and disregarded and told to give her time to settle in.

one evening her 4th week there I came back from Dinner and noticed her in a frenzy and started paying attention to what she was doing and immediately noticed that she was prepping the wrong blood type Fresh Frozen Plasma for the patient that I prepped earlier in the afternoon. when I asked her about what she was doing she said OR had been needing FFP since I went to dinner. I went to the computer and found that she had checked out and they had given 4 of the wrong blood type FFP to the Patient.

I immediately followed the necessary protocol made the phones calls I needed to had her removed from the Blood Bank. the patient lived. thank God. SHe showed up for work the next day and I refused to let her take a station and sent her home. the following investigation revealed that upper management had never called the Board of Registry to run a credential check.

she was never seen again at the hospital.

CHECK CREDENTIALS...ALWAYS.


Holy shit...


I lost years off my life that night.
I've got 23 years of Trauma Blood Banking and Hematology under my belt. I've worked numerous traumas and CABG's going south at the same time. I've worked triage at the OKC Bomb Site but I have never been as stressed as I was that night sorting everything out.

the other Lead Tech and I knew immediately she did not possess the skills that a SBB should have. I work at a SBB level without ever going thru that program, I know what they are and how they work. Management totally blew us off in our complaints due to the fact that she had worked a long time at a regional blood and assumed she had the title and was having trouble with our "system" and not having worked in a Hospital environment.

I've made hundreds of thousands of phone calls to Drs in Surgery, at home, Pathologist.. you name it but the phone call I made to that CABG room was total silence on the speaker phone. you could feel the pucker factor of that Thoracic Surgeon and the Gas Passer simultaneously.

I got a paid 3 day vacation by the Pathologist for handling the situation.

always check credentials....use your spidy senses.
5/14/2014 5:43:08 PM EDT
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You can verify my state certifications in a few minutes online if you know my name. I've never understood why colleges don't do something similar.
5/14/2014 6:01:30 PM EDT
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All my certs are on a federal database accessible to all after a few key strokes.  Not really sure why more industries don't have similar setups.
5/14/2014 6:28:52 PM EDT
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I know a guy (accountant) who is a few classes short of a BS claimed to have one, was hired and makes $300k ish a year now. Finally disclosed when he hired on with a firm in the LA area, and they didn't care.
5/14/2014 6:37:19 PM EDT
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the Hospitals and Laboratory require all of our documentation for CLIA and other issues. I guess this Blood Bank Technologist showed up with her Generalist Diploma and College Diploma and Transcripts but no one checked out her SBB credentials.
5/14/2014 6:41:36 PM EDT
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I worked for a short time with Bryce Reed, the paramedic that was arrested for federal weapons/explosives charges after the West, Texas plant incident. It came out that his resume was embelished with degrees from colleges he'd never attended, certifications he'd never had, and work experince that he'd never actually done. I don't know all the exact details, but talking to some mutual acquaintances it basically sounded like the bulk of his life was just a tangle of lies, all the way down to supposedly surviving a helicopter crash that the rest of his "crew" was allegedly killed in
5/14/2014 6:43:04 PM EDT
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They want people to pay for the transcripts.  My university charges $7 for one.



 
5/14/2014 6:54:43 PM EDT
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Well lying about college degrees and certifications can put life's at danger depending on the career type.



This is pretty much the funniest thing I've read all day.
5/14/2014 7:02:13 PM EDT
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I lost years off my life that night.
I've got 23 years of Trauma Blood Banking and Hematology under my belt. I've worked numerous traumas and CABG's going south at the same time. I've worked triage at the OKC Bomb Site but I have never been as stressed as I was that night sorting everything out.

the other Lead Tech and I knew immediately she did not possess the skills that a SBB should have. I work at a SBB level without ever going thru that program, I know what they are and how they work. Management totally blew us off in our complaints due to the fact that she had worked a long time at a regional blood and assumed she had the title and was having trouble with our "system" and not having worked in a Hospital environment.

I've made hundreds of thousands of phone calls to Drs in Surgery, at home, Pathologist.. you name it but the phone call I made to that CABG room was total silence on the speaker phone. you could feel the pucker factor of that Thoracic Surgeon and the Gas Passer simultaneously.

I got a paid 3 day vacation by the Pathologist for handling the situation.

always check credentials....use your spidy senses.
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a Trauma Hospital where I was a supervisor at hired a new Blood Banker and our management was told by her that she held a SBB ( Specialist in Blood Bank) title which is a very rare educational level to obtain in laboratory medicine, probably the most difficult out there. She came from a Blood Banking Center as a Technologist. the first week it was obvious that she was not a SBB and myself and another lead tech went to management several times regarding her abilities, position and credentials. we were blown off and disregarded and told to give her time to settle in.

one evening her 4th week there I came back from Dinner and noticed her in a frenzy and started paying attention to what she was doing and immediately noticed that she was prepping the wrong blood type Fresh Frozen Plasma for the patient that I prepped earlier in the afternoon. when I asked her about what she was doing she said OR had been needing FFP since I went to dinner. I went to the computer and found that she had checked out and they had given 4 of the wrong blood type FFP to the Patient.

I immediately followed the necessary protocol made the phones calls I needed to had her removed from the Blood Bank. the patient lived. thank God. SHe showed up for work the next day and I refused to let her take a station and sent her home. the following investigation revealed that upper management had never called the Board of Registry to run a credential check.

she was never seen again at the hospital.

CHECK CREDENTIALS...ALWAYS.


Holy shit...


I lost years off my life that night.
I've got 23 years of Trauma Blood Banking and Hematology under my belt. I've worked numerous traumas and CABG's going south at the same time. I've worked triage at the OKC Bomb Site but I have never been as stressed as I was that night sorting everything out.

the other Lead Tech and I knew immediately she did not possess the skills that a SBB should have. I work at a SBB level without ever going thru that program, I know what they are and how they work. Management totally blew us off in our complaints due to the fact that she had worked a long time at a regional blood and assumed she had the title and was having trouble with our "system" and not having worked in a Hospital environment.

I've made hundreds of thousands of phone calls to Drs in Surgery, at home, Pathologist.. you name it but the phone call I made to that CABG room was total silence on the speaker phone. you could feel the pucker factor of that Thoracic Surgeon and the Gas Passer simultaneously.

I got a paid 3 day vacation by the Pathologist for handling the situation.

always check credentials....use your spidy senses.


Please tell, in medical terms, what the solution is to the problem of "Just put the wrong kinda blood in"?

That really strikes me as pretty unfixable. I'm curious how you would even start to unfuck it.
5/14/2014 7:03:10 PM EDT
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The threads about stolen valor got me thinking about posers/compulsive liars in general.  

Fresh out of school I remember companies requesting transcripts, but seems once you are in the industry for a bit they never check.  I'd bet fudging education and work experience is very prevalent.  Just wondered if anyone has any stories.


probably very easy to fuge work experience.  just have your references be some people you know , who can vouch for you.


I just went through the employment process for one of the "big 4" health insurance companies out there.  Everything was verified, twice, by two different background check companies.  Jobs were verified against tax filings, and credit reports.  School transcripts pulled.  I had two non-compete clauses checked by legal, and a conflict of interest check was done as well.  I have a copy of my 48 page background as seen by my prospective employer.  They verified EVERYTHING I had on my resume.  Also did criminal checks on me for every city, county and state I have lived in for the past 10y.  Only two traffic tickets popped up.

If you are applying to be a stock boy, or a tech support person, yea, you can probably pull the wool over someone's eyes.  Once you move up, don't count on it.  

For reference, I'm a senior consultant for hospital business offices.
5/14/2014 7:09:35 PM EDT
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I had an officer I supervised in DC get a job at one of the big hospitals there. They never called me for a reference, lol. I don't think anyone she gave them was called. I mean she's trustworthy, I know her and all that, have no doubt in her ability to handle the job, it's just crazy to me they apparently never called any reference.

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Also, I have a friend trying to get into the DOC around here. I was a candidate too, exceeded required experience and all but was denied for whatever reason. I think before they even called and did reference checks on me. However, said friend used me AND a convicted felon as references and they called the felon but never called me, despite the fact I have a clean record (1 ticket, 1 misdemeanor - underage consumption), and a few years experience working on various forms of security from corporate to health care to industrial. Don't get it.
5/14/2014 7:44:46 PM EDT
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massive IV fluid intake and urine output. the lysed Red Blood Cells will clog up the kidneys with hemaglobin so you have to FLUSH them out. dialysis in some cases. this cases was bad because the patient got 2000 ML of FFP that was the wrong type.

I've only seen 3 cases of actual transfusions of the wrong type of blood type. a human tolerates a pint of RBC's of the wrong type fairly well. the text books will tell you that the patient will have a feeling of impending doom immediately upon the wrong type RBC's being infused and all be damned if those 2 other patients didn't tell me they thought they were going to die immediately when the RBC"s were started. the 2nd man ripped the IV out in a panic. one guy got a full unit of the wrong type. the ER nurse who banded him didn't follow protocol  and switched up patient Blood Bank ID's and he spike da bad fever and rash and when I worked up the reaction, low and behold the new sample wasn't the same type as the original. 4 days later he was still pissing urine that looked like Dr. Pepper. he was pretty cool about it, I visited him everyday for the rest of his stay. one thing I have found is that normally it is not Blood Banking Personnel who are in the wrong. most of the errors are outside of the lab in the ID system of error.

we change peoples Types all the time in surgeries and trauma's if things get bad and we start running out of Blood Typed Units. I've always worked at trauma centers and thought that we should mix O or A in 55 gallon drums and hook lines into it like a Jiffy Lube.

they still joke about me screaming at her telling her to get out of my Blood Bank. she left a bunch of personal stuff at her work station and I burned it all out in the Nun Garden in a mojo cleansing ceremony when I got back from my 3 day fishing trip. I even threatened to sacrifice a chicken in the blood bank.
5/14/2014 9:33:11 PM EDT
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I was working at a place that had been open for maybe 5 years.  I had worked there for about 10, including time as a caretaker and construction.

I got a reference check - some guy claimed to have worked there 8 years ago, doing my job.

"so is it possible there was another guy there at the same time?"  No, there were 5 guys on site, I knew all of them, and that was MY job.  There were no others.
5/14/2014 9:38:24 PM EDT
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a Trauma Hospital where I was a supervisor at hired a new Blood Banker and our management was told by her that she held a SBB ( Specialist in Blood Bank) title which is a very rare educational level to obtain in laboratory medicine, probably the most difficult out there. She came from a Blood Banking Center as a Technologist. the first week it was obvious that she was not a SBB and myself and another lead tech went to management several times regarding her abilities, position and credentials. we were blown off and disregarded and told to give her time to settle in.

one evening her 4th week there I came back from Dinner and noticed her in a frenzy and started paying attention to what she was doing and immediately noticed that she was prepping the wrong blood type Fresh Frozen Plasma for the patient that I prepped earlier in the afternoon. when I asked her about what she was doing she said OR had been needing FFP since I went to dinner. I went to the computer and found that she had checked out and they had given 4 of the wrong blood type FFP to the Patient.

I immediately followed the necessary protocol made the phones calls I needed to had her removed from the Blood Bank. the patient lived. thank God. SHe showed up for work the next day and I refused to let her take a station and sent her home. the following investigation revealed that upper management had never called the Board of Registry to run a credential check.

she was never seen again at the hospital.

CHECK CREDENTIALS...ALWAYS.


Holy shit...


That should be criminal charges.
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massive IV fluid intake and urine output. the lysed Red Blood Cells will clog up the kidneys with hemaglobin so you have to FLUSH them out. dialysis in some cases. this cases was bad because the patient got 2000 ML of FFP that was the wrong type.

I've only seen 3 cases of actual transfusions of the wrong type of blood type. a human tolerates a pint of RBC's of the wrong type fairly well. the text books will tell you that the patient will have a feeling of impending doom immediately upon the wrong type RBC's being infused and all be damned if those 2 other patients didn't tell me they thought they were going to die immediately when the RBC"s were started. the 2nd man ripped the IV out in a panic. one guy got a full unit of the wrong type. the ER nurse who banded him didn't follow protocol  and switched up patient Blood Bank ID's and he spike da bad fever and rash and when I worked up the reaction, low and behold the new sample wasn't the same type as the original. 4 days later he was still pissing urine that looked like Dr. Pepper. he was pretty cool about it, I visited him everyday for the rest of his stay. one thing I have found is that normally it is not Blood Banking Personnel who are in the wrong. most of the errors are outside of the lab in the ID system of error.

we change peoples Types all the time in surgeries and trauma's if things get bad and we start running out of Blood Typed Units. I've always worked at trauma centers and thought that we should mix O or A in 55 gallon drums and hook lines into it like a Jiffy Lube.

they still joke about me screaming at her telling her to get out of my Blood Bank. she left a bunch of personal stuff at her work station and I burned it all out in the Nun Garden in a mojo cleansing ceremony when I got back from my 3 day fishing trip. I even threatened to sacrifice a chicken in the blood bank.
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One reason I love being AB POS.  
5/14/2014 10:22:22 PM EDT
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I just went through the employment process for one of the "big 4" health insurance companies out there.  Everything was verified, twice, by two different background check companies.  Jobs were verified against tax filings, and credit reports.  School transcripts pulled.  I had two non-compete clauses checked by legal, and a conflict of interest check was done as well.  I have a copy of my 48 page background as seen by my prospective employer.  They verified EVERYTHING I had on my resume.  Also did criminal checks on me for every city, county and state I have lived in for the past 10y.  Only two traffic tickets popped up.

If you are applying to be a stock boy, or a tech support person, yea, you can probably pull the wool over someone's eyes.  Once you move up, don't count on it.  

For reference, I'm a senior consultant for hospital business offices.
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The threads about stolen valor got me thinking about posers/compulsive liars in general.  

Fresh out of school I remember companies requesting transcripts, but seems once you are in the industry for a bit they never check.  I'd bet fudging education and work experience is very prevalent.  Just wondered if anyone has any stories.


probably very easy to fuge work experience.  just have your references be some people you know , who can vouch for you.


I just went through the employment process for one of the "big 4" health insurance companies out there.  Everything was verified, twice, by two different background check companies.  Jobs were verified against tax filings, and credit reports.  School transcripts pulled.  I had two non-compete clauses checked by legal, and a conflict of interest check was done as well.  I have a copy of my 48 page background as seen by my prospective employer.  They verified EVERYTHING I had on my resume.  Also did criminal checks on me for every city, county and state I have lived in for the past 10y.  Only two traffic tickets popped up.

If you are applying to be a stock boy, or a tech support person, yea, you can probably pull the wool over someone's eyes.  Once you move up, don't count on it.  

For reference, I'm a senior consultant for hospital business offices.


I went through similar as a consultant for two of the "Blues" recently, too. I remember that moment when I looked at the results and saw where they even checked some shit with the State Department.
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I worked for a short time with Bryce Reed, the paramedic that was arrested for federal weapons/explosives charges after the West, Texas plant incident. It came out that his resume was embelished with degrees from colleges he'd never attended, certifications he'd never had, and work experince that he'd never actually done. I don't know all the exact details, but talking to some mutual acquaintances it basically sounded like the bulk of his life was just a tangle of lies, all the way down to supposedly surviving a helicopter crash that the rest of his "crew" was allegedly killed in
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I remember looking up his linkedin account (probably long since deleted) right after it happened, and it was extremely suspicious looking. I work in the same field, and a large majority of it look fabricated and/or embellished.

 
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They want people to pay for the transcripts.  My university charges $7 for one.

 
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You can verify my state certifications in a few minutes online if you know my name. I've never understood why colleges don't do something similar.


They want people to pay for the transcripts.  My university charges $7 for one.

 
There needs to be a national database with degrees listed/date graduated that employers can look up. I just looked up my state fire/EMS certs, my wife's teaching certs, and my dad's pilot licenses in less than 10 min online.

 
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I'm retired now, but we have terminated people for this. Usually it's because they talked too much or we would never have had cause to do "research".
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But the .gov doesn't have many standards for where those degrees came from...

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I work at a .gov faculty and I can guarantee you that not only do we check we require OFFICIAL transcripts which means they get directly mailed from the educational institution to us

But the .gov doesn't have many standards for where those degrees came from...

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Government doesn't really care about educational level, they want experience.  If you want a decent paying middle-class job based solely on education, you better have a PhD.  If, on the other hand, you have real world experience related to the job, a high school diploma works just fine.
5/15/2014 5:41:50 AM EDT
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It happens to me all the time.  Within 30 seconds it is painfully obvious.  Welcome to $7.50 an hour instead of $13.  Still want the job?
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After all, I DID invent the interwebz you know...and Love Story was about me and Tipper even though she's still alive.




...and I was named after Sir Edmund Hilary, even though I was born several years before he reached the north pole.


...and my parents fornicated after meeting at Selma, AL and conceived me...but they had to travel back in time to do it since I was born several years before the march in Selma.



5/15/2014 6:07:22 AM EDT
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They hired a new Creative director where  I work a few years ago.  She lasted about a week.  She could not design a mud puddle if it was raining... I never saw any of her submitted samples when she was going through the interview process but I would have to guess that anything she gave us was actually done by someone else.  
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My first 'real' job out of college was working for a large bank HQ operations department.  Did it for four years, then moved out of state, went to work for branch operations at Blockbuster Entertainment's world headquarters in Florida, building/designing interior store layouts and testing prototype marketing and sales programs.  Did that for five years as well, left in 96 and have worked in other construction fields since then.

Three years ago I applied for a welding program in the Pipefitters Union.  Went to a half-dozen interviews.  Last interview a Union guy pulls out my resume.  The bank I worked for was absorbed by BoA in 1993, the HQ is now a shopping mall, BoA has no records of the previous bank's employees, I'd been gone 3 years when BoA bought them out.  Blockbuster had changed hands a couple of times after moving out of Florida, current corporate HQ had no records prior to the most recent restructure when they moved out of Texas.  No records prior to 2009.

So the union schmoe starts yelling at me, accusing me of 'making up' my work history.  I brought in my tax files ( every W2 since 1985 including my Army pay statements) and showed him my W2's from Standard Federal and Blockbuster Entertainment.  Didn't matter.  Guy said he wasn't born yesterday and if he couldn't reach someone at a company to verify my employment then I must be lying.

Fuck the union, they had Obama campaign signs stacked all over the union hall anyway.
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Very common in the IT world.  Like the stolen valor cases they tend to go for the gusto.



Started a new network job and the old guy leaving was there to show me around.  Claimed to be a CCIE which is one of the most valued IT certifications.  He then told me the network was setup flat because you couldn't trust routing.  
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Very common in the IT world.  Like the stolen valor cases they tend to go for the gusto.

Started a new network job and the old guy leaving was there to show me around.  Claimed to be a CCIE which is one of the most valued IT certifications.  He then told me the network was setup flat because you couldn't trust routing.  
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Very common in the IT world.  Like the stolen valor cases they tend to go for the gusto.

Started a new network job and the old guy leaving was there to show me around.  Claimed to be a CCIE which is one of the most valued IT certifications.  He then told me the network was setup flat because you couldn't trust routing.  



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