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12/28/2001 6:23:35 AM EDT
I went to Vegas with my wife to visit with her parents.  While I was there my Father in Law took me to the Gun Store and rented me a MP5.  It was the coolest!  And I thought I didnt want a full auto.  Definately the smoothest firing gun I have used.
12/28/2001 6:27:11 AM EDT
[#1]
Yep, they are a lot of fun. No doubts, that HK can make some quality stuff.
12/28/2001 7:19:51 AM EDT
[#2]
Now I just need to figure out how I'm gonna get 3K to buy one :)
12/28/2001 7:28:21 AM EDT
[#3]
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Now I just need to figure out how I'm gonna get 3K to buy one :)
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$3K? If you tell me where they are selling for $3K I'll buy 5 of them! You are looking at a minimum of seven.
12/28/2001 7:32:44 AM EDT
[#4]
Serious!!!  Thats nuts!  I thought they were 3 Grand :(
12/28/2001 7:37:05 AM EDT
[#5]
I thought they were up to 10K by now.
12/28/2001 7:38:52 AM EDT
[#6]
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Serious!!!  Thats nuts!  I thought they were 3 Grand :(
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Post dealer samples are around $1200 - $1800 but you must be both an FFL/SOT and have the Demo letter from your local law enforcement agency.

A transeferable MP5, meaning that it is transferable to a civilian, will cost you anywhere from $7000 to $11000.  The registered receiver MP5 is most desirable since you don't have to fiddle with the trigger group to get the sear to time properly.    If you go with the sear route, you can get a transferable auto-sear for $3500 - $5000.  But then you'll have to find an HK 94 to convert.
12/28/2001 7:39:52 AM EDT
[#7]
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Serious!!!  Thats nuts!  I thought they were 3 Grand :(
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The semi versions are now going for around $3K & up. Full autos are approaching $10K.
12/28/2001 7:43:12 AM EDT
[#8]
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I thought they were up to 10K by now.
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Some of them are, that's why I said the minimum is $7K. You still see a "deal" out there every once in a while.

Here is one for sale on Bowers board right now for $8,200. [url]http://subguns.biggerhammer.net/nfaad.cgi?read=65924[/url]

or another in a different config. with a few extras for $9K, not including the suppressor. [url]http://subguns.biggerhammer.net/nfaad.cgi?read=66095[/url]
12/28/2001 7:44:47 AM EDT
[#9]
Well I guess that project is a bit out of my range.  Guess I'll go with the .50 cal next after all.
12/28/2001 7:50:21 AM EDT
[#10]
Well, I think you can still get some other full auto "bargins!"  for your price range. I believe Vektor sells their FA Uzis for around 3K. The FA Uzi I shot was also a fine shooter, and I thought more controllable in FA fire than the MP5. Of course, it had a full wood stock and was heavier. Uzi mags are also a hell of a lot cheaper than  9mm HK mags.

If NY were to miraculously go Class 3, I would consider ringing up Vektor...
12/28/2001 7:54:51 AM EDT
[#11]
Yep, the Vectors are nice. That is what I'm getting myself for Christmas. The price ranges from around $2700-3200 for a NIB UZI and that price is sure to double within a couple of years after Vector runs out.

There are quite a few buzz guns you can get in the $3K range, its just that an MP5 isn't one of them.
12/28/2001 11:01:13 AM EDT
[#12]
heres another vote for the Vecktor UZI

its a damn nice gun. i dont personly own one but a friend of ourse does and its a sweet shooter. [uzi]

12/28/2001 11:33:41 AM EDT
[#13]
Wecome to the world of full-auto!  Check out this video of me hosing down a truck's windshield with my MP5 using a 100 round Beta C magazine.

[url]http://www.full-auto.com/video/mp5.mpeg[/url]
12/28/2001 12:29:39 PM EDT
[#14]
For anyone in South Florida, the Delray Shooting Center will rent you a full auto MP5 and all the 9mm you care to buy.

Incredibly smooth firing weapon. I fell in love with it, the same sort of love that I have for a 2002 911 Turbo.....probably will never own either.

However, I have been thinking about getting dressed up like I mean business and going in to a Porsche dealer for a test drive. Hope the salesman is wearing a pair of Depends for that ride!
12/28/2001 1:20:27 PM EDT
[#15]
If you want to shoot an HK UMP (45cal) go to Classic Pistol right outside of Philly. Cranking off a full mag of 45's gets EVERYONE's attention.
12/28/2001 1:24:24 PM EDT
[#16]
There's always the poor man's full-auto: bump fire.

The M1 Garand video for those that missed it the first time.
[url]http://www.petenelson.com/video/M1 Garand Bump Fire.mpg[/url]
12/28/2001 1:33:36 PM EDT
[#17]
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Serious!!!  Thats nuts!  I thought they were 3 Grand :(
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you must be referring to the semi-auto HK's. they go up every year.


Libsd
12/28/2001 1:36:52 PM EDT
[#18]
GOOD GOD!!!! Great video William_Gunn. I've never seen a smoother auto. Awesome gun.

[:O]
12/28/2001 1:44:07 PM EDT
[#19]
Add about $1.5-2.0K to your 3K and get an M16 RR or DIAS for your AR15.

An 9MM SMG will be just one of your many options. 9MM conversion goes from $600 to $1,200 depending if you want Colt or not and suppressed or not.

Mine shoots a smoothly as an MP5, plus you will be familiar with the platform. Lots of modifications to make the M16/9 close to the MP5. Also, you get to know your gun.

MP5 is the top dog, but expensive, not near as versatile as the M16, and very mysterious to work on.

A post over on subguns made an interesting point: "Instead of spending $8,000 of a top-line subgun, spend $4,000 on the gun, $2,000 on ammo, and $2,000 on tactical lessons. You'll be alot better off." Could have a point.

Just my $.02.
12/28/2001 1:48:58 PM EDT
[#20]
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MP5 is the top dog, but expensive, not near as versatile as the M16, and very mysterious to work on.

Just my $.02.
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Exactly. I would hate to have to work on an MP5. The guts look like something that you should find in a swiss watch.
12/28/2001 1:54:39 PM EDT
[#21]
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MP5 is the top dog, but expensive, not near as versatile as the M16, and very mysterious to work on.

Just my $.02.
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Exactly. I would hate to have to work on an MP5. The guts look like something that you should find in a swiss watch.
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Yea, if your MP5 does break, the guys that fix them are so backed-up that you may not get it back on-line for months.

With the M16/9. Trouble-shoot, order parts, and replace. All kinds of people to ask questions of, both here, subguns.com, and others.
12/28/2001 2:01:23 PM EDT
[#22]
Quoted: Great video William_Gunn. I've never seen a smoother auto. Awesome gun.

[:O]
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Yeah, lucky mudda. [:D] Doesn't get much sweeter....
12/28/2001 2:07:31 PM EDT
[#23]
Since when have MP5s been full-auto?!
12/28/2001 2:19:04 PM EDT
[#24]
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Since when have MP5s been full-auto?!
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You have to buy the conversion kit from me to make it full auto. I'm the only person who sells them. They are $99.99.

Please email me for details.[:)]
12/28/2001 3:20:51 PM EDT
[#25]
That video of the truck is sweet!
12/28/2001 4:36:45 PM EDT
[#26]
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Since when have MP5s been full-auto?!
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MP5's have always been select-fire.  HK94 / SP89 re-stamps have been available semi and select.