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Posted: 8/3/2021 10:23:34 AM EDT
[#1]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks. I’ve been looking for something that costs more than a top-tier A.R. 15, but that is also inferior in every objective way to an entry-level A.R. 15. 
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Posted: 8/3/2021 10:23:41 AM EDT
[#2]
I'm sure someone will make a 922r parts kit so that enough domestic parts will be available to convert it to a legally configured G36ish rifle.
However, as others have pointed out it will be insanely expensive and yet there will be no shortage of HK fans who will do it. |
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Posted: 8/3/2021 10:24:38 AM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not really any better or worse than any infantry rifle. I would be surprised to see an M4 make it through 9 x 100rd magdumps back to back.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTbTyFloelcIt's funny, this same test was touted back around 2004 ish. I've seen a G36C owned by an old member here (larryg36) that had melted bad enough its barrel couldnt be removed. It ran, but if it got that hot I'm sure its accuracy was absolute shit... though back then most of us weren't shooting his mgs for accuracy tho lol Also, consider the timing and how few remaining buyers of the g36 are out there... |
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Posted: 8/3/2021 10:25:17 AM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm sure someone will make a 922r parts kit so that enough domestic parts will be available to convert it to a legally configured G36ish rifle. However, as others have pointed out it will be insanely expensive and yet there will be no shortage of HK fans who will do it. Tommy Built Tactical. |
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Posted: 8/3/2021 10:25:53 AM EDT
[#5]
Barrel could be threaded and the thumbhole stock isn't terrible, but the way they approached the low-cap magazine is such a horror show. Totally kills it for me. I won't buy a semi-auto rifle with an artificially restricted capacity like that.
I suppose the SL8-6 already has German gov export approval and ATF import approval so it's less of a risk to bring it back. That said, when HK sent out that long gun survey last year, I'm sure no one wanted the cluster that the SL8 is. Hopefully it's a harbinger of things to come, and we get a US/German combo SL8-Awesome in the future that's a G36 clone. I doubt it, but one can hope. |
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Posted: 8/3/2021 10:27:10 AM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Thats ..... actually not as bad as I expected But its HK and probably very limited availability so expect to pay $2k or more street price Yeah I was expecting well north of $2,000 before I saw the price on HK's website. I just checked GB and people are already bidding them over MSRP  I'll wait until the regular dealers have them in stock for under MSRP. |
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Posted: 8/3/2021 10:28:14 AM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Canada doesn't have the same import laws as we do. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Meh. They sell the real deal to places like Canada but here they send that mess That's just the excuse HK likes to parrot in order to give the most minimal effort into actually bringing in something worth while. Every importer from century arms to FN has figured out how to bring in the desired items. lol 
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Posted: 8/3/2021 10:28:39 AM EDT
[#8]
A “new” product launch for something that literally nobody asked for...sweet!
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Posted: 8/3/2021 10:32:21 AM EDT
[#9]
Sold out online but street prices are looking good. Looks like Battlehawk was listing them for $1,300
https://gun.deals/search/apachesolr_search/642230262966 |
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Posted: 8/3/2021 10:33:50 AM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How can anybody act like they don't want one of those with a |
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Posted: 8/3/2021 10:35:34 AM EDT
[#11]
Now I think it begs the question...
Why the fuck is a gucci AR-18 platform gun from HK of all people at $1,699 while the 9mm subgun from the 60s has an MSRP over $2,000. Oh I forgot... it's HK
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Posted: 8/3/2021 10:37:43 AM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Canada doesn't have the same import laws as we do. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Meh. They sell the real deal to places like Canada but here they send that mess |
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Posted: 8/3/2021 10:39:44 AM EDT
[#13]
Obvi it’s not a real 36, but I’ve always thought the SL8 was a neat looking rifle, especially for having to be so feature-neutered.
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Posted: 8/3/2021 10:46:15 AM EDT
[#14]
Crazy considering I sold a couple on GB last year and both went north of $4000. Just took a stroll through GB and looks like a 36 clone is back on the menu.
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Posted: 8/3/2021 10:54:15 AM EDT
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How about they stop introducing irrelevant shit that could have been made during the AWB, and focus on producing enough SP5s to meet demand? I swear, it's like the marketing guys at Colt and HK are constantly trying to one up each other on who can do the stupidest shit.
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Posted: 8/3/2021 11:00:27 AM EDT
[#16]
I rather PTR start making semi G41's.
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Posted: 8/3/2021 11:00:44 AM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Now I think it begs the question... Why the fuck is a gucci AR-18 platform gun from HK of all people at $1,699 while the 9mm subgun from the 60s has an MSRP over $2,000. Oh I forgot... it's HK People actually want the 9mm subgun still. |
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Posted: 8/3/2021 11:03:01 AM EDT
[#18]
The absolute worst thing for H&K's reputation would be the widespread proliferation of their guns among the US shooting market.
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Posted: 8/3/2021 11:09:54 AM EDT
[#19]
I would buy the fuck out of a G36 or variant for $1700.
But not a AWB era SL8 that I have to spend another grand or two to make not suck. Like, you do the SP5 and SP5K but can't sell a decent G36? |
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Posted: 8/3/2021 11:12:47 AM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The absolute worst thing for H&K's reputation would be the widespread proliferation of their guns among the US shooting market. Lmao, so true. Average weapons that are over romanticized by films |
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Posted: 8/3/2021 11:29:34 AM EDT
[#21]
I clicked looking for a Glock style .45 compact
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Posted: 8/3/2021 11:31:13 AM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: But people always say it's the German export laws... doesn't that argument fail now? "In November 2013, Heckler & Koch applied for permission from the German Government to sell a new civilian-legal version of the G36. Called the HK243 in Europe and the HK293 in America, it is more similar to the G36 assault rifle than previous civilian models. The main difference is the bolt is redesigned to not allow a conversion to fully automatic fire. It has quad picatinny rails and accepts STANAG magazines. Four different barrel lengths from 230 mm (9.1 in) to 480 mm (19 in) and four stock models (short fixed, long fixed and two adjustable) will be offered.[39] In November 2020, G36 rifles became available for sale on the civilian market in Canada. They were sold with match grade barrels by Lothar Walther for CAD $5,999, or with an H&K barrel for CAD $7,998.[40][4" https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heckler_%26_Koch_G36 https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2013/11/25/heckler-koch-hk243-hk293-civilian-g36/ |
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Posted: 8/3/2021 11:35:39 AM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/321106/3D95CDE7-EA7E-452A-914A-86C024E1D071_png-2038119.JPG I’m patiently waiting for the release of this MFer Still have no idea Wtf they were thinking with their own piss-poor dickmod design... On what amounts to a knock-off ACR with a G36 piston. 
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Posted: 8/3/2021 11:40:12 AM EDT
[#24]
I'll buy one.
If it's dumb and I hate it I'll just flip it when it inevitably triples in price. |
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Posted: 8/3/2021 11:42:34 AM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/321106/3D95CDE7-EA7E-452A-914A-86C024E1D071_png-2038119.JPG I'm patiently waiting for the release of this MFer looks sexy but guess not for civie |
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Posted: 8/3/2021 11:47:55 AM EDT
[#26]
Still got my SL8/G36 conversion from ten years ago. It was just one of those "must have" guns back then
 . Need to SBR it though.
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Posted: 8/3/2021 12:01:11 PM EDT
[#27]
I had a early SL8. Trigger sucked but the thing was a tack driver. Got some seriously good groups out of it.
Bolt hold open stopped working so HK sent a redesigned catch that engaged the receiver with more surface area. It ended up cracking the plastic and it stopped holding bolt open again. HK said tough luck and wouldn't fix it. Sold it to some dude that was converting it to a G36 so he didn't care about the crack. |
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Posted: 8/3/2021 12:07:01 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Sold out online but street prices are looking good. Looks like Battlehawk was listing them for $1,300 https://gun.deals/search/apachesolr_search/642230262966 All sold out everywhere. HK Fan dudes strikes again 
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Posted: 8/3/2021 12:09:52 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/321106/3D95CDE7-EA7E-452A-914A-86C024E1D071_png-2038119.JPG I’m patiently waiting for the release of this MFer Came here to post this. 
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Posted: 8/3/2021 12:12:32 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not really any better or worse than any infantry rifle. I would be surprised to see an M4 make it through 9 x 100rd magdumps back to back. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTbTyFloelcQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Does it still melt under rapid fire? Not really any better or worse than any infantry rifle. I would be surprised to see an M4 make it through 9 x 100rd magdumps back to back. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTbTyFloelcThere’s a few videos on youtube regarding destructive testing by magdumping an M4 and M4A1 to failure. 500-some rounds for the M4 to blow out the barrel, and 900-some for the M4A1 to melt the gas tube.  M4 vs. M4a1 carbine; destructive testing The G36’s problem is that after 100~150 rounds, you end up chasing your zero due to the barrel trunion heating up and shifting your barrel. Then it shifts again as it cools down. HK was supposed to fix that years ago, but the german army never wanted to pay for it, IIRC. |
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Posted: 8/3/2021 12:13:03 PM EDT
[#31]
10 round mag? HK you guys still hate us
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Posted: 8/3/2021 12:21:13 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Hooray! A grey rifle with a single stack mag well that costs thousands to buy and thousands more to unfuck.  |
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Posted: 8/3/2021 2:12:07 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Is that magazine backwards? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'm holding out till HK sells this: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/29155/MP5_Backwards_Mag-602915.png Is that magazine backwards? Sure looks like it. |
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Posted: 8/3/2021 2:14:44 PM EDT
[#34]
I owned an SL8 for a while in the 2000s.
Its a nice shooter but the single stack mag made me sell it on consignment. Also the polymer lower was developing a nice crack. Nice idea but with the single stack mag its not for me. Now if they did a semiauto faithful clone of the G36 double stack mag, pistol grip and all, with no PC nonsense, I would be on board. They could produce it in their GA plant to avoid 922r. But H&K won't do that, because we suck and they hate us. |
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Posted: 8/3/2021 2:20:40 PM EDT
[#35]
We get the 243,they’re 1900€.
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Posted: 8/3/2021 2:23:39 PM EDT
[#36]
This when they should be redesigning the P7M8 line. Idiots.
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Posted: 8/3/2021 2:27:03 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The bullets are loaded backwards in the mag...so now they are forward. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Is that magazine backwards? |
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Posted: 8/3/2021 2:27:46 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/321106/3D95CDE7-EA7E-452A-914A-86C024E1D071_png-2038119.JPG I’m patiently waiting for the release of this MFer Hmmm I wonder if Sword Intl. hand guards tried to copy that abortion. With that undercut slanted as such, if you rest it on a barrier, your barrel is on that same barrier. Well. |
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Posted: 8/3/2021 2:29:12 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/321106/3D95CDE7-EA7E-452A-914A-86C024E1D071_png-2038119.JPG I’m patiently waiting for the release of this MFer Yes seriously! Though we both know it will never happen. 
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Posted: 8/3/2021 2:31:55 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The absolute worst thing for H&K's reputation would be the widespread proliferation of their guns among the US shooting market. For the life of me I don’t understand why they wouldn’t start cranking out SP5s, HK91s & 93s at max capacity using their US plant. They’d sell the shit out of them, just need like one guy on the board of HK to be like... 
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Posted: 8/3/2021 2:33:10 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Of the featureless guns though the SL8 is the coolest Die hards will use the receiver and make a G36 out of it This is a win win across the board Unfortunately in CA it’s not featureless. Thumbhole stocks are way to assaulty for Californians to be trusted with. Now if you buy a real G36 stock on it and bolted some kydex behind the pistol grip, that would be a safe, non-assaulty gun thing. |
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Posted: 8/3/2021 2:42:17 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/321106/3D95CDE7-EA7E-452A-914A-86C024E1D071_png-2038119.JPG I'm patiently waiting for the release of this MFer  |
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Posted: 8/3/2021 2:48:08 PM EDT
[#43]
I always wanted a SL6/7
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Posted: 8/3/2021 2:50:24 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: For the life of me I don't understand why they wouldn't start cranking out SP5s, HK91s & 93s at max capacity using their US plant. They'd sell the shit out of them, just need like one guy on the board of HK to be like... https://media1.giphy.com/media/l3V0FBxSzWp6O0Lf2/200.gif |
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Posted: 8/3/2021 6:26:50 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryI don't normally cuss like that, but- YES! |
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Posted: 8/4/2021 1:11:13 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We get the 243,they’re 1900€. It's available here as well. Doesn't seem very popular though, I hardly ever see them at the range. |
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Posted: 8/10/2021 3:58:31 PM EDT
[#47]
They are already hitting dealers, that's surprising.
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Posted: 8/10/2021 4:01:30 PM EDT
[#48]
I am not rejoicing. I wished they just built the G36 clone in the US instead.
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Posted: 8/10/2021 4:13:50 PM EDT
[#49]
Doesn't the G36 house the barrel/extension in a plastic receiver?
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Posted: 8/10/2021 5:27:08 PM EDT
[#50]
Psssh. How about giving us the MP7?
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