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10/8/2008 2:25:48 PM EDT
Is there any way to scan a car to see if a GPS tracking is attached? I am not talking about a jammer but a device that can point to where a GPS transmitter is. Or will the tinfoil on my head be good enough?
10/8/2008 2:42:24 PM EDT
[#1]
You could listen for the local oscillator of the receiver, don't know off the top of my head what LO freqs are used in common GPS products.  It wouldn't definitively identify the presence of a GPS receiver as other products would create false positives, and you'd have to be in a RF quiet environment and be at very close range to the device.
10/8/2008 2:44:53 PM EDT
[#2]
here ya go  ..


www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.3623


edit:

opps you said no jammers.. RIF
10/8/2008 2:46:37 PM EDT
[#3]
i will make up for it by this..  

www.usaspyshop.com/spy-detector-p-1064.html


10/8/2008 2:58:40 PM EDT
[#4]
  People do this stuff for a living...call this place and  schedule a check.


Communication Security, Inc.
2 Shadow Lane
Bay City, TX 77414

(979) 244-4920 Telephone
10/8/2008 3:09:00 PM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
Is there any way to scan a car to see if a GPS tracking is attached? I am not talking about a jammer but a device that can point to where a GPS transmitter is. Or will the tinfoil on my head be good enough?


A logger will not register at all... it only transmits when someone activates it.

A live track will not be transmitting either... it waits for movement.

So, you can get your scanner, hang on to the car while wearing rollerskates, and let your buddy drive down the road. Be careful as you go around the car while it is in motion looking for a signal

Shiny side out works best.
10/8/2008 3:15:21 PM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Is there any way to scan a car to see if a GPS tracking is attached? I am not talking about a jammer but a device that can point to where a GPS transmitter is. Or will the tinfoil on my head be good enough?


A logger will not register at all... it only transmits when someone activates it.

A live track will not be transmitting either... it waits for movement.

So, you can get your scanner, hang on to the car while wearing rollerskates, and let your buddy drive down the road. Be careful as you go around the car while it is in motion looking for a signal

Shiny side out works best.


  A logger will register if a tech utilizes a non-linear junction detector.  It can locate any device with superconductors inside,
powered or not.
10/8/2008 3:19:37 PM EDT
[#7]
Never could get one to register on any detector......

Maybe we need to test out a couple new detectors then
10/8/2008 3:32:50 PM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
Never could get one to register on any detector......

Maybe we need to test out a couple new detectors then


  Ask this guy:



The Press | Friday, 07 September 2007
Man finds police tracking devices in cars

A police operation to covertly follow a man came to an abrupt halt when the man found tracking devices planted in his car, ripped them out, and listed them for sale on Trade Me.

Ralph Williams, of Cromwell, said he found the devices last week in his daughter's car, which he uses, and in his flatmate's car, when the cars were returned by police after being seized and searched.

Police have neither confirmed nor denied they placed the devices. But Mr Williams said a mobile phone Sim card in one of the devices appeared to transmit messages to the mobile phone of Detective Sergeant Derek Shaw, of Central Otago CIB.

Mr Williams also claimed he had e-mails from Mr Shaw saying: "If you have got something of ours it would be good to get it back. You can call me and I can come meet you."

Mr Williams placed one of the devices on Trade Me with a price of $250. The ad read: "Used government covert surveillance tracking. No police to bid on this ..."

A Trade Me spokesman said the listing was removed yesterday "at the request of the New Zealand Police".

Mr Williams said the cars were seized after an unmarked police car was torched in Alexandra in July. An investigation found nothing on him.

Mr Shaw would only say yesterday: "Police use a variety of legitimate investigation techniques. However, it is not the policy of the police to comment on those techniques or other operational matters."

The Summary Proceedings Act says a warrant should be obtained for a tracking device but one can be installed without a warrant if there is not time and an officer believes a judge would issue one if time permitted.
10/8/2008 3:35:25 PM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
Is there any way to scan a car to see if a GPS tracking is attached? I am not talking about a jammer but a device that can point to where a GPS transmitter is. Or will the tinfoil on my head be good enough?


What the hell did you do?
10/8/2008 3:36:56 PM EDT
[#10]
That is a funny article.
10/8/2008 3:38:11 PM EDT
[#11]
I vote... Tinfoil first, then proceed with any actions deemed necessary by thoughts not blocked by the tinfoil.
10/8/2008 3:38:15 PM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Is there any way to scan a car to see if a GPS tracking is attached? I am not talking about a jammer but a device that can point to where a GPS transmitter is. Or will the tinfoil on my head be good enough?


What the hell did you do?


  Probably just being prudent.
www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/12/AR2008081203275.html

Police Turn to Secret Weapon: GPS Device
By Ben Hubbard
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, August 13, 2008; Page A01

Someone was attacking women in Fairfax County and Alexandria, grabbing them from behind and sometimes punching and molesting them before running away. After logging 11 cases in six months, police finally identified a suspect.

David Lee Foltz Jr., who had served 17 years in prison for rape, lived near the crime scenes. To figure out if Foltz was the assailant, police pulled out their secret weapon: They put a Global Positioning System device on Foltz's van, which allowed them to track his movements.

Police said they soon caught Foltz dragging a woman into a wooded area in Falls Church. After his arrest on Feb. 6, the string of assaults suddenly stopped. The break in the case relied largely on a crime-fighting tool they would rather not discuss.

"We don't really want to give any info on how we use it as an investigative tool to help the bad guys," said Officer Shelley Broderick, a Fairfax police spokeswoman. "It is an investigative tool for us, and it is a very new investigative tool."

Across the country, police are using GPS devices to snare thieves, drug dealers, sexual predators and killers, often without a warrant or court order. Privacy advocates said tracking suspects electronically constitutes illegal search and seizure, violating Fourth Amendment rights of protection against unreasonable searches and seizures, and is another step toward George Orwell's Big Brother society. Law enforcement officials, when they discuss the issue at all, said GPS is essentially the same as having an officer trail someone, just cheaper and more accurate. Most of the time, as was done in the Foltz case, judges have sided with police.

With the courts' blessing, and the ever-declining cost of the technology, many analysts believe that police will increasingly rely on GPS as an effective tool in investigations and that the public will hear little about it. Last year, FBI agents used a GPS device while investigating an embezzlement scheme to steal from District taxpayers, attaching one to a suspect's Jaguar.

"I've seen them in cases from New York City to small towns -- whoever can afford to get the equipment and plant it on a car," said John Wesley Hall, president of the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers. "And of course, it's easy to do. You can sneak up on a car and plant it at any time."

Most police departments in the Washington region resist disclosing whether they use GPS to track suspects. D.C. police spokeswoman Traci Hughes said D.C. police do not use the technique. Police departments in Arlington, Fairfax and Montgomery counties and Alexandria declined to discuss the issue.

Cpl. Clinton Copeland, a Prince George's County police spokesman, said his department does use the technique. "But I don't think that's something [detectives] would be too happy to put out there like that," Copeland said. "They do have different techniques they like to use on suspects, but they don't really want people to know."

Details on how police use GPS usually become public when the use of the device is challenged in court. Such cases have revealed how police in Washington state arrested a man for killing his 9-year-old daughter: the GPS device attached to his truck led them to where he had buried her.

Cases have shown how detectives in New York caught a drug-runner after monitoring his car as he bought and sold methamphetamine. In Wisconsin, police tracked two suspected burglars by attaching a GPS device to their car and apprehending them after burglarizing a house.

The Foltz case offers a rare glimpse into how a Washington area police department uses GPS. Foltz's attorney, Chris Leibig, challenged police in court last week and tried to have the GPS evidence thrown out. He argued at a hearing at Arlington County General District Court that police needed a warrant since the device tracked Foltz's vehicle on private and public land. The judge disagreed, and the evidence will be used at Foltz's trial, which will begin Oct. 6. Foltz was charged in the Feb. 6 attack, but not in the others.
10/8/2008 3:41:49 PM EDT
[#13]

The Summary Proceedings Act says a warrant should be obtained for a tracking device but one can be installed without a warrant if there is not time and an officer believes a judge would issue one if time permitted.



New Zealand is catching up.

10/8/2008 3:53:34 PM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:


  A logger will register if a tech utilizes a non-linear junction detector.  It can locate any device with superconductors inside,
powered or not.


Which pretty much limits it to particle colliders, maglev trains, etc.  Won't find too many superconductors in consumer-grade GPS units.
10/8/2008 4:00:01 PM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:

Quoted:


  A logger will register if a tech utilizes a non-linear junction detector.  It can locate any device with superconductors inside,
powered or not.


Which pretty much limits it to particle colliders, maglev trains, etc.  Won't find too many superconductors in consumer-grade GPS units.
Lollerskates.
10/8/2008 4:29:21 PM EDT
[#16]
I read this and wonder how many objecting persons carry cellular phones.

With schadenfreude.  


Read up on how cellular phones operate.