[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Gaming PC build (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 2/4/2016 10:36:29 PM EDT
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How's this for a gaming PC?
[PCPartPicker part list](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Hb736h) / [Price breakdown by merchant](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Hb736h/by_merchant/) Type|Item|Price :----|:----|:---- **CPU** | [Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54460) | $174.89 @ OutletPC **CPU Cooler** | [Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-rrb10212pg1) | $17.99 @ Newegg **Motherboard** | [ASRock Z97 PRO4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-z97pro4) | $99.99 @ Micro Center **Memory** | [G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f312800cl9d8gbrl) | $29.99 @ Newegg **Storage** | [Samsung 950 PRO 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mzv5p256bw) | $179.99 @ Newegg **Video Card** | [EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB FTW ACX 2.0+ Video Card](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-video-card-06gp44996kr) | $629.99 @ Amazon **Case** | [Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-case-200r) | $44.99 @ Newegg **Power Supply** | [Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cx600m) | $44.99 @ Newegg | *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* | | Total (before mail-in rebates) | $1272.82 | Mail-in rebates | -$50.00 | **Total** | **$1222.82** | Generated by [PCPartPicker](http://pcpartpicker.com) 2016-02-04 21:35 EST-0500 | |
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I would go up to a 4690k that overclocks nicely with just the 212 cooler you picked.
No platter drive for bulk storage? I would add a 1TB WD Blue at least. Move up to 16GB RAM. Check out the NZXT S340 cases. Did a build in that for my son. Really like the clean build that case gives. |
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I would go up to a 4690k that overclocks nicely with just the 212 cooler you picked. No platter drive for bulk storage? I would add a 1TB WD Blue at least. Move up to 16GB RAM. Check out the NZXT S340 cases. Did a build in that for my son. Really like the clean build that case gives. is there a real noticable difference between 4460 and 4690k. i also heard thers not much performance boost between 8gb and 16gb already have external storage drive for files,photos,vids. |
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If you are getting the 980ti, you might as well get the i5 6600K, its not that much more expensive.
And if you are getting a top of the line GPU, it doesn't make sense to get an older CPU that could potentially bottleneck it in the future, especially if it can't be overclocked. |
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Does anyone know of a website that builds custom PC systems like this? I had one a while ago but lost it from my bookmarks. It wasn't a parts supplier like Newegg or a high-end assembler like Falcon or Alienware. But it let you select the CPU, components, etc and they'd build it and send it to you. |
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Max out your ram.
Get a better CPU. Don't buy ASROCK or other ECS Elitegroup crapola mobos. Downgrade your SSD to a regular ~200GB drive from SanDisk or whatever and upgrade something else. Lose the expensive CPU cooler and use the stock one until you can afford a better one later this year. |
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At stock speeds, not much difference. But that 4690k is unlocked. I would run it out of the gate at over 4ghz.
RAM is just so cheap, not much sense in not going with 16GB these days. Not sure how many games you have, but I have a LOT on my system. No way I can get all of them on my SSDs. I put the games I need to load fast on one of my SSDs and put all the other stuff on my platter drive. You are picking a 980ti, are you intending on running at 1440p or 4k? |
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If you are getting the 980ti, you might as well get the i5 6600K, its not that much more expensive. And if you are getting a top of the line GPU, it doesn't make sense to get an older CPU that could potentially bottleneck it in the future, especially if it can't be overclocked. i read the skylakes don't offer much if any performance over a haswell i5 4690k; it only consumes less power and less heat(which might be good for lifespan i suppose). I guess the only reason to get skylakes is for future proofing because LGA1151 and ddr4 is the newest and latest standard ? |
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i read the skylakes don't offer much if any performance over a haswell i5 4690k; it only consumes less power and less heat(which might be goof for lifespan i suppose). I guess the only reason to get skylakes is for future proofing because LGA1151 and ddr4 is the newest and latest standard ? Quoted:
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If you are getting the 980ti, you might as well get the i5 6600K, its not that much more expensive. And if you are getting a top of the line GPU, it doesn't make sense to get an older CPU that could potentially bottleneck it in the future, especially if it can't be overclocked. i read the skylakes don't offer much if any performance over a haswell i5 4690k; it only consumes less power and less heat(which might be goof for lifespan i suppose). I guess the only reason to get skylakes is for future proofing because LGA1151 and ddr4 is the newest and latest standard ? The new ram and motherboards are a good reason, but also if you overclock skylake is more consistent on improved speeds, while on haswell its more of a crapshoot and overclock speeds vary a lot more |
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What kind of monitor do you have? The 980ti is overkill unless you are going to run 1440p on ultra aiming for 60+fps or have a 4k monitor. If you are running 1080p, just get the gtx 970 and save $300 acer 144mhz 1080p - so 980ti sounds like a waste. Are there any 4K games out? |
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acer 144mhz 1080p - so 980ti sounds like a waste. Are there any 4K games out? Quoted:
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What kind of monitor do you have? The 980ti is overkill unless you are going to run 1440p on ultra aiming for 60+fps or have a 4k monitor. If you are running 1080p, just get the gtx 970 and save $300 acer 144mhz 1080p - so 980ti sounds like a waste. Are there any 4K games out? I'd get the 4590k w/ aftermarket cooler, 8 GB of RAM, and a GTX 970 for 1080p. You can run most new AAA games in 4K |
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I wouldn't get into 4k gaming right now. Even the 980s struggle with it. Nvidia is releasing their new generation soon anyway, so I wouldn't blow that kind of cash on a card that will be out dated soon.
GTX 970 is probably the best value. Can be had for under $300. |
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Is 8 gigs ddr3 gonna be adequate ram? Not nearly. I just upped to 16 and will probably double that with my next build next year. There's already screens of people's systems using in the high 20s with Star Citizen. Granted it's not optimized at all, but in the future games will require more and more RAM. Might as well go ahead and get it. |
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Are there any 4K games out? nVidia has a feature called DSR. You can run almost ANY game at 4k. 980ti is not overkill per se, just depends on what you want. If you have a 144hz monitor then you want to run 144 FPS for the smoothest gaming if possible. My 980 pushes 144hz in most games at 1080p, but not all current games on Ultra. So no, 980ti is not overkill IMO. I have a 144hz G-sync monitor so it is smooth no matter the FPS. |
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Revised build - changed to skylake cpu/mobo, ddr4, geforce 970, full size atx (for better airflow than a midatx). i didnt change the storage, would i notice no difference if i went with a SATAIII samsung evo (almost $100 less)?
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($254.89 @ OutletPC) CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($17.99 @ Newegg) Motherboard: MSI Z170A PC MATE ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($99.10 @ Amazon) Memory: Crucial 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($36.99 @ Adorama) Storage: Samsung 950 PRO 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($179.99 @ Newegg) Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB Superclocked ACX 2.0 Video Card ($324.99 @ Amazon) Case: NZXT Source 530 ATX Full Tower Case ($82.99 @ SuperBiiz) Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ Newegg) Total: $1041.93 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-02-04 22:23 EST-0500 |
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Some of the discussions in this thread made me curious so I did some testing.
This is with an old ass I5 2500k, MSI 980 and 16 GB RAM Fired up three of the big AAA games of the year. Star Wars Battlefront at 4k, Ultra/Max on everything ran smoothly right at 60FPS or more. Witcher 3 at 4k, Ultra/Max on everything except Hairworks running 60-70FPS Dying light at 4k, Max on everything except Shadow Map and View distance, 50-60 FPS (very demanding game, ran around 30FPS with these maxed) Witcher was using around 34% RAM. Star Wars was using around 40%. Dying Light was using around 40% So yes, 980s can handle 4k and I guess 8MB Ram is enough, but barely. For 30 bucks, the extra 8GB is worth it to me. |
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Tag. What's the expected lifespans on the i5 and 980ti ? Are they going to be able to run games that come out for the next 2 years? 4 years? 6? The 4th gen i5 will play any game out there for years. The limiting factor for games is the video card. The cpu is only keeping track of positional data for the most part. The graphics card is doing all of the heavy duty work rendering everything in real time. Also, I would ditch the asrock board and get an Asus board. |
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Not nearly. I just upped to 16 and will probably double that with my next build next year. There's already screens of people's systems using in the high 20s with Star Citizen. Granted it's not optimized at all, but in the future games will require more and more RAM. Might as well go ahead and get it. Quoted:
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Is 8 gigs ddr3 gonna be adequate ram? Not nearly. I just upped to 16 and will probably double that with my next build next year. There's already screens of people's systems using in the high 20s with Star Citizen. Granted it's not optimized at all, but in the future games will require more and more RAM. Might as well go ahead and get it. Star Citizen will use almost all resources or can. I'm running with 32GB and it still taxes my system. But that's because my video card is shit. I really need to upgrade it, but don't want to spend the money on it just for one game that probably won't be released during our lifetime. |
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I posted about one I built for myself as a work machine a couple months ago that is similar and for about the same money but I didn't go full bore on video (used a GTX 750ti 2GB) since I'm not a gamer and shouldn't be at work. But I used 32GB Ram and a i7-4770K processor and an Asus z-97 MB and more storage plus a giant case to keep it cool and that has worked real well. It's purpose was to run multiple VMs and it is perfect for that but it seems to play Just Cause 3 and World of Warships fine too. Is the video the key to today's current games and do you have to sacrifice processor, ram and storage to get to that price point?
A $1200 work build |
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The 4th gen i5 will play any game out there for years. The limiting factor for games is the video card. The cpu is only keeping track of positional data for the most part. The graphics card is doing all of the heavy duty work rendering everything in real time. Also, I would ditch the asrock board and get an Asus board. Quoted:
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Tag. What's the expected lifespans on the i5 and 980ti ? Are they going to be able to run games that come out for the next 2 years? 4 years? 6? The 4th gen i5 will play any game out there for years. The limiting factor for games is the video card. The cpu is only keeping track of positional data for the most part. The graphics card is doing all of the heavy duty work rendering everything in real time. Also, I would ditch the asrock board and get an Asus board. What would an i7 do better? I'm new to this so I'm pretty ignorant on the subject. My budget is $1500. Should I be looking at an i7? |
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You're getting there OP.
Get better RAMM Modules with "heat spreaders". Corsair is a good brand,but that is low-end "value RAMM". Don't skimp on it. The CPU is the Brain, your RAMM modules are the nervous system. Up your power supply to 1000 watts. I believe that Motherboard is not SLI compatible, should you choose to add a 2nd GPU down the road. Not a major problem with your 970,but you will at some point. 
I run 3 GPU's. (MSI Z97A SLI Krait Edition LGA 1150 is what I run with 3 @ EVGA 750Ti's) I almost went Intel LGA 1151 so I could run 288 Pin Dramm,but settled for 1150 LGA, with 2400Mhz GSkill Ripjaws @ 2400 Mhz I know you are budgetting,but have you considered a 2011-v3 Intel Socket? I did,but that was not in my budget. 
Also, think about an "all in one" watercooling system. I went that route and it dropped my CPU temps 10* Celsius . About $100 more bucks,but CPU longevity will go up as well as OC'ing potential. You should post this in the Urban Commando section of the Forum... them guys know "what's up". Best of luck Quoted:
Revised build - changed to skylake cpu/mobo, ddr4, geforce 970, full size atx (for better airflow than a midatx). i didnt change the storage, would i notice no difference if i went with a SATAIII samsung evo (almost $100 less)? PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($254.89 @ OutletPC) CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($17.99 @ Newegg) Motherboard: MSI Z170A PC MATE ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($99.10 @ Amazon) Memory: Crucial 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($36.99 @ Adorama) Storage: Samsung 950 PRO 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($179.99 @ Newegg) Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB Superclocked ACX 2.0 Video Card ($324.99 @ Amazon) Case: NZXT Source 530 ATX Full Tower Case ($82.99 @ SuperBiiz) Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ Newegg) Total: $1041.93 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-02-04 22:23 EST-0500 |
| It looks fine except for the PSU. 600 is kind of on the min side today. I mean, could you get by with it? Probably, I'd still check the requirements of your MB and video card, but I'd just bump it up a 750 or higher and not worry about it in the future. Also, the ram is on the min side as well. I'd go at least 12, if not 16. |
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If you are getting the 980ti, you might as well get the i5 6600K, its not that much more expensive. And if you are getting a top of the line GPU, it doesn't make sense to get an older CPU that could potentially bottleneck it in the future, especially if it can't be overclocked. This! I'm spent 200 more than your build and got 6600k, 16gb ddr4, and better mobo,case, and PSU. Lose the 950 pro, you can get double the space for less and use that savings on cpu/mobo/ram. |
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http://pcpartpicker.com/p/BjHHwP
The SSD you picked was ridiculously expensive. Since I saw that you have a NAS or something for storage, I opted for RAID0 SSDs instead for far less, and with more capacity. Just use Macrium Reflect to run incremental backups to your NAS or whatever, and enjoy the insane speed. The savings allowed for me to budget for more RAM and a MB with an Intel NIC. I swapped the PSU from a Corsair to a Seasonic. Corsair built their PSU reputation with rebranded Seasonic PSUs, but they are now outsourcing to rather crappy sources. Don't ever cheap out on a PSU. A gtx-970 is fine for limping until Pascal is released if you choose to do so. Quoted:
You're getting there OP. Get better RAMM Modules with "heat spreaders". Corsair is a good brand,but that is low-end "value RAMM". Don't skimp on it. The CPU is the Brain, your RAMM modules are the nervous system. Up your power supply to 1000 watts. I believe that Motherboard is not SLI compatible, should you choose to add a 2nd GPU down the road. Not a major problem with your 970,but you will at some point.
I run 3 GPU's. (MSI Z97A SLI Krait Edition LGA 1150 is what I run with 3 @ EVGA 750Ti's) I almost went Intel LGA 1151 so I could run 288 Pin Dramm,but settled for 1150 LGA, with 2400Mhz GSkill Ripjaws @ 2400 Mhz I know you are budgetting,but have you considered a 2011-v3 Intel Socket? I did,but that was not in my budget.
Also, think about an "all in one" watercooling system. I went that route and it dropped my CPU temps 10* Celsius . About $100 more bucks,but CPU longevity will go up as well as OC'ing potential. You should post this in the Urban Commando section of the Forum... them guys know "what's up". Best of luck All around bad idea. The system I specced wouldn't even hit 400w, much more hit 1KW. 650w is enough to SLI 670s with room to spare so the PSU I selected probably will barely ever turn its fan on when set to hybrid mode. The trend for computer components now is to use less electricity. The only constant for sizing a PSU as time goes by is to get a smaller one. RAM should be kept as simple as possible for many reason: 1. The RAM doesn't even get hot enough to warrant a heat spreader in the first place. If they were needed you'd see them on ECC server memory. 2. The fancier they make the RAM the more it gets overclocked and timings get lowered, just to have better specs at the cost of reliability and stability. RAM should always be at JEDEC standards since RAM is the most common factor in hardware instability. 3. Even if it was clocked to the sky it won't benefit from the added performance in games, or normal workloads. It's nice for synthetic benchmarks and not much else. source Price does seem to be a factor, so negative on the 2011 route. |
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How's this for a gaming PC? [PCPartPicker part list](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Hb736h) / [Price breakdown by merchant](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Hb736h/by_merchant/) Type|Item|Price :----|:----|:---- **CPU** | [Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54460) | $174.89 @ OutletPC **CPU Cooler** | [Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-rrb10212pg1) | $17.99 @ Newegg **Motherboard** | [ASRock Z97 PRO4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-z97pro4) | $99.99 @ Micro Center **Memory** | [G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f312800cl9d8gbrl) | $29.99 @ Newegg **Storage** | [Samsung 950 PRO 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mzv5p256bw) | $179.99 @ Newegg **Video Card** | [EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB FTW ACX 2.0+ Video Card](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-video-card-06gp44996kr) | $629.99 @ Amazon **Case** | [Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-case-200r) | $44.99 @ Newegg **Power Supply** | [Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cx600m) | $44.99 @ Newegg | *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* | | Total (before mail-in rebates) | $1272.82 | Mail-in rebates | -$50.00 | **Total** | **$1222.82** | Generated by [PCPartPicker](http://pcpartpicker.com) 2016-02-04 21:35 EST-0500 | More cpu, less gpu. An i5 6600k would only be $50 more and a Z170 mobo $30 more than current. Buy an AMD 390X and save $300. |
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Revised build - changed to skylake cpu/mobo, ddr4, geforce 970, full size atx (for better airflow than a midatx). i didnt change the storage, would i notice no difference if i went with a SATAIII samsung evo (almost $100 less)? PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($254.89 @ OutletPC) CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($17.99 @ Newegg) Motherboard: MSI Z170A PC MATE ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($99.10 @ Amazon) Memory: Crucial 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($36.99 @ Adorama) Storage: Samsung 950 PRO 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($179.99 @ Newegg) Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB Superclocked ACX 2.0 Video Card ($324.99 @ Amazon) Case: NZXT Source 530 ATX Full Tower Case ($82.99 @ SuperBiiz) Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ Newegg) Total: $1041.93 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-02-04 22:23 EST-0500 Ditch the 970 and get an AMD 390 or 390X. Also get 16gb ram insead of 8. |
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More Ram, 16GB should be min, i max it out cuz its soo cheap.
Less HD, Move to a smaller OS drive, and just add a larger TB drive that holds all the stuff. (assuming you have one floating around). More Power supply, so that in two years and you buy another 980 Ti, you don't need to upgrade it too :) Have fun! |
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That looks like it'll be a decent machine. You'll hate that box though. I struggled with crappy cases for years, then I bought a Lian Li. It's been gutted and rebuilt three times and it is sooooo much easier to work in. My box(my first build) has a Corsair Obsidian 750D. I have upgraded and messed around in Dells, HPs, and one from Cyberpower. This case was far and away the easiest to work in. The drive cages are removable, there's loads of spots for fans, and all the room in the world for huge GPUs/radiators/watercooling. And the gaskets for cable routing are the shit. I used no wire ties or zipties at all in this. 
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Max out your ram. Get a better CPU. Don't buy ASROCK or other ECS Elitegroup crapola mobos. Downgrade your SSD to a regular ~200GB drive from SanDisk or whatever and upgrade something else. Lose the expensive CPU cooler and use the stock one until you can afford a better one later this year. Meh, only 18 bucks and has the benefit of not sounding like a jet engine under load. I haven't overclocked in years, but I still buy large coolers (have the 212 as well) for this reason. No large mass storage drive? That 200 GB is gonna go quick. |
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He'd have to bump up his PSU most likely. 600w might be a bit tight. I am an AMD guy myself so I agree with you. Quoted:
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Looks like a good setup to me. I prefer the 970 myself (great performance for the money). 390/390x > 970 He'd have to bump up his PSU most likely. 600w might be a bit tight. I am an AMD guy myself so I agree with you. He'll be fine with a 600w. Even the most power hungry 390/390x are only pushing barely 400w max load on the entire system. He'd still have 200w headroom. But yeah, I bought an EVGA 850w G2 to run my 390/x when I get it. 
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