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Posted: 12/14/2023 4:10:20 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/14/2023 4:14:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: $1.99/gallon 85 octane up near Greeley, CO. Haven't seen it that low in a while.https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/310106/Screenshot_20231214-125552_GasBuddy_jpg-3059398.JPG  |
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Posted: 12/14/2023 4:38:36 PM EDT
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This morning $5.20 Regular/Shell, Mission Hills.
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Posted: 12/14/2023 4:39:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: $1.99/gallon 85 octane up near Greeley, CO. Haven't seen it that low in a while.https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/310106/Screenshot_20231214-125552_GasBuddy_jpg-3059398.JPG The closer to California you get, the more expensive fuel is due to lunatic emission laws. |
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Posted: 12/14/2023 4:46:58 PM EDT
[#5]
$3.89 for 87 at Costco.
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Posted: 12/14/2023 5:19:56 PM EDT
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$2.49 outside of Fort Worth
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Posted: 12/14/2023 5:20:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In before AK man makes us all feel better about our local gas prices.  |
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Posted: 12/14/2023 5:21:45 PM EDT
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Where did all those "I did that" stickers go?
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Posted: 12/14/2023 5:22:01 PM EDT
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It's $2.69 here. IN is usually more expensive because the state adds more tax to gas than any other this side of New Jersey (or something like that). The state government, of course, usually blames it on profiteering from the "Crossroads of America" or some such bullshit. Given all that, seeing others pay over $3 is kind of surprising.
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Posted: 12/14/2023 5:25:32 PM EDT
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Gas prices will probably start to drop even more, the democrat machine will gift billions to the saudis to lower oil prices for next years election.
That puke Yellen was the one that talked about inflation being transitory, now she's saying this is a soft landing. SHe like the rest of those lying American hating leftists can suck on it. |
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Posted: 12/14/2023 5:26:00 PM EDT
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$2.80/gallon
Frederick County, MD I was in NOVA and DC this week, over $4/gallon in those areas. |
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Posted: 12/14/2023 5:34:22 PM EDT
[#12]
2.45 last week
2.35 this week |
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Posted: 12/14/2023 6:25:50 PM EDT
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$2.25 for regular at Costco today
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Posted: 12/14/2023 7:21:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: $3.39 in Sierra Vista, Az. Circle K regular with their .10 discount. Bout the same in the closest town to me, Benson. I got a .20c off card at circle k a couple weeks ago when they had a promotion. |
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Posted: 12/15/2023 9:30:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Over saturation of the gasoline market currently. Part of it is, sure, lower demand. Part of it is just the cut of crudes being processed in the U.S. currently. Part of it is regional for me. Part of it is basically all the refineries are up and running right now. We’ve had a great streak the last few months of high refinery utilization. I had dinner with the fuel marketing side of a refiner on Monday. My market is tough for them. And PBF Lima came back online, as well as PBF Toledo. So two more refineries in the region putting gasoline into pipelines in the region. There’s a lot of gasoline on the market right now over all. Not enough diesel fuel because we’re still exporting the shit out of it to Europe. We’re also importing a lot of finished grade gasoline product from other countries currently. Which is driving down the refinery margins here. Odd times. Good for the consumer to drive gasoline prices down. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Refiners current losing money on the gasoline market. Economics just aren't there. Distillates and heavier products are doing good. Losing money because the market is oversaturated? Lower demand? Over saturation of the gasoline market currently. Part of it is, sure, lower demand. Part of it is just the cut of crudes being processed in the U.S. currently. Part of it is regional for me. Part of it is basically all the refineries are up and running right now. We’ve had a great streak the last few months of high refinery utilization. I had dinner with the fuel marketing side of a refiner on Monday. My market is tough for them. And PBF Lima came back online, as well as PBF Toledo. So two more refineries in the region putting gasoline into pipelines in the region. There’s a lot of gasoline on the market right now over all. Not enough diesel fuel because we’re still exporting the shit out of it to Europe. We’re also importing a lot of finished grade gasoline product from other countries currently. Which is driving down the refinery margins here. Odd times. Good for the consumer to drive gasoline prices down. @Foxtrot08 Super interesting seeing the back end now that the refinery systems are back up to a normal level. I remember you talking about refinery maintenance projects a while back. My question for you is about exports. The U.S. dollar is strong right now. Strong enough that is causing issues in export sales of Agricultural exports from the United States currently. Is the strong dollar situation affecting the export sales of the various fuels and crude produced in the United States for export? |
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Posted: 12/15/2023 9:44:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @Foxtrot08 Super interesting seeing the back end now that the refinery systems are back up to a normal level. I remember you talking about refinery maintenance projects a while back. My question for you is about exports. The U.S. dollar is strong right now. Strong enough that is causing issues in export sales of Agricultural exports from the United States currently. Is the strong dollar situation affecting the export sales of the various fuels and crude produced in the United States for export? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Refiners current losing money on the gasoline market. Economics just aren't there. Distillates and heavier products are doing good. Losing money because the market is oversaturated? Lower demand? Over saturation of the gasoline market currently. Part of it is, sure, lower demand. Part of it is just the cut of crudes being processed in the U.S. currently. Part of it is regional for me. Part of it is basically all the refineries are up and running right now. We’ve had a great streak the last few months of high refinery utilization. I had dinner with the fuel marketing side of a refiner on Monday. My market is tough for them. And PBF Lima came back online, as well as PBF Toledo. So two more refineries in the region putting gasoline into pipelines in the region. There’s a lot of gasoline on the market right now over all. Not enough diesel fuel because we’re still exporting the shit out of it to Europe. We’re also importing a lot of finished grade gasoline product from other countries currently. Which is driving down the refinery margins here. Odd times. Good for the consumer to drive gasoline prices down. @Foxtrot08 Super interesting seeing the back end now that the refinery systems are back up to a normal level. I remember you talking about refinery maintenance projects a while back. My question for you is about exports. The U.S. dollar is strong right now. Strong enough that is causing issues in export sales of Agricultural exports from the United States currently. Is the strong dollar situation affecting the export sales of the various fuels and crude produced in the United States for export? Lubricants market yes. Diesel fuel / jet fuel I’m sure. But Europe doesn’t have a bunch of other options for diesel fuel other than the U.S. right now. That can make the ULSD they want. Let alone the renewable diesel fuels some people want. But it’s also why we’re importing gasoline right now. Strong dollar, people want to off load gasoline here. Lubricant and natural gas export markets are getting pretty beat up right now. Everyone tried to raise lubricant prices. That failed. And now we’re supposedly looking at another decrease. |
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Posted: 12/15/2023 9:47:09 AM EDT
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Paid $2.92 yesterday.
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Posted: 12/15/2023 9:47:32 AM EDT
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3.32 for diesel at Costco
I think gas was 2.90 |
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Posted: 12/15/2023 10:05:23 AM EDT
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Best is $2.979 for 87 octane. Diesel is running anywhere from around $4.099 to $4.699 along my commute (but I do not use it - just keep an eye on it as a tracker of home heating oil).
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Posted: 12/15/2023 10:12:17 AM EDT
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$3.19 for Regular . $4.04 for Diesel
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Posted: 12/15/2023 10:26:30 AM EDT
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I kind of assumed that the high diesel prices had something to do with the low gas prices.
With the demand for our diesel being so high, I figured we're getting back to "gasoline is a waste product" territory. |
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Posted: 12/15/2023 8:07:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lubricants market yes. Diesel fuel / jet fuel I’m sure. But Europe doesn’t have a bunch of other options for diesel fuel other than the U.S. right now. That can make the ULSD they want. Let alone the renewable diesel fuels some people want. But it’s also why we’re importing gasoline right now. Strong dollar, people want to off load gasoline here. Lubricant and natural gas export markets are getting pretty beat up right now. Everyone tried to raise lubricant prices. That failed. And now we’re supposedly looking at another decrease. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Refiners current losing money on the gasoline market. Economics just aren't there. Distillates and heavier products are doing good. Losing money because the market is oversaturated? Lower demand? Over saturation of the gasoline market currently. Part of it is, sure, lower demand. Part of it is just the cut of crudes being processed in the U.S. currently. Part of it is regional for me. Part of it is basically all the refineries are up and running right now. We’ve had a great streak the last few months of high refinery utilization. I had dinner with the fuel marketing side of a refiner on Monday. My market is tough for them. And PBF Lima came back online, as well as PBF Toledo. So two more refineries in the region putting gasoline into pipelines in the region. There’s a lot of gasoline on the market right now over all. Not enough diesel fuel because we’re still exporting the shit out of it to Europe. We’re also importing a lot of finished grade gasoline product from other countries currently. Which is driving down the refinery margins here. Odd times. Good for the consumer to drive gasoline prices down. @Foxtrot08 Super interesting seeing the back end now that the refinery systems are back up to a normal level. I remember you talking about refinery maintenance projects a while back. My question for you is about exports. The U.S. dollar is strong right now. Strong enough that is causing issues in export sales of Agricultural exports from the United States currently. Is the strong dollar situation affecting the export sales of the various fuels and crude produced in the United States for export? Lubricants market yes. Diesel fuel / jet fuel I’m sure. But Europe doesn’t have a bunch of other options for diesel fuel other than the U.S. right now. That can make the ULSD they want. Let alone the renewable diesel fuels some people want. But it’s also why we’re importing gasoline right now. Strong dollar, people want to off load gasoline here. Lubricant and natural gas export markets are getting pretty beat up right now. Everyone tried to raise lubricant prices. That failed. And now we’re supposedly looking at another decrease. Thank you. I think it's just fascinating the cross roads we are at right now. On shoring heavy manufacturing, tech, and energy like hydrocarbons and nuclear fuel is really taking our economy to a place it really hasn't been in a good long time. |
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Posted: 12/16/2023 10:30:46 AM EDT
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Filled up last night for $2.54 a gallon.
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