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10/17/2016 9:37:38 AM EDT

It must be something in my character but I tend to not give up.

Maybe it was how I was raised and maybe the Navy
had something to do with it but I just tend to press on.

Why do people just give up so easily?







10/17/2016 9:40:56 AM EDT
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Because they're weak.
10/17/2016 9:43:41 AM EDT
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Giving up on what?  Sometimes you gotta cut and run, other times you fight to the bitter end.  This election and this country?  Bitter end.
10/17/2016 9:46:21 AM EDT
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10/17/2016 9:48:32 AM EDT
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Depression is really really hard for someone on the outside looking in to understand.
10/17/2016 9:48:37 AM EDT
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Beta people. Some people just need to be told what to do. Sheep is the only accurate description.
10/17/2016 9:49:15 AM EDT
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Perseverance requires exercise by enduring harsh realities.
Most people are soft.
10/17/2016 9:58:11 AM EDT
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Punching your way through a concrete wall with your fists is painful, and a waste of effort.  Sometimes you don't realize what you're doing until after taking a few swings.
10/17/2016 9:59:29 AM EDT
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10/17/2016 10:00:09 AM EDT
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Pussifacation of Mercia. Grown men ruled by their emotions is sickening.
10/17/2016 10:00:41 AM EDT
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So you find the correct tools to get it done, you don't run around crying because you hurt your hands.
10/17/2016 10:00:44 AM EDT
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I'm oppositional defiant, the more I should give up, the less able I am to.


Sometimes this gives me a fantastic edge.

Often it just gets my ass beat worse
10/17/2016 10:01:12 AM EDT
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Two cures for Depression that I know of

1. Medicine - I knew a guy who had a chemical imbalance that only medicine helped.

2. Pressing on even when you don't want to, on the far side it gets much better.

10/17/2016 10:03:41 AM EDT
[#13]
Or run away rather than fight. And then poke fun at those doing the fighting.

Pussys.
10/17/2016 10:06:27 AM EDT
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10/17/2016 10:07:25 AM EDT
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It must be something in my character but I tend to not give up.

Maybe it was how I was raised and maybe the Navy
had something to do with it but I just tend to press on.

Why do people just give up so easily?






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Empire State.
10/17/2016 10:11:35 AM EDT
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#ToTheBitterEnd
10/17/2016 10:14:23 AM EDT
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This.

I seldom give up on things which have outcomes that are healthy, necessary or desirable with input costs that are commensurate with the outcome. I give up on a LOT of shit that is more hassle than the outcome is worth.

Opportunity costs are a real thing.

A great example is learning the cello. I decided to learn the cello once. I already knew guitar and figured I could translate those skills pretty easily. After a bit of fucking around, some lessons and a not insignificant outlay of cash and time I decided that learning the cello, for no other reason than to be able to say "I *also* play the cello," wasn't worth the hassle.

The counter to that argument is learning Spanish. I'm not giving up learning Spanish because the outcome is worth the time and money it will cost my to achieve fluency. Ultimately, my knowledge of Spanish will allow me to be more profitable, more socially engaged and more inconspicuous in my AO. In *that* case, the juice is worth the squeeze.

Not giving up isn't a redeeming personality trait in all circumstances. Giving up too easily isn't one either.

Like most things in life ... it depends.

.... and the wisdom to know the difference.
10/17/2016 10:34:05 AM EDT
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So you find the correct tools to get it done, you don't run around crying because you hurt your hands.
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Punching your way through a concrete wall with your fists is painful, and a waste of effort.  Sometimes you don't realize what you're doing until after taking a few swings.


So you find the correct tools to get it done, you don't run around crying because you hurt your hands.


I guess I should have added that it depends on how you value what's on the other side of the wall, or if there's anything there at all.
10/17/2016 10:38:41 AM EDT
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Yea I also tend to do that at times

(AKA To dumb to know when to quit)

10/17/2016 10:39:22 AM EDT
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10/17/2016 10:39:58 AM EDT
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10/17/2016 10:40:34 AM EDT
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Depends on what you're giving up on.  Somethings aren't worth fighting over and you have to pick your battles.
10/17/2016 12:44:23 PM EDT
[#23]
If at first you don't succeed, give up.

Anything that can't be done easily, probably isn't worth doing.
10/17/2016 3:23:30 PM EDT
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I consider myself pretty determined. But this must be borne in mind.
10/17/2016 3:25:12 PM EDT
[#25]
When an alpha lion gets old, the younger ones castrate him with their teeth so his old genetic info can't impregnate young, heathy females. It's the cycle of life.
10/17/2016 3:27:25 PM EDT
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This.

I seldom give up on things which have outcomes that are healthy, necessary or desirable with input costs that are commensurate with the outcome. I give up on a LOT of shit that is more hassle than the outcome is worth.

Opportunity costs are a real thing.

A great example is learning the cello. I decided to learn the cello once. I already knew guitar and figured I could translate those skills pretty easily. After a bit of fucking around, some lessons and a not insignificant outlay of cash and time I decided that learning the cello, for no other reason than to be able to say "I *also* play the cello," wasn't worth the hassle.

The counter to that argument is learning Spanish. I'm not giving up learning Spanish because the outcome is worth the time and money it will cost my to achieve fluency. Ultimately, my knowledge of Spanish will allow me to be more profitable, more socially engaged and more inconspicuous in my AO. In *that* case, the juice is worth the squeeze.

Not giving up isn't a redeeming personality trait in all circumstances. Giving up too easily isn't one either.

Like most things in life ... it depends.

.... and the wisdom to know the difference.
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Punching your way through a concrete wall with your fists is painful, and a waste of effort.  Sometimes you don't realize what you're doing until after taking a few swings.

This.

I seldom give up on things which have outcomes that are healthy, necessary or desirable with input costs that are commensurate with the outcome. I give up on a LOT of shit that is more hassle than the outcome is worth.

Opportunity costs are a real thing.

A great example is learning the cello. I decided to learn the cello once. I already knew guitar and figured I could translate those skills pretty easily. After a bit of fucking around, some lessons and a not insignificant outlay of cash and time I decided that learning the cello, for no other reason than to be able to say "I *also* play the cello," wasn't worth the hassle.

The counter to that argument is learning Spanish. I'm not giving up learning Spanish because the outcome is worth the time and money it will cost my to achieve fluency. Ultimately, my knowledge of Spanish will allow me to be more profitable, more socially engaged and more inconspicuous in my AO. In *that* case, the juice is worth the squeeze.

Not giving up isn't a redeeming personality trait in all circumstances. Giving up too easily isn't one either.

Like most things in life ... it depends.

.... and the wisdom to know the difference.

Get out of here with your logical, well-reasoned, and coherent response.  This is GD.
10/17/2016 3:37:47 PM EDT
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“Nothing in the world can take the place of Persistence.
Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent.
Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb.
Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts.
Persistence and Determination alone are omnipotent.
The slogan “Press On” has solved and will always solve the problems of the human race.”

—Calvin Coolidge

10/17/2016 3:37:54 PM EDT
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10/17/2016 3:42:52 PM EDT
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