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Posted: 1/27/2024 3:41:36 PM EDT
I have a 2018 Jeep Wrangler that’s getting up in mileage, I am considering upgrading to a Gladiator, I remember an old tread and now you can get a new one for less than 40k. why are they so cheap? Any reasons not to? Basically city streets and flat off road so nothing 4 wheel super complex.
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Originally Posted By superdoc: I have a 2018 Jeep Wrangler that’s getting up in mileage, I am considering upgrading to a Gladiator, I remember an old tread and now you can get a new one for less than 40k. why are they so cheap? Any reasons not to? Basically city streets and flat off road so nothing 4 wheel super complex. View Quote Restyle on the 2024, they are discounting leftover 2023. I bought a JTR two weeks ago and with my trade wound up ~30k off msrp. I dont think the changes are significant enough to order a 24 at full price, and the one I bought is l-l-loaded. It is my 2nd Gladiator and I love them. |
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I have to admit, I did no research .
Just like the majority of GD posters. |
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Market saturation and the redesign. Stellantis overproduced.
Test drive one before you buy. Personally, I think the Gladiator tries (unsuccessfully) to be two vehicles in one. It's a Wrangler body on a half-ton Ram pickup frame. So all the comfort/convenience shortcomings of a Wrangler - narrow body, cramped interior, weird ergos, small engine, less payload/towing - with all the offroad shortcomings of a pickup - longer wheelbase, longer rear overhang, wider track. I have my Wranglers to play in the snow or mud, and I have my V-8-powered half-ton Sierra Denali (or 3/4-ton Suburban) to haul or tow stuff with ease and comfort. |
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Leaving disappointed. |
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2020 here.
Love it. Remember it is a JL Wrangler until after the backseats. The longer wheelbase gives it a much better ride than the Wrangler. There are guards you can install between aft of the rear wheel to the back bumper if you think the departure angle will be a problem. With 33s at 75mph it gets 19mpg. Not bad. 64k miles and I’ve only replaced the front brake pads. I would buy another if something happened to this one. |
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I replaced my 15 JKUR with a Mojave Gladiator and couldn’t be happier. I will probably always own one.
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I want a 2024 only because I want an orange one.
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someone sent me a link while talking about a gladiator in another thread, a dealership in MO. i contacted them and they offered me 15k under MSRP on a rubicon. i was gonna bit but i didn't want to pay the additional CA taxes.
here in CA, they are still near MSRP, or they have a shit load of useless mall crawler garbage on them to jack the prices up. the pricing is dropping though. i would jump on one, but i don't want a 900 dollar a month payment. |
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Is Jeep still using the 3.6 pentastar minivan engine? What a POS it is?
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We are born free and will stay free. |
2021 Stingray Rubicon, 2 inch Mopar lift and 37's. I freakin love it.
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Originally Posted By CSeaBass: someone sent me a link while talking about a gladiator in another thread, a dealership in MO. i contacted them and they offered me 15k under MSRP on a rubicon. i was gonna bit but i didn't want to pay the additional CA taxes. here in CA, they are still near MSRP, or they have a shit load of useless mall crawler garbage on them to jack the prices up. the pricing is dropping though. i would jump on one, but i don't want a 900 dollar a month payment. View Quote $15k or 15%? Link? |
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They're not selling.
Jeep is offering 15% off MSRP and dealers are also selling under invoice which further deepens the discount. If you want one now is the time, they're practically giving them away. I've seen 12-15K off sticker. Unfortunately I cannot buy right now or I'd have one. |
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GD is like putting on crampons and walking through a room full of puppies.
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Originally Posted By Banditman: They have not fallen in price in my area. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/126641/39452575_jpg-3109358.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/126641/20231122_122336_jpg-3109374.JPG View Quote https://www.thedrive.com/news/jeep-gladiator-gets-record-20k-discount-off-msrp-amid-sales-slump Because a third of your volume dropping out does that Attached File Due to https://www.motorbiscuit.com/2023-jeep-gladiator-sales-tanking-whats-wrong-wrangler-pickup/ |
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Originally Posted By FredMan: I was expecting to be entertained. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By FredMan: Originally Posted By DaveJRSC: This post needs more Russell Crowe. I was expecting to be entertained. I was hoping for a cool movie thread. Got a gay truck thread instead. |
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Originally Posted By buckfever34: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/55554/B21EBF90-EBD4-4A69-BC04-96AAB545996A-3109397.jpg I got one. It's fun to tool around in and hauls out dead deer just fine. I'd not want to daily drive it, though. View Quote As more people discover this, the fewer buyers Jeep has. |
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I DD mine and love it.
OP, I highly recommend one if you have the means. It is so choice. Plus the discounts are pretty awesome. |
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2021 just said to 2020, hold my beer and watch this. Poster formally known as Iam4
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I love mine.
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Originally Posted By CSeaBass: someone sent me a link while talking about a gladiator in another thread, a dealership in MO. i contacted them and they offered me 15k under MSRP on a rubicon. i was gonna bit but i didn't want to pay the additional CA taxes. here in CA, they are still near MSRP, or they have a shit load of useless mall crawler garbage on them to jack the prices up. the pricing is dropping though. i would jump on one, but i don't want a 900 dollar a month payment. View Quote Mind letting me know what dealer offered that? I’m in MO & a gladiator is on my wife’s want list. |
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Originally Posted By Banditman: They have not fallen in price in my area. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/126641/39452575_jpg-3109358.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/126641/20231122_122336_jpg-3109374.JPG View Quote Bullshit I work at a Stellantis dealership and nationwide these perform so poorly even 20% off MSRP doesn't move the needle. For a while some dealers were doing 30% off and still had inventory with 180+ DOL |
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If you're after one, the dealers will move Heaven and Earth to find what you want. Mine was able to find one of 3 within a 300 mile radius that had the full time 4wd transfer case option and it made all the difference in severe weather driving. Rare option unless you build one. They likely wont know what you are talking about and try to tell you it's all the same, so you might have to show them the option. Rock-Trak Full Time 4wd on Rubicon, Select Trac on the other trims. The shifter will say 4wd auto in addition to 4wd part time, as will the gauge cluster.
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Originally Posted By hkx3: Bullshit I work at a Stellantis dealership and nationwide these perform so poorly even 20% off MSRP doesn't move the needle. For a while some dealers were doing 30% off and still had inventory with 180+ DOL View Quote I haven't seen local prices fall IN MY AREA They raise MSRP and mark down to normal prices I got my 2023 Rubicon for 52k before taxes in Aug https://www.thunderchrysler.com/new-jeep?page=1 |
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Originally Posted By superdoc: why are they so cheap? View Quote Because they can't give them away. |
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Originally Posted By Banditman: I haven't seen local prices fall IN MY AREA View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Banditman: Originally Posted By hkx3: Bullshit I work at a Stellantis dealership and nationwide these perform so poorly even 20% off MSRP doesn't move the needle. For a while some dealers were doing 30% off and still had inventory with 180+ DOL I haven't seen local prices fall IN MY AREA Right now they should all be 15% off MSRP nationwide per Jeep's website. Maybe they don't update the stickers but if you look at the VIN of what's on the lot you should be able to find it pretty easily. |
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Let's Go Red Wings!
Beautifying the world one logo at a time since 1993. Soli Deo Gloria |
looks like the Cherokee's are well-discounted currently also
i fell like Jeep makes a good LOOKING product. long-term reliability a little sus. if i wanted a cheaper medium sized truck i'd look hard at the Nissan Frontier -- which is typically less than an equivalent Tacoma |
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Wake up, wake up and smell the ashes.
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Originally Posted By macman37: Right now they should all be 15% off MSRP nationwide per Jeep's website. Maybe they don't update the stickers but if you look at the VIN of what's on the lot you should be able to find it pretty easily. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By macman37: Originally Posted By Banditman: Originally Posted By hkx3: Bullshit I work at a Stellantis dealership and nationwide these perform so poorly even 20% off MSRP doesn't move the needle. For a while some dealers were doing 30% off and still had inventory with 180+ DOL I haven't seen local prices fall IN MY AREA Right now they should all be 15% off MSRP nationwide per Jeep's website. Maybe they don't update the stickers but if you look at the VIN of what's on the lot you should be able to find it pretty easily. The 30% dip may well have been 50% if not for the profit shredding discount program Manley and Meunier jammed in place. Kinda shit show after an impressive few years. |
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They cheap as fuck right now:
Attached File For the Rubicon Bros: Attached File And why not a diesel? Attached File There are also lightly used lifted gladiators on a pile of used car lots now. |
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I have a 2020 JTR 6 spd and I would do it again. Daily drive it. 61k miles or so. Few Jeep quirks...
Had to buy some brackets off EBay because the visor mounts break and these brackets hold them on better. Parking brake cable has disconnected from the lever twice now. Need to fix it again. Takes about 10-15 minutes. Isn't it interesting how the people that don't have (or want) one don't like them, and the people that have them like them? Perhaps the former should avoid giving their input it threads like this and leave it to the people that have actually driven one... |
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Originally Posted By Banditman: I haven't seen local prices fall IN MY AREA They raise MSRP and mark down to normal prices I got my 2023 Rubicon for 52k before taxes in Aug https://www.thunderchrysler.com/new-jeep?page=1 View Quote Dealers can’t just magically raise MSRP. That’s a fixed price and depends on options. |
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Originally Posted By Never_A_Wick: Dealers can't just magically raise MSRP. That's a fixed price and depends on options. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Never_A_Wick: Originally Posted By Banditman: I haven't seen local prices fall IN MY AREA They raise MSRP and mark down to normal prices I got my 2023 Rubicon for 52k before taxes in Aug https://www.thunderchrysler.com/new-jeep?page=1 Dealers can't just magically raise MSRP. That's a fixed price and depends on options. He likely means Market Adjustment not MSRP. But not much stated isn't clear or common. |
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Originally Posted By Never_A_Wick: Dealers can’t just magically raise MSRP. That’s a fixed price and depends on options. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Never_A_Wick: Originally Posted By Banditman: I haven't seen local prices fall IN MY AREA They raise MSRP and mark down to normal prices I got my 2023 Rubicon for 52k before taxes in Aug https://www.thunderchrysler.com/new-jeep?page=1 Dealers can’t just magically raise MSRP. That’s a fixed price and depends on options. Why the jump? 67k rubicon come on |
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Originally Posted By OregonShooter: They cheap as fuck right now: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/76/cheap_gladiator_JPG-3109469.JPG For the Rubicon Bros: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/76/rubicon_glad_JPG-3109472.JPG And why not a diesel? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/76/diesel_glad_JPG-3109474.JPG There are also lightly used lifted gladiators on a pile of used car lots now. View Quote Nice prices. Makes me want a base sport to put decent 3” lift on, 37s, and TruTracs front and rear. I sold my absolutely loaded Rubicon a while back while the gettin was good, and I miss it. I’m driving a sweet JK right now, but the “refinement” of the JT was really nice. A “base” model Mojave would actually fit the bill nicely. |
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A Nation of Sheep Breeds a Government of Wolves! The government is wise. The government knows what is best. …For us |
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Originally Posted By Fullautoguy: Same, I have a 2021 Willy’s lived on 35s. It drives smooth and it allows me to do truck stuff when I need it as well as it’s a great camping vehicle. View Quote I have a 2020 Rubicon. I put 4:88 gears in it a bumper, winch, toolbox and some lights. It serves my purposes well. I don't tow heavy stuff. I carry a dog, guns, decoys and shit like that while hunting. I've been running 35x12.50x17 tires now. I'll be moving to 37s in the fall. |
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Cheesecake OG 1,2,3 and Cold War. Knight of Wonder. Nothing rhymes with apocalypse, except maybe taco lips-Carl Poppa
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They might not be as capable as a wrangler, but they are more useful.
It’s a mid sized pickup truck that looks distinctive. Rides better than the leaf spring trucks. 2023 Mojave here |
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Originally Posted By MainePure: That was msrp on mine, well optioned. I'd never pay that for one. I'm tickled pink with the deal I got, and that I was in the position to jump when the prices were slashed. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By MainePure: Originally Posted By Banditman: Why the jump? 67k rubicon come on That was msrp on mine, well optioned. I'd never pay that for one. I'm tickled pink with the deal I got, and that I was in the position to jump when the prices were slashed. Mine was 59k and pretty well optioned no leather and back up sensors. I can't see them adding up to 8k. |
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Let us never forget, government has no resources of its own. Government can only give to us what it has previously taken from us.
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‘21 High Altitude diesel here. I put 33” KO2’s and Rubicon 17” wheels on for wheeling and winter. We love it and would buy another in a second, but the diesels are no longer available. The 3 liter TD is far superior to the 3.6.
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