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Originally Posted By X-CaptHook: Absolutely. Reminds me very much of Operation Fast and Furious. What better way to prove the point of being readily convertible, to the average person and to the courts? |
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Originally Posted By smullen: I may be a bit jaded, but 1. Was the actually, OP (not the OP here) someone trusted and known? 2. How do we know thats really a Glock V? Not something someone engraved or photochoped for a silly HOAX? 3. Who already has a V to do smith a new gadget? 4. Has anyone seen it work? I mean I can glue a nugget to the back of any Poly Pistol, post it on the inerwebs and claim its a switch... If its on the Net, it has to be true. It is zero stretch to believe this is true. As someone in the field, ANY semi auto can be made full auto with enough knowhow and effort. Glocks just happen to be on the easier end of that spectrum. Hell, they made a 1903 bolt action rifle FA. |
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Originally Posted By Rat_Patrol: The dirty secret everybody knows is that all semi auto firearms are "easily" converted to full auto. The mechanics of self cycling the action is the hard part. Originally Posted By Rat_Patrol: Originally Posted By X-CaptHook: Absolutely. Reminds me very much of Operation Fast and Furious. What better way to prove the point of being readily convertible, to the average person and to the courts? Right?! It’s either 1. Really expensive or 2. Illegal |
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Originally Posted By jaqufrost: IIRC, the V has a metal hump that will have to be removed for that to work. Looks like they just attached it to the slide and haven't modified the frame yet. To be fair, I think it could be done in ten minutes with a dremel. Easy enough to make a toggling disconnector that drops down after whatever frame obstruction is interfering and still trip the sear. |
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Originally Posted By Rat_Patrol: The dirty secret everybody knows is that all semi auto firearms are "easily" converted to full auto. The mechanics of self cycling the action is the hard part. Yep. Just file down the firing pin and bada bing, bada boom, Bob's your uncle. |
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Originally Posted By Rat_Patrol: The dirty secret everybody knows is that all semi auto firearms are "easily" converted to full auto. The mechanics of self cycling the action is the hard part. Originally Posted By Rat_Patrol: Originally Posted By X-CaptHook: Absolutely. Reminds me very much of Operation Fast and Furious. What better way to prove the point of being readily convertible, to the average person and to the courts? And that's why this is a huge threat. The 2A community needs to find an answer, and they can't leave Glock to get picked off outside the herd. |
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Originally Posted By EncoreGolf: So you think thugs are gonna run out and buy a bunch of new V model Glocks huh? I see. Originally Posted By EncoreGolf: Originally Posted By eurotrash: Somebody should order 1000s of switches and leave them in a pile in the ghetto. Or sprinkle them around in plastic Easter eggs. So you think thugs are gonna run out and buy a bunch of new V model Glocks huh? I see. If I understand the picture correctly they modified the switch, not the gun, and the switch would work on all Glocks, not just V models. |
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Originally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy: And that's why this is a huge threat. The 2A community needs to find an answer, and they can't leave Glock to get picked off outside the herd. Originally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy: Originally Posted By Rat_Patrol: Originally Posted By X-CaptHook: Absolutely. Reminds me very much of Operation Fast and Furious. What better way to prove the point of being readily convertible, to the average person and to the courts? And that's why this is a huge threat. The 2A community needs to find an answer, and they can't leave Glock to get picked off outside the herd. I'm not quite understanding why you think this is a threat to the 2nd amendment? Glock bending the knee is the major threat. People designing a new switch days after the V was released is GOOD for the 2nd amendment. It shows that gun laws do nothing Gun companies need to get together and agree to NOT bend the knee ever again. Ahem, Ruger, S&W, Springfield, Glock.... |
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Originally Posted By runcible: I won’t be surprised if that’s legit. Pretty funny. I'm not aiming this at you I'm just venting on the internet: I do find it odd that the glock switch has been around for 30 years and it was never really an issue until a certain country, China, started making and importing them by the millions via Temu, Wish, and alibaba. It seems like a transparent effort by a foreign country to fuck up our country and our response is to try to punish the gun manufacturer - who isn't without some fault here for folding like an old rusty chair at the first signs of a fight. |
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Originally Posted By DaveM4P99: I'm not quite understanding why you think this is a threat to the 2nd amendment? Glock bending the knee is the major threat. People designing a new switch days after the V was released is GOOD for the 2nd amendment. It shows that gun laws do nothing Gun companies need to get together and agree to NOT bend the knee ever again. Ahem, Ruger, S&W, Springfield, Glock.... Originally Posted By DaveM4P99: Originally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy: Originally Posted By Rat_Patrol: Originally Posted By X-CaptHook: Absolutely. Reminds me very much of Operation Fast and Furious. What better way to prove the point of being readily convertible, to the average person and to the courts? And that's why this is a huge threat. The 2A community needs to find an answer, and they can't leave Glock to get picked off outside the herd. I'm not quite understanding why you think this is a threat to the 2nd amendment? Glock bending the knee is the major threat. People designing a new switch days after the V was released is GOOD for the 2nd amendment. It shows that gun laws do nothing Gun companies need to get together and agree to NOT bend the knee ever again. Ahem, Ruger, S&W, Springfield, Glock.... I'm not sure you understand the legal landscape here. The states attacking Glock have zero risk, unlimited funds, and a near guarantee of winning their cases in lower level courts. Companies like Glock are facing an existential threat, they have limited resources, they have a near guarantee of losing their cases in lower courts, and they'll be betting their lives on higher level courts that might not even listen to the cases, much less decide in their favor. This avenue of attack is a big f'ing problem. |
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Originally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy: This nonsense might be the single biggest threat to the 2A in 2025. The industry and the lobby groups better get together and start making this a priority. Enemy torpedoes are in the water. Yup. I bet other popular guns can be converted too. It's been only Glock so far because it is so popular and ubiquitous. Now, Glock may respond with some REALLY stupid mods like no removable back-plate or some other shit that goes further away from perfection. I love Glock but have zero interest in a F/A switch. I also dont want ghetto goblins all carrying "Glock 18's" because knowing how fucked up the world is, Glocks will get banned before the goblins. |
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Originally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy: I'm not sure you understand the legal landscape here. The states attacking Glock have zero risk, unlimited funds, and a near guarantee of winning their cases in lower level courts. Companies like Glock are facing an existential threat, they have limited resources, they have a near guarantee of losing their cases in lower courts, and they'll be betting their lives on higher level courts that might not even listen to the cases, much less decide in their favor. This avenue of attack is a big f'ing problem. Oh, I'm sure they will stop at Glock and won't go after SIG, Ruger, Colt, etc.  Once they fuck over Glock and run them out of the civilian market, they will then eagerly attack the #2. Then all semi-auto's because "nature always finds a way"... |
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Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Oh, I'm sure they will stop at Glock and won't go after SIG, Ruger, Colt, etc. Once they fuck over Glock and run them out of the civilian market, they will then eagerly attack the #2. Then all semi-auto's because "nature always finds a way"... Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy: I'm not sure you understand the legal landscape here. The states attacking Glock have zero risk, unlimited funds, and a near guarantee of winning their cases in lower level courts. Companies like Glock are facing an existential threat, they have limited resources, they have a near guarantee of losing their cases in lower courts, and they'll be betting their lives on higher level courts that might not even listen to the cases, much less decide in their favor. This avenue of attack is a big f'ing problem. Oh, I'm sure they will stop at Glock and won't go after SIG, Ruger, Colt, etc. Once they fuck over Glock and run them out of the civilian market, they will then eagerly attack the #2. Then all semi-auto's because "nature always finds a way"... This. Not another fucking inch. Full auto Glocks should be 100% legal in the first fucking place. |
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@FrostBack Can you post videos of gangsters bragging about their switches while exhibiting gun safety, please? We need to remember the impressionable youth. Also, pics of your Mopars please 
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Originally Posted By smullen: I may be a bit jaded, but 1. Was the actually, OP (not the OP here) someone trusted and known? 2. How do we know thats really a Glock V? Not something someone engraved or photochoped for a silly HOAX? 3. Who already has a V to do smith a new gadget? 4. Has anyone seen it work? I mean I can glue a nugget to the back of any Poly Pistol, post it on the inerwebs and claim its a switch... If its on the Net, it has to be true. A Glock distributor jumped the gun and sold Gen VI's to dealers around 10 days ago. There were some available at the Indy 1500 gun show last weekend. |
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Originally Posted By jagdkommando: A Glock distributor jumped the gun and sold Gen VI's to dealers around 10 days ago. There were some available at the Indy 1500 gun show last weekend. I don't think they had any kind of firm release date. Davidson's had them in that time frame and Zanders has them readily available now. My suspicion is that lots of dealers are sitting on lots of gen5 inventory and the V is virtually no better so they should be available for the forseeable future. |
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Originally Posted By JDatTOA: I don't think they had any kind of firm release date. Davidson's had them in that time frame and Zanders has them readily available now. My suspicion is that lots of dealers are sitting on lots of gen5 inventory and the V is virtually no better so they should be available for the forseeable future. Originally Posted By JDatTOA: Originally Posted By jagdkommando: A Glock distributor jumped the gun and sold Gen VI's to dealers around 10 days ago. There were some available at the Indy 1500 gun show last weekend. I don't think they had any kind of firm release date. Davidson's had them in that time frame and Zanders has them readily available now. My suspicion is that lots of dealers are sitting on lots of gen5 inventory and the V is virtually no better so they should be available for the forseeable future. lol The market panic bought nearly all the double stack 9mm Glocks in circulation. My local FFL had nothing but slimline guns and old G22s in the Glock section last time I was there. One of his distributors allocated him 2 G47s, and he was still waiting for those last time I was there. Everything else was gone and unavailable. |
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Originally Posted By EncoreGolf: So you think thugs are gonna run out and buy a bunch of new V model Glocks huh? I see. Originally Posted By EncoreGolf: Originally Posted By eurotrash: Somebody should order 1000s of switches and leave them in a pile in the ghetto. Or sprinkle them around in plastic Easter eggs. So you think thugs are gonna run out and buy a bunch of new V model Glocks huh? I see. Who said “buy”? |
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Originally Posted By Ridgerunner9876: It is zero stretch to believe this is true. As someone in the field, ANY semi auto can be made full auto with enough knowhow and effort. Glocks just happen to be on the easier end of that spectrum. Hell, they made a 1903 bolt action rifle FA. Originally Posted By Ridgerunner9876: Originally Posted By smullen: I may be a bit jaded, but 1. Was the actually, OP (not the OP here) someone trusted and known? 2. How do we know thats really a Glock V? Not something someone engraved or photochoped for a silly HOAX? 3. Who already has a V to do smith a new gadget? 4. Has anyone seen it work? I mean I can glue a nugget to the back of any Poly Pistol, post it on the inerwebs and claim its a switch... If its on the Net, it has to be true. It is zero stretch to believe this is true. As someone in the field, ANY semi auto can be made full auto with enough knowhow and effort. Glocks just happen to be on the easier end of that spectrum. Hell, they made a 1903 bolt action rifle FA. And Winchester 94s (Cuban Winchesters, they were called; converted to subguns). |
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Originally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy: lol The market panic bought nearly all the double stack 9mm Glocks in circulation. My local FFL had nothing but slimline guns and old G22s in the Glock section last time I was there. One of his distributors allocated him 2 G47s, and he was still waiting for those last time I was there. Everything else was gone and unavailable. We only sold through the MOS guns, as those are currently unavailable in the V models. Plenty of regular 19/17 gen5s to be had. |
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Originally Posted By eurotrash: Somebody should order 1000s of switches and leave them in a pile in the ghetto. Or sprinkle them around in plastic Easter eggs. Send them to Charles Schumers next cookout |
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Shows where we are as a country. Glock switches are illegal, there are untold numbers in possession of criminals. One political party/mindset makes sure to sue the manufacturer of the firearm, not the manufacturer of the illegal switch - and does not support enforcement of the law for certain groups. Same party defends illegal entrance to the US by pretty much anyone. …. That political party/mindset appears to be corrupted to the point of no return. |
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Originally Posted By ARCNA442: Everyone celebrating is missing the point that this means glock and every glock clone will now continue to be sued into the ground. For what ? They didnt manufacture the switches . Anything can be modified by anyone at any anytime. Sounds fucking retarded to me . Get rid of the NFA , it’s unconstitutional, and it all becomes a moot point . |
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Originally Posted By Eight_Ring: Hey. At least they tried. Will the solid attempt stop the (bullshit) lawsuits? |
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Originally Posted By ARCNA442: Everyone celebrating is missing the point that this means glock and every glock clone will now continue to be sued into the ground. And the AR is next. |
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Originally Posted By DDDDCheapAF: For what ? They didnt manufacture the switches . Anything can be modified by anyone at any anytime. Sounds fucking retarded to me . Get rid of the NFA , it’s unconstitutional, and it all becomes a moot point . Originally Posted By DDDDCheapAF: Originally Posted By ARCNA442: Everyone celebrating is missing the point that this means glock and every glock clone will now continue to be sued into the ground. For what ? They didnt manufacture the switches . Anything can be modified by anyone at any anytime. Sounds fucking retarded to me . Get rid of the NFA , it’s unconstitutional, and it all becomes a moot point . You're missing the point. The goal is not to solve an actual problem related to crime. The goal is to do as much damage as possible to firearms manufacturers and the firearms industry. These "machine gun conversion device" lawsuits are the prevailing new tactic. I don't think there's a gun manufacturer large enough to fight all the hyenas on this one. Any company that gets singled out is going to get eaten. The industry and the lobby groups are going to have to rally for this fight. |
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Originally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy: And the AR is next. If they can force Glock to either make a new modification every few months OR get them banned from civvy sales, or sued out of business (unlikely and Glock Inc. will just focus on their massive over-seas sales) then "they" will come for other guns. There are probably anti-gun activists in basements trying to figure out easy mods to AR's AK'S etc. and to get them to "market" and get the litigation balls rolling. |
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Originally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy: And the AR is next. Originally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy: Originally Posted By ARCNA442: Everyone celebrating is missing the point that this means glock and every glock clone will now continue to be sued into the ground. And the AR is next. AR manufacturers should stop making products too. |
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Originally Posted By DDDDCheapAF: For what ? They didnt manufacture the switches . Anything can be modified by anyone at any anytime. Sounds fucking retarded to me . Get rid of the NFA , it’s unconstitutional, and it all becomes a moot point . Getting rid of the NFA would be great but I'm sure "they" will go in the opposite direction and try to ban semi autos... |
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Originally Posted By jaqufrost: IIRC, the V has a metal hump that will have to be removed for that to work. Looks like they just attached it to the slide and haven't modified the frame yet. To be fair, I think it could be done in ten minutes with a dremel. |
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