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Posted: 7/26/2022 5:29:17 PM EST
[#1]
Quoted: Typical government and big corporate lies Glyphosate gives you cancer and doesn’t kill weeds asap Diesel does not give you cancer and works right away Prove me I’m wrong Midcap has cranked up being obtuse to level 10 this past week. You’re smarter than this. Are you okay bud? Diesel absorbed through the skin is most definitely harmful. What’s your point again? |
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Posted: 7/26/2022 5:29:48 PM EST
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I sprayed some weeds with killz all Saturday they just now turning lighter Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Typical government and big corporate lies Glyphosate gives you cancer and doesn't kill weeds asap Diesel does not give you cancer and works right away Prove me I'm wrong I sprayed some weeds with killz all Saturday they just now turning lighter what type of weeds? Glyphosate doesn't kill broadleafs very well if that's what you sprayed. Did you use a surfactant? |
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Posted: 7/26/2022 5:32:58 PM EST
[#3]
Do you have some disability that prevents you from reading application instructions? Glyphosate absolutely kills the shit out of weeds and grass. Mix it properly and apply it at the right time of day.
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Posted: 7/26/2022 5:36:26 PM EST
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tractor supply has a 43% with some salt mixed in that works pretty well
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Posted: 7/26/2022 5:41:46 PM EST
[#5]
How about don't be lazy and just pull the weeds and not poison the earth.
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Posted: 7/26/2022 5:55:58 PM EST
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How about don't be lazy and just pull the weeds and not poison the earth.  You want to come pull acres of weeds then by all means bud. Come on over. |
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Posted: 7/26/2022 5:58:36 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How about don't be lazy and just pull the weeds and not poison the earth. Gonna need a chiropractor on standby 
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Posted: 7/26/2022 6:04:54 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't use ground water...do you see where I live? I literally get my water from the river Call me crazy, but I've heard that river water sometimes comes from.....the ground. |
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Posted: 7/26/2022 6:25:18 PM EST
[#9]
Quoted: Typical government and big corporate lies Glyphosate gives you cancer and doesn’t kill weeds asap Diesel does not give you cancer and works right away Prove me I’m wrong Wrong on all counts. Many agricultural plants can be sprayed with glyphosate and not be affected. It kills certain weeds like it’s supposed too and not more dangerous than many household products. Do any of that with diesel and get back to me. And sometimes I mix a little diesel with it as a suffocant, but you don’t have to. Diesel will kill certain trees, shrubbery, and flowers that is pretty safe with glyphosate if you know what you are doing. |
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Posted: 7/26/2022 6:36:14 PM EST
[#10]
LOL at anyone thinking diesel is less of a health risk than glyphosate.
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Posted: 7/26/2022 6:50:05 PM EST
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: According to CA, everything on the periodic table causes cancer. Yep. Fucking lumber carries their stupid warnings now. They will be out to put stickers on all the trees shortly, I'm sure. |
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Posted: 7/26/2022 6:57:59 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You want to come pull acres of weeds then by all means bud. Come on over. You should have had more kids! I use cover fabric and don't weed at all. I don't plant multiple acres though. |
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Posted: 7/27/2022 8:28:13 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: what type of weeds? Glyphosate doesn't kill broadleafs very well if that's what you sprayed. Did you use a surfactant? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Typical government and big corporate lies Glyphosate gives you cancer and doesn't kill weeds asap Diesel does not give you cancer and works right away Prove me I'm wrong I sprayed some weeds with killz all Saturday they just now turning lighter what type of weeds? Glyphosate doesn't kill broadleafs very well if that's what you sprayed. Did you use a surfactant? some poision ivy looking stuff and some tall ass crazy looking thing. They are all dying but it's taking a while |
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Posted: 7/27/2022 8:28:58 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Call me crazy, but I've heard that river water sometimes comes from.....the ground. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I don't use ground water...do you see where I live? I literally get my water from the river Call me crazy, but I've heard that river water sometimes comes from.....the ground. not here....the bayou is the highest part of the landscape. |
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Posted: 7/27/2022 8:29:26 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wrong on all counts. Many agricultural plants can be sprayed with glyphosate and not be affected. It kills certain weeds like it’s supposed too and not more dangerous than many household products. Do any of that with diesel and get back to me. And sometimes I mix a little diesel with it as a suffocant, but you don’t have to. Diesel will kill certain trees, shrubbery, and flowers that is pretty safe with glyphosate if you know what you are doing. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Typical government and big corporate lies Glyphosate gives you cancer and doesn’t kill weeds asap Diesel does not give you cancer and works right away Prove me I’m wrong Wrong on all counts. Many agricultural plants can be sprayed with glyphosate and not be affected. It kills certain weeds like it’s supposed too and not more dangerous than many household products. Do any of that with diesel and get back to me. And sometimes I mix a little diesel with it as a suffocant, but you don’t have to. Diesel will kill certain trees, shrubbery, and flowers that is pretty safe with glyphosate if you know what you are doing. I don't see people getting millions from diesel cancer |
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Posted: 7/27/2022 8:46:05 AM EST
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Why? Some pesticides are oil emulsifiable, and are even used with an oil carrier such as diesel fuel or kerosene. The state here uses such a pesticide combo to control vegetation along road banks Although applying diesel as a pesticide itself is a no no according to the pesticide school I attended  Quote HistoryQuoted: Originally Posted By -moses:If you get caught LDEQ is going to run a train on your ass, and deservedly so. Why? Some pesticides are oil emulsifiable, and are even used with an oil carrier such as diesel fuel or kerosene. The state here uses such a pesticide combo to control vegetation along road banks Although applying diesel as a pesticide itself is a no no according to the pesticide school I attended Big difference between seed oil and fuel oil. Read the label. If you’re not doing that, they can fine you. Spraying diesel in leu of glyphosate is not feasible for most things. |
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Posted: 7/27/2022 8:48:22 AM EST
[#17]
If you guys eat veggies and other foods from the store, you're eating food that has had glysophate sprayed all over it.
Just wanted to let you know that. |
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Posted: 7/27/2022 9:02:20 AM EST
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If you guys eat veggies and other foods from the store, you're eating food that has had glysophate sprayed all over it. Just wanted to let you know that. I don't eat veggies |
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Posted: 7/27/2022 9:03:29 AM EST
[#19]
Can confirm prices have gone insane. Last 2.5 gal of rm43 was around $110 at tractor supply. The one I bought 3 weeks ago was right over $140. Roundup works fine applied correctly but for my uses I prefer a little more persistent stuff. I do have some of the ‘nuke it forever’ sterilant but I’m awfully careful where
That gets used due to runoff concerns. |
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Posted: 7/27/2022 9:06:35 AM EST
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't eat veggies Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If you guys eat veggies and other foods from the store, you're eating food that has had glysophate sprayed all over it. Just wanted to let you know that. I don't eat veggies Lol, you're trolling right? Bread, pasta, cereal, cake, hell anything with floor or cornmeal... it all has glysophate in it |
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Posted: 7/27/2022 9:08:55 AM EST
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol, you're trolling right? Bread, pasta, cereal, cake, hell anything with floor or cornmeal... it all has glysophate in it Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: If you guys eat veggies and other foods from the store, you're eating food that has had glysophate sprayed all over it. Just wanted to let you know that. I don't eat veggies Lol, you're trolling right? Bread, pasta, cereal, cake, hell anything with floor or cornmeal... it all has glysophate in it damn 
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Posted: 7/27/2022 9:11:18 AM EST
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If you guys eat veggies and other foods from the store, you're eating food that has had glysophate sprayed all over it. Just wanted to let you know that. |
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Posted: 7/27/2022 9:21:26 AM EST
[#23]
The whole on-road/off-road diesel thing is far more of a scam than some weed killer.
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Posted: 7/27/2022 9:32:34 AM EST
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The whole on-road/off-road diesel thing is far more of a scam than some weed killer. it's the same exact stuff these days just dyed. |
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Posted: 7/27/2022 9:34:53 AM EST
[#25]
Quoted: Typical government and big corporate lies Glyphosate gives you cancer and doesn’t kill weeds asap Diesel does not give you cancer and works right away Prove me I’m wrong 8oz of 41% Glyphosate in a two gallon sprayer will smoke anything you spray it on except Marestail and Pigweed. |
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Posted: 7/27/2022 9:43:57 AM EST
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The evidence that Glyphosate causes cancer is highly suspect at very best. The evidence that diesel fuel in your groundwater is bad for you, is pretty solid. Choose wisely. Both will kill weeds. One will find its way into your water. The other quickly binds to soil particles and eventually breaks down. Groundwater in your diesel is also contraindicated. |
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Posted: 7/27/2022 9:50:27 AM EST
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No it doesn't! Glycophate kills pretty much anything green it touches. It is taken in through the leaves and distributed throughout the plant. It breaks down quickly in the soil. If they were spraying it on their crops, they would be killing their crops. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If you guys eat veggies and other foods from the store, you're eating food that has had glysophate sprayed all over it. Just wanted to let you know that. Dude, just about every soy, corn, canola, sugar beets, cotton, alfalfa, and wheat crop out there is RoundUp Ready. They spray it right on the crops. FDA even allows it in the food.... EPA has established tolerances for glyphosate on a wide range of human and animal food crops, including corn, soybean, oil seeds, grains, and some fruits and vegetables, ranging from 0.1 to 400 parts per million (ppm). https://www.fda.gov/food/pesticides/questions-and-answers-glyphosate#:~:text=EPA%20has%20established%20tolerances%20for,parts%20per%20million%20 |
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Posted: 7/27/2022 10:03:07 AM EST
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Groundwater in your diesel is also contraindicated.  You ain't wrong.
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Posted: 7/27/2022 6:14:37 PM EST
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Posted: 7/27/2022 9:57:46 PM EST
[#30]
BTT what are these satan's bush?
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Posted: 7/27/2022 10:22:16 PM EST
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 8oz of 41% Glyphosate in a two gallon sprayer will smoke anything you spray it on except Marestail and Pigweed. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Typical government and big corporate lies Glyphosate gives you cancer and doesn’t kill weeds asap Diesel does not give you cancer and works right away Prove me I’m wrong 8oz of 41% Glyphosate in a two gallon sprayer will smoke anything you spray it on except Marestail and Pigweed. And kochia, canada thistle, bindweed, etc, etc. Glyphosate ain't the kill-em-all chemical it used to be. Even at high rates (32+ oz/acre) it's not effective on certain weeds. |
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Posted: 7/28/2022 12:52:58 AM EST
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: And kochia, canada thistle, bindweed, etc, etc. Glyphosate ain't the kill-em-all chemical it used to be. Even at high rates (32+ oz/acre) it's not effective on certain weeds. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Typical government and big corporate lies Glyphosate gives you cancer and doesn’t kill weeds asap Diesel does not give you cancer and works right away Prove me I’m wrong 8oz of 41% Glyphosate in a two gallon sprayer will smoke anything you spray it on except Marestail and Pigweed. And kochia, canada thistle, bindweed, etc, etc. Glyphosate ain't the kill-em-all chemical it used to be. Even at high rates (32+ oz/acre) it's not effective on certain weeds. That’s why I am going to start doing a proprietary mix of glyphosate, 2-4-d, triclopyr butoxyethel ester, imazapyr and diesel |
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Posted: 7/28/2022 1:03:31 AM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How is it with nutsedge?  Sedgehammer |
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Posted: 7/28/2022 1:11:36 AM EST
[#34]
Quoted: Typical government and big corporate lies Glyphosate gives you cancer and doesn’t kill weeds asap Diesel does not give you cancer and works right away Prove me I’m wrong Glyphosate is very effective. At 2.5% it kills grass like bermuda. 5% for tougher weeds and 10% for tough woody weeds and poison ivy. You do need to watch the ph of the water- above 7.0 it will be less effective. If you need to burn down weeds fast add diquat but be aware that it can burn the plants down so fast that the glyphosate won’t have time to reach the roots and the weed will regrow. As with any herbicide the plant has to be actively growing. Also glyphosate attacks through the leaf. If the weed id cut before or immediately after it won’t be effective. |
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Posted: 7/28/2022 1:21:13 AM EST
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: tractor supply has a 43% with some salt mixed in that works pretty well I use the RM43 in the red jug. Seems to work better than the Farmworks Glyphosphate 41. I do miss the low cost of last year's price FJB |
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Posted: 7/28/2022 1:31:04 AM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If you have a Rural King in your area you can get Drexel concentrate for a better price....normally. I haven't bought any for a while, so I'm not sure what the current price is. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: i need a jug of glyphosate bad right now. just expensive as fuck. last year $35.00 for 2.5 gallons, this year $120.00 for 2.5 gallons. d-amine is $40 bucks and iv bought a couple jugs of that for killing weeds in our cow pasture, just the everything killer is super expensive right now. If you have a Rural King in your area you can get Drexel concentrate for a better price....normally. I haven't bought any for a while, so I'm not sure what the current price is. |
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Posted: 7/28/2022 1:33:08 AM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I had a field of soybeans/kochia that says otherwise. Hit hard with glyphosate, and did basically nothing. For every unique opponent, there is a proper weapon of destruction. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Glyphosate absolutely works. It kills weeds dead but needs time to kill the roots. There are chemical acids added to the formulation to do nothing more than brown and wilt the weeds. This is purely for the consumer to see something after a few hours and believe it’s working. This does not actually kill the entire weed nor roots. Insider. I had a field of soybeans/kochia that says otherwise. Hit hard with glyphosate, and did basically nothing. For every unique opponent, there is a proper weapon of destruction. Did you add a surfactant to it though? Otherwise, the glyphosate won't absorb into the leaf. |
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Posted: 7/28/2022 1:36:15 AM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How about don't be lazy and just pull the weeds and not poison the earth. Now we know how in this thread doesn't own acreage LOL. |
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Posted: 7/28/2022 1:41:36 AM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Did you add a surfactant to it though? Otherwise, the glyphosate won't absorb into the leaf. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Glyphosate absolutely works. It kills weeds dead but needs time to kill the roots. There are chemical acids added to the formulation to do nothing more than brown and wilt the weeds. This is purely for the consumer to see something after a few hours and believe it’s working. This does not actually kill the entire weed nor roots. Insider. I had a field of soybeans/kochia that says otherwise. Hit hard with glyphosate, and did basically nothing. For every unique opponent, there is a proper weapon of destruction. Did you add a surfactant to it though? Otherwise, the glyphosate won't absorb into the leaf. Lol, this ain't my first day on the job. https://www.winfieldunited.com/products/adjuvants/classactng/223 I hit it hard. Kochia is just a tough bastard. Certain kochia is also glyphosate resistant. https://cropwatch.unl.edu/2016/managing-glyphosate-and-als-resistant-kochia-panhandle ETA: For soybeans, we hit the field with a Pre-emerge chemical now. Lesson learned. |
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Posted: 7/28/2022 1:42:22 AM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That’s why I am going to start doing a proprietary mix of glyphosate, 2-4-d, triclopyr butoxyethel ester, imazapyr and diesel Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Typical government and big corporate lies Glyphosate gives you cancer and doesn’t kill weeds asap Diesel does not give you cancer and works right away Prove me I’m wrong 8oz of 41% Glyphosate in a two gallon sprayer will smoke anything you spray it on except Marestail and Pigweed. And kochia, canada thistle, bindweed, etc, etc. Glyphosate ain't the kill-em-all chemical it used to be. Even at high rates (32+ oz/acre) it's not effective on certain weeds. That’s why I am going to start doing a proprietary mix of glyphosate, 2-4-d, triclopyr butoxyethel ester, imazapyr and diesel “Proprietary” mix of diesel
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Posted: 7/28/2022 1:42:58 AM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol, this ain't my first day on the job. https://www.winfieldunited.com/products/adjuvants/classactng/223 I hit it hard. Kochia is just a tough bastard. Certain kochia is also glyphosate resistant. https://cropwatch.unl.edu/2016/managing-glyphosate-and-als-resistant-kochia-panhandle Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Glyphosate absolutely works. It kills weeds dead but needs time to kill the roots. There are chemical acids added to the formulation to do nothing more than brown and wilt the weeds. This is purely for the consumer to see something after a few hours and believe it’s working. This does not actually kill the entire weed nor roots. Insider. I had a field of soybeans/kochia that says otherwise. Hit hard with glyphosate, and did basically nothing. For every unique opponent, there is a proper weapon of destruction. Did you add a surfactant to it though? Otherwise, the glyphosate won't absorb into the leaf. Lol, this ain't my first day on the job. https://www.winfieldunited.com/products/adjuvants/classactng/223 I hit it hard. Kochia is just a tough bastard. Certain kochia is also glyphosate resistant. https://cropwatch.unl.edu/2016/managing-glyphosate-and-als-resistant-kochia-panhandle I knew you were in one of the Dakotas based on reading your posts prior to seeing location. And you are correct. |
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Posted: 7/28/2022 6:46:04 AM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: BTT what are these satan's bush? something you should have pulled by hand or dug up. |
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Posted: 7/28/2022 6:51:18 AM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: A flame thrower is better than both for immediate results. But are you going to take a flame thrower to your property? Fire is the absolute the best and you'd think would be a popular choice here. Instead people sprinkle toxic shit around and say it's doesn't cause problems. This is a fun site for weapons but retains an extremely high amount env & health idiots. |
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Posted: 7/28/2022 6:59:33 AM EST
[#44]
I was always told it is quite illegal to spray diesel, used motor oil, gas, etc... as a weed killer.
I suppose getting caught in the act would be the thing. However if someone wanted to fuck with you and some karen reported you, all it would take is a soil sample. Not sure what the fines/punishment would be. Probably depends on how much you sprayed. To me, not worth the risk. There is this stuff I get at lowes made by specracide, it works fast! Way faster than roundup. Hell they are usually wilting after a few hours in the sun. https://www.amazon.com/Spectracide-HG-96622-1-Weed-Grass-Killer/dp/B0773K7Z7M |
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Posted: 7/28/2022 7:00:48 AM EST
[#45]
What's a good soil sterilant? Something to use on sidewalk cracks, etc.
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Posted: 7/28/2022 7:12:55 AM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Glyphosate does work when applied properly, and may take a little longer to translocate throughout the plant depending on weather conditions then diesel fuel... but diesel fuel takes longer to break down in soil. Personally, I'd rather spray glyphosate around my property than diesel fuel. You want something to REALLY kill weeds quick?.. waste diesel engine oil. As far as the cancer lawsuits against Monsanto, I don't think glyphosate causes cancer. Get out of here. This thread is for folks who no nothing about the discussion |
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Posted: 7/28/2022 7:23:39 AM EST
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Posted: 7/28/2022 7:33:02 AM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: i need a jug of glyphosate bad right now. just expensive as fuck. last year $35.00 for 2.5 gallons, this year $120.00 for 2.5 gallons. d-amine is $40 bucks and iv bought a couple jugs of that for killing weeds in our cow pasture, just the everything killer is super expensive right now. I've been able to get all I wanted, got about 10 gallons left, 5 is 6# Envy. Prices similar, for the normal 4#, $48 a gallon this year was $18 last, IIRC. |
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Posted: 7/28/2022 7:35:57 AM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What's a good soil sterilant? Something to use on sidewalk cracks, etc. RM43 is available at Tractor Supply and Rural King. It will work for 6 months to a year. Similar active ingredients to RoundUp 365 but cheaper. |
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Posted: 7/28/2022 7:41:26 AM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Glyphosate absolutely works. It kills weeds dead but needs time to kill the roots. There are chemical acids added to the formulation to do nothing more than brown and wilt the weeds. This is purely for the consumer to see something after a few hours and believe it’s working. This does not actually kill the entire weed nor roots. Insider. bwwaaahaaaaahaaaaaa, oh lord that is funny glyphosate resistance is such a thing that this year I didn't even use it (sprayed 900 gallons of it last year tank mixed with other stuff) |
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