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Posted: 7/14/2017 1:28:45 PM EDT
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Didn't he get a big ol' catfish? I cannot remember but did they test the radioactive-ness of the catfish? I was hoping he would catch something like the 3 eyed fish from The Simpsons. |
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Posted: 7/14/2017 1:31:18 PM EDT
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GODDAMNIT COMRADE! RIDE ON THE SIDEWALK! YOU'R FUCKING UP RUSH HOUR!
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Posted: 7/14/2017 1:44:04 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/14/2017 1:49:53 PM EDT
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Pripyat is where the good pictures are at. Street view zombie like area. If it wasn't for my dick falling off, I would love to be there running around. |
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Posted: 7/14/2017 1:54:37 PM EDT
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Why does every home have a wall or fence around it? Are they keeping the neighbors out? Invaders? Cossacks? Huns? |
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Posted: 7/14/2017 2:09:26 PM EDT
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There are only a few place, indoor areas, that are dangerous to visit. It still would increase long term risk of cancer to live there. No problem driving or hiking the area. People are so uneducated about nukes and radiation. A lot of the short stuff should be way down it has gone through multiple half-lives. Most of the really long stuff is not all that dangerous anyway. Thinks like Cesium and Iodine are especially dangerous because the body needs them and they have relatively short half-lives. Goiter is treated by giving patients radioactive Iodine to kill off some of the tissue. I was a 'Radiation Worker' for many years. We tested parts (electronics and even materials) at cyclotrons using both heavy ions and protons. Never had a dosimeter register more than 'trace' despite activating a lot of parts with protons. We used to make Co60 in the iron in part leads all the time. IUCF has cabinets of parts sitting around 'cooling off' from testing. 60 27Co ? 60 28Ni + e- + ? e + gamma rays with a half life of 5.2714 years. The cross section to make Fe into 60Co is very small but when you deliver mega-rads of 200 MeV protons to some iron you make some 60Co. It does not take all that much of a HEPA mask to provide good radiation daughter protection but we still rarely used them. Let the 20 minute (and less) half life stuff go at least on life (20 minute) and check with a Geiger counter in both modes. If you need to measure on an 'active' part shielding works (lead brick are about 35 pounds each) and then control the equipment from another room (with a walls of lead bricks around the 'cooling room'). Every cyclotron has an area to allow targets to cool. Always handle it at arms length and put it in the radiation shield bag as fast as you can after making sure the does rate is low enough. ALARA = As Low As Reasonably Achievable |
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Posted: 7/14/2017 2:14:23 PM EDT
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I just noticed that they have street views. How the fuck did they get street views is a guy riding in the Google car crazy? After the accident they didn't close the nuke plant, the other reactors continued to run, complete with human beings working at the facility. People in general dont understand radioactivity, half life, dose etc. |
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Posted: 7/14/2017 2:16:42 PM EDT
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I didn't know they had rednecks in Russia. I need to go visit my brethren |
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Posted: 7/14/2017 2:32:49 PM EDT
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A worker must have been taking pictures of the sarcophagus while they were getting ready to put it over reactor 4...pretty cool picture.
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Posted: 7/14/2017 2:54:17 PM EDT
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My understanding is that people still work there, and the radiation is mostly only dangerous inside the sarcophagus. I can't grasp the nature of radiation, and I wouldn't trust anyone who told me that it was safe. Lots of people do have complete faith in science, and trust that spending eight hours a day there won't give them cancer by the time they are 40... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I just noticed that they have street views. How the fuck did they get street views is a guy riding in the Google car crazy? |
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Posted: 7/14/2017 2:55:53 PM EDT
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I just noticed that they have street views. How the fuck did they get street views is a guy riding in the Google car crazy? |
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Posted: 7/14/2017 3:02:32 PM EDT
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From what I remember from one of the more in depth documentaries, there are only two "dangerous hot areas" areas in Pripyat. Inside the sarcophagus itself, and the room in the basement of the hospital where the power plant firefighters gear was dumped on the night of the disaster.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LN2V4DsP0shttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiotrophic_fungus |
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Posted: 7/14/2017 3:36:57 PM EDT
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Interestingly enough, they've discovered a radiotrophic fungus growing inside the sarcophagus. It converts gamma radiation to energy via melanin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiotrophic_fungus Quote HistoryQuoted:
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From what I remember from one of the more in depth documentaries, there are only two "dangerous hot areas" areas in Pripyat. Inside the sarcophagus itself, and the room in the basement of the hospital where the power plant firefighters gear was dumped on the night of the disaster. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LN2V4DsP0shttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiotrophic_fungus 
Now that has potential |
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Posted: 7/14/2017 4:03:26 PM EDT
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Found a cool mural:
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Posted: 7/14/2017 5:05:28 PM EDT
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I'd go. I think Prip'yat would be awesome to visit. |
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Posted: 7/14/2017 5:15:11 PM EDT
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Here's a monument to the clean-up crew I presume:
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Posted: 7/14/2017 5:35:35 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/14/2017 5:41:32 PM EDT
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 Attached FileI wanna go in here |
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Posted: 7/14/2017 5:53:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryI seent it
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Posted: 7/14/2017 5:56:20 PM EDT
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Nice picture
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Posted: 7/14/2017 5:59:40 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/14/2017 6:01:11 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/14/2017 6:03:33 PM EDT
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How bad is the radiation now? ... Reactor Number 4 today is essentially an unplanned nuclear-waste dump. To serve in that role requires it to last for 3,000 years. That means the area surrounding Chernobyl will be safe to inhabit by people again in the year 4986. ... |
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Posted: 7/14/2017 6:15:46 PM EDT
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From what I remember from one of the more in depth documentaries, there are only two "dangerous hot areas" areas in Pripyat. Inside the sarcophagus itself, and the room in the basement of the hospital where the power plant firefighters gear was dumped on the night of the disaster. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LN2V4DsP0sQuote HistoryQuoted:
From what I remember from one of the more in depth documentaries, there are only two "dangerous hot areas" areas in Pripyat. Inside the sarcophagus itself, and the room in the basement of the hospital where the power plant firefighters gear was dumped on the night of the disaster. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LN2V4DsP0sQuoted:
Thorium reactors are where it's at but anything with the word reactor in it scares people now thanks to massive fuck ups like those above. |
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Posted: 7/14/2017 6:17:46 PM EDT
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How bad is the radiation now? It's from 2 years ago: [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRL7o2kPqw0[/youtube] In comparison, 1 hour in Fukukushima is about 10 microsieverts. Pripyat Hospital in the Ukraine where the Chernobyl firefighters went after the meltdown... in one section they have 500 microsieverts - almost 30 years later.
(FYI, normal background radiation is about microsievert per hour). So while outdoor locations are safer, there's still areas where you have to suit up before going inside. |
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Posted: 7/14/2017 6:18:40 PM EDT
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Yeah. Hiking along and kick up a ton of radiation. Sounds like fun. |
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Posted: 7/14/2017 6:19:50 PM EDT
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Special High Risk Unit they use for Detroit and Flint. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I just noticed that they have street views. How the fuck did they get street views is a guy riding in the Google car crazy? |
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Posted: 7/14/2017 6:20:06 PM EDT
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The pics OP posted aren't showing for me. Maybe I need to reboot...  |
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Posted: 7/14/2017 7:44:08 PM EDT
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How long does the sarcophagus last, and how long will the "Elephant's foot" be deadly to humans?
Kicking the can down the road... 
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Posted: 7/14/2017 7:52:37 PM EDT
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IIRC other reactors at the plant still operated until a few years ago.
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Posted: 7/14/2017 8:03:00 PM EDT
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What is this elephant foot that you people are talking about?
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Posted: 7/14/2017 8:11:05 PM EDT
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I toured the area last year. Radiation in the city of Chernobyl is lower than most would think. I averaged around 80-100 CPM with an LND 7317 pancake tube. Background radiation around ChNPP and Pripyat is noticeably higher, but not much worse than what you'd be exposed to on a transatlantic flight. Just walking around I saw readings from 200 to 3,500 CPM. There's still a lot of contaminated stuff laying around, though. Moss reads around 6,000 CPM. I had readings over 350,000 CPM from earth moving equipment used during the clean up. Some clothing in one of the hospitals also exceeded 350k.
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Posted: 7/14/2017 8:29:00 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/14/2017 9:09:07 PM EDT
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What is this elephant foot that you people are talking about? Corium is the name given to agglomerated melted down core material from a nuclear reactor. In this case, its probably a combination of fuel elements, graphite/carbon, as well as various fractions of steel, concrete, and other debris it picked up on its path through the building. Immediately after the accident, the radiation level emanating from the material was very high due to the concentration of spent fuel from the reactor core. |
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Posted: 7/14/2017 9:20:02 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/15/2017 8:29:33 AM EDT
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Current reactor design is stupid and should be scrapped. Thorium reactors are where it's at but anything with the word reactor in it scares people now thanks to massive fuck ups like those above. Unfortunately those incidents have ruined nuclear power like GM ruined diesel cars in the 80's. |
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Posted: 7/15/2017 9:01:03 AM EDT
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Ever been to South America? |
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Posted: 7/15/2017 9:58:11 AM EDT
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How bad is the radiation now? |
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Posted: 7/15/2017 10:45:26 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/15/2017 1:05:29 PM EDT
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How long does the sarcophagus last The NSC is quite an engineering feat. and how long will the "Elephant's foot" be deadly to humans? |
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Posted: 7/15/2017 1:09:55 PM EDT
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Thanks Russia. We could have basically unlimited power by now...but you had to go fuck it up and scare American idiots. Somewhere sitting in a hospital dehydrated is a man with an answer, is my guess. |
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Posted: 7/15/2017 1:48:02 PM EDT
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My understanding is that people still work there, and the radiation is mostly only dangerous inside the sarcophagus. I can't grasp the nature of radiation, and I wouldn't trust anyone who told me that it was safe. Lots of people do have complete faith in science, and trust that spending eight hours a day there won't give them cancer by the time they are 40... Quote HistoryQuoted:
My understanding is that people still work there, and the radiation is mostly only dangerous inside the sarcophagus. I can't grasp the nature of radiation, and I wouldn't trust anyone who told me that it was safe. Lots of people do have complete faith in science, and trust that spending eight hours a day there won't give them cancer by the time they are 40... Quoted:
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Yeah. Hiking along and kick up a ton of radiation. Sounds like fun. Don't be a dumbass and it's mostly fine. |
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