[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Governor Perry Signs Pro-Gun Bills (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 6/19/2011 8:56:29 AM EDT
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# 1 Bill Passed. SB 321 by Rep. Tim Kleinschmidt (R-Lexington) and Sen. Glenn Hegar, Jr. (R-Katy) protects the jobs of hard-working Texans wanting a firearm in their vehicle for the commute to and from their workplace.
SB 321 was signed today! # 2 Bill Passed. SB 766 by Rep. Jason Isaac (R-Dripping Springs) and Sen. Craig Estes (R-Wichita Falls) protects Texas shooting ranges from frivolous lawsuits and undeserved harassment by neighbors and developers. SB 766 was signed today! Thank you, Texas Legislature and thank you, Governor Perry! From: https://www.tsra.com/ Run, Rick, run. 
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# 1 Bill Passed. SB 321 by Rep. Tim Kleinschmidt (R-Lexington) and Sen. Glenn Hegar, Jr. (R-Katy) protects the jobs of hard-working Texans wanting a firearm in their vehicle for the commute to and from their workplace. SB 321 was signed today! # 2 Bill Passed. SB 766 by Rep. Jason Isaac (R-Dripping Springs) and Sen. Craig Estes (R-Wichita Falls) protects Texas shooting ranges from frivolous lawsuits and undeserved harassment by neighbors and developers. SB 766 was signed today! Thank you, Texas Legislature and thank you, Governor Perry! From: https://www.tsra.com/ Run, Rick, run.
Does #321 have some loophole that would allow companies (USG contractors in particular) to prohibit a forearm in your vehicle? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
| I know a guy who would have been protected under SB321 who got canned from a job because of a 'suspected' firearm in his car - the IT guys found an email he sent to another employee basically saying "yeah, I picked it up at lunch, we can go to the range tonight". |
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Nice, I REALLY wish we had a law like that here in Michigan.
Due to my career there are many time when I'm in a weapons free zone that includes a stupid parking lot where I have no other choice, but to park and as a consequence can't carry concealed even though licensed to do so that day. Real PITA especially since I've very responsible and always secure my pistol in a lock box when I can't or don't want to carry it outside the vehicle. |
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Yeah, I could vote for Perry.....Outside of another prominent republican he has the goods, fundraising ability and record to win. Problem for him is the dems will be able to link him to Bush 43, not sure at this point that would work but it's a concern. Who cares? Not trying to be an asshole here, just saying the left will always be in attack mode no matter who we field as a candidate (unless said candidate is a "moderate" like McCain  ). In fact, the more the left attacks a GOP candidate, the more I like him.
Bush was viciously attacked every single day for eight years, yet he was reelected in '04 if that tells you how much the voting public cares about the rantings of the left. |
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Quoted: You HAVE to care if you want any chance of winning an election, if the left paints him as being too right then the moderates/independents will jump ship and you need those people to win an election. Quoted: Yeah, I could vote for Perry.....Outside of another prominent republican he has the goods, fundraising ability and record to win. Problem for him is the dems will be able to link him to Bush 43, not sure at this point that would work but it's a concern. Who cares? Not trying to be an asshole here, just saying the left will always be in attack mode no matter who we field as a candidate (unless said candidate is a "moderate" like McCain ). In fact, the more the left attacks a GOP candidate, the more I like him. Bush was viciously attacked every single day for eight years, yet he was reelected in '04 if that tells you how much the voting public cares about the rantings of the left. Bush had some of the highest approval ratings and the left didn't attack too hard from 00'-04'. 04'-08' was an entirely different story. |
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Quoted: # 1 Bill Passed. SB 321 by Rep. Tim Kleinschmidt (R-Lexington) and Sen. Glenn Hegar, Jr. (R-Katy) protects the jobs of hard-working Texans wanting a firearm in their vehicle for the commute to and from their workplace. SB 321 was signed today! # 2 Bill Passed. SB 766 by Rep. Jason Isaac (R-Dripping Springs) and Sen. Craig Estes (R-Wichita Falls) protects Texas shooting ranges from frivolous lawsuits and undeserved harassment by neighbors and developers. SB 766 was signed today! Thank you, Texas Legislature and thank you, Governor Perry! From: https://www.tsra.com/ Run, Rick, run. I wish I could do that. Definite downside to working on a federal base.  |
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You HAVE to care if you want any chance of winning an election, if the left paints him as being too right then the moderates/independents will jump ship and you need those people to win an election.
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Yeah, I could vote for Perry.....Outside of another prominent republican he has the goods, fundraising ability and record to win. Problem for him is the dems will be able to link him to Bush 43, not sure at this point that would work but it's a concern. Who cares? Not trying to be an asshole here, just saying the left will always be in attack mode no matter who we field as a candidate (unless said candidate is a "moderate" like McCain ). In fact, the more the left attacks a GOP candidate, the more I like him.
Bush was viciously attacked every single day for eight years, yet he was reelected in '04 if that tells you how much the voting public cares about the rantings of the left. Bush had some of the highest approval ratings and the left didn't attack too hard from 00'-04'. 04'-08' was an entirely different story. At this point, the voting public isn't going to be concerned whether the MSM approves of our candidate or not. The independents-like everyone else-will be voting their wallets. Obama has lost their support. This election is ours to lose, and the only way you're going to excite the conservative base of the GOP is to nominate a conservative candidate. The last time we tried the "moderate" scenario we lost, and for good reason. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Getting better but Texas still has pretty bad gun laws. Since Reconstruction. In order to keep guns out of the hands of certain people. Seriously, you guys have had a LOT of time to fix that. I'm not trying to bust balls here, but the Texans on this board are always going on about what a Free State Texas is. Why haven't the laws been changed by now? |
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Getting better but Texas still has pretty bad gun laws. Since Reconstruction. In order to keep guns out of the hands of certain people. Seriously, you guys have had a LOT of time to fix that. I'm not trying to bust balls here, but the Texans on this board are always going on about what a Free State Texas is. Why haven't the laws been changed by now? It would require a new Texas constitution |
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You HAVE to care if you want any chance of winning an election, if the left paints him as being too right then the moderates/independents will jump ship and you need those people to win an election.
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Yeah, I could vote for Perry.....Outside of another prominent republican he has the goods, fundraising ability and record to win. Problem for him is the dems will be able to link him to Bush 43, not sure at this point that would work but it's a concern. Who cares? Not trying to be an asshole here, just saying the left will always be in attack mode no matter who we field as a candidate (unless said candidate is a "moderate" like McCain ). In fact, the more the left attacks a GOP candidate, the more I like him.
Bush was viciously attacked every single day for eight years, yet he was reelected in '04 if that tells you how much the voting public cares about the rantings of the left. Bush had some of the highest approval ratings and the left didn't attack too hard from 00'-04'. 04'-08' was an entirely different story. No, you guys are missing my point. I'm talking about the image of Perry, accent, from TX, Gov of TX, etc, not his policies. Yes I agree the dems will attack anyone they view as a serious threat to Obama, case in point is Bachmann/Palin/TPaw/etc. As a sidenote, notice how Romney gets a pass? Wonder why? /sarc. Perry has a great record to run on from an economy point of view, my only suggestion is he let up on that 'social conservitivism' message a bit; not that I don't agree but it will turn off more voters than attract. Besides those issues are for states anyway, hope he doesn't fall into the hypocrite trap there. Unless Palin throws her hat into the ring, the nomination is Perry's for the taking IMO. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Quoted: Really? That is fucked up. Maybe you need to do that. Assuming that there is the political power there to keep the good stuff and get rid of the bad stuff. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Getting better but Texas still has pretty bad gun laws. Since Reconstruction. In order to keep guns out of the hands of certain people. Seriously, you guys have had a LOT of time to fix that. I'm not trying to bust balls here, but the Texans on this board are always going on about what a Free State Texas is. Why haven't the laws been changed by now? It would require a new Texas constitution |
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Bush won in 04 because Kerry disgusted them. America is a center right country, not right or far right. I would hardly call ANY candidate-declared or otherwise-"far right". That's the MSM beating that bullshit into our heads. They've packaged (or tried to, anyway) a Marxist who openly advocates "spreading the wealth" into a Reagan-like "conservative". 
We're in a depression, and people are out of work in numbers not seen since the 1930s. If it weren't for food stamps, UI, and other programs to keep people from starving, there'd be riots in the streets by now. Housing construction, home foreclosures, collapsing real estate values, unemployment, underemployment, etc., all affect people that are desperate for a solution. The liberals don't have it, and the "moderates" don't motivate the base to vote. We've had that twice three times since 1992, and it doesn't work out for us. Ever. |
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Getting better but Texas still has pretty bad gun laws. Since Reconstruction. In order to keep guns out of the hands of certain people. Seriously, you guys have had a LOT of time to fix that. I'm not trying to bust balls here, but the Texans on this board are always going on about what a Free State Texas is. Why haven't the laws been changed by now? I'm yawning....I'm yawning some more............ No shit...I wish they would keep to their home town forum with this crap. They can wake me up when they get open-carry. I guess that is their thinly veiled attempt to carry Dem turned RINO Perry's water for him. 
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Quoted: # 1 Bill Passed. SB 321 by Rep. Tim Kleinschmidt (R-Lexington) and Sen. Glenn Hegar, Jr. (R-Katy) protects the jobs of hard-working Texans wanting a firearm in their vehicle for the commute to and from their workplace. SB 321 was signed today! Excellent news. However, isn't the same Oklahoma law still tied up in the courts? |
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You HAVE to care if you want any chance of winning an election, if the left paints him as being too right then the moderates/independents will jump ship and you need those people to win an election.
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Yeah, I could vote for Perry.....Outside of another prominent republican he has the goods, fundraising ability and record to win. Problem for him is the dems will be able to link him to Bush 43, not sure at this point that would work but it's a concern. Who cares? Not trying to be an asshole here, just saying the left will always be in attack mode no matter who we field as a candidate (unless said candidate is a "moderate" like McCain ). In fact, the more the left attacks a GOP candidate, the more I like him.
Bush was viciously attacked every single day for eight years, yet he was reelected in '04 if that tells you how much the voting public cares about the rantings of the left. Bush had some of the highest approval ratings and the left didn't attack too hard from 00'-04'. 04'-08' was an entirely different story. No, you guys are missing my point. I'm talking about the image of Perry, accent, from TX, Gov of TX, etc, not his policies. Yes I agree the dems will attack anyone they view as a serious threat to Obama, case in point is Bachmann/Palin/TPaw/etc. As a sidenote, notice how Romney gets a pass? Wonder why? /sarc. Perry has a great record to run on from an economy point of view, my only suggestion is he let up on that 'social conservitivism' message a bit; not that I don't agree but it will turn off more voters than attract. Besides those issues are for states anyway, hope he doesn't fall into the hypocrite trap there. Unless Palin throws her hat into the ring, the nomination is Perry's for the taking IMO. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I agree with most of your post, especially the highlighted part. I don't believe however, any GOP candidate should run away from a message of social conservatism. Voters want to know where a candidate stands. If Gov. Perry proclaimed himself a social conservative running as a gubernatorial candidate in Texas, then he needs to stand by his principles and quite acting like every other slimy politician that'll say anything to get elected [cough] Romney [cough/]. Social conservatives have more influence and power than anyone on ARFCOM GD will ever admit. |
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# 2 Bill Passed. SB 766 by Rep. Jason Isaac (R-Dripping Springs) and Sen. Craig Estes (R-Wichita Falls) protects Texas shooting ranges from frivolous lawsuits and undeserved harassment by neighbors and developers. We have had one like this in Florida for a few years now and it is great. Glad to hear you have it now. |
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Quoted: Quoted: # 1 Bill Passed. SB 321 by Rep. Tim Kleinschmidt (R-Lexington) and Sen. Glenn Hegar, Jr. (R-Katy) protects the jobs of hard-working Texans wanting a firearm in their vehicle for the commute to and from their workplace. SB 321 was signed today! # 2 Bill Passed. SB 766 by Rep. Jason Isaac (R-Dripping Springs) and Sen. Craig Estes (R-Wichita Falls) protects Texas shooting ranges from frivolous lawsuits and undeserved harassment by neighbors and developers. SB 766 was signed today! Thank you, Texas Legislature and thank you, Governor Perry! From: https://www.tsra.com/ Run, Rick, run. Does #321 have some loophole that would allow companies (USG contractors in particular) to prohibit a forearm in your vehicle? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I read the text of the bill (http://www.legis.state.tx.us/BillLookup/Text.aspx?LegSess=82R&Bill=SB321) trying to figure that out. There doesn't seem to be anything specific about that in the bill, but it does say that the new law will not allow people to have firearms and ammunition in a location where it is already outlawed by other state and federal laws. |
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Bush won in 04 because Kerry disgusted them. America is a center right country, not right or far right. A center right nation does not elect a Marxist to the big chair. A stupid nation does.... Voters are idiots. This has been true since Athens at least. Still this is a center right nation. |
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You HAVE to care if you want any chance of winning an election, if the left paints him as being too right then the moderates/independents will jump ship and you need those people to win an election.
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Yeah, I could vote for Perry.....Outside of another prominent republican he has the goods, fundraising ability and record to win. Problem for him is the dems will be able to link him to Bush 43, not sure at this point that would work but it's a concern. Who cares? Not trying to be an asshole here, just saying the left will always be in attack mode no matter who we field as a candidate (unless said candidate is a "moderate" like McCain ). In fact, the more the left attacks a GOP candidate, the more I like him.
Bush was viciously attacked every single day for eight years, yet he was reelected in '04 if that tells you how much the voting public cares about the rantings of the left. Bush had some of the highest approval ratings and the left didn't attack too hard from 00'-04'. 04'-08' was an entirely different story. No, you guys are missing my point. I'm talking about the image of Perry, accent, from TX, Gov of TX, etc, not his policies. Yes I agree the dems will attack anyone they view as a serious threat to Obama, case in point is Bachmann/Palin/TPaw/etc. As a sidenote, notice how Romney gets a pass? Wonder why? /sarc. Perry has a great record to run on from an economy point of view, my only suggestion is he let up on that 'social conservitivism' message a bit; not that I don't agree but it will turn off more voters than attract. Besides those issues are for states anyway, hope he doesn't fall into the hypocrite trap there. Unless Palin throws her hat into the ring, the nomination is Perry's for the taking IMO. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I agree with most of your post, especially the highlighted part. I don't believe however, any GOP candidate should run away from a message of social conservatism. Voters want to know where a candidate stands. If Gov. Perry proclaimed himself a social conservative running as a gubernatorial candidate in Texas, then he needs to stand by his principles and quite acting like every other slimy politician that'll say anything to get elected [cough] Romney [cough/]. Social conservatives have more influence and power than anyone on ARFCOM GD will ever admit. Yes but social conservatives would vote for Perry over Obama anyway. My point is to not emphasize it as it gives the left ammo to gin up people worried over 'bible-thumpers.' Societal changes should occur at the cultrual level, not forced government policies. I'll use abortion as an example, the majority of voters don't support partial-birth so that kind of limit is acceptable by most; same goes for guardian notification for minors. Pushing for more alienates voters quickly so why do it when it hurts your ability to work on the larger issues? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Quoted: The Texas constitution is one of the most convoluted things you have ever seen. Amendments have to be voted on by the general public and pass by a certain margin (2/3 I think) before it can be added. A Con-Con, be it for a state or the US constitution, is playing with fire in these political times.Quoted: Really? That is fucked up. Maybe you need to do that. Assuming that there is the political power there to keep the good stuff and get rid of the bad stuff. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Getting better but Texas still has pretty bad gun laws. Since Reconstruction. In order to keep guns out of the hands of certain people. Seriously, you guys have had a LOT of time to fix that. I'm not trying to bust balls here, but the Texans on this board are always going on about what a Free State Texas is. Why haven't the laws been changed by now? It would require a new Texas constitution |
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Getting better but Texas still has pretty bad gun laws. Since Reconstruction. In order to keep guns out of the hands of certain people. Seriously, you guys have had a LOT of time to fix that. I'm not trying to bust balls here, but the Texans on this board are always going on about what a Free State Texas is. Why haven't the laws been changed by now? It would require a new Texas constitution Dude, the State constitution is amended almost every single election. There's a constitutional amendment on the upcoming ballot that would legalize perpetual tolls, tho I guarantee you it won't say that in it's ballot synopsis. If I haven't read about an Amendment beforehand and know EXACTLY what's in it, I vote NO without hesitation. |
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IT DON'T MATTER NONE! THAT RINO SUMBITCH TRIED TO BUILD A FREEWAY AND FORCE GIRLS TO GET VACCINATED AGAINST THE FASTEST SPREADING VENEREAL DISEASE IN A STATE WITH THE HIGHEST RATE OF TEEN PREGNANCY, AND HE WAS AT THE BILDERBERG MEETIN'! TO TOP IT OFF, HE AIN'T DONE NOTHIN' 'BOUT THE BORDER 'CEPT FER STATION THE NATIONAL GUARD DOWN THERE AND SET UP AN ENFORCEMENT SQUAD WITH TEXAS RANGERS AND DPS, AND HE CRITICIZED THE ARIZONA LAW WHICH GOT STRUCK DOWN IN FEDERAL COURT! IF YOU WANT 'MERICA TURNED OVER TO MEXICO THEN GO AHEAD AND VOTE FER GOVERNOR GOOD HAIR! |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: The public doesn't want a socially conservative President. They want someone to fix the economy. They want both, if they can get it. You're not voting for the President of Texas. In the 2004 election social issues were polled as the most important and the reason Bush won a second term. Yes, they are now overshadowed by the economic disaster but the people would still rather have a moderate social conservative than a liberal. Perry fits with this desire. |
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IT DON'T MATTER NONE! THAT RINO SUMBITCH TRIED TO BUILD A FREEWAY AND FORCE GIRLS TO GET VACCINATED AGAINST THE FASTEST SPREADING VENEREAL DISEASE IN A STATE WITH THE HIGHEST RATE OF TEEN PREGNANCY, AND HE WAS AT THE BILDERBERG MEETIN'! TO TOP IT OFF, HE AIN'T DONE NOTHIN' 'BOUT THE BORDER 'CEPT FER STATION THE NATIONAL GUARD DOWN THERE AND SET UP AN ENFORCEMENT SQUAD WITH TEXAS RANGERS AND DPS, AND HE CRITICIZED THE ARIZONA LAW WHICH GOT STRUCK DOWN IN FEDERAL COURT! IF YOU WANT 'MERICA TURNED OVER TO MEXICO THEN GO AHEAD AND VOTE FER GOVERNOR GOOD HAIR! Perry is an acceptable compromise to alot of people (including me), but the die-hard acolyte "win them over with aqua regia to the face" technique isn't very appealing. I wonder if you think you're actually convincing anyone to vote for him with this shtick? |
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Quoted: Quoted: IT DON'T MATTER NONE! THAT RINO SUMBITCH TRIED TO BUILD A FREEWAY AND FORCE GIRLS TO GET VACCINATED AGAINST THE FASTEST SPREADING VENEREAL DISEASE IN A STATE WITH THE HIGHEST RATE OF TEEN PREGNANCY, AND HE WAS AT THE BILDERBERG MEETIN'! TO TOP IT OFF, HE AIN'T DONE NOTHIN' 'BOUT THE BORDER 'CEPT FER STATION THE NATIONAL GUARD DOWN THERE AND SET UP AN ENFORCEMENT SQUAD WITH TEXAS RANGERS AND DPS, AND HE CRITICIZED THE ARIZONA LAW WHICH GOT STRUCK DOWN IN FEDERAL COURT! IF YOU WANT 'MERICA TURNED OVER TO MEXICO THEN GO AHEAD AND VOTE FER GOVERNOR GOOD HAIR! Perry is an acceptable compromise to alot of people (including me), but the die-hard acolyte "win them over with aqua regia to the face" technique isn't very appealing. I wonder if you think you're actually convincing anyone to vote for him with this shtick? There is only ONE candidate who is RIGHT on the ISSUES.  |
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Quoted: Quoted: IT DON'T MATTER NONE! THAT RINO SUMBITCH TRIED TO BUILD A FREEWAY AND FORCE GIRLS TO GET VACCINATED AGAINST THE FASTEST SPREADING VENEREAL DISEASE IN A STATE WITH THE HIGHEST RATE OF TEEN PREGNANCY, AND HE WAS AT THE BILDERBERG MEETIN'! TO TOP IT OFF, HE AIN'T DONE NOTHIN' 'BOUT THE BORDER 'CEPT FER STATION THE NATIONAL GUARD DOWN THERE AND SET UP AN ENFORCEMENT SQUAD WITH TEXAS RANGERS AND DPS, AND HE CRITICIZED THE ARIZONA LAW WHICH GOT STRUCK DOWN IN FEDERAL COURT! IF YOU WANT 'MERICA TURNED OVER TO MEXICO THEN GO AHEAD AND VOTE FER GOVERNOR GOOD HAIR! Perry is an acceptable compromise to alot of people (including me), but the die-hard acolyte "win them over with aqua regia to the face" technique isn't very appealing. I wonder if you think you're actually convincing anyone to vote for him with this shtick? The folks who need convincing will never be convinced. I'm just making fun of them. |
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Getting better but Texas still has pretty bad gun laws. what BAD gun laws does Texas have? oh, no open carry so all Texas gun laws suck, but wait, there arent any other gun laws. do you even have a clue what you are talking about? there is ONE and only ONE gun law in Texas and it deals with the wearing of arms. thats it, all other gun laws are illegal for the Tx legs to write/pass. all other gun laws down here are federal. |