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12/14/2006 11:28:36 AM EDT
Anyone notice an improvement in visual and or audio when using an HDMI cable as opposed to Component Video + Audio Cables?
12/14/2006 11:31:40 AM EDT
[#1]
No.

I know the it's all digital when you use HDMI but I was having some glitches so I just went with component cables and the fibre audio connection.  

ETA I think I know what my original problem was but haven't bothered to switch back.
12/14/2006 11:32:51 AM EDT
[#2]
Yes. You don't get the full HD "experience" using component cables. When you have the perfect setup - a HDTV, and either an XBOX 360 (playing HD-DVD) or a PS3 (playing Blu-Ray) then you never want to watch a movie any other way ever again. It truly is mind-blowing - the clarity and everything...

But if you're just watching regular DVD's or whatever, then no, not a huge difference...
12/14/2006 11:33:18 AM EDT
[#3]
That I can tell?  Nope.

The real benefit of HDMI is that the signal stays digital the whole path up to the TV, thus eliminating one digital to analogue (sp) conversion and one analogue to digital conversion.
12/14/2006 11:37:05 AM EDT
[#4]
HDMI all the way.  Easy to deal with and gives you a true digital signal for the best picture.  Just stay away from cheap cables.  Most complaints I know of come from poor quality cables.
12/14/2006 11:38:35 AM EDT
[#5]
It seems to depend a lot on the actual compnents being hooked up, as not all the hadware is created equal.  So just becuase "Joe's" TV looked better with component cables over HDMI cables or DVI, doesn't exactly mean that you will experinece the same thing, and vice versa.


HDMI is becoming much more common though now on components, and the single cord versus the multiple cords is very handy, and in most situations will offer a slightly better picture over component, but that's not to say that it would even be noticed by most non videophiles.
12/14/2006 11:42:49 AM EDT
[#6]
hdmi gives you true digital audio. not even dvi does that.
12/14/2006 11:44:06 AM EDT
[#7]
I tried HDMI and couldn't detect any difference.  Keep in mind this connection was from my hi def cable box to the hi def TV.

I returned the HDMI cable and went back to my Monster Cable R-B-G and fiber optic audio set up.

YRMV


Lex
12/14/2006 11:47:02 AM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
HDMI all the way.  Easy to deal with and gives you a true digital signal for the best picture.  Just stay away from cheap cables.  Most complaints I know of come from poor quality cables.


I've always wondered:  How could a cheap cable effect a digital signal?  As long as the ones don't become zeroes along the way wouldn't the exact same information get to the other end of the wire?
12/14/2006 11:49:44 AM EDT
[#9]
Poor conections, flaws in in the materials all effect the transfer of information.
12/14/2006 11:53:47 AM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
Yes. You don't get the full HD "experience" using component cables. When you have the perfect setup - a HDTV, and either an XBOX 360 (playing HD-DVD) or a PS3 (playing Blu-Ray) then you never want to watch a movie any other way ever again. It truly is mind-blowing - the clarity and everything...

But if you're just watching regular DVD's or whatever, then no, not a huge difference...



I don't know what you are talking about with "experience" but I can't tell a difference between component and HDMI and I'm talking about true HD content not just dvd's.
12/14/2006 11:55:33 AM EDT
[#11]
Soon enough, you will not be able to watch HD without using HDMI anyways.  Many TV manufacturers already disable support for 1080p over component.  Thanks to the MPAA.  If they ever turn on their Image Constraint Token then you will need a HDCP-compliant TV else you'll be watching everything in 480p.
12/14/2006 11:55:52 AM EDT
[#12]
Kind of look at it like cheap scopes.  They might do the job most of the time, but they are never as clear, sharp or as rugged as a good upper end scope.

It is the same way with digital info.  If part of the code sucks it just goes past it.  Like small scratches on a cd.  eventually the scratches get so numerous the info cannot be but together to form a coherent unit.
12/14/2006 11:57:50 AM EDT
[#13]
Can HDMI be used for TV even if the channel isn't in HD?
12/14/2006 11:58:41 AM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:
Can HDMI be used for TV even if the channel isn't in HD?


Yes
12/14/2006 12:00:11 PM EDT
[#15]

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Can HDMI be used for TV even if the channel isn't in HD?


Yes it can, it will replace exisitng connection types as long as your components have HDMI connection points.
12/14/2006 12:04:29 PM EDT
[#16]

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HDMI all the way.  Easy to deal with and gives you a true digital signal for the best picture.  Just stay away from cheap cables.  Most complaints I know of come from poor quality cables.


I've always wondered:  How could a cheap cable effect a digital signal?  As long as the ones don't become zeroes along the way wouldn't the exact same information get to the other end of the wire?



Great question. Monster would have you believe the more moeny the better the 1's and 0's. The only thing I can think of is interference using cheapo cabling? Sloppy connectors?
12/14/2006 12:07:26 PM EDT
[#17]

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Kind of look at it like cheap scopes.  They might do the job most of the time, but they are never as clear, sharp or as rugged as a good upper end scope.

It is the same way with digital info.  If part of the code sucks it just goes past it.  Like small scratches on a cd.  eventually the scratches get so numerous the info cannot be but together to form a coherent unit.

Digital is digital ... you've just fallen hook line and sinker for Monster Cable's "If it's not EXPENSIVE it SUCKS" method of logic.

a $15 HDMI cable from Monoprice is going to deliver exactly the same results as a $100 cable from Monster. The only difference is Monster spends a fortune on marketing to make you think you need to spend a fortune on their cables. That extra $85 you pay is for advertising.
12/14/2006 12:13:42 PM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:

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Kind of look at it like cheap scopes.  They might do the job most of the time, but they are never as clear, sharp or as rugged as a good upper end scope.

It is the same way with digital info.  If part of the code sucks it just goes past it.  Like small scratches on a cd.  eventually the scratches get so numerous the info cannot be but together to form a coherent unit.

Digital is digital ... you've just fallen hook line and sinker for Monster Cable's "If it's not EXPENSIVE it SUCKS" method of logic.

a $15 HDMI cable from Monoprice is going to deliver exactly the same results as a $100 cable from Monster. The only difference is Monster spends a fortune on marketing to make you think you need to spend a fortune on their cables. That extra $85 you pay is for advertising.


Big +1 on Monoprice cables, good stuff!
12/14/2006 12:30:47 PM EDT
[#19]
I like HDMI if only for the fact that its all one cable.
12/14/2006 6:41:33 PM EDT
[#20]
There is a world of differnce between inexpensive and cheap.  You can find good and inexpensive cables if you look around, but cheap will burn you every time.
12/14/2006 6:49:04 PM EDT
[#21]
I have a friend that works at a high end audio store. Markup on monster crap is 400%+.
There cost on a set of cables was $15, they sell for over $85.

Don't buy the hype.
12/14/2006 7:35:28 PM EDT
[#22]
Electrons do not give a damn about the brand name of the wire which they travel...
12/14/2006 7:39:02 PM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:

Quoted:

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Kind of look at it like cheap scopes.  They might do the job most of the time, but they are never as clear, sharp or as rugged as a good upper end scope.

It is the same way with digital info.  If part of the code sucks it just goes past it.  Like small scratches on a cd.  eventually the scratches get so numerous the info cannot be but together to form a coherent unit.

Digital is digital ... you've just fallen hook line and sinker for Monster Cable's "If it's not EXPENSIVE it SUCKS" method of logic.

a $15 HDMI cable from Monoprice is going to deliver exactly the same results as a $100 cable from Monster. The only difference is Monster spends a fortune on marketing to make you think you need to spend a fortune on their cables. That extra $85 you pay is for advertising.


Big +1 on Monoprice cables, good stuff!


+1. Monoprice cables are great! And furthermore I can't tell a difference between HDMI and component on a 720p & 1080i signal.
12/15/2006 1:43:13 PM EDT
[#24]

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Quoted:

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Kind of look at it like cheap scopes. They might do the job most of the time, but they are never as clear, sharp or as rugged as a good upper end scope.

It is the same way with digital info. If part of the code sucks it just goes past it. Like small scratches on a cd. eventually the scratches get so numerous the info cannot be but together to form a coherent unit.

Digital is digital ... you've just fallen hook line and sinker for Monster Cable's "If it's not EXPENSIVE it SUCKS" method of logic.

a $15 HDMI cable from Monoprice is going to deliver exactly the same results as a $100 cable from Monster. The only difference is Monster spends a fortune on marketing to make you think you need to spend a fortune on their cables. That extra $85 you pay is for advertising.


Big +1 on Monoprice cables, good stuff!


+1. Monoprice cables are great! And furthermore I can't tell a difference between HDMI and component on a 720p & 1080i signal.

Looks like the winner is; Stick with component video/audio cables as the difference is negligible at best unless you want to reduce cable clutter in which case Monoprice has an affordable HDMI cable that is as good as your likely to get regardless of price. Thanks for clearing that up for me!
12/15/2006 1:49:14 PM EDT
[#25]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Kind of look at it like cheap scopes.  They might do the job most of the time, but they are never as clear, sharp or as rugged as a good upper end scope.

It is the same way with digital info.  If part of the code sucks it just goes past it.  Like small scratches on a cd.  eventually the scratches get so numerous the info cannot be but together to form a coherent unit.

Digital is digital ... you've just fallen hook line and sinker for Monster Cable's "If it's not EXPENSIVE it SUCKS" method of logic.

a $15 HDMI cable from Monoprice is going to deliver exactly the same results as a $100 cable from Monster. The only difference is Monster spends a fortune on marketing to make you think you need to spend a fortune on their cables. That extra $85 you pay is for advertising.


+1. Monster is over hyped. You pay more for the hype and their name than you do for their quality. Go with monoprice! I've used both monster and monoprice HDMI cables and cannot tell the difference (except for more money in wallet thanks to monoprice)
12/15/2006 1:49:29 PM EDT
[#26]
I can't see the difference, and I have a very picky eye for this kind of thing.