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Today 10:38:21 AM EDT
[#1]
Oct 7th should not have been as bad had the population been armed. Not just a few armed security

The hams doesn't have the manpower unless they get the DSA involved.

The hez is also in the US
"We will always remember. We will always be proud. We will always be prepared so we may always be free." Ronald Reagan 1984

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Today 10:54:28 AM EDT
[#2]
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Originally Posted By Redman556:


@sandboxmedic

They have a large mosque in Rock Hill SC. The people that go to that mosque, as well as some from a mosque near south Charlotte, have a huge piece of land out in the country between Rock Hill and York, multiple hundreds of acres. They train there. They set off explosives, fire fully automatic weapons, and all sorts of semi automatics. I don't know if you remember about the muslims from the US back during our war in Afghanistan, but they all came from Rock Hill, and all trained on that land. It was about eight of them that they linked back to Rock Hill.

For whatever reason, the Feds, the State, none of them have been out there to do anything about it or to check the people out.

I have a friend that's ahttps://www.youtube.com/lways doing crazy crap. He'll push things as far as the law will allow, or a bit further if he can get away with it. He went out there to the property they train at and drove up the dirt road, planning act like he was lost. He got about 100 yards up the road and a crew of them came up to his truck and stepped in front of it and stopped him. They told him to turn around, and he drove up the road up over a hill and there were guys setting off an explosive in a field about 25 yards away. He turned the truck around and headed back and those guys stopped him again, but he lied and told them he was trying to find a place to turn around and found a spot. They didn't try anything on him.

He took that information to the police, they didn't do anything. He talked to SLED, and they wouldn't even go out there. I know he's not the only one, but it pisses him off because he was in Afghanistan and Iraq on several occasions fighting them over there.

Somebody in government knows the place is out there. They know that militants in Afghanistan came from there. But they won't do anything. That scares me. They know and they know it's connected to terrorists. I don't know if the government is afraid, or if they keep an eye on the place and can respond quickly to anything they do, or the worst , which is they know they'll do something at some point, but they aren't going to do anything until they attack people.

Did you know about the Rock Hill and York SC stuff ?

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People are afraid of being labeled. There are many posters here who keep their head in the sand when it comes to muslims. Same for certain agencies. They're not our friends, they're not going to be good Americans and the ones you think are cool are playing you and just waiting for the moment they're called upon or waiting for their violent friend to help them out.
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Today 10:57:57 AM EDT
[#3]
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Originally Posted By Stillnothere:
The only way people will want change is if and when something happens. As much as it pain's me to say it, there needs to be an attack to make people wake up. otherwise its always going to be someone else, somewhere else.
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There was an attack, a quite successful one at that.  Who is currently the Mayor of the city that was attacked?  Sure, the people woke up - and went right back to sleep.  There is a fundamental mindset in America that is based on people leaving each other alone.  That worked well when the majority of people had similar values and desires.  That is no longer the case in America.
It's true no matter who you are, the worst thing you can do for someone is give them something for nothing. - 3rdpig

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Today 11:01:47 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Sixtigers:
You have no idea how jealous I am.  My entire office has CCWs—does us no good.  Kudos to your CO.
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@Sixtigers

Is anyone in your office a LEO? If so, they could potentially become deputized as a federal task force officer (TFO).

Even the “Special Deputy” U.S. Marshals can carry on bases (as well as any other federal property). AFAIK they don’t need any permission from the base’s CO, nor a ship’s captain.
Today 11:44:24 AM EDT
[#5]
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Originally Posted By Gunner226:


Objectively, that attack has resulted in MORE support for "Palestine" across the globe - especially in the US - not less.

The Islamic takeover that will ultimately happen here in the US is 100% brought to us by "conservatives" who are terrified of anything that resembles a "religious test" - even if it means allowing an avowed enemy to gather, organize, arm themselves, and gain political power in our own country.

Islam will win. Because the only way to stop it would require doing things that conservatives will never, ever do. Because they're cowards who hide behind "principals."
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My principles would never allow me to hide behind a principal.
Today 11:46:42 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By KitBuilder:
@Sixtigers

Is anyone in your office a LEO? If so, they could potentially become deputized as a federal task force officer (TFO).

Even the “Special Deputy” U.S. Marshals can carry on bases (as well as any other federal property). AFAIK they don’t need any permission from the base’s CO, nor a ship’s captain.
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The one guy that was prior LE just left his Emergency Response position to take a PHYSEC Lead position—and even with the new job, he isn’t authorized to carry.  I work Insider Threat in an office full of INFOSEC folks.  Only base cops and our NCIS Special Agents carry here.

We received an email Friday that stated that due to Hegseth’s opinion on firearms, policy will soon change—just waiting on new regulations.  Having said that: it only applies to STORING weapons on base. It was very clear to state that CARRY on base is not, and will not be authorized.  But if you have a CCW, you will be allowed to have your firearm unloaded and locked in approved containers in your POV while at work.  At the Commander’s discretion.

Useless.  But—it satisfies Hegseth’s requirement, while fundamentally changing nothing.
On Wednesdays we wear steel.
Today 11:51:19 AM EDT
[#7]
@Osprey21

I like the new avatar.
On Wednesdays we wear steel.
Today 12:13:47 PM EDT
[#8]
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Originally Posted By Sixtigers:

The one guy that was prior LE just left his Emergency Response position to take a PHYSEC Lead position—and even with the new job, he isn’t authorized to carry.  I work Insider Threat in an office full of INFOSEC folks.  Only base cops and our NCIS Special Agents carry here.

We received an email Friday that stated that due to Hegseth’s opinion on firearms, policy will soon change—just waiting on new regulations.  Having said that: it only applies to STORING weapons on base. It was very clear to state that CARRY on base is not, and will not be authorized.  But if you have a CCW, you will be allowed to have your firearm unloaded and locked in approved containers in your POV while at work.  At the Commander’s discretion.

Useless.  But—it satisfies Hegseth’s requirement, while fundamentally changing nothing.
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Originally Posted By KitBuilder:
@Sixtigers

Is anyone in your office a LEO? If so, they could potentially become deputized as a federal task force officer (TFO).

Even the “Special Deputy” U.S. Marshals can carry on bases (as well as any other federal property). AFAIK they don’t need any permission from the base’s CO, nor a ship’s captain.

The one guy that was prior LE just left his Emergency Response position to take a PHYSEC Lead position—and even with the new job, he isn’t authorized to carry.  I work Insider Threat in an office full of INFOSEC folks.  Only base cops and our NCIS Special Agents carry here.

We received an email Friday that stated that due to Hegseth’s opinion on firearms, policy will soon change—just waiting on new regulations.  Having said that: it only applies to STORING weapons on base. It was very clear to state that CARRY on base is not, and will not be authorized.  But if you have a CCW, you will be allowed to have your firearm unloaded and locked in approved containers in your POV while at work.  At the Commander’s discretion.

Useless.  But—it satisfies Hegseth’s requirement, while fundamentally changing nothing.



Federal LE can acrry on military bases on duty for official business. Honestly, most gate security will let you in with LE credentials.

However, base commanders can restrict this in different ways. A couple years ago, the Ft Belvoir, VA garrison commander only authorized access to installation with CAC. This greatly upset some DoD LEOs who liked ot use their B&Cs for access. For transparency, I do not know if he restricted access to only DoD CAC or allowed non-DoD ID holders (i.e., PIV card).

Been hearing about the new locked/transport rules but nothing official has implemented it.
Today 12:24:56 PM EDT
[#9]
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Originally Posted By jough43:
Silly question.  Do Jewish synagogues have caches?  I know a Jew or 2 that certainly do at their home, but it isn't for offense.
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Technically, a synagogue is any place with a notable exception of a whorehouse where a religious quorum of Jewish men recognized as adults by the religious law assemble for prayer.
Today 12:37:35 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SIG_gunner:



Federal LE can acrry on military bases on duty for official business. Honestly, most gate security will let you in with LE credentials.

However, base commanders can restrict this in different ways. A couple years ago, the Ft Belvoir, VA garrison commander only authorized access to installation with CAC. This greatly upset some DoD LEOs who liked ot use their B&Cs for access. For transparency, I do not know if he restricted access to only DoD CAC or allowed non-DoD ID holders (i.e., PIV card).

Been hearing about the new locked/transport rules but nothing official has implemented it.
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Originally Posted By SIG_gunner:
Originally Posted By Sixtigers:
Originally Posted By KitBuilder:
@Sixtigers

Is anyone in your office a LEO? If so, they could potentially become deputized as a federal task force officer (TFO).

Even the “Special Deputy” U.S. Marshals can carry on bases (as well as any other federal property). AFAIK they don’t need any permission from the base’s CO, nor a ship’s captain.

The one guy that was prior LE just left his Emergency Response position to take a PHYSEC Lead position—and even with the new job, he isn’t authorized to carry.  I work Insider Threat in an office full of INFOSEC folks.  Only base cops and our NCIS Special Agents carry here.

We received an email Friday that stated that due to Hegseth’s opinion on firearms, policy will soon change—just waiting on new regulations.  Having said that: it only applies to STORING weapons on base. It was very clear to state that CARRY on base is not, and will not be authorized.  But if you have a CCW, you will be allowed to have your firearm unloaded and locked in approved containers in your POV while at work.  At the Commander’s discretion.

Useless.  But—it satisfies Hegseth’s requirement, while fundamentally changing nothing.



Federal LE can acrry on military bases on duty for official business. Honestly, most gate security will let you in with LE credentials.

However, base commanders can restrict this in different ways. A couple years ago, the Ft Belvoir, VA garrison commander only authorized access to installation with CAC. This greatly upset some DoD LEOs who liked ot use their B&Cs for access. For transparency, I do not know if he restricted access to only DoD CAC or allowed non-DoD ID holders (i.e., PIV card).

Been hearing about the new locked/transport rules but nothing official has implemented it.


As written, it looks like only AD .mil and DoW employees.  No retirees or visitors.  No contractors.
On Wednesdays we wear steel.
Today 2:01:35 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BB:

I'd bet there are several three-letter agencies already working it.
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That particular one has been around since the '80s, it's mostly black muslim converts.  The number who live on site has dwindled, maybe because it's just a clump of single wides and a prayer center (last I heard), but they have more members offsite.  They've been "investigated" by the fbi, local sheriff, etc as well as several news pieces on them but they haven't been in the news lately that I'm aware of, mostly just at the time of the incidents he mentioned.  Despite having members tied to terror and a leader who was on the US terror list (he got removed somehow but is still on Pakistan's list).  The other muslim groups in the state say they aren't affiliated and the usual disclaimers so who knows- you notice everything is allegedly, supposedly, was, might, etc.   Whatever agencies are tracking these groups don't give out any actual data on them and of course they cry about discrimination and hide behind the 1st Amendment.  They, like all of the other affiliated groups (there are supposedly twenty two of them scattered across the US who are affiliated with that particular iman/cleric/whatever), have ties to extremist, and it's obvious what they're doing, including intentionally making people nervous, but until they actually do something nothing will happen.  

These groups all use our system against us, knowing full well that it creates a conundrum for people who want to follow the Constitution and Bill of Rights, who want to respect property rights and who generally dislike more government.  As already mentioned, they're not the only group in the country that has "questionable" ties, but somehow "white racist"/white men who are the face of are the main problem.  That of course includes conservative Asians, Hispanics and black men like Thomas, Sowell, Elders, the hold Clancy juror, etc who are "the black face of white supremacy" according to the media and retarded agenda driven politicians.
Today 2:18:30 PM EDT
[#12]
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Originally Posted By Redman556:


@sandboxmedic

They have a large mosque in Rock Hill SC. The people that go to that mosque, as well as some from a mosque near south Charlotte, have a huge piece of land out in the country between Rock Hill and York, multiple hundreds of acres. They train there. They set off explosives, fire fully automatic weapons, and all sorts of semi automatics. I don't know if you remember about the muslims from the US back during our war in Afghanistan, but they all came from Rock Hill, and all trained on that land. It was about eight of them that they linked back to Rock Hill.

For whatever reason, the Feds, the State, none of them have been out there to do anything about it or to check the people out.

I have a friend that's ahttps://www.youtube.com/lways doing crazy crap. He'll push things as far as the law will allow, or a bit further if he can get away with it. He went out there to the property they train at and drove up the dirt road, planning act like he was lost. He got about 100 yards up the road and a crew of them came up to his truck and stepped in front of it and stopped him. They told him to turn around, and he drove up the road up over a hill and there were guys setting off an explosive in a field about 25 yards away. He turned the truck around and headed back and those guys stopped him again, but he lied and told them he was trying to find a place to turn around and found a spot. They didn't try anything on him.

He took that information to the police, they didn't do anything. He talked to SLED, and they wouldn't even go out there. I know he's not the only one, but it pisses him off because he was in Afghanistan and Iraq on several occasions fighting them over there.

Somebody in government knows the place is out there. They know that militants in Afghanistan came from there. But they won't do anything. That scares me. They know and they know it's connected to terrorists. I don't know if the government is afraid, or if they keep an eye on the place and can respond quickly to anything they do, or the worst , which is they know they'll do something at some point, but they aren't going to do anything until they attack people.

Did you know about the Rock Hill and York SC stuff ?

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Originally Posted By sandboxmedic:
There have been various security people talking about them storing weapons in mosques for years now, and the governments are scared of upsetting them.  Don't have to raid the mosques if the citizens treated the mosques like the invaders treat Europe's historic churches.  


@sandboxmedic

They have a large mosque in Rock Hill SC. The people that go to that mosque, as well as some from a mosque near south Charlotte, have a huge piece of land out in the country between Rock Hill and York, multiple hundreds of acres. They train there. They set off explosives, fire fully automatic weapons, and all sorts of semi automatics. I don't know if you remember about the muslims from the US back during our war in Afghanistan, but they all came from Rock Hill, and all trained on that land. It was about eight of them that they linked back to Rock Hill.

For whatever reason, the Feds, the State, none of them have been out there to do anything about it or to check the people out.

I have a friend that's ahttps://www.youtube.com/lways doing crazy crap. He'll push things as far as the law will allow, or a bit further if he can get away with it. He went out there to the property they train at and drove up the dirt road, planning act like he was lost. He got about 100 yards up the road and a crew of them came up to his truck and stepped in front of it and stopped him. They told him to turn around, and he drove up the road up over a hill and there were guys setting off an explosive in a field about 25 yards away. He turned the truck around and headed back and those guys stopped him again, but he lied and told them he was trying to find a place to turn around and found a spot. They didn't try anything on him.

He took that information to the police, they didn't do anything. He talked to SLED, and they wouldn't even go out there. I know he's not the only one, but it pisses him off because he was in Afghanistan and Iraq on several occasions fighting them over there.

Somebody in government knows the place is out there. They know that militants in Afghanistan came from there. But they won't do anything. That scares me. They know and they know it's connected to terrorists. I don't know if the government is afraid, or if they keep an eye on the place and can respond quickly to anything they do, or the worst , which is they know they'll do something at some point, but they aren't going to do anything until they attack people.

Did you know about the Rock Hill and York SC stuff ?



@Redman556 Yep. It's less than a 30 minute drive away from me Although, It's pretty rural where I am. I assume members of that mosque are from the metro area and any attack would be in that same area... Not that I want them to attack anywhere.

What they have going on would be difficult for the local gov to put a stop on. What rules are they breaking? What enforcement action does the local gov take?

I wouldn't want to be the deputy to drive out there and tell them they can't shoot guns and my reason be because they're Muslims. I wouldn't want LE coming to my land to tell me I can't shoot because I'm Christian. We recognize the difference, but the media wouldn't. I think the best thing we can do is make sure we're trained up even better than they are; hope for the best and prepare for the worst.

I also hope the SBI and/or feds either have someone on the inside or are watching that compoud like a hawk, ready spring into action if they notice something starting. I don't put a lot of faith or trust in the government, but I'm sure they've stopped things in the past that we'll never know about.

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